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Title: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 07, 2007, 07:01:28 PM
Another monster from Tynemouth. "Bismarck" at 1:96 (over 8' long). If you want more pictures then just ask.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: J.beazley on April 07, 2007, 08:09:05 PM
PLEASE  ;D Bryan get some more pictures up for me  ;D

one day i shall build a bismarck in a large scale hopeing for 1/72nd scale but we shall see.

Jay
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 07, 2007, 10:04:10 PM
I shall have to get the permission of the builder first....but I am sure it will happen. Watch this space. BY
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: gary r uk on April 07, 2007, 10:20:53 PM
Hi youg bryan
wow yes please as many as you can
gary rowe
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bunkerbarge on April 07, 2007, 11:58:19 PM
I have always considered the Bismarck to be one of the most visualy appealling and technologically interesting vessels of all time.

Please post as many pictures as you can.  Is this the model I have seen at shows recently, the last being at Doncaster, making quite substantial amounts of noise from a sound unit and doing something in the region of about 60 scale knots!! ;)
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 08, 2007, 11:47:12 AM
There seem to be mixed views on the technology built into Bismarck. I have read that constructionally she was essentially a scaled up WW1 Baden design. Along with most German capital ships, her wide beam and extensive compartmentation enabled her to absorb a great deal of punishment but apparently a lot of the communications and electrical gear was carried above the main armour deck and was vulnerable to shellfire. She was also old fashioned in carrying a mixed secondary armament of 5.9 guns for surface action and 4.1 for anti aircraft use. Contemporary British and US designs had a more modern dual purpose secondary armament. She was certainly an impressive looking vessl though. Another interesting thing about German WW2 ships was that there seemed to be a propensity for the stern to break off, a weak design point it would appear.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 08, 2007, 08:18:43 PM
I have always considered the Bismarck to be one of the most visualy appealling and technologically interesting vessels of all time.

Please post as many pictures as you can.  Is this the model I have seen at shows recently, the last being at Doncaster, making quite substantial amounts of noise from a sound unit and doing something in the region of about 60 scale knots!! ;)
I very much doubt it as it had its maiden voyage only last wednesday. More on this model later. BY
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Shipmate60 on April 09, 2007, 04:40:09 PM
The stern was a notoriously bad weak point.
John Ballard found the stern section nearly a mile from the main wreck.
The Hipper class had the same stern build an had almost an RSJ welded each side inside the steering compartment foreward.
Bit like the Type 21 Frigates but that was welded externally.

Bob
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 09, 2007, 04:41:18 PM
The model was built by M.Doogan of TMBC. It is really a 2 person job to carry it. Should appear at the Harrogate show in May.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 09, 2007, 05:19:59 PM
These are the last 3 in this series. I could post some closer in sections of the photos already shown. This would depend on the reaction to the already posted ones, but I am reluctant to do so without any requests as I am not sure that I wish to be accused of hi-jacking the column again.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: gary r uk on April 09, 2007, 05:26:58 PM
Hi Bryan
You post away until your harts content if its grey i want to see it and as all your pictures are fantastic anyway you hi jack away my friend.
cheers
gary r
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Holmsey on April 09, 2007, 05:29:51 PM
Bryan
No one can accuse you of hyjacking a thread when you started it!!!
Those photos are superb. What we want to see on the forum is photos of models and descriptions and experiances. What we don't want is the silly sniping that sometimes occurs. There is enough space for everyone and for me a photo of a model ship beats some of the rubbish posted elsewere.

Keep them coming!!!!

Holmsey
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: J.beazley on April 09, 2007, 05:36:22 PM
Very rightly said aswell Holmsey, Brian you keep them pictures coming of Bismarck as its giving me the motivation to build one myself.

Jay
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: hiapita on April 09, 2007, 09:58:35 PM
What a lovely model, when I finish my Ark Royal it would be nice to see the two models together (if I can get dad to drive me!) and I could try to disable her rudders!!! LOL.

