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Title: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 05, 2012, 09:09:05 pm
Today was a momentous one at Budgie Towers, in that work started in earnest on my new workshop O0, the dimensions of which will be 20' x 9'.
The first pics show the area were it will built and the rest at various timing during the day. I will update day by day until completion, which should be in about ten (working) days time depending on the weather, so tomorrow looks like it will be rained off for a kick off {:-{ {:-{.

LB

Day 0, and a bit.
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 05, 2012, 09:11:19 pm
Day 1.
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Post by: irishcarguy on July 06, 2012, 03:15:22 am
Looks to me that the back yard needed help, could you not enlist the help of one of the TV gurus to build you a nice workshop by pleading lack of funds & a bad heart. You should be careful though, you never know what is hiding in the forest back there. Mick B.
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: TailUK on July 06, 2012, 08:25:55 am
Looks to me that the back yard needed help, could you not enlist the help of one of the TV gurus to build you a nice workshop by pleading lack of funds & a bad heart. You should be careful though, you never know what is hiding in the forest back there. Mick B.

If you look carefully in the last photo you can just make out a Japanese sniper.
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: essex2visuvesi on July 06, 2012, 09:22:42 am
If you look carefully in the last photo you can just make out a Japanese sniper.

Actually there's 2
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Post by: Arrow5 on July 06, 2012, 09:25:20 am
Tell the Beeb that you found bits of medieval pottery lying around and Baldrick and the Time Team will be round for three days and do a dig for you ! O0
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Post by: Dave13 on July 06, 2012, 09:29:27 am
LOL Good Luck going into the jungle  :-))
Dave:)
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Post by: essex2visuvesi on July 06, 2012, 09:35:03 am
All joking aside... maybe the budgie likes it that way
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Post by: john44 on July 06, 2012, 09:45:29 am
Actually there's 2

No sorry you are all wrong, its Silvester Stallone and cast filming on set of his next Rambo film {-)

john
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Post by: richald on July 06, 2012, 11:35:14 am
This is what I noticed in one of the earlier photos....

Richard
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: TailUK on July 06, 2012, 11:38:01 am
This is what I noticed in one of the earlier photos....

Richard


I knew there was something odd about that picture......... it's sunny!
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Norseman on July 06, 2012, 11:49:24 am
I knew there was something odd about that picture......... it's sunny!

That's because Liverbudgie generally has a very sunny dis position :-))
Good luck with it all LB and mind your backs too O0

Dave
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 06, 2012, 02:25:54 pm
Day 2 - Cancelled due to inclement weather, currently 2 tons of hardcore sitting in sacks on the front path, have also decided to move the the workshop further back as it may be too close to proposed further building work for my liking.

Re state of the garden, this due to not having green fingers, severe hay fever during summer months and to honest preferring to build model ships, taking photographs of a maritime nature as well as other interesting subjects World wide. However, this should change over the next year or so when the reconstruction is complete and a professional gardener is engaged to do all the hard work. The garage BTW is home to my TR6 and a 1957 Moggie 1000 (anyone want a Moggie to restore?)

Now off to Scotland and then back down to Windermere tomorrow for their little do.

LB
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: irishcarguy on July 07, 2012, 08:32:48 am
Its amazing how you guys use the weather to get out of working, LOL. I think you will have a very nice shop when you finish. It will make it much easier to build your models, keep us up to date with the progress. I am thinking of putting a shed in the back yard for my lathe & the milling machine I have been thinking of buying for some time. The lathe is in my garage workshop at present but that is 11km out of the city. Mick B.
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 11, 2012, 11:21:26 pm
Day 3 - Of actual work, delay caused by contractor being of the opinion that it was going to be wet on Monday and Tuesday - it was actually bone dry on both days for a change. Also has been moved back 3';  this appears to have caused some confusion initially as it was interpreted as being that I wanted the shed/workshop to be that much longer, neither did I expected that it would take two men with two shovels and one wheelbarrow between them to three quarter fill an eight yard skip in a day - not that they were shirking and taking breaks, or appeared not to anyway. I have been assured though that the area will be cleared by tommorrow and the hardcore and shuttering will be in place by the end of the day ready for the concrete on Friday, so long as it doesn't rain of course.

