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Dry Dock / Shipyard: Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: Stavros on June 04, 2012, 11:54:13 PM

Title: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 04, 2012, 11:54:13 PM
Well I have acquired a Happy Hunter Tug off a friend of Guy Bagley(Yes he does have some friends ) and will be doing a blog of this refurbishment.
This was bought at Wickstead Park at the Mayhem event and nearly caused a Divorce,I think Mrs J has cooled down now she has realised I sold my Yacht for the same as the purchase price if NOT Guy YOU are in serious trouble.
The hull it'self is in quite a sad state to be perfectly honest and will require some remedial work in the filling and painting dept,but nothing I hope that is to major.

Power wise I am going to run it on a golf trolley motor on 12v backed up with 2x 900 motors as this has allready got 3 shafts fitted to it.And before anyone tells me YES I do know the hunter has only 2 Kort nozzles but to keep costs down and as there is no play in any of the shafts I will use it as is so to speak.

First job today was removing the centre shaft which I managed with ease all it needed was tapping with a hammer to move it approx 1 inch further rearward to facilitate the fitting of a 5 inch 4 bladed prop,both shafts either side of this were in remarkable condition for their age.The rudder has really caused me a headache as it was comming through the deck and as far as I was concerned was a big no no.The rear deck has had to be removed to gain access to the bigest lump of filler I have seen at least 2 inches thick ...a right recipe for disaster in my opinion.As this filler was removed a hole has appeared in the stern of the tug this will be a simple repair with Grp matting and resin and whilst repairing this I will bond a block of wood the the stern so a new rudder post can go in and allow the servo horn to be under the deck and unseen.
A new motor tray will be also bonded into the hull whilst the grp is out.

Pi cures willl be posted hopefully tomorrow night of the tug and what has been done so  far


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: gingyer on June 05, 2012, 12:18:17 AM
Saw this at the weekend and it's a monster  :-))
Finished for next years mayhem weekend O0 O0
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: chipchase on June 05, 2012, 11:56:17 AM
Good luck with the refurbishment Dave I have seen some excellent models of this tug.
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 05, 2012, 10:07:23 PM
Thanks Martin you beat me to it

1 in the workshop
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012126mod.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012131mod.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012125mod.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012129mod.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012130mod.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012132mod.jpg)

2 Showing hole that appeared after grinding back the stern to fit  a proper rudder

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012133modf.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012128mod.jpg)


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 05, 2012, 10:18:50 PM
First job today  was to install the modified main shaft this was fixed into place with Isopon P40 fiberglass whilst this was curing I made 2 wood blocks to fill the stern so the new rudder post could be placed,This has been temporarily glued with Zap.A motor mounting board was also fixed to the hull and the motor and shaft aligned.One job I will have to do is to make some short shafts as the 900 motors will have to be set slightly further away due to space issues.The rudder gimball and shaft have been made and the rudder blade has also been manufactured,this will be silver soldered to the shaft.I have used an old prop shaft for the rudder shaft

wood blocks set in place to accept the rudder post

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012134mod.jpg)

Propeller

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012127mod.jpg)

The little motor that will power her

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012136mod.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012135mod.jpg)

Rudder Shaft awaiting the blade to be soldered

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012137mod.jpg)


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 07, 2012, 10:50:38 PM
Well tonight was a good night as the rudder blade has been silver soldered to the shaft so thats another job out of the way.I have also started on the front mast in Brass pics of that tomorrow

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012138mod.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012139mod.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012140mod.jpg)


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: nlldavies on June 07, 2012, 11:02:24 PM
All this work already Stav  :embarrassed: ... your putting me to shame with the Huntsman.
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 07, 2012, 11:42:54 PM

Something that big needs something like this! - http://youtu.be/q_0xifuTqVA (http://youtu.be/q_0xifuTqVA)
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: nlldavies on June 07, 2012, 11:57:02 PM
Something that big needs something like this! - http://youtu.be/q_0xifuTqVA (http://youtu.be/q_0xifuTqVA)

That'll upset a few of the green brigade  O0

Hypnotic sound.
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Guy Bagley on June 08, 2012, 09:18:49 AM
just glad i could put seller and buyer  together-i was merely a delivery service !!!

 it was not my boat ( its timber for a start !!! {-))  but i knew a member of our club wanted to find a new home for it as it was getting too big and too heavy for him to work on.... and i knew stav was looking for a challenge.... !

 will let Bob Gaines know you are doing a blog so he can watch and see the work you are doing, he will be glad to see the model on the water again...

