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Title: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
Some years ago i stupidly sold a much loved model of a Loyal Class Fleet Tender which I'd bought already build from a fellow boat builder. From the moment I helped load it into the man's car i instantly regreted selling her  <:(
Luckily I managed to buy a new kit from Model Slipway (2nd to last one!) a year and a half ago and the following pictures are my attempt at a worthy replacement to the one I once owned...
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 10:31:14 PM
Rather crude jig made up for white metal soldering the liferaft supports. Some extra life raft containers I vac-formed as I'd made a poor job of building the included kit versions.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 10:36:22 PM
Started making some scratchbuilt wheelhouse instruments. Ships rowboat taking shape and starting to look the part though more details still to add.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 10:40:58 PM
Satin finish sealer applied to seal the vinyl applied transfers.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 10:50:48 PM
Wheelhouse construction underway....
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 10:56:57 PM
I had the exhaust funnel made out of fibreglass and done away with the kit supplied vac-formed funnel. I plan on installing a heated smoke unit so thought the idea of a fibreglass funnel made more sense!
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 10:59:09 PM
Light dusting of grey primer applied.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 11:01:46 PM
Test fitting and checking for adjustments.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 11:04:08 PM
Other side of wheelhouse.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 11:08:57 PM
Rear upper deck with built liferaft containers being test fitted.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Stavros on June 15, 2012, 11:20:23 PM
Thats a very nice looking boat keep up the excellent work


Dave
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 15, 2012, 11:40:51 PM
Thanks Dave. I hope to post more pictures when I get more time  :-)
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Norseman on June 15, 2012, 11:48:37 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing much more of your build O0

Dave
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 16, 2012, 12:08:51 AM
Thanks Dave. I've done a fair bit more than when these were taken so hope to take some more pictures over the weekend if the rain holds off  :-) And hopefully on a better quality camera too!
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 16, 2012, 09:07:59 AM
Built a light up working radar monitor with a transparency slide graphic. I was all set to fit until I was given some detailed pictures of a Loyal wheelhouse which doesn't have this style of radar monitor...oh well! Isn't it always the case though, you search and search for reference material and find nothing, then as you've gone with what you think should be in there you end up finding (or being given in my case) some super detailed photographic images and start ripping the model to pieces again!
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 16, 2012, 10:42:34 AM

Here's the semi finished rowboat tied down with waterproof cover folded back. I've added a few things like rope and bucket to make things look a little more interesting.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 16, 2012, 10:42:34 AM
And from the opposite side.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 16, 2012, 11:26:43 AM
Front hatch completed.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 16, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
More sections completed (although not completely happy with the colour of the orange/red so plan on repainting)
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 16, 2012, 12:18:03 PM
Incredibly neat work, well done sir!  :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: oldiron on June 16, 2012, 12:41:12 PM
Beautiful crisp clean work. Excellent. Are you going to be weathering this one?

John
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny on June 16, 2012, 01:00:22 PM

Very impressive job you are doing there Voyager. I'm enjoying  'seeing how it's done' properly.

More details please.

ken
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: deadwood on June 16, 2012, 02:03:04 PM
Hi Voyager,


I think your new build of LOYAL MODERATOR is a more than adequate replacement for her sold ancestor.

I am absolutely convinced that your rebuild will be miles better when once finished then the regretted loss.

So no time for regrets anymore. :-))


Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: DickyD on June 16, 2012, 02:18:29 PM
Hi Wayne, doing your usual excellent job, its looking great.

Glad you are back, have missed your builds. :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 16, 2012, 02:29:45 PM
Beautiful crisp clean work. Excellent. Are you going to be weathering this one?

John

Thanks John. Only very subtle weathering, mostly on the winch and anchors but she's staying mostly shipyard fresh.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 16, 2012, 02:33:03 PM
Hi Voyager,


I think your new build of LOYAL MODERATOR is a more than adequate replacement for her sold ancestor.

I am absolutely convinced that your rebuild will be miles better when once finished then the regretted loss.

So no time for regrets anymore. :-))   


It's looking that way so far fingers crossed. At last my tormented mind can take a well earned rest  :-)



Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 16, 2012, 02:41:37 PM
Thanks DickyD, Tug Kenny, and Martin  :-)

I'm especially chuffed with the waterproof boat cover. First time i've ever tried working with this soft plastasine type material (It's a form of plastasine that is a two part mix which doesn't shrink as it hardens). The portholes were from the 'RB' fittings range with resin bolts glued on. The boat oars were from BBQ sticks stained and gloss varnished. The authentic looking rope was from 'Miskin' models.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 17, 2012, 12:06:38 AM
Here's a pic I found of my old Loyal Class Tender that I regretfully sold.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Norseman on June 17, 2012, 01:05:59 AM
That's a nice boat you had there. I really liked your cover - any chance of a link to the product please?