LB
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 16, 2012, 08:51:08 pm
Day 4 & 5. Digging out completed and hardcore laid - I don't think I've seen two men work so hard and achieve so little in three days, reminded me so much of Vauxhalls in the '70's, that was last Thursday (12th July). Contrator arrrived later in day to inspect and told me that the concrete would not be available until Monday - today - and that they would put shuttering up then.

Monday morning, raining yet again, had serious doubts as to whether they would turn up but, they did, rain became heavier. The had some problems in getting the levels correct. Though the area looked to reasonably level overall, this was in fact an optical illusion caused by the back wall sloping left to right in the pictures, concrete was delayed until they had sorted it out. Concrete wagon arrived at lunch time, the concrete is all mixed in the wagon and load into wheelbarrows in a matter of seconds, amazing, considering what it used to like when it dumped in the road and it a race against time to get into place before it set. All done in about 40 minutes and off they went, rain also stopped as they left, have to wait as the slab dries. I doubt very much if there will be anymore work done this week as the forecast is for more rain, especially on Wednesday but, we shall play it by ear and see what happens.

LB

Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 16, 2012, 08:53:05 pm
More
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Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 16, 2012, 08:56:15 pm
Even more.
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: dreadnought72 on July 16, 2012, 09:21:32 pm
Don't know about the rest of us following this thread, but - even with a concrete base in - I'm wild jealous already!  :}

Andy
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: essex2visuvesi on July 17, 2012, 05:42:41 am
you should cover that with some polythene sheets or something for a few days if heavy rain is forecast.... will help it set quicker
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: tt1 on July 17, 2012, 11:00:23 am
Once the binding reaction has started, keeping it wet even under water the slower it sets and the slower it sets the stronger the slab will be.
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Post by: sailorboy61 on July 17, 2012, 11:15:42 am
Don't know about the rest of us following this thread, but - even with a concrete base in - I'm wild jealous already!  :}

Andy

Not at all jealous.................................... >:-o

I've got one just like this, used to be called the dining room apparently!
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Rottweiler on July 17, 2012, 02:11:48 pm
of course priority must be given to shed, but I really would suggest you do the remedial work on the wall while you can get at it easily,after all you dont want it collapsing on your new build!
Mick F
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 17, 2012, 08:28:56 pm
Yes that aspect has concerned me but, as it is a party wall, I think anyway can't be sure until I've seen the deeds again, and it backs on to three other properties, there is little I can do at present. Should it need to demolished and rebuilt with brick that would cost in the region of £25k+. The ground on their side is also quite a bit higher as well and is planted with many shrubs and bushes, which does not help either.

That being the case I decreed that there must be a gap wide enough for a man to get down between the wall and the back of the workshop should needs be; the contractor also need room to get down there to do the cladding anyway. As far as I'm concerned should there be any major work be needed then it can be demolished from my neighbours side and replaced with a fence.

However, it has stood for over 120 years and survived the blitz, the two houses behind me were flattened by a bomb, in 1941/42; though leaning walls and subsidence are beginning to show themselves in the area, all down to the whole area slowly sliding it to the Mersey apparently, or so my council surveyor friend tells me.

LB

Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: essex2visuvesi on July 18, 2012, 05:33:57 am
all down to the whole area slowly sliding it to the Mersey apparently, or so my council surveyor friend tells me.

LB



Just think tho in a few years your will have a river front property.... and of course that will certainly add value :)
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: dodgy geezer on July 18, 2012, 09:02:10 am
Is it going to be a pre-frab shed, or are you going to build your own design?
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 18, 2012, 09:31:50 am
It will be to my own design.

LB
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: dodgy geezer on July 18, 2012, 09:39:49 am
Are you going to do a 'dwarf wall', a couple of rows of brick at the bottom? That's what I did - really handy in wet conditions....
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 26, 2012, 08:28:19 pm
Day 6 - actually 21 days since work began.