( he also has a 9 foot long kingswear castle !!!!)- he builds big !

Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Norseman on June 08, 2012, 10:04:08 PM
9 feet of this would be impressive: http://www.shipphotos.co.uk/pages/kingswearcastle.htm
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 09, 2012, 11:00:34 PM
Picture of the front mast

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012146pp.jpg)

Today I decided to make the Railings around the Bridge area and the rail across the front of the Bridge,these were made up of welding wire and soft soldered

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012145jj.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012143vv.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012144hh.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012155mm.jpg)

After completing this it was time to Make the lower deck area just under the bridge complete with a set of Ladders to the main deck

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012147j.jpg)

You will notice that the right hand side of the ladder seems wonky but this was before it got soldered up

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012148l.jpg)

Now showing the top rail

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012149kk.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012150n.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012152mb.jpg)

The whole of the Bridge superstructure has now been disassembled prior to a full sand down and repainting which will commence shortly

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/CopyofWickstead2012154mn.jpg)


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Tug-Kenny on June 09, 2012, 11:06:13 PM

I know a man that can paint ...........     :}

Your doing a fine job on this one Dave. Looking forward to the painting section.

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 09, 2012, 11:20:38 PM
You offering to paint it Ken


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: debssnal on June 09, 2012, 11:22:58 PM
You got a lot done dave,looking good mate.
Keep up the good work.
regards
Alan
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 13, 2012, 07:51:43 PM
Well the 2 old out shafts were removed this afternoon due to me not being to get the right props in M5 so 2 new shafts were purchased and 2x 55mm 4 blade props also.These have been glued in awaiting some application of P40 to seal them in.The outer Motors 900MMB ones have been also installed.I have also started on the wiring so a new Electronics board has been installed this will be made removal just in case !!!!
All the electronics are going to be ACTion of course,I will be usuing 1 of Dave megga esc for the Golf cart Motor a P94 for hte outer motors and rudder,Alos a full sound system will go into her as well as switchers for the lights and there wil be 2 pumps for the 2 fire monitors.

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012287o.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012289m.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012290n.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/Wickstead2012288b.jpg)


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 17, 2012, 09:06:44 PM
Had a good weekend working on the tug loats achieved and boy am I a happy chappie.I decided to install some of the electrics in the tug starting with 2 of Dave ACTion's Distribution boards one will be for the speed controlllers the other will be for the sound system/lights and fire monitor pumps.

And yes Dave it all works wonderfull thing this WELSH ELECTRICITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

The following have been installed
2 x Distribution boards
Esc for the main motor
P94 for the outer 900 motors
Amp for the sound system
Fog Horn
2 way switcher
Fire Monitor pump(not wired yet)

 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General300m.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General300m.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General298m.jpg)

Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 17, 2012, 09:14:38 PM
Next on my hit list were the washports but I only managed one side...got sidetracked the other side will be done tomorrow

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General294m.jpg)

I then decided it was time to manufacter the life raft holders on the front of the superstructure these were made of brass rod and soldered to the railings

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General301m.jpg)

As I was in the mood for soldering the rear railings were built and the 2 set of steps were also put in

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General293m.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General296m.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General297m.jpg)

After this mamoth soldering task it was time then to make the rear deck covers as I had to modify the originas to instal the new rudder assembly

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General295m.jpg)


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Barty230 on June 17, 2012, 09:35:28 PM
Nice one Mate...but you can stop for food occassionally!!!!     I'm impressed :-))
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 17, 2012, 10:23:27 PM
Thanks Bruce yup it is now getting to be a bit on the heavy side,me thinks and engine hoist in the trailer might be the ans to launching her,do you htink there is enough water in Wat Tyler for her lol