Dave
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 17, 2012, 02:50:42 AM

   http://www.modelslipway.com/
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Norseman on June 17, 2012, 03:08:28 AM
 {-) thanks Martin but I only meant the plasticine type stuff for the cover.

   Oops! sorry!  :embarrassed:  - Martin
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 17, 2012, 03:20:25 PM
The product is called 'Green Stuff' which is available from this company

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/globalLanding.jsp?gotoGWSPage=http%3A//www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp%3FprodId%3Dprod1380024a
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 24, 2012, 11:11:21 AM
A selection of built and painted fittings (lightly weathered)
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 24, 2012, 11:13:17 AM
And another in primer form awaiting final colour.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: derekwarner on June 24, 2012, 11:38:48 AM
Latest snaps display :-)) .....they are so crisp in detail Voyager.....brilliant.....  O0.....Derek
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 24, 2012, 11:55:35 AM
Thanks Derek from Australia  :-)
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Norseman on June 24, 2012, 12:57:49 PM
Thinking about it; I like your half uncovered row boat set so much I'd be happy to have it as a little diorama.
Reminds me of an old TV program title 'Small Objects of Desire' I can't remember any program content - sounds like collectables.

Dave
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 24, 2012, 08:51:44 PM
Don't remember that program??? Was in two minds about having the boat fully covered, pleased now I went with only haf covering  :-) If you get stuck finding a rowboat give me a nod and I'll have a look around in my workshop!
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 30, 2012, 01:49:41 PM
Some more progress...
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Shipmate60 on June 30, 2012, 02:37:02 PM
She is coming along well, you do make a very "crisp" model.
She is looking very good.

Bob
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 30, 2012, 03:07:35 PM
Thanks Bob. I've had my fair share of things going wrong, problems with varnishes etc... Having overcome all that I'm pleased with how the build is going. I take great care in getting things to fit smoothly with all the corners filled with styrene filler and sanded smooth. I airbrush as much as possible, although I do give in to spray cans from time to time.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Shipmate60 on June 30, 2012, 04:24:14 PM
Just a pity she is in grey and black as was in the RMAS (Buff and Black) for 30 yrs!!!

Bob
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 30, 2012, 04:36:21 PM
More lockers etc now fitted as well as a glimps to how the interior is coming along. The Newspaper reads 'Freddy Starr Ate My Hampster'  {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on June 30, 2012, 05:14:07 PM
Front anchor winch finished. Only a few fittings to build and add and this section of the boat will be complete.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: deadwood on June 30, 2012, 11:38:48 PM
Fantastic level of detailing!

Of course, as a German I am not familiar with the reading habits of the RNXS sailors.
So I had to look up the Starr Hamster Story and was amazed to find it also covered in Freddie Starr's Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Starr).
A considerable amount of his fame must stem from this story.
I wonder if "I ate that hamster" was a kind of a running gag in the Royal Navy referring to the humble culinary skills of the cabooses on board her Majesty's ships?

Did you reduce a copy of the original SUN issue?
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 01, 2012, 02:46:22 PM
A good friend of mine did me the miniature copy of The Sun, not sure how he did it though? He also worked on my waterslide custom decals and ocean maps.

Last night and this morning I made up the three watertight doors (Sprayed with Tamiya Fine Primer Grey)
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: davejay on July 01, 2012, 05:57:22 PM
Hi there, your loyal is looking fantastic, I too have a similar regret to yours, I was asked by a guy that I used to work with when I was on the railways to build one for him as he had purchased the kit and was a little daunted by it, he thought I could do a better job than him, I wasn't so sure but agreed anyway!!! (got renumerated pretty well for it)....As it went the build was superb, a real pleasure and something to be proud of. It was my only build since the lesro thing I built some years previous and now I'm on the build again with my 43ft RSL (back to wood again).....I will return to grp and plastic again one day once my present model is finished (ish!!!). I would love to build a loyal again but it seems to have disappeared from radar screen.....maybe Lawrie (the ever so helpful man at the model slipway) will re-introduce it again sometime soon (hint hint!!!!!)
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 04, 2012, 08:23:05 PM
I was lucky, I managed to buy the second to last one from them...phew  :-)

Here's a selection of waterslide transfers a good friend of mine did for me to go on my Loyal Class tender....
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: deadwood on July 05, 2012, 07:01:51 AM
These decals are awesome!
(I know that "decal" probably is the wrong term but I lack the correct English vocabulary. Are they of the type you need to rub on the surface with a e.g. pen or blunt piece of metal?)
(edit: ah sorry, just reread your caption to the images in your post where you wrote "waterslide", then decal is maybe correct.)
What would your friend require as a master piece to produce them?
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: essex2visuvesi on July 05, 2012, 07:46:36 AM
These decals are awesome!
(I know that "decal" probably is the wrong term but I lack the correct English vocabulary. Are they of the type you need to rub on the surface with a e.g. pen or blunt piece of metal?)
(edit: ah sorry, just reread your caption to the images in your post where you wrote "waterslide", then decal is maybe correct.)
What would your friend require as a master piece to produce them?