  Hannah.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 10, 2007, 06:19:56 PM
Hello Hannah. It would be wonderful if you could persuade your dad to drive you and "the ARK" to Tynemouth. Watching your progress is fascinating...and even educational!
The conflict could be interesting as not only do we have "Bismarck" but in the next few weeks we will also have "Tirpitz" at the same scale. (all 1:96 = nearly 100" long). However, we already have "Nelson" but nearly finished is "Rodney" at the same scale. Quite a battle looming up, eh?. Somewhat differently, we also have a 1:96 model of the "Ark"....but it is of the "new" one. (A pic of this will be on Mayhem soon). When and if you come to Tynemouth you have permission NOT to wear your dust mask! (maybe you should, as that is how we are all going to recognize you if you take Dicky-Ds VERY sensible advice.
Keep on going with the sanding down and look forward to doing "the interesting bits" later. One little bit of advice....do not get "ahead of yourself" while building. Concentrate on the bit you are doing and when that is done, move on. Regards. B.Young.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 13, 2007, 02:28:44 PM
After failing miserably to get Steve Pickerings torpedo boat posted I thought I would attempt some closer in shots of Bismarck. These are just sections of larger ones already posted...but the definition is better.
The turrets all turn and the barrels elevate....they actually fire as well. Fortunately only blanks, but I am quite sure (positive, in fact) that "The Doogan" would love to fire live shells. All of the following posts (6, I hope) were taken on "initial" launch day....Hitlers birthday ('nuff said) and for some reason I did'nt take any shots of the internal workings. Just as impressive as the exterior I can assure you. So that will be my next task. Watch this space!
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 13, 2007, 02:33:24 PM
Do you really have to put writing in or can I go direct to the pictures? Sorry for all the Bryan Young entries.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 13, 2007, 02:41:45 PM
no words left
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 13, 2007, 02:52:35 PM
last 3 coming up until I do the interior.
Please, I can hear the sighs of relief already.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 13, 2007, 02:53:53 PM
a word to fill the space.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 13, 2007, 02:54:58 PM
Last one...promise.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 13, 2007, 02:58:25 PM
Wouldn't it have been easier to put them all on the one thread Bryan?
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 13, 2007, 03:29:24 PM
You are probably right. I did try but as each one is large "those who control us" kept on chucking them back at me, and I felt that the model deserved the best definition I could post on the site. I really hope I have'nt offended anyone, again. BY
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 13, 2007, 04:38:06 PM
No question of offending Bryan. They are great pictures of a superb model and I'm sure everyone enjoys looking at them. It's just that the only point in posting "big" pictures greater than the average PC screen resolution is to allow people to download them and apply magnification. The majority of us will be happy just to view them on screen. I find that one way to satisfy everyone and keep the load on the server down is to post the smaller ones on the Net and offer to email bigger versions to anyone who is particularly interested. Just a suggestion!  ;)
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 13, 2007, 04:43:57 PM
Point taken Colin, now I need to go off on another learning curve! Rats!
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: riggers24 on April 13, 2007, 05:00:57 PM
Using the microsoft powertool " picture resizer" which is free, is the easiest way to resize the photos and you can add them to the same thread.

Is the model going to Harrogate this year, as last year I had some disgruntled members from a different club who had made the trip specially as the builder had told them it would be there
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Martin [Admin] on April 13, 2007, 06:46:51 PM
All photos merged....
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 13, 2007, 07:59:02 PM
Using the microsoft powertool " picture resizer" which is free, is the easiest way to resize the photos and you can add them to the same thread.

Is the model going to Harrogate this year, as last year I had some disgruntled members from a different club who had made the trip specially as the builder had told them it would be there
I really thought that I had answered that one! But it did'nt come up. I am beginning to think I need a six-year-old to sit at my elbow.....but of course that would'nt be allowed now without a team of "minders" with him/her.
The Doogans Bismarck will be at Harrogate this year even if Brian-c has to re-load his well used shotgun. The Doogan (as I am myself) is of the shy and retiring persuasion, and he balks at putting Bismarck into the "competition" class. I have mixed feelings on this as his Bismarck will undoubtedly beat my entry of "Baroda". Deservedly so. So, perhaps(?) I may come home again with yet another "silver". I really should try harder!
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 13, 2007, 08:03:19 PM
Cheer up Bryan. With any luck the judges will overlook your model entirely and so not place stress on your shy and retiring disposition.  ;)
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 13, 2007, 08:31:30 PM
Cheer up Bryan. With any luck the judges will overlook your model entirely and so not place stress on your shy and retiring disposition.  ;)
Using the well known naval phrase "Foxtrot Oscar" I look foward to crossing swords again! Cheers. BY
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Martin [Admin] on April 13, 2007, 08:40:38 PM
Clever Bryan, sneeked one past the word censor....  :P
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 13, 2007, 08:56:13 PM
No Martin, I think it stands for "Faultless Objectivity"  ;D
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: riggers24 on April 13, 2007, 09:35:49 PM
I really thought that I had answered that one! But it did'nt come up. I am beginning to think I need a six-year-old to sit at my elbow.....but of course that would'nt be allowed now without a team of "minders" with him/her.