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: chipchase on June 18, 2012, 10:21:46 AM
She is coming along nicely Dave, :-)) she should sail well. I was looking at a Happy Hunter at the weekend at Balne Moor smaller than the one you have and I was very impressed with the way she sailed. 
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 20, 2012, 10:02:12 PM
More Brass work has been made namely the towing frames and some Bollards,also work has started on the stern roller

Bollard pieces

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General304m.jpg)

Completed

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General305m.jpg)


Towing irons


(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General306m.jpg)

Stem Roller

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General307m.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General308m.jpg)

Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Tug-Kenny on June 20, 2012, 10:04:50 PM

Why not fit a real roller in place as it would be more authentic ?

ken

Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 20, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
Ken fair comment BUT space is a problem even on this size of hull and if I am right and will stand corrected on this I dont think the original had a full roller just exactly what I have put on the model


dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: nemesis on June 20, 2012, 10:43:59 PM
Hi, Just make sure you have a good Truss as you do not want to herniate yourself. Nemesis
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on June 20, 2012, 10:52:37 PM
Ken I will ans my last post,yes she did have a proper roller on her stern just found some pics of it and it looks like a right piglet to manufacture so |I will pass on that one and leave it as is Belive you me it would take a lot of Hull reengineering to get it rigth !!!!!!!

Large truss allready on order and STEEL toe capped waders for when she is launched.Fun bit will be ballasting her and she is just a tad to big for the bath


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on July 08, 2012, 11:14:38 PM
Right it has been very quiet on this build due to technical issues,OK OK OK Stavros dropped a clanger  :embarrassed:

Plan A
I originally started off with a Golf Buggy motor and a 150mm prop so off I went to LLanfairfechan Lake full of expectation of whatever boy oh boy did I come back depressed,first run revealed a blown 15 amp fuse on the ACTion distribution Board so Nigel was duly dispatched to raid my Car Fuse box and came back with some 25 ampers  wey hey said I that Will cure it,Huh yes it did BUT performance was pants,but it was far better when I opted to use both the 900 motors in Fwd mode,mmmmm trouble was I had to go and rescue the tug as it promptly blew the 25 amp main feed into the dist board.so I went for plan B

Plan B
Well I had a brain Storm AGAIN and fitted a 900 motor swinging a 150mm Prop as main drive for testing purposes.Well after 25 yds there was this haze appearing over the lake mmmmmmm motor got slightly hot....Wonder WHY HA HA............Back to the drawing board as Performance was still pants.

Plan C
Refitted the Buggy Motor but this time I de propped it down to a 100mm Prop and off testing I went WEY hey much improved at least the motor was getting near it's potential.But still not near what I wanted.

Plan D
Totally rewired the tug took the Action dist board out main reasoning for this is simple really I am now running a Brushless motor and esc so I was not able to use the board for it's power supply.I have now installed a car fuse box to supply all the feeds for the Esc's etc,the Action products are not Bec supported BUT as the Brushless esc is that can supply the receiver with the power to enable the Action stuff to work.I dare say Dave will tar and feather me for such an installation but we are dealing with WELSH ELECTRICITY Mr Milbs !!!!!!!!!. So testing I went and boy oh boy was that EVENTFULL to say the least.

There I was with the car at the waters edge in LLanfairfechan putting on my waders when I heard an almighty splash and a scream.A child of 5 had only gone and ridden his Bike straight into the lake well I didn't even get my wading shoes on it was in I went hoping and praying there was no glass on the bottom let alone the kid was OK,luckily enough he bobbed up to the surface crying about his BIKE.He was quickly dispatched to his Mum's arms and then wrapped in one of Tommy's blankets,you will have seen Tommy at Mayhem...the unadopted Mayhem Mascot.With all this Excitement I could not wait to go testing.

I can not possible repeat what a passer by said when he saw the tug go,.. well Alan (debsnnal) all I can say is well how can I put it you all heard of a speedyboat forget that one I got a SPEEDYTUG Holy Moses it gets up and planes and it only be on 12v I shudder to think what it would do on 24v I don't think I want to even go there.!!!!!!!!!!!. Well I said to my self WOW great now where's the camera,picked it up and set tug off fwd and then YES you have all guessed it DISASTER the sheer torque of this monster Motor ripped my prop UJ apart,and no it wasn't a dyco type,it was the rubber hose type,so Ill get straight on the phone tomorrow and get one ordered.
One thing I will add is DON'T GET IN FRONT OF THIS TUG  simple as it weight more than 100lbs and believe you me it will NOT stop Quickly at all !!!!

