Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: wullie/mk2 on June 12, 2012, 07:49:36 pm
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If this situation had happened to anyone else, Social Services would be breathing down their necks, or the Police might be charging them with Neglect,....but if you are the Prime Minister and his missus,along with their bodyguards,and their bodyguards,.......well! its a different story,........"They were Forgetful".....
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Sorry wullie, but you are not right on this one. No room here to have a go...Let it go....please! :police:
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Sorry wullie, but you are not right on this one. No room here to have a go...Let it go....please! :police:
So what I read in the newspaper was Wrong perhaps???????
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Sorry wullie, but you are not right on this one. No room here to have a go...Let it go....please! :police:
Not right about What?????
this is from Reuters,
LONDON -- It's every parent's nightmare: To get home from an event and realize that a child is missing. But it can turn out to be a political minefield as well if you happen to be the prime minister.
British Prime Minister David Cameron's office confirmed Monday that he accidentally left his 8-year-old daughter Nancy in a country pub after a Sunday afternoon visit.
The incident sparked a debate in Britain about Cameron's parenting and comes only a few weeks after the government set up a program to give parents of young children classes in how to raise them,...now is where I would normally say, Nah Nah Ni Nah,but maybe I,ll just sit here with a smug grin on my moosh!!!!
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I think the issue is that child services wouldn't be all over parents for once leaving there child somewhere, and having to go back and get them, stuff happens, it's easy to think someone else has got something, only to later find they thought you had it... TBH good on them for just admitting it.
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I think the issue is that child services wouldn't be all over parents for once leaving there child somewhere, and having to go back and get them, stuff happens, it's easy to think someone else has got something, only to later find they thought you had it... TBH good on them for just admitting it.
..Stuff happens!,we,re not talking about a couple of minutes,it was 15mins,how do you forget about a child for that amount of time,Don,t they travel in the same car,..Oh! i thought you had her!...where,
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Apparently this all happened last April.
So why bring it up now?
But what got through to me was the way the Police developed "sloping shoulders" and declared that the "protection team" only looked after the PM and so it wasn't their fault. I find that hard to believe, frankly.
Perhaps the rozzers had thrown more down their necks than the Camerons. Nothing would surprise me these days about the behaviour of our "police". BY.
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Don,t they travel in the same car,..
Actually no they didnt. He went in one car assuming she had the child and vice versa.
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I think the issue is that child services wouldn't be all over parents for once leaving there child somewhere, and having to go back and get them, stuff happens, it's easy to think someone else has got something, only to later find they thought you had it... TBH good on them for just admitting it.
Exactly what I was getting at. Cheers...
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Actually no they didnt. He went in one car assuming she had the child and vice versa.
It does,nt really matter,"who thought who had,the child, the point is,children have been abducted in the blink of an eye, in the past,...a child should never be out of sight of its parents,in a public place,..has past events taught them nothing,
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It sounds like a balls up and not deliberate by any sense, despite my hatred and contempt for the man.
However news reports mention that he traveled separately with bodyguards (despite the fact when he became PM, he said that he wouldn't squander the country's money and spend it on protection) and so a mix up seems to be fair enough.
Not anything like the mc'cans leaving their kids for hours on end while they wine and dine is it.
Not very often I defend anything to do with the government but this I think has be taken out of proportion by the press. Im sure the PM's very embarrassed by the whole thing and rightly so.
Dan
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I wholeheartedly agree with you Dan :-))
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hardly rates a headline compared with the Euro and Syria.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you Dan :-))
Quick change of heart Wullie (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/Smileys/thinking1.gif)
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So as the bard said "Much ado about nothing"
Andre
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Quick change of heart Wullie (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/Smileys/thinking1.gif)
another Rivetcounter!!!!!...i will rephrase my wholeheartedness, Dan got it bang on about Cameron, and the implication of what could have happened,i.e McCanns!
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For goodness sake, it was an honest mistake >>:-( If it had been anyone else other than David Cameron and his wife no one would have even noticed but, typical of the low life press, they had to make a big thing of it. Get over it <*<
Peter.
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Got to agree with Peter
Geoff
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another Rivetcounter!!!!!...i will rephrase my wholeheartedness, Dan got it bang on about Cameron, and the implication of what could have happened,i.e McCanns!