This project was scheduled to begin in mid August. However, the contractor called me to say that he had a window had appeared in his workload and could he bring the project forward, of course I did not object to that. However, as those of us who abode in the UK know only too well the early part of July was the wettest on record, records start in 1910 btw not 1710 or 1610 or even 1210 note. It certainly was pretty wet though, and the worse since the last one oh, when was than now? Four years ago I think. But nowhere near as bad as Queenslanders experience I should add.
This has resulted in the contractor coming up against a rapidly closing window. He ask if instead of him doing the woodwork if I was agreeable to him getting another company to do the work and erect the workshop, cost would just the same and workmanship and materials would be to the same standard as his. I have agreed to this but, it will now take an extra three weeks to erect, holidays this time. The original contractor will still finish off the project i.e. electrics, plastering etc.
Having said all this though, the retaining wall has been built today and a good job has been made of it as far as I can tell anyway. There was one problem though, in that the bricky started at the back garden wall and squared everything up on that. However, when he came to start on the opposite side it was found the that wall would have come across the slab by a fair distance thus reducing the required room for the workshop. Eventually after some thought it was decided build the far wall slightly off square and so maintain a reasonably straight line in relation the edge of the slab. Personally, and if it had been me doing the wall, I would have started on the left hand side and made that corner square and worked along to the back wall but, hey ho what do I know, I'm not a bricky with sixteen years experience.

At the present rate the next up date will be in a couple of weeks or so. <*< <*<
LB
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 26, 2012, 08:29:54 pm
Some more
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Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 26, 2012, 08:37:08 pm
An afternoon sojourn and some of my handy work, Literally :embarrassed:
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Post by: john44 on July 26, 2012, 09:25:01 pm
What about cavity wall insulation %)
looking good :-))
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 26, 2012, 09:29:10 pm

I agree but thought you had a space premium.

ken

Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 26, 2012, 10:13:38 pm
What about cavity wall insulation %)
looking good :-))

John,

The wall that you see here is a retaining wall to prevent the soil from sliding down and is not part ot the workshop itself.

Ken,

You have got me worried now as the distance between the two walls is 10' 10", I think that this is to narrow taking into consideration the workshop is supposed to be 9' wide with a gap between the rear wall and the garden wall large enough for someone to get down. I'll contact the builder in the morning and see what he has to say about
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 27, 2012, 10:50:00 am
John,

The wall that you see here is a retaining wall to prevent the soil from sliding down and is not part ot the workshop itself.

Ken,

You have got me worried now as the distance between the two walls is 10' 10", I think that this is to narrow taking into consideration the workshop is supposed to be 9' wide with a gap between the rear wall and the garden wall large enough for someone to get down. I'll contact the builder in the morning and see what he has to say about


Morning Liverbudgie,

Why would you want to  'Get down'  the gap ?  A bit of waste of precious space there, methinks.  My first impression is to build as big as you can get away with.  I actually built mine as a 'lean too' against the house.  It saves on concrete blocks as well.

Just a thought.   :}

regards

ken
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on July 27, 2012, 11:38:14 am
The reason I wanted a gap between the back wall of the workshop and the garden wall was so that I could do any maintenance required to the back wall of the workshop should it be necessary and if problems arose with the state of the garden wall.  I did at one stage think about it being a "lean to" but I was concerned about the state of the wall and damp but perhaps I'm being over cautious. The builder also stated that he needed room to get between the walls as well otherwise he would not be able to clad the outer wall of the workshop.

As things stand now there will be only 11" clearance between each wall @ 9' width, this I'm not happy with; length ways there is no problem.

I've just checked the measurements again and I feel there is a bit of a problem - a 4" or thereabouts one, I await developments ...............

LB
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: TheLongBuild on July 27, 2012, 01:29:26 pm
Won't you get damp through the floor as I can see no membraine put down ?.
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 10, 2012, 09:02:48 pm


How are you getting on.  ?

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Post by: Norseman on September 10, 2012, 11:11:06 pm
Hoping the answer to that is ...... Spectacularly!!!
I am ever the optimist LB  :}

Dave
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on September 15, 2012, 06:46:27 pm
I have only just picked this up.