Link to new Motor

http://www.giantshark.co.uk/epower-bl4030-385kv-brushless-outrunner-motor-p-257.html (http://www.giantshark.co.uk/epower-bl4030-385kv-brushless-outrunner-motor-p-257.html)


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: ACTion on July 09, 2012, 08:00:47 AM
I dare say Dave will tar and feather me for such an installation but we are dealing with WELSH ELECTRICITY Mr Milbs !!!!!!!!!.
No - we are dealing with a Welshman, and not just any old Welshman, either. I reckon a 900 on 18v, geared down, would have done the job, but what do I know? Your wiring is nearly as good as your painting these days, Dave, and you had the good sense to realise that a P92 D/B wouldn't handle the current that this motor can draw. 8/10 overall for the electrickery.  That said, why on earth did you want a model this  big?? I thought you'd gone over to straight running  8)
DM
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: chingdevil on July 09, 2012, 11:28:33 AM
Phil does the running because Daves models do not go straight {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-).


That Hunter is coming along nicely Dave, has your missus forgiven you for buying it?


Brian
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on July 09, 2012, 12:31:42 PM
Well Dave as Brian has so kindly pointed out mine dont exactly go straight and me and Phil have invented a new Olimpic sport the 100mtr wader race,and in my mind Phil would get gold medal.

It took a lot of sweet tallking Brian took her a while to come down off the celing

Why a boat of this size.......simples no one has one .....Got to be different thats me




dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on July 11, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
Well thanks to Steve of Model Boat bits I recieved a BOMB proof coupling this morning so it would have been rude not to have tested it tonight,OH am I HAPPY bunny tonight it is all systems go with teh build now.I am trying to upload a vid at the mo and as soon as it s up ill post a link anyway some photos as tasters

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General407m.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General406m.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General405m.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General408m.jpg)

Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: nlldavies on July 11, 2012, 10:48:33 PM
..... first run revealed a blown 15 amp fuse on the ACTion distribution Board so Nigel was duly dispatched to raid my Car Fuse box and came back with some 25 ampers  wey hey said I that Will cure it,Huh yes it did ..... Dave

Winters getting nearer, you'll need to get the glow plugs back up and operational on the audi again  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on July 11, 2012, 10:51:52 PM
Well that figures why I was having problems starting it the oter morning


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on July 11, 2012, 11:15:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJkYYsYY4VY&feature=youtu.be



Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on July 11, 2012, 11:24:44 PM
And BEFO|RE anyone picks up on it I hearby APPOLOGISW for the naughty word at the end of the video,I accidentally switched the transmitter off and lost controll of the boat so had to drop camera and catch her before she rammed the side


Dave........Now sat on the naughty step
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: A71 on July 12, 2012, 12:03:04 AM
Lol that last few seconds made me laugh my brother did the same thing but he thought he was switching the trim tab I believe he was flying a 3D model that he had just finished he then took it home in a bag  :o

Still can't get over how big this is
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on July 12, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
Another vid of the tug tonight


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHtZcr2jVg8&feature=youtu.be



Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Guy Bagley on July 12, 2012, 08:40:15 AM
looking good
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Tug-Kenny on July 12, 2012, 10:35:46 AM

Well you've got the power.  Very impressive Sir.   :-))


ken
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: armc40 on July 12, 2012, 02:02:43 PM
And BEFO|RE anyone picks up on it I hearby APPOLOGISW for the naughty word at the end of the video,I accidentally switched the transmitter off and lost controll of the boat so had to drop camera and catch her before she rammed the side


Dave........Now sat on the naughty step


Nuffin wrong with 'rowlocks' is there ?
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: 110samec on July 15, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
Your doing a grand job of that. How old is the model and will you be keeping the colour scheme?
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on July 16, 2012, 06:35:32 PM
I honestly dont know how Old she is at all Maybee Guy could comment when he reads this as for colour scheme I will be painting her the Proper Happy Hunter colours of Red antifouling,Yellow hull,Grey deck and White superstucture, I am afraid that the Blue on the superstucture and deck is totally incorrect for this Tug.
I am hoping to get the Hiab crane to rurn and lift and the 2 fire canons will obviously spray water.


