Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: unbuiltnautilus on April 14, 2012, 02:44:18 pm
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I am soon to scrap my old faithful Ford Mondeo estate, rust, poetic justice really! Am looking for internal dimensions of a replacement, am finding cubic capacity in Litres. As I am not planning on using this vehicle as a milk float this is of no use to me. Can it fit a 67" Type VII U-Boat straight in? These are the questions rarely addressed on specialist sites!
So, we all build boats and loads of us use our cars to transport the models to the pond. Maybe it is time to start recording these vital dimensions for fellow modellers out there.
I will start;
Ford Mondeo Estate ( Old shape, pre 2000) Seats folded ( the only important dimension!) 73" length, 44" across the wheel arches ( narrowest point ).
Ford Focus Estate 04 plate, seats folded, 68" length 44" across wheel arches.
Who has a Vauxhall Zafira ( older or newer model ) and a tape measure?
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Get yourself a HONDA CRV
I can get two tugs, Tito Neri and Parat along with the trolley a transmitter case spare SLA 12 volt batteries and a folding chair into mine and still get to drive around in very sumptuous comfort
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And why would you be getting the Parat in the car ?, unless you have finished it and not told me !!!!!
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best one on my opinion is a Dacia Logan, not to sure if its available in the UK yet..??
seats folded there is 1.5m length and 1.m width (between the wheels) available in the boot...
i get my normal Regatta stuff (Gazebo, chairs, table, 2 boats and 2 hard metal cases) in the boot with out folding down the seats, yes i have one of these type of cars.... and i have done close on 180000km since i have had it.
http://www.dacia.co.uk/ (http://www.dacia.co.uk/) shows only the duster
http://www.dacia.de/dacia_logan_mcv_kombi.php (http://www.dacia.de/dacia_logan_mcv_kombi.php) shows the Logan Asstate
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My chauffeur informs one that there is a considerable amount of of boot space in my weekend car. :-))
(http://s14.postimage.org/4i4x1sl6l/Rolls_Royce_100_EX_Centenary_Concept_2004_800x600_wallpaper_0f.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4i4x1sl6l/) (http://s17.postimage.org/9z0uujmqz/Rolls_Royce_100_EX_Centenary_Concept_2004_800x600.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9z0uujmqz/)
(http://s17.postimage.org/kbn5gmga3/Rolls_Royce_100_EX_Centenary_Concept_2004_800x600.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kbn5gmga3/) (http://s17.postimage.org/m5zzyd3aj/rolls_royce_picnic_in_boot_crop_600x398.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/m5zzyd3aj/)
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Dont bother with a Reno Grand Scenic
76 by 45 but you have to remove one
or more seats completely
Ned
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My chauffeur informs one that there is a considerable amount of of boot space in my weekend car. :-))
I feel someone is not taking this subject entirely seriously {-)
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Forget the Zafira, they're an Astra and not a lot of length in the boot.
I'm looking at a C5 Estate off a guy at work - they're bloody huge O0, he can lay straight out in the boot when the rear seats are folded down with space to spare :-))
Mark.
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Hearses have the room you need
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Ned
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A friend of mine went to a car dealer to buy a new car (secondhand). After looking round a "salesman" came up to him and asked if he would like a test drive. No says my friend, but do you have a tape measure? Salesman produces tape measure and is asked to fold down the seats. Friend wields tape measure and says "I'll have this one". Salesman cannot believe he doesn't want a test drive {-) %% {-)
By the way, the car was an Audi Estate - not sure which model - but it took a 1 metre yacht fully rigged plus other models.
Barrie
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My friend actually took his destroyer round the the car dealerships and test fit it to each one before he made a purchase.
I knew what I wanted, but and compared all online for price, space and options, and finally got it down to the Toyota Matrix.
Then I called around to six car dealerships asking for color and options. By the end of the day I had four salesman, calling back over
the purchase and price. Two had the car on the lot, and one wouldn't deal at all. My biggest complaint the car has features I "don't want".
The salesman that won dropped the price $4000 :-)
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I've just been to measure the Superb. To mix scales, it's a good 6' long, by 1m wide at the arches and there's 80cm between the floor and top of the tail gate arch.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq277/rbm109/Nobby/DSC00388.jpg)
That's the marblehead in there.
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My chauffeur informs one that there is a considerable amount of of boot space in my weekend car. :-))
Whereas when I go out for a little sunshine, my minders just ensure that there are enough cars to carry the models...
(http://s13.postimage.org/8wfp2jy5v/rollers.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8wfp2jy5v/)
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I didn't knew that you need lorry in this hobby Martin {-)
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Forget the Zafira, they're an Astra and not a lot of length in the boot.
I'm looking at a C5 Estate off a guy at work - they're 'blinking!' huge O0, he can lay straight out in the boot when the rear seats are folded down with space to spare :-))
Mark.
I can get a pair of 700 size helis in the boot of a Zafira A without the main back seats down, Have to put them in diagonally tho.