Rubbish, Dan said it was nothing like the McCanns.
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My kids always try to leave me in the pub... :embarrassed:
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My kids always try to leave me in the pub... :embarrassed:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yWYJubR4PCo/SY3Trx4UBWI/AAAAAAAAF6M/wlceXhHsp20/s400/IMG_1511.jpg)
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Thats great I wish we a pub like that round here!! :-)) :-))
Dave:)
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My parents would leave me anywhere. I always found my way back. One term while away at school they moved house! Initiative testing they called it.
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And if you can't find your way back, it's called Alzhimers. (Keep testing SWTSMBO) {-)
Strange how the "Free" press are clutching at anything to smear the politicians with? Wonder if the "Enquirey" has anything to do with it.
Regards Ian.
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They only did what probably thousands of parents have done - made a mistake.
We left our new baby son in Tesco's in a buggy on the soap powder aisle - we got about four aisles away.
Panicked and ran back only to find him fast asleep - after that we carried him around shops.
Now 25 years later I'm still carrying him around, and he's still mostly asleep <*< usually I can end a post on a joke but <:( <:( <:(
Dave
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Rubbish, Dan said it was nothing like the McCanns.
Keep yer shirt on Dicky,I knew I should have gone to Specsavers,..
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For goodness sake, it was an honest mistake >>:-( If it had been anyone else other than David Cameron and his wife no one would have even noticed but, typical of the low life press, they had to make a big thing of it. Get over it <*<
Peter.
You should perhaps read the article in the Scottish Sun,"or low life press" today,..No its not about Cameron,..its about a child at a nursery in Glasgow, that somehow was able to wander away from the nursery, and was,nt missed,for some 20 mins,..the child was found by a passerby, very close to the M8,A full investigation has been started by both Police and SS,,,Not to be confused with another organisation,bearing the same initials, one care worker was sacked and another reprimanded,
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I'm not at all a fan of Nurseries Wullie .........
I rang one a few weeks ago to say they had a slate loose and overhanging the toddlers play area (toys were out underneath)
I was surprised to be told they already knew ......... er why were the toys out?
So when little Johny has a piece of Wales embedded deep in his head will it be called a 'tragic accident'
Dave
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A piece of Wales,...up here it could be very much worse, little Johny might end uo wearing a Ballachulish,...ive seen a 24in x 10in weighing as much as 10ib+,.....for those that don,t have a clue what were speaking about, apart from nurseries and little Johny,s head,we.re now on to slates,...Welsh & Scotch,
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Surely that's Welsh and Scottish (or Scots?)
though I would really like a Scotch on the slate Wullie :}
Dave
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You should perhaps read the article in the Scottish Sun,"or low life press" today
It was reported on the news here, too, but I rather think that case is very different. Having a toddler wandering the streets is far more serious than accidentally leaving your, much older, child in a pub for 15 minutes. I don't know the regulations in Scotland, but here all external doors and gates to a child care centre must be child proof, and any child leaving a centre must be signed out by an approved adult. That adult may be a parent, grandparent, a relation or someone designated by the parents. The child care centre must be advised of the name of such a person, and only those people are allowed to pick a specific child up from the centre.
I'm sure any inquiry into the Glasgow incident will want to know how the child was able to leave the nursery unnoticed.
Peter.
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Don't matter which of the services is involved, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Over or under reacting to whatever situation hits the headlines.
I don't know the regulations in Scotland, but here all external doors and gates to a child care centre must be child proof
Hope there's some leway in that one Peter in the event of a fire? Wasn't there something about a nursery down in your Hemisphere recently?
Can't cover all the bases all the time, life happens.
Regards Ian.
