Model Boat Mayhem

Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: mickyrubble on August 30, 2012, 08:35:18 pm

Title: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: mickyrubble on August 30, 2012, 08:35:18 pm
Hi,
 I see that Augostini have a new part work "Sovereign of the Sea.Looks nice but not for me (haven't finished Bismarck yet and then still have to start HMS Hood).Who on Mayhem will bite the bullet..
Mickyrubble
 :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: Yarpie on August 30, 2012, 08:51:36 pm
I think I would rather be SHOT by a bullet. %)
Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: Neil on August 30, 2012, 08:55:43 pm
rather stick needles in my eyes, especially when Sergal and Mantua will sell me one for less.......and better quality.
Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: Circlip on August 30, 2012, 09:07:14 pm
Let Tug-Kenny know, it's a kit and only just over 800 quid  :-))  %)  Bargain

  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 30, 2012, 09:10:23 pm


Not many  'Quids'  left these days.    :P


Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: Neil on August 30, 2012, 10:17:05 pm
even Kenny can't afford this one ......£1206.65p for the full 135 parts.....mind you you do get 5 free gifts along the way, %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %%
Title: HMS Sovereign of the seas
Post by: Stavros on August 31, 2012, 04:55:56 pm
Now Deagostini have now started this one TBH I was really shocked at what this model will have cost at the end 139 issuses at £5.99 equals a total of £832.61 sorry to say this but who on earth can afford this much for a static model and I personally wonder how many will actually be finished to shuch a standard that they will be worth anything at the end.


Dave
Title: Re: HMS Sovereign of the seas
Post by: mikearace on August 31, 2012, 05:06:04 pm
I personally wonder how many will actually be finished to shuch a standard that they will be worth anything at the end.


Dave

Thats assuming D'agostini actually run the series through to its end and dont pull it a quarter or half way.
Title: Re: HMS Sovereign of the seas
Post by: Neil on August 31, 2012, 07:07:21 pm
Now Deagostini have now started this one TBH I was really shocked at what this model will have cost at the end 139 issuses at £5.99 equals a total of £832.61 sorry to say this but who on earth can afford this much for a static model and I personally wonder how many will actually be finished to shuch a standard that they will be worth anything at the end.


Dave

I thought it was £8.99 an edition Dave.......making it a collosal 1260 quid.........
Title: Re: HMS Sovereign of the seas
Post by: Stavros on August 31, 2012, 07:36:14 pm
Well If it is then I will stand corrected and if it is then it is defo a RIP OFF


Dave
Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: Yarpie on August 31, 2012, 08:06:40 pm
Two threads now running on this subject.

Guess what?

Both are in agreement. O0

Yarpie.


Now merged together.   ken

Title: Re: HMS Sovereign of the seas
Post by: Neil on August 31, 2012, 09:58:40 pm
Well If it is then I will stand corrected and if it is then it is defo a RIP OFF


Dave

sorry mate..........I should have gone to Specksavers......£5.99 it is...................still wouldn't buy it, lol
Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: Yarpie on September 01, 2012, 05:29:38 pm
Notwithstanding anything else, one would think that the designers and publishers of this partwork would have done their homework properly on the subject.

HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS does not ring true. The earliest example of the abbreviation being used is in 1789 when it was used for"HMS Phoenix", well over one hundred years later.

Way before this, prior to 1660, warships were referred to by their full title, The Kings'/Queen's ship and not as His/Her Majesty's Ship, which latter title then followed until the late eighteenth century.

When SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS emerged from extended refit in 1660, she was then renamed  His/Her Majesty's Ship ROYAL SOVEREIGN and not as "HMS". So therefore, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS never was "HMS" nor possibly even His/Her Majesty's Ship.

This may seem a trifle pedantic, but it is part of Naval history. :embarrassed:

Forgive if I'm wrong and please debate.

Yarpie.(da anorak). %)

Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: dave301bounty on September 01, 2012, 07:16:58 pm
Many years ago ,,,,think airfix did a kit ,and it was just Sover, of the seas . cant spell , that was a nice kit ,this is a bit more splended and costly ,,not for me ,I too am only so far on the Hood ,have a compleat kit on two others so   ? Yarpie nice to hear you my buddy in Cape town was asking about you .
Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: Yarpie on September 01, 2012, 07:21:54 pm
Thanks Dave, I'm fine. :-))

Still my old cynical self as you can see. :D

Yarpie.
Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: phil_parker on September 05, 2012, 12:53:42 pm
Every time a partwork is mentioned the same old arguments are trotted out.

Cost - It's spread over 2 years so a lot cheaper than 2 pints a week or a packet of fags. Plenty of people manage to afford those. As for "Will it be worth it at the end", well if you are looking for an investment, no it won't. If you build it for fun and enjoy it then it's cheap(ish) entertainment.

Won't finish - Got all the Bismark and half a Hood. Some of these do die after a few issues but lots don't.

Could buy a kit cheaper - Probably could but they won't come with the extensive instructions.

Quality - If it's as good as the Bismark then I wouldn't worry. The etched parts on that are incredibly good. Of course, things could always be better and even with Bismark there are too many cock-ups but we aren't talking some dodgy Chinese ready-built model.

Will I be buying one ? Nope. Too large. Too static. Too much of a dust gatherer. Too fragile. I don't need the instructions so I'll save my money.

I always wonder why they pick the prototypes they do ? I could be up for a tug boat series designed for RC. Instead of doing 1 boat over 135 issues, do three. I bet plenty of people would stay the course for those.
Title: Re: HMS SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS
Post by: Circlip on September 05, 2012, 02:11:08 pm
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Now Deagostini have now started this one TBH I was really shocked at what this model will have cost at the end 139 issuses at £5.99 equals a total of £832.61


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sorry mate..........I should have gone to Specksavers......


  134 issues X £5.99  = £802.66  Plus £1.99 for first issue  = £804.65  a bargain.

  Something about speksavers?

  Regards  Ian.