Its hissing down with rain here but Ill get you the measurements in the morning
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I am soon to scrap my old faithful Ford Mondeo estate, rust, poetic justice really! Am looking for internal dimensions of a replacement, am finding cubic capacity in Litres. As I am not planning on using this vehicle as a milk float this is of no use to me. Can it fit a 67" Type VII U-Boat straight in? These are the questions rarely addressed on specialist sites!
So, we all build boats and loads of us use our cars to transport the models to the pond. Maybe it is time to start recording these vital dimensions for fellow modellers out there.
I will start;
Ford Mondeo Estate ( Old shape, pre 2000) Seats folded ( the only important dimension!) 73" length, 44" across the wheel arches ( narrowest point ).
Ford Focus Estate 04 plate, seats folded, 68" length 44" across wheel arches.
Who has a Vauxhall Zafira ( older or newer model ) and a tape measure?
New Zafira with rear seats down 45"x 36" long
with rear and middle seats down 45"x 60" long
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My chauffeur informs one that there is a considerable amount of of boot space in my weekend car. :-))
Why just a weekend car martin? can,t you afford to run it all week ?? %) {-) {-)
john
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My S Reg Hyundai Lantra may be a large car, but the seats don't fold down and the boot is a separate compartment. Maximum size for a scale ship is 1.45 m on the back seat.
My wife has a Vauxhall Zafira. I did ask her if I could borrow it for sailings days just so I could build bigger boats. You know that when you get that certain raised eyebrows look that you are entering a minefield. I have not brought the subject up again. %)
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none , it houses my gfs electric scooter , a spare fuel can ( 2 gallon ) plus a spare wheel / jack & a few roadside tools ! lots of nice tax exempt estate cars & hearses on ebay ! did notice a decent looking ex ambulance bodied yank last week , loads of room in those .
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New Zafira with rear seats down 45"x 36" long
with rear and middle seats down 45"x 60" long
Dicky,
That's about the same as ours, (on a 54 plate), but the problem with ours is that the middle seats don't lie flat when folded and the 60" is the length on the floor. I tried putting a 60" fish-tank in ours, but because of the seats sloping back and the rear door sloping fwd, I could only just fit a 48" long 18" tall tank in.
Mark.
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Sorry didnt realize he wanted to carry fish tanks.
Can get all my boats in mine with middle seats in position, not all at once, plus collapsible table and wheel chair.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/The%20Fleet/TheFleet.jpg)
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Sorry didnt realize he wanted to carry fish tanks.
I don't think he does :} I was just using it as an example of how much space you can lose as your height requirement goes up.
He wants to put a 67" long u-boat in it :-))
Mark.
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Unbuiltnautilus.
I have an idea how about a .......Ford Mondeo estate ?.
Just about the Biggest space going with the rear seats down.
Regards sub.
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Forget the Zafira, they're an Astra and not a lot of length in the boot.
I'm looking at a C5 Estate off a guy at work - they're 'blinking!' huge O0, he can lay straight out in the boot when the rear seats are folded down with space to spare :-))
Mark.
Not being morbid but a lot of funeral directors use Citroen c5s for 'removals'. They have loads of room in the back.
Dave.
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And why would you be getting the Parat in the car ?, unless you have finished it and not told me !!!!!
I did not say this Parat !
I did have both Tito and "Venture" in the back of the CR-V which is how I know they both fit along with the other stuff needed for a jolly fine day out
NB: this Parat is due to get her bottom wet Sunday just to see how it sits with the revamped battery position ( I may even take a picture or two)
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about to change my car soon, - for an estate,
the mondeo has one of the largest boots in that class of car, the mazda 6 estate is pretty close, the passat is good too - looked at a BCA car auction website recently.... the citroen c5 estate is a big car and boy they dont seem to hold their value.... ok if your a buyer !!!!
me i think the mazda or the passat will be on my shopping list.....
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I tried to get two nice models in the back of my Fiat Punto
My case comes up in court next week :}
Dave
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So you can fit a case in the back then :}
Bob
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I feel someone is not taking this subject entirely seriously {-)
I agree, get rid of the chauffeur {-) {-)
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How about a streched Hummer. %%
Only comes in pink though. :P
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Hello,
Have a look at a 3 Series BMW Estate.
I have big yachts, they fit in easily - - and, chairs, tents, sleeping gear- - - and Me !!.
John, :-))
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the mondeo has one of the largest boots in that class of car,
Fords were big. The next size up from the Mondeo was the Granada/Scorpio, which stopped being made in 1998, with the last one sold in 2000. The estate was HUGE! Oddly, the last variant, the Scorpio, is on its way to becoming a classic car, and has quite an impressive club website. You could probably buy one from there for under £1000 - and they did a Cosworth 2.9L 24valve, which was quite brisk, by all accounts...
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/ (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/)
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I have a 3 series estate and the cargo area isn't anywhere near as big as mt old vectra.
Bob
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It also depends how much you want to spend on the car.
Or fixing it afterwards!!!!
Bob
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Peugeot 806
Approx. up to 6ft x 4ft to the back of the front seats, height depending on how you fold or remove the middle and rear sets, but plenty variations available.
If you use the full passenger side, anything up to 10ft x 21ins, and still have seats for 3 or 4 people, or space for 'extras'.