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Surely that's Welsh and Scottish (or Scots?)
though I would really like a Scotch on the slate Wullie :}
Dave
Dave, there are only 5 times that Scotch, can be used to refer to something but if there,s more then i can,t think of any,,although you do here of people calling the Scots, Scotch,like me calling England, Engerland, thought i,d better get that in before that rivetcounter {-) did,but this is wrong,..but getting back to Scotch,...1) is obviously whisky,2)Scotch slate,3) Scotch eggs,4)Scotch mist,5) Butterscotch,..if there are anymore, I,ve no doubt that I,ll hear it from someone
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Scotch Boiler
Ned
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Scotch Boiler
Ned
I,ve heard of a bunny boiler but Scotch is a new one on me, but I,ll add it too my list, Ta,
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Ask theold steamies about them
Or google it
Ned
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Thats way before my time, I,m only 62 a week on Saturday,...and if I want to see 63, i,d better get off this site, and get some logs in, as its chittering up here, {-)
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...more polemics , a "steamie" was the communal wash-houses in Glasgow and other Scottish cities and towns. O0
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They used to wash {-) {-) {-)
Ned
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,...1) is obviously whisky,2)Scotch slate,3) Scotch eggs,4)Scotch mist,5) Butterscotch,..if there are anymore, I,ve no doubt that I,ll hear it from someone
Tape?
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They used to wash {-) {-) {-)
Ned
...only the clothes %) Watching TV with one ear (good trick !), heard them say Scotch Thistle , the plant.
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Back to 'Leaving Children' please.
ken
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:-)
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Back to 'Leaving Children' please.
Well I'm thinking about it doing it again Ken, but he's twenty five now and would probably make his own way back {-)
Dave
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Oops I,ve been moderated,I,d better watch my P,s & Q,s or else I might get something else,
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Wullie are you having a bad day or what, Mick B.
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It may seem to some that i do have bad days,...but,there just not on my wavelength,.....life,s too short, to be taking things too serious,
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Need to start reading the Mail Wullie you will get less grief.
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Need to start reading the Mail Wullie you will get less grief.
Yes, once you've been told who to hate, life is much simpler.
Having read the Daily Mule, I started disliking everybody I was previously unsure about, and truly detesting everybody that I previously disliked, while turning to the opinion that the Nihilists that in my younger days that I had been taught were a "not good" thing, were, om available empirical evidence, the most valid game in town. {:-{
PS Wullie, there is another comma sign on the same button that does @. Makes reading so much easier :-))
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PS Wullie, there is another comma sign on the same button that does @. Makes reading so much easier :-))
but how do you do a tick - it's 01:40am + my 55years and I still can't do a tick in (or out of) a box.
Dave
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but how do you do a tick - it's 01:40am + my 55years and I still can't do a tick in (or out of) a box.
Dave
Can't find one on my keyboard, either. Can't be bothered to look at the character map in system tools, either. Back to a last shot of Grappa and my steaming pit.
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Yes, once you've been told who to hate, life is much simpler.
Having read the Daily Mule, I started disliking everybody I was previously unsure about, and truly detesting everybody that I previously disliked, while turning to the opinion that the Nihilists that in my younger days that I had been taught were a "not good" thing, were, om available empirical evidence, the most valid game in town. {:-{
PS Wullie, there is another comma sign on the same button that does @. Makes reading so much easier :-))
Not on my keyboard Malcolm, my @ is above number 2
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Not on my keyboard Malcolm, my @ is above number 2
They all are, on a standard QERTY keyboard, which am told is the normaly used/supplied keyboard.
So I am none the wiser. {:-{ {:-{
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just press @ and you will get there's instead of there,s
to get the @ displayed just hold down shift and press @
Dave (who can't find a tick) :embarrassed:
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I have no problem getting the @ its above the 2,...as for ticks, my cat gets one or two a week,.....she,s a hunter in the long grass,so its my job to get them off,....i can send you one Dave, {-)
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It's Probably a Scottish made k/board remember nothing up there is compatable with the rest of the UK {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Peter
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There's no tick on a standard QWERTY keyboard. Normally clicking inside a box on an on-line form will produce a tick.
Wullie, to get the apostrophe (') simply press the key with " and ' on it. Having an apostrophe (') instead of a comma (,) does make for easier reading. For example, "Wullie's" is easier to read than "Wullie,s". I hope this helps.
Peter.
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Sounds like wullie has a US keyboard
(http://www.cooltoyzph.com/image/US_Keyboard_layout.jpg)
UK Keyboard layout
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Yep, UK keyboard.