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on July 22, 2012, 10:42:54 PM
Well had a very successful day out today at the Colwyn Bay show where she made her first pubic debut in her new Guise.She didn't let me down either with only one small teething fault the bile pump was connected the wrong way it was blowing not sucking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.Ran her solidly for well over 3 hours not a single motor got even warm well pleased.

Next step is to strip her down and take her to work where I will apply some 2 pack primer to the hull and then a new coat of yellow and paint the antifouling as well,the deck will go primer grey but before I apply that I will give the deck a coat of Lacquer to seal the deck.....reasoning behind this is simple really primer is porous and would let water into the wood not good at all  O0...Clear lacquer will seal it so I can then apply grey primer .

Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Guy Bagley on July 23, 2012, 09:24:59 AM
the boat i know is over 20 yrs old, -after that i cant  be sure,  built originally by a member of the black park club by the name of 'steve', this was in the 80's - i remeber him building the hull and bringing it up for testing all those years ago - if memory serves me right it was primarily built for a endurance event that was run at that time .... it was then sold onto a chap called Bob Gaines who builds big ! -( he has a 9ft paddle steamer )

Bob planned to strip it and give her  a total refurb- but  like many of us Bob had too many models on the go at the time and she sat there gathering dust...
 
i would say she has been gathering dust for about 8 years, Bob is now retired and decided this boat is just not going to get done and its too big, too heavy  to realistically handle on his own... so he made noises about selling it on....

i heard stav was looking for a big tug and so i put buyer and seller together !- simples
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on August 18, 2012, 07:23:07 PM
Well hasn't it been quiet on this thread till now  O0 {-)

Having decided to attend the RNLI fundraising day at Wallesey this weekend it was suddeny decided at 1pm on Fri to tidy the old girl up so off it went to the unit.Well to say I had a brainstorm was an understatement \I had originally had thought of just rubbing down the hull putting some filler on patch prime the repairs and just lacquer the hull to seal it BUT Stav works in mysterious ways sometimes !!!!
Having prepared the hull with 80 grit paper it was time to use 180 grit yet again used dry,sorry friends but I cheated as I used a dual action sander on the hull well as \I got one it would have been rude not to wouldn't it.After this things took a sudden turn for the better well for Me it did.Whilst taking out the primer I spotted a product we use in the Car trade called Rocket and the devil really came into my head and thought Primer + Rocket = superfast drying and Wey Hey straight on with the colour Simples really.

As a Professional painter it is so so easy to take advantage of the products that are to hand and cheat a little.We in the trade can use a system called Wet on Wet which in fact is what it says,basically as soon as the primer is dry apply the topcoat.....PLEASE DO NOT TRY TIS WITH HALFORDS RATTLE CANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.It will NOT work....WHY I hear you ask .....Well the paint we Professionals use is 2 pack and it is a chemically drying paint and not a paint that relies on solvent evaporation.

You will have read that I only rubbed down with 80 then 180 Well with 2 pack you can get away with this process DO NOT try it with aerosols it will END  IN TEARS

4 coats of the Yellow were then applied to the hull and left to dry.After a couple of days I will apply the Red antifouling.As soon as the deck is sprayed Grey the hull will have it's final coat of Yellow.

Just to give you an idea of the speed of this process I started at 1pm and was going home at 430 with the hull in yellow !!!!!!!!!!!!!


(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General4922.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/General4911.jpg)
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: mersey dave on August 18, 2012, 07:30:51 PM
That sure looks good Dave, i must remember my sun glasses tomorrow. :-)) :-)) :-))


Rgards Dave.
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on August 22, 2012, 09:44:36 PM
Right then after a good sail on Sunday on the wirral I have now started to strip down the superstructure ready to paint.