If you have an inkjet printer, and some matt varnish you can make your own very easily
The paper price is very reasonable too
http://www.craftycomputerpaper.co.uk/.Inkjet-Water-Slide-Decal-Paper_151.htm

If you dont fancy doing them yourself drop me a PM and I can probably knock you off a few
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: sailorboy61 on July 05, 2012, 12:58:44 PM
If you have an inkjet printer, and some matt varnish you can make your own very easily
The paper price is very reasonable too
http://www.craftycomputerpaper.co.uk/.Inkjet-Water-Slide-Decal-Paper_151.htm

If you dont fancy doing them yourself drop me a PM and I can probably knock you off a few

Wouldn't mind a set of them myself to finish off my boat nicely..... looks like you and friend are in business!!  :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 10, 2012, 05:41:21 PM
Window shutters made (All 7 of them) and two tone painted. Rope ladder also in the making.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 10, 2012, 05:45:58 PM
Some scratch built wheelhouse electronics awaitiing installation (another words to be glued in place  {-) )
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 10, 2012, 05:53:07 PM
Some random close-up details....
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 10, 2012, 05:56:18 PM
That's spectacularly good finish to that hull.   :o
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 10, 2012, 08:23:22 PM
That's spectacularly good finish to that hull.   :o

Cheers martin  :-) It almost looks as though it's been done in Photo-Shop lol (which it hasn't by the way for anyone now wondering!)
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 11, 2012, 06:19:34 PM
I have been adding some wheelhouse details to help make things look a bit more realistic. My friend made a wall clock graphic (I made the clock frame from scrap plasti-card. He also made a wall calendar with the year 1975 (the year I was born). Pictured are some other electronic fittings under construction. To the left you can just make out a head rest of a seat.
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Norseman on July 11, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
... and twice a day you can say it's showing the correct time  O0
Nice detailing.

Dave
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 12, 2012, 06:28:07 PM
How very true lol. Not exactly Rolex precision  %%
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: gingyer on July 13, 2012, 12:25:21 PM
This is a superb build.
I have just acquired an unbuilt kit and was going to
Do it as RMAS Cricklade.

So will be watching with interest might even have to steal a few ideas  :-))  %) %)

Colin
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Norseman on July 13, 2012, 03:54:34 PM
Cricklade's nameplate has got me wondering who built Loyal Moderator?

(http://s13.postimage.org/sdjfjhjgz/Cricklade_Nameplate.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/sdjfjhjgz/)

Dave
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 13, 2012, 09:53:42 PM
Thanks for the kind words  :-) I have plenty of reference pics if you should need them?
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 13, 2012, 09:55:24 PM
Cricklade's nameplate has got me wondering who built Loyal Moderator?

(http://s13.postimage.org/sdjfjhjgz/Cricklade_Nameplate.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/sdjfjhjgz/)

Dave


Well the only thing i can make out is 'Hull 1970'???
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Norseman on July 13, 2012, 10:04:31 PM
Just click on it and it opens up fine - but even unopened I can read it?
I wonder why you don't see it?

Charles D Holmes & Co Ltd
Shipbuilders & Engineers
Cricklade
HULL 1970

Dave
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: justboatonic on July 13, 2012, 10:16:41 PM
Er, superb!  :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 13, 2012, 10:20:26 PM
Probably limitations with my smartphone screen resolution.

Thanks for posting it Dave  :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on July 14, 2012, 12:56:30 AM
Probably limitations with my smartphone screen resolution.

Thanks for posting it Dave  :-))

??????????????????????????? :o :o %) %)
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 14, 2012, 07:11:56 PM
??????????????????????????? :o :o %) %)

YEP!!!...Was indeed my smartphone as now I'm on my PC I can read it as clear as anything  O0
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Norseman on July 14, 2012, 09:44:01 PM
You can cancel Specsavers then, but do you know who built Loyal Moderator?

Dave
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Voyager on July 14, 2012, 10:13:17 PM
Lol yeah i'll cancel my eye test then  ;D

No idea who built her, NO!!! There must some info out there on the web?
Title: Re: Loyal Class Tender New Build
Post by: Tim B. on August 29, 2012, 01:41:54 PM
What a Great build !

You subtle weathering teqnique is an inspiration.

So unfortunate Model Slipways has stopped the production of this outstanding model.