Yes well, there have been a few delays much to ones' chagrin. The first one was when the contractor I had first engaged to do the work had to pass the building of the workshop over to another company, due to pressure of work and the bad weather we were all landed with. Holidays then entered the picture, once this obstacle was cleared and when they were ready to start the building process proper the local scallie's played their hand by deciding that they had a better use for their tools and van than the company did. this took place at around 4am one Friday.

A person living opposite apparently thought it odd that work was being undertaken at such an hour and placed a call with Mr Plod, who attended the premises in haste and thereby apprehended said scallie's loading the company's transport with their own tools. (yay, Merseyside Police, Birkenhead division - for once!! :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))) Said scallie's were not the most intelligent of the variety, their abode being about 300 yards from the scene of their mischief, were further evidence of their misdemeanours were discovered.

I only found out about this the following morning when I went to check on progress, only to find chaos as you expect. Further delay was now inevitable as Mr Plod, in his eternal wisdom, decided that they needed to hold on the company's tools, they were returned some days later. However, they had, inadvertently no doubt ok2, left a sheet of paper attached to the tool case's which give the details of the aforementioned scallie's; as of yesterday morning the company has still not had their transport returned.

This of course has caused a blockage in the system with some of their customers not being very patient however, I understand these things - up to a point. Work recommenced about three weeks ago and I was promised that it would be in place by the end of that week and that if it wasn't then they would work the Saturday. I was away then on business and returned in high expectation that I would have a lovely new workshop to play around in - I was to be disappointed. This resulted in a serious discussion with whoever was in the office that Saturday as to why there wasn't a brand new workshop in situ.

I was again away last week and again I was again disappointed on my return. None to impressed by now, I paid a visit to their premises to find that one's workshop was about 75% complete; only the hold up now was that the Velux window that had been ordered (I had instructed that the largest horizontal one be fitted) was too large to fit in-between the roof trusses and there would not be enough room to fit the flashing properly. Quite why there had been no liaison over this will no doubt come out in the wash later. A smaller one had been ordered (without reference to me) but had not arrived  at that stage. The stable door has been completed by an outside chippie, who is also responsible for the windows. He has made a fine job of these I have to say. So there we are, delivery is promised, again, for later this week  and I'm away once more, the saga continues......
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 15, 2012, 09:25:27 pm




Oh my.      :police:


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Post by: pettyofficernick on September 16, 2012, 12:23:39 am
Sounds about right for these parts on all counts, scallies, seemingly incompetent builders etc etc...... :police:
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Post by: irishcarguy on September 16, 2012, 05:22:53 am
Hi Liver that is one fine bit of restrained writing but where is the picture of the non complete & the window, & when is the ceremonial burning of the Scallies property or is that not considered necessary & fun where you live. I think you need new neighbours. Mick B.
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Post by: Norseman on September 16, 2012, 09:50:03 am
Once you get in there it will all be behind you LB.
You are going to alarm your shop re local scallies?
Dave
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: dodgy geezer on September 16, 2012, 10:32:07 am
How about a photo of where it is now?   :}
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Post by: Liverbudgie2 on September 16, 2012, 01:28:46 pm
Said Scallie's will, I have no doubt be dealt with in due course, both by the court probably with a smack on the bum and "community service", this will be followed later with a smack in the gob and a fair few contacts between steel toe cap and soft, dangly tissue.

Ceremonial burning is perhaps is perhaps taking things to far, but perhaps not on refection.  O0 There is a fir distance between the present location of the part built workshop and where I live. I don't have any problems with my neighbours bar one, who knows better than to cross me.

Yes the workshop will be alarmed this is in addition to a new fence being erected between the house and side garden wall, this alone has been estimated at £700.

This was one of the few occasions that I went out without the camera so there are no pictures of it in its current location I'm afraid, so you will all just have to be like me - patience.

LB, The Key Board Warrior.
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on September 20, 2012, 08:30:33 pm
Today i received a text from a rather alarmed neighbour stating that there were three large men who were putting a shed of some sort up in my garden, a flat bed wagon and a four by four. it was two hours later when i read the message as i was in a screened  building which stops mobile signals from getting through. I reassured her that i was expecting it, having failed to tell her that i was.