With all the rear seats removed, it takes a fully assembled 1/6th scale Mersey Lifeboat with ease, and still has space for more.
Peter
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This might seem silly , but what about strapping container with boat on the roof.
There is only limit weight, which could be helped with roller , while length is limited with length of the car.
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I've got one of these now ...... http://youtu.be/sEsE-abmtT0 (http://youtu.be/sEsE-abmtT0) Tons of room, not actually measured with the complete 'seat-down ' arrangement as I get my canvasses and boats in easily without it, but I've never known so much room internally. I like unorthodox solutions.. :D
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Just to give you an idea of just how big the boot in a C5 estate is,I can put a 2m larder fridge freezer into the back of mine. :-))
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Well I get by nicely on a Colt Hatchback. Just loaded up for todays club regatta and, admittedly with the back seats up, has the grand total of a 32 inch MA/SB, 29 Inch Steam Picket boat, 20 inch Graupner Lifeboat, Toolbox, Seat, Lunchbox, Table, 2 tx, box full of charged batteries and other various odds and ends. And still room to spare.
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I tried to get two nice models in the back of my Fiat Punto
Dave
Were they blonde?
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I could fit my 88" Dreadnought in a Nissan Almera.
(It required the back seats folded down, and the passenger seat taken out. Four bolts and two minutes with a socket wrench.)
Amazing what will fit when you think outside the box.
Andy
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I've got a PT Cruiser-with the seats folded flat (front & rear passenger) i have 92" of space & it's all one level
nearly caused a divorce when i bought it!!!
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After having a new Ford Focus company car which wont fit hardly anything in I bought myself a Jeep but a couple of boats are six and eight foot so I sold the Jeep and bought this Citreon C4 Grand Picasso at the weekend, bags of room with all passenger seats folded flat.....
Russ
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You know you are an addict when the boats dictate your choice of car lol :D
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After having a new Ford Focus company car which wont fit hardly anything in I bought myself a Jeep but a couple of boats are six and eight foot so I sold the Jeep and bought this Citreon C4 Grand Picasso at the weekend, bags of room with all passenger seats folded flat.....
Russ
That's a nice looking ride, we don't see many of those over here.
This is my Nissan XTerra loaded for the pond. There's room for a table and canopy/tent with seats folded down.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Pescador58/RC%20Vehicles/winston.jpg)
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Hearses have the room you need
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Ned
i wouldnt be seen dead in a hearse {-) {-)
ill get my coat :P
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i wouldnt be seen dead in a hearse {-) {-)
ill get my coat :P
We had one advertised in our local paper recently with a seized engine
I said to the wife "That wont sell.... he's floggin a dead hearse"
Pass me mine while you're there
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Unbuiltnautilus.
I have an idea how about a .......Ford Mondeo estate ?.
Just about the Biggest space going with the rear seats down.
Regards sub.
You know what, you might be right, having the horse manure removed and new clutch put in, should be collecting by weekend.. Ford Mondeo Estate. It aint pretty, but i'm looking out and not in.
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I like the stacking system Tombsy.
john
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...Hi Guys...
My R reg Ford Galaxy 1.9 turbo deisel is massive inside...It hasn,t been beaten yet by a model boat...It just eats them up...
"Big Blue" is pictured here delivering a load of timber for our club house renovation project...
We can travel with 5 adults and our tugs with no problems at all...
...Best Regards...Norry...
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Umm.... you're meant to make the boat BEFORE you arrive at the pond.... :}
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Umm.... you're meant to make the boat BEFORE you arrive at the pond.... :}
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i think it was acually him building his coffin for when she who must not be named finds out that he has picked up ANOTHER boat O0 O0
unfortunatly i dont have a car so getting to local clubs is problematic ( as none of my friends are into the hobby )
but my friend owns a mitsubishi m200 with the rear cab installed and it is mahoosive
its completly kitted out for off roading with gigantic tyres, snorkal kit and everything else
might even be able to launch boats off the pickup bed by reversing into the water
feul consumption is a different matter tho {:-{
although a herse would be a good idea tbh
would fit in with the whole 'goth' look O0
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Always fancied a hearse, then hot-rod it, nice big engine, lower it, fat tyres on the back, never thought about how practical it'd be with the flat bed and rollers in the back!
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Motorbike and sidecar combo
Speed towards lake
Brake hard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Self Launching Boat.
Oh and there really is a motorbike hearse service available too (honestly) .... for Bikerdude's Boats O0
Dave
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I've seen that at a few shows, goes by the name of 'the faster pastor' or something. There's also a v8 trike with an articulated trailer that's a hearse!
Back on topic, 1litre corsa, not much room in the boot, just had to get someone to cut 1 of my hills in half so I can fit it in the boot, and still take the gf, baby and pushchair on the back seats.
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Motorbike and sidecar combo
Speed towards lake
Brake hard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Self Launching Boat.
Many years ago, a 'friend' talked me into letting him have a go in my outfit,
too fast round a left hander,
braked, hit lamp-post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Self Launching Passenger :} :}
He nearly suffered a broken his nose, but agreed to pay for the damages after all <*<
Mark.