If bluebird and Brian C can work it why can't you
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: gary r uk on April 14, 2007, 11:06:39 AM
Hi Bryan
Fantastic mate you post away i look forward to all your picture posts please keep them coming
cheers
gary r
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 14, 2007, 11:10:37 PM
I really thought that I had answered that one! But it did'nt come up. I am beginning to think I need a six-year-old to sit at my elbow.....but of course that would'nt be allowed now without a team of "minders" with him/her.

If bluebird and Brian C can work it why can't you
That puzzles me as well. Maybe I should just learn to point and shoot and to hell with the consequences!
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: hiapita on April 27, 2007, 08:22:11 AM
Hi bryan, I  Love the extra pictures you posted that is one fantastic model. My dad said he will drive me up to Tynemouth when my Ark Royal is finished although he said it will be a 5 hour drive as we live over 300 miles away in Newport South Wales!!!!!!
Keep the pics coming we both love looking at them!!

 Hannah.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Brian_C on April 28, 2007, 10:18:03 AM
bismark & nelson will be sailing on tynemouth water tomorrow, i will try and get some pi cs posted on sunday night ;) ;) ;) :D  let the battle commence ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bunkerbarge on April 28, 2007, 10:49:18 AM
Bryan, superb pictures of one of my all time favorite vessels.  A great shame I won't be at Harrogate this year to see it for myself.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 30, 2007, 07:22:13 PM
There seem to be mixed views on the technology built into Bismarck. I have read that constructionally she was essentially a scaled up WW1 Baden design. Along with most German capital ships, her wide beam and extensive compartmentation enabled her to absorb a great deal of punishment but apparently a lot of the communications and electrical gear was carried above the main armour deck and was vulnerable to shellfire. She was also old fashioned in carrying a mixed secondary armament of 5.9 guns for surface action and 4.1 for anti aircraft use. Contemporary British and US designs had a more modern dual purpose secondary armament. She was certainly an impressive looking vessl though. Another interesting thing about German WW2 ships was that there seemed to be a propensity for the stern to break off, a weak design point it would appear.
Hi, Colin. I meant to reply to you earlier...but I forgot. One thing I have always noted about the German (built) naval vessels is how "wet" they are. The decks are constantly awash because of (possibly) the hull design and their love of low freeboards. Makes for interesting times during a roughish replenishment!
Although "Nelson" and "Rodney" must be the ugliest Battleships ever inflicted upon a Navy, at least they looked like Battleships. Watching "Bismarck" yesterday at a distance it was very easy to imagine her as a large destroyer. Before the days of radar etc. and "Mk.1 eyeball" ruled the roost this aspect could materially affect any future outcome. I believe that Capt. Langsdorf had a similar thought during the River Plate business.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 30, 2007, 08:44:45 PM
Hi Bryan,

The Germans designed many of their larger ships to look similar intentionally. The Hipper class cruisers, Scharnhorst and Gneisenau and Bismark and Tirpitz all had broadly similar profiles which would have made them difficult to distinguish at sea. It certainly initially fooled the British during the Hood engagement. The projected ships continued this trend. Not only the German ships were wet though. The King George V class were also notorious for this due to an insistence by the Admiralty that the forward turrets be able to fire dead ahead at zero elevation. The Vanguard was built with a good sheer and flared bow and was a much better seaboat being able to maintain speed in bad conditions better than a US Iowa class in post war exercises.