So it looks like i have a workshop at long last. my team and I have twenty computers to install in the morning and then it's time for home at a rapid pace.

LB - in Dundee.
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Post by: Liverbudgie2 on September 22, 2012, 11:51:17 pm
It was the odour of creosote that wafted  towards me as exited the car on my return home on Friday afternoon that really told me that the new workshop had been delivered and erected - finally.

Overall I'm pleased with the build quality however, there is one major thing I'm displeased about and that is the size and shape of the Velux window. I had originally specified that it was to be the largest horizontal one in the range, instead the smallest vertical model has been fitted.  It was erected of course while I was away and if they think that they can just present me with a fait a comply (sp) ? like that then I'm afraid they can think again.

It has yet to be finished off inside i.e. the insulation has yet to be fitted and the interior plastered as well as the electrics. I have not paid them, apart from the deposit, either  so until a solution is reached that's how it's going to remain.

LB -The Key Board Warrior.
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: pettyofficernick on September 22, 2012, 11:56:51 pm
That Velux is a little on the small size, make em change it. Do you have it in writing that they were going to fit a big one? Looking good all the same....

Regards,
Nick
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Post by: derekwarner on September 23, 2012, 03:31:50 am
I do like the Liverbudgie .........very smart indeed ...... :-)) .....just watch out for the neighbours.....they may take a heritage order out on your herringbone panelled door building..... {-) Derek
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Post by: tt1 on September 23, 2012, 03:30:32 pm
Very smart Jon, like the stable door - excellent idea. Are they fitting guttering? especially along the back between the workshop and dividing wall, just thinking how much water may end up sitting under the workshop floor.

             Without payment I'm sure you'll eventually get exactly what you ordered. Regards, Tony.
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Post by: dodgy geezer on September 23, 2012, 04:47:47 pm
Great minds think alike! My workshop also has a pitched roof, T+G walls, a stable door on one wall and an end door at one end. No Velux, though...  <:(
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Post by: Norseman on September 24, 2012, 01:20:09 am
Hi LB

Is your wooden workshop sitting directly on that exposed concrete base? I am just thinking about water causing you some big problems later if it is.
Sorry if that sounds a bit negative LB.

Dave
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Post by: Circlip on September 24, 2012, 02:10:18 pm
LHS and rear wall maintainence might be a problem, roof pitched from back to front and sheeted with ribbed Aluminininium roof panels would have meant a single guttering to clean out of leaves (DAMHIK) on the easy side of the roof, and a more stable covering.

   Hindsight is always a great teacher.

  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on September 24, 2012, 08:44:25 pm
Is your wooden workshop sitting directly on that exposed concrete base? I am just thinking about water causing you some big problems later if it is.
It siting on tanlised (SP) supports which I'm assured is perfectly OK by numerous people.

LHS and rear wall maintainence might be a problem, roof pitched from back to front and sheeted with ribbed Aluminininium roof panels would have meant a single guttering to clean out of leaves (DAMHIK) on the easy side of the roof, and a more stable covering.

   Hindsight is always a great teacher.

Indeed, as is cost and noise when it rains.

LB, proud to be the key board warrior.
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Post by: Stormbringer on September 24, 2012, 11:14:17 pm
how big is it ?
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Post by: Norseman on September 25, 2012, 08:19:06 am
So what will the first model build be LB?

Dave
Title: Re: New workshop at Budgie Towers.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on September 25, 2012, 05:24:29 pm
how big is it ?

20' x 9' x 8' high.

So what will the first model build be LB?

It is planned to be the Stentor (1926) followed by Machaon (1959) @1/72, then HMS Caroline @ 1/48. However there are a number of others that need to be completed namely HMS Badsworth (Sirmar Hunt) and  SCHAARHÖRN @1/25. www.schaarhoern.de/english.php

LB, Still immensely proud to be a keyboard warrior
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Post by: pettyofficernick on September 25, 2012, 05:52:35 pm
So, it's keyboards at dawn is it....? :-) :-)
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Post by: Norseman on November 19, 2012, 09:34:16 pm
Hi LB
 
Is your new workshop all up and running now?
 
Dave