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Sounds like wullie has a US keyboard
(http://www.cooltoyzph.com/image/US_Keyboard_layout.jpg)
Same keyboards as used in Oz, so we need to be careful as we are a world wide forum, so keyboards differ, amucha like da lingo dus %) %) O0 O0
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There's no tick on a standard QWERTY keyboard. Normally clicking inside a box on an on-line form will produce a tick.
Hi Peter, thanks but it's not for on line use. I do loads of work safety related stuff and so cut and paste the ticks. The forms are designed to be ticked with a pen but I email mine so there's no physical storage to do. So I continue to seek the tick .......... do you think I'm just looking for approval? {-)
Hey I never knew we were using different Keyboards .......seems daft.
Dave
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And macs have different keyboards too...
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Just to confuse matters this is what I see when looking at the keyboard
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Mac keyboards also vary according to location
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And the tick doesn't live on the keyboard - it seems you need to go to wingdings2 in the character map, and there it is. Downside is, it only works where the Wingdings 2 font is available, such as the text handling programs on your PC. If the file goes or is being created elsewhere, like, say a web forum, where that font is not available, the system just does the best it can, which is likely to be a capital P in whatever font is being used.
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Ok thanks - just opened the word type program, went wingdings, then insert, then special character and scrolled down. There it was and it went onto the page as a tick.
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so did the child have the wrong key board then ? is that why she was left having a glass off pop for 5 min because the key board was wrong or why are we talking about them in this post {-) {-) {-) {-)
Peter
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I think they call it "getting sidetracked" %% %%
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I don't go to the boozer with my Kids, the last time I did they left me there to pay there tab.
Gerald.
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The Old Days
Who else can remember the BC (before children ) pubs, you know, the ones that DIDN'T allow kiddies in, or those that did, insisted they leave at 9pm ?
The one place where a geezer could, if he was lucky (or single) escape the screaming kids and even louder screaming missus, if only for a couple of hours on a Sunday lunchtime (called DINNER time where I was dragged up !)
Roast taters, cheese cubes, peanuts and pickled onions on the bar, till the EU stopped all that on 'hygiene' grounds ! The raffle that was always accompanied by many shouts of 'FIX' when the winner was announced and a 'proper' dartboard...you know, the type with NO trebles ! the fishing club that organised away matches from time to time and even a savings club for the more spendthrift. The annual trip to 't seaside (strangely enough ALWAYS Cleethorpes) complete with crate of brown on 't back seat o 't sharrer ! And remember the days when the place opened at 12 and closed at 2pm on a Sunday and a 'late lock in' was a once in a blue moon occurrence which was quite often attended by the local "bobby", and, most importantly, loud foul and offensive language was just not allowed, and if after one warning it continued, then out it was !!
There is a pub local to where I live and I have been in there just the once..never again ! I'm afraid that screaming brats hurtling round indoors on bicycles..riding into customers' legs..screaming at a frequency that even a deaf bat could hear..attempting to drag the beer towels off the bar c/w customers' drinks..and in one extreme case, begging money from the customers for the sweety machines. I have to say now that these juvenile terrorists are the landlord's kids, and he let's them treat the pub as a playground, citing the ability to 'keep an eye on 'em' as an excuse. The only problem is that the customers are forced to keep both eyes and ears on 'em.
Sadly, we'll NEVER see the likes of the old fashioned pub again and working mens' clubs are closing with ever increasing frequency, only, as in the town where I am at present, to be turned into a Mosque or Islamic 'school' ( always thought that Muslims hated all contact with alcohol with a vengeance ?) That and the unnecessary use of loud offensive and foul language that is apparently mandatory on both sides of the bar.
Come back Vic Smeed...Dave Platt...Jack Morton and Co. ALL is forgiven.
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Who else can remember the BC (before children ) pubs,
I have heard tell of a time BW O0 (before women), a time when no decent woman would be found in a pub.
I'm too young (55) to know if this is only the wishful thinking of fools, or if indeed the golden age of pubs truly existed?
Dave
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My parents and SWTSMBO had pre-BC pubs and both left before kids were de rigour for patron torment. Trouble was, as we became more aff(eff)luant, the sorties across the channel led us to expect that the continental habit of taking "Little People" out to eateries should be thrust onto our bolt holes in the name of europeanism. The volume and vocabulary of todays "conversation" is the result of a generation raised with earplugs, blasting into the lugs at 20000000db as even sitting beside each other, it's necessary to "Talk" AT A VOLUME THE LOCAL CEMETARY CAN HEAR, this is of course providing you can find hostelries still in trade.