Nelson and  Rodney were actually very sophisticated designs for their time and quite successful once they got the bugs out of the main armament. However the moderate speed and tricky handling at low speed counted against them. One of them went aground off the entrance to Portsmouth harbour due to poor steering response. They certainly looked like battleships though!
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Brian_C on April 30, 2007, 09:10:37 PM
One of them went aground off the entrance to Portsmouth harbour due to poor steering response. They certainly looked like battleships though,            hi colin ive got that picture of nelson aground in portsmouth and was out of action for months after grounding in 1934    tried to post it but wont let me  ???
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 30, 2007, 09:19:28 PM
I think it was on the Hamilton Bank which is just west of Portsmouth entrance. It's very shallow, even yachts can get caught out. I hadn't realised that Nelson was seriously damaged though - did it strain the hull?
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Brian_C on April 30, 2007, 09:25:12 PM


The book states that she  was drydocked and hull plates had to be replaced


I think it was on the Hamilton Bank which is just west of Portsmouth entrance. It's very shallow, even yachts can get caught out. I hadn't realised that Nelson was seriously damaged though - did it strain the hull?   
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on April 30, 2007, 10:59:57 PM
One of them went aground off the entrance to Portsmouth harbour due to poor steering response. They certainly looked like battleships though,            hi colin ive got that picture of nelson aground in portsmouth and was out of action for months after grounding in 1934    tried to post it but wont let me  ???
Ha.Ha.Ha. After your comments to me on Sunday I'm delighted to see you on the wrong end!!!!
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bunkerbarge on May 01, 2007, 04:32:25 PM
Actually the very low freeboard at the aft end of the Hood was notorious for spending a lot of it's time below water so this is quite a common effect partly driven by the desire to maintain as low a profile as can be achieved with such a vessel.

It is well recorded that in the action between the Bismarck and the Hood the Bismarck and the Prinz Eugen had changed places and the British opened fire on the Prinz Eugen first thinking it was the Bismarck.  Although German accounts are dismissive of this looking at the two together and not knowing which is the closer it would be a very easy mistake to make particularly with the Bismark sporting her Dark Grey bow and stern camoflage, designed to make her look shorter.

I don't think you will find many people who think the Rodney and the Nelson were good looking ships but there are quite a few, myself included, that think the Bismarck had a beautiful line to her.  As to which was the most effective I still maintain that was down to the standard of training of the crew as much as technical considerations.  Having read a couple of books only recently that described the training methods of the Royal Navy at this time and the Kreigsmarine I have to say the German training was a long way ahead of ours.

The Royal Navy approach of beating it into the men may have been effective for known situations but during the heat of a battle the German training of developing initiative and self sufficiency has to be a better way of dealing with the unknown.   
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Tim S on May 04, 2007, 12:27:51 AM
Hello, Im new to this forum.I just had to say thanks for the beautiful pics of the Bismarck.I have a r/c 1/144th scale Bismarck that I was going to talk about,but after seeing these pictures,I think not. :)
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: tigertiger on May 04, 2007, 02:11:39 AM
Hello, Im new to this forum.I just had to say thanks for the beautiful pics of the Bismarck.I have a r/c 1/144th scale Bismarck that I was going to talk about,but after seeing these pictures,I think not. :)

Don't worry about posting. People will be interested.

There are many levels of modellers on here.
Some of the folks up at Tynemouth are very experienced scale modellers.
There are a lot of who are not at that level yet, nor will we ever be, and some of us don't want to be.

I belong to the later group, I am less worried about detail and enjoy making things that float and people saying 'beautiful boat' when they see her sailing. Each model I build will be a bit more of a challenge than my last. Intermediate models are more of an inspiration to me because I think to myself, I could do that, and then I have a go, or at least copy some of the detail.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Marks Model Bits on May 04, 2007, 07:56:58 AM
hi Tim tt is right my daughter Hannah  had the same thought about her first model and she didn't want to put any pictures up i eventually persuaded her that no one would be horrible and say anything unkind. she posted her pics and blog on the forum and now she is always on here and she is rightly very proud of her achievements although she was a bit embarrassed with her springer tug she built ( bottom left pic on the home page) so post some pics up of your model we would love to see them.

 mark
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: tigertiger on May 04, 2007, 09:36:08 AM
Hi (no)Mustang

I like Hannah's Springer.

It makes me smile every time I see it.
Some people take this hobby too seriously. Things like Hannah's Springer are the antidote.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bunkerbarge on May 04, 2007, 05:46:51 PM
Quote

Some of the folks up at Tynemouth are very experienced scale modellers.