Now this is where Dave is now going to CHEAT a bit on the build,a very good friend of mine YES i do have some,has agreed to build me the Hiab all the masts etc and as I have allready had some work done by him in the past I can only rate his work as SUPERB He goes by the Name on Ebay of Boatman Wales and usually has some Guns etc for sale.If any member on here want any boat part scratch built then drop me  pm and I will put you in contact with Derek.main reason for the slight diversification is simple really ....lack of time due to work etc.

So far he has built the hiab which will be motorised and will traverse left and right and up and down have a look at the build quality of this

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/happy20hunter20crane200091.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/happy20hunter20crane200131.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/happy20hunter20crane200111.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/happy20hunter20crane200101.jpg)


More to follow as I get them


Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Neil on August 22, 2012, 10:04:32 PM
that's avery nice bit of kit Dave.
neil.
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Norseman on August 23, 2012, 02:17:15 AM
Yep - and very worthy of it's own little build log- because I need to have one O0

Dave
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on October 28, 2012, 05:19:52 PM
Right then lets catch up from where I left off
 
I suddenly realised it was the international boat show in a couple of weeks so PANIC has set in,yesterday the deck was painted in grey so today I could take it to my unit to spray the hull.
 
The hull was rubbed down dry with 500 grit paper and spirit wiped and tack ragged prior to the waterline being marked and masked up,the newly painted deck was also marked up.
 
The anti fouling was sprayed on using Halfords plastic primer in red as this to me is a truer representaion of anti fouling than their red oxide....personal choice !!!!
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild010.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild009.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild007.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild006.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild008.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild027.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild026.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild030.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild029.jpg)
 
 
Stav
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on October 28, 2012, 05:33:59 PM
Right then I now needed to rub down and primer the superstructure in readyness for the top coat this I rubbed down with 180 paper dry and coated with Lechler 2 pack primer filler I applyed this with my weapon of choice a Davellbis JGA spray gun.The primer is mixed in a ration of 5 paint 1 hardener and 10% thinners ok this is for proffesu=ional use by spray gun application.BUT you can of course apply it with a brush or roller !!!!!!!!!!
 
You like me can cheat with the best of them...what I mena by this is simple bruch it on and dry flat it smooth,perfectly ACCEPTABLE.....how many bodyshops apply primer with a roller nad then dry flat it ..........let me tell you ....LOADS,yes it is  a2 pack paint and dont be under any illusions about the dangers of it's use,I use a air fed mask to apply it by spray gun ......BUT if used in a well ventalated area with a roller and wearing a mask it is fairly safe to do this.
 
I WILL NOT ENTERTAIN ANY CLAIM FOR COMPO ETC AS A RESULT OF YOUR ILLNESS AFTER USING IT
 
Now you will notice that in some areas of the superstucture the primer looks like I have put it on with a trowel,this was done delliberatly and it is NOT runs.ALL will be revealled on the next thrilling installment.
 
Weapon of choice
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild017.jpg)
 
Primer
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild018.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild011.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild012.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild013.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild014.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild015.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild019.jpg)
 
Matt or satin used as guide coat
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild020.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild021.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild022.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild023.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild024.jpg)
 
Stav
 
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on October 28, 2012, 05:49:15 PM
Right then as previous post staed you will see that in the first pic I have primered the front of the superstructure all is well
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild016-1.jpg)
 
 
But To be honest with you it loos pants this is due to wood being used,now I had 2 options stop and fill with wither car filler or wood filler or use the product to my advantage and as it is called FILLER primer....the clue is in the capitals ;)
so as I said it was troweled on.ARGHHH I hear you all cry BUT it is perfectly acceptable to do this wiht this product as the paint hardens by chemical reaction so will harden with no problems at all.
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild025.jpg)
 
Now as it has been overcoated with a guide coat every dip bump etc is evident and will be dealt with tomorrow and all will be revealeed
 
Stav
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: irishcarguy on October 28, 2012, 06:52:19 PM
Great work Stav it must be nice to know that much about painting. Electrics & painting are my weak points, among a few others, LOL. I like the MGB GT's in the background though, that is what I do for a living. ( 50 Years & counting ) I will be following your work all the time & thanks for sharing your painting knowledge, any questions on the GT's though just ask me. Mick B.
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on October 30, 2012, 10:22:17 PM
Right then as promised an explanation why I trowelled the paint on,as I explained earlier this product is  PRIMER FILLER so th eclue is in the product,you can brush,roller or spray it on as Many bodyshops do just that.
 