Todays shed like eateries ensure you can't have a quiet yack and thanks to the civil servants, a pint costs as much as the meal and even the background Muzak has been replaced by Murdock's guaranteed money spinner. Todays licensees have to grab what they can when they can from an ever decreasing clientell on increased opening times (Thanks Mr B liar).
Good old days, yes, I remember them well, but they won't return.
Regards Ian.
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It did exist Dave.
At least when I used to live and go out in Sheffield in the early 60's.
Have had many successes of a Friday and Saturday nights there, ( is that politically correct ? as I am prone to upsetting certain fractions).
Whatever the youngsters have done today I, we, have done before, the difference is that it wasn't quite so openly practiced.
BTW I have 8 years on you so should know a lot better than to talk about such things. ok2 ok2.
Mike.
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Cleethorpes aint changed much %% %% %%
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I have heard tell of a time BW O0 (before women), a time when no decent woman would be found in a pub.
I'm too young (55) to know if this is only the wishful thinking of fools, or if indeed the golden age of pubs truly existed?
Dave
I WAS going to touch on the BW aspect but decided discretion IS the better part of valour, so kept schtum !
I wasn't born in South Yorkshire, but grew up there (3 - 16) and my old Mam was wont to say...."any woman what goes in a pub alone is a tart" and perish the thought of a woman entering a pub on Sunday "dinner" !!
Go get the ducking stool Judd !
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and perish the thought of a woman entering a pub on Sunday "dinner" !!
No way me owd cocker, too busy owert stove mekint sunday roast. :-))
Clugthorpes has changed, no more Lobby lud and now you slide on chip fat on concrete flags.
Regards Ian.
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No way me owd cocker, too busy owert stove mekint sunday roast. :-))
Clugthorpes has changed, no more Lobby lud and now you slide on chip fat on concrete flags.
Regards Ian.
Know ferzackerly what you mean cocker !
I wish they had left Cleethorpes as it was in the fifties & sixties. I was so dissapointed when I went and saw that it had all been 'modernised'.
No Wonderland, no little arcades at the bottom of the station approach, no gangs of kids on day trips waiting to go into the chip cafe at the top of the station approach.
No Lobby Lud.... no atmosphere.
RIP them days !
Bill
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Holiday "Chalets" at Humberstone fitties {-) {-) {-) {-) And the dreaded drainage ditches to trap the unwary late returning revellers. We add it tuff. :-))
Regards Ian.
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It's Probably a Scottish made k/board remember nothing up there is compatable with the rest of the UK {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Peter
I did,nt know HP made Scottish boards,I thought it was just broon sauce and PC,s,
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I have heard tell of a time BW O0 (before women), a time when no decent woman would be found in a pub.
I'm too young (55) to know if this is only the wishful thinking of fools, or if indeed the golden age of pubs truly existed?
Dave
Yes it did exist, at least down under, here in OZ, but now they have been overrun by kids >>:-( <*<
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And most CIU clubs had a man only bar - women were allowed in the lounge (some places only at the weekend )
This was not so long ago.
When I worked in Glasgow in the 70s No one was allowed into a pub on Sunday - only hotels were allowed to open.
There was one hotel on my beat that used to have a queue about 200 strong coming up to opening time.
Geoff
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Children are not allowed in Pubs here... No ifs or buts
Women are tolerated lol
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The Tap room in a propper pub was a male sanctuary untill the bra burners of the sixties/seventies demanded their rights. The working mens clubs accelerated the inclusion of "little people" into alehouses as the norm.
We have one in the suburbs of Bradford "Idle Working Mens Club" %%
Regards Ian.
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The Tap room
I've heard of a Stag bar in a pub. I vaguely remember an old siign on a door in the Fiveways .
Dave
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that was at the top end of the bar enter via the small entrance on Priory road , Knew it well it was my dad's local. they have destroyed it now.
Peter
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Any kids brave enough to venture into the New Dock Hotel (the blood tub, Bidston) would have been eaten anyway...even the poliss didn't like going in there unless it was absolutely necessary !