Lets face it there's not much else to do up there!! :D ;)
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Brian_C on May 04, 2007, 08:07:11 PM





Lets face it there's not much else to do up there!! :D ;)            its just like hull,, shipyards GONE fishing industry GONE, at least we've still got the roman wall,, the government ain't got enough shovels to dig that up and flog it,    better check go ogle earth and see if its still there  ;D ;D ;D ;D :P
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Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Tim S on May 05, 2007, 04:01:20 AM
Thanks for the greeting. My computer skills are very bad (and my computer is ancient) so I cant post pics,but I can direct you to some pictures of my Bismarck.Remember,this was my first experience with large R/C warships,so be understanding.Since these pictures where taken,I've made several improvements to the details.My Bismarck has two smoke units,and 5 working searchlights.Main propulsion is 1 3/4" props connected to 540sized motors via 2:1 gearboxes.Main power is 2- 10amp/hr 6volt gel cell batteries and one 6volt gel cell for the smoke units. Also 3volt dry cells for the lights.

I failed to properly introduce myself in the first post, so here it goes.My name is Tim Slocum and Im 40 years old..I live in a small town in the central part of the state of Missouri in the USA. I enjoy rc ship modelling(many different types)history, model RRing,singing classic rock and playing guitar.Im divorced and have a 16 year old daughter thats responsible for most of the grey hair on my head.(not much left) I also have afriend that served for several years in England and has told me alot about it.Id like to visit there someday.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Tim S on May 05, 2007, 04:05:28 AM
Wow, its been a long day and Im tired thats why I totally forgot to give you directions to my Bismarck pictures!!!!Go to the St Louis Admirals website.Then click on the "Fleet" button.Scroll down to my Bismarck and click on pic to supersize them. Remember be gently with the comments.I'm aware of most of the problems and have either corrected them or plan to live with them.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: tigertiger on May 05, 2007, 04:14:23 AM
Wow, its been a long day and Im tired thats why I totally forgot to give you directions to my Bismarck pictures!!!!Go to the St Louis Admirals website.Then click on the "Fleet" button.Scroll down to my Bismarck and click on pic to supersize them. Remember be gently with the comments.I'm aware of most of the problems and have either corrected them or plan to live with them.

Hi Tim

Good to hear from you.
Your Bismarck is impressive, well done. 8)

I have taken the liberty of posting the link to this site. It makes life easier for busy folks. :)
http://www.stlouisadmirals.com/FleetBoat.asp?id=43

I liked the Dory. ;D
Can you ask Karl Buck if he is willing to pass on details of the oar control mechanism please. :D


Somebody in this site may also be intereste in the Puffers. :D


Best regards
TT

Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Marks Model Bits on May 06, 2007, 09:57:57 AM
What problems??? you have a really nice looking model there (to quote Shipmate60 regarding my daughters HMS Scorpion "any model is good enough if the builder is proud of it"!!!!!) If you put your best effort into a model and you get snide or nasty comments treat them with the contempt they deserve!!! A few weeks ago me and Hannah were over our local boating lake sailing her HMS Scorpion when I overheard 2 40 something men talking about Hannah's model, these so called "experts" commented on the detailing and the fact that the boat has over scale speed. I struck up a conversation with these men and asked them if they were modellers too, niether of them were!!! So I then asked them if they could build a model like that when they were 10 years old!!! they then left feeling a bit sheepish. Like my mum always said "if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all".

 Keep up the good work, Mark.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: John W E on May 06, 2007, 03:55:26 PM
hi there Tim

Welcome to the Forum my friend - as nomustangmark has already stated, be proud of what you build - because I will let you into a little secret the models that you have seen from Tynemouth are a selected few - I know this, because I have sailed there on and off from about 1969 - I used to go over there with the 'straight runners' from South Shields Model Boat club when I was a young lad.

The majority of the lads from Tynemouth are like all of us, enjoy their hobby and try their best for building skills and always ready with their help and advice.  The kit builders outweigh the scratch builders they are by no means an elite club, nine times out of ten they will welcome you with open arms. 

As it happens, there was one particular person from Tynemouth (Brian Chambers' dad) and I have fond memories of him - even though I only met him once but sadly he is no longer with us - I am very surprised Mr Young has not shown some of Brian's late dad's models.   He was a down to earth modeller, a lot like Vic Smeed - no problem too big or too small.  He was very gifted in the engineering field.  He always had time for everyone.

There is also another person from this club, Sandy they call him, (that is his nickname) - you have seen one or two of his models already, but, you haven't seen his tramp steamer built from freebie model boat plans yet. The model is a lot like Hannah's build.