Now as the wood has a grain and is difficult to hide even using the appropriate wood paint etc this product does the job in half the time so to speak,lash it on and rub it down to s smooth finish ....simples really
 
Right then there are 2 ways of doing this...either go in straight away with 500 grit paper DRY or start with 180 Grit then guid coat AGAIN with the black then use 500 grit to get rid of all the marks off the180 parper......NOW just to let you in on a small secret I DO NOT use wet/dry paper to do this ....NO WAY as it will clog what you need to use is what thye calll in the trade as DA discs.......available on EBAY in different grades YES I know and fully realise htat a box of a 100 will last you a lifetime .........bUT htink of it this way you will pay in Halfords 6 for 4 sheets of wet/dry....in my mind it is a NO brainer.
 
The main thing to get if using this system is a rubber block to make sure that you are rubbing down the primer smooth and even and not leaving finger print lines in it,in other words leaving groves,do not worry a thing about the thickness that you apply it will NOT crack in time at all.
 
Rubbing down block
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild034.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild033.jpg)
 
Looks bad doesnt it
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild031.jpg)
 
180 Grit starting to do it's job
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild032.jpg)
 
60 secs later
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild035.jpg)
 
All Gone
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild036.jpg)
 
I then guide coated this again and rubbed down with 500 to get a smooth finish like this....the baubles you see in hte pic are actually dust wich I should have wiped off before taking the photo.........Well come on guuys we ALL make Mistkaes ha ha
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild037.jpg)
 
Stav
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Now you see it
 
 
 
Now you dont
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: TheLongBuild on October 30, 2012, 10:41:43 PM
What yellow is that Stav, just looks like the lemon yellow on my First Car a VW Derby.. :}
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on October 30, 2012, 11:40:32 PM
Ford Signal yellow as used in the 70's
 
 
 
Stav
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on November 02, 2012, 07:47:30 PM
Right then superstructure was eventually painted White nad guess who forgot to take pics
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild060.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild059.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild058.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild063.jpg)
 
So it all has been painted so it's assembly time YIPPE
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild056.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild065.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild064.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild061.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild066.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild067.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild071.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild072.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild073.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild074.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild075.jpg)
 
More to follow tomorrow
 
 
Stav
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Tug-Kenny on November 02, 2012, 07:51:24 PM

Beautiful Stav.  Can't wait to see her at Warwick.     :-))


Ken

Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: chingdevil on November 02, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
Like Ken I look forward to seeing it at Warwick Stav, and of course you and Phil.
 
Brian
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on November 03, 2012, 11:19:48 PM
Hopefully tomorrow I should have finished her ready to go down to Warwick,not as finished as i really wanted bur hey ho this is work in progress more pics to come
 
Stav
Title: Re: Happy Hunter 5 footer
Post by: Stavros on November 04, 2012, 05:36:04 PM
Right then as Promised some more of the work in progress so to speak,One thing I had noticed that there were NO doors for the crew to come out on deck so to speak so this just had to be addressed so a door was made read to go on the superstructure
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild078.jpg)
 
There si supposed to be a tank on the fwd part of the superstructure deck so this was duly made and as it looked so plain I just had to detail it somehow,so engage brain into gear and around 100 pins were cut down to look like rivets
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild079.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild077.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild080.jpg)
 
The Hiab Boom needed a rest so this was constructed using a piece of square balsa and sheathed with plastic card
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild082.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild081.jpg)
 
As the Hiab will be a working version it was deemed necessarry to have a safe area around it duly a set of Brass railings were constructed and soldered together
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild083.jpg)
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild084.jpg)
 
A final pic for now of the Happy Hunter awaiting del to the Warwick show
 
(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo295/broomsrck/HappyHunterbuild085.jpg)
 
Dave