So Tynemouth Model Boat club isn't elite - its just a good standard club, with good standard models and modellers like us all.

Aye
John E
Bluebird



Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Shipmate60 on May 06, 2007, 05:34:36 PM
Bryan,
Your pics of Bismarck have made me more determined than ever to get my 1/72 Prinz Eugen finished to that standard, it just might take a while.

nomustangmark
You tell Hannah for me that her models are superb, I too smile when I see her Springer Tug and am following her Ark build with great interest.
As to her Scorpion, a superb model, never mind a first one.
For her information I also overpower my models.
There are always those that will "snipe" at anything, as I got older I just got more used to telling those to Foxtrot Oscar.

Bob
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on May 06, 2007, 07:36:18 PM

John, do not be sad about Brians dads models. The reason that they were not posted is because I hav'nt got any. Apart from his HMS "Sheffield" made of tin plate in the 1940s. A lovely model that was vandalised during the 2001 Harrogate show when "someone" ripped off all of the topmast and radar gear. Brian takes good care of them all and I am sure that in the fullness of time they will be seen again. Not to sure about which of Sandys ships you are referring to, but if it is the "Malindi Palm" it will be at Harrogate next weekend. The models you have seen on this forum are, as you said, a selected few. I have more to put on but am biding time....including a super shot of your HMS "Ajax" (which I have'nt done in case it inflames your spleen). Hope you are feeling better. Cheers, BY.


Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on May 06, 2007, 10:54:58 PM

Oh, dear. You still seem angry about something. Could be the spleen. My pic of Ajax will come up soon(ish). Loosen up John. Cheers. BY.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: tigertiger on May 07, 2007, 03:24:53 AM
Chill out for goodness sake guys.

If you aren't trolling, you are reacting.

Go get a beer or summat.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Tim S on May 07, 2007, 04:10:11 AM
Thanks for the nice welcome folks.I'll have the improved Bismarck at the St Louis Admirals Regatta in Sept,so maybe some updated pictures will be available for viewing.Im now in the process of building a 6ft. dock for him.Im trying out a new material for the docks deck.Its a plastic/wood product used for home decking.Its supposed to not warp or rot.It comes in several colors,Im using grey as I think it looks like concrete.

Tigertiger, thanks so much for posting the link to my Bismarck pictures.I will try to get the info about the mechanism you wanted.Cheers.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Brian_C on May 08, 2007, 07:50:58 PM


Hi John, thanks for those kind words about my dad, he was always bringing modellers to the house and helping and showing which way to do things and they would spend hours in dads workshop and often go home with bits n peices dad gave them,and form a lasting friendship,he also loved the challenge of an awkward model,   thanks again my mate, regards brian_c


Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Pointy on May 11, 2007, 06:47:40 PM
 :o....WOW..... :o :o!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Bryan Young on May 12, 2007, 06:42:20 PM
Can you tell me Brayn is the Bismark's hull a commercially built one or a home-made hull and if its home-made what plans did you use then.
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The hull is totally scratch built by the builder (Malcom Doogan of TMBC). It is a fibre-glass hull. I believe he got the drawings from somewhere in Germany. I'll ask him tomorrow. BY
Title: Re: Bismarck (internals)
Post by: Bryan Young on June 03, 2007, 05:27:00 PM
These are my last comments on "Bismarck" (although we still have "Tirpitz" to come).
Any further photos will come from the builder when he gets to grips with the process!
These last 5 are the long promised pics of the internals of "Bismarck". I hope they will be of interest to you.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: gary r uk on June 03, 2007, 07:51:50 PM
WOW
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: Marks Model Bits on June 03, 2007, 08:27:23 PM
I couldn't put it any better Gary what a fantastic model!!!
 Mark.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: PSSHIPS on June 03, 2007, 08:40:36 PM
NICE that! I like very much!
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: modelman66 on March 03, 2008, 10:12:03 PM
hi brilliant model just a little show of mine scratch built 1/200ish scale more pics available if anyone interested.
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: modelman66 on March 03, 2008, 10:47:44 PM
 :) forgot pictures oops
Title: Re: Bismarck
Post by: modelman66 on March 04, 2008, 08:12:38 PM
 O0 brilliant maybe one day i will build my own monster would be very happy if it looks that good.