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Title: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 01, 2012, 08:18:34 AM
As I don't have enough unfinished projects on the go  %) I've started another project that's been in the back of my mind for a while.
A good friend of mine recently gave me some photos he took about 20 years ago when we were members of the West Australian Model Boat Club, they were of a competition day at a place called Kardinya
and there was my old comp boat, it was a little balsa tugboat called Preston built from a kit, actually it was the first boat I built.
Seeing the photos reminded me of the fact that I still had all the plans and had always wanted to build another one so I have dug out the plans scaled it up from 540mm to 1:12 scale which works out at about a metre.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Norseman on September 01, 2012, 10:05:12 AM
I'll take my usual seat with you Mermod - it must be nice to be redoing your first boat :}
Are you on any of those old pictures? Pop one up O0

Dave
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 01, 2012, 11:16:05 AM
Nice to have you along Norseman, I'll try and make this a quick build, would like to have it ready for a display we do on Australia day, the photos are pretty scary, boy was I nerdy, didn't know the photos existed and always regretted not having any pics of our comp days, pre digital camera age.
A bit of a tinge of sadness aswell, atleast 1/2 of the people in the yellow club shirts have passed away and the young bloke leaning into the back of the blue hatchback is my younger brother that I haven,t seen since leaving Western Australia 17 years ago.
Friends and family may come and go but model boats are forever.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 01, 2012, 11:20:20 AM
by the way, I'm standing next to the guy in the shorts in the second photo
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 02, 2012, 03:23:00 AM
Frames and keel transferred to CAD , then laser cut and set up with the first pair of stringers in place (tasmanian oak)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 02, 2012, 03:35:33 AM
lower stringers added
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 24, 2012, 09:31:23 AM
due to some camera issues I've missed a couple of steps but here's the latest pics.
Hull sheathed in balsa and sanded smooth and a layer of Bote Cote epoxy with some fine glass cloth.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 29, 2012, 07:54:10 AM
got a bit more done today, the belt around the hull at deck level for the rubber strip to sit on.
now time for a coat of primer.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: tugboyben on September 29, 2012, 08:11:17 AM
Morning mermod
Great work
Am going to tag along if that's OK  :-)
Is the tug twin or single prop

Jason
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 29, 2012, 08:19:04 AM
Hi tugboyben, she's only single screw I think it works out a about 75mm 4 blade
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on September 29, 2012, 01:20:23 PM
 
 That thing looks Strong!    :-))
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Norseman on September 29, 2012, 01:35:06 PM
Is it just for you Mermod? ...... or might it become a kit?

Dave
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 29, 2012, 01:58:47 PM
Hi norseman, as it was originally a kit in the 90s I think I might receive a nasty letter from a lawer somewhere if I did that, they used to be sold by the Freedom Song Boatworks but hasnt been listed on their site for many years now, might do hulls only though
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: irishcarguy on September 29, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
Hi Mermod, your work as always is first class. I am always interested in the builds you have going because of your attention to detail & quality of the finished product. You could talk to the previous kit makers & find out if they would object to you making a kit or buying the rights from them. Thanks again for sharing, always nice to see first class workmanship, Mick B.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 30, 2012, 12:24:37 AM
Hi Mick, thanks for the kind words, just might have to fire off an email and see what happens.
Irishcarguy, thanks for the PM, the picture comes up straight away but thats it, no mention of the kit anywhere that I can find.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 30, 2012, 06:58:42 AM
Todays progress, a coat of primer, some spot putty and the waterline check measured, might score the line lightly so it shows up in the mould.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 23, 2012, 10:04:30 AM
a coat of paint on the plug, now ready for moulding, might take a while with a new baby in the house, couldnt get any better photos as it was still wet off the gun.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: tugboyben on October 23, 2012, 10:49:01 AM
Look good mermod

Congratulations on your new baby

Jason
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 24, 2012, 11:02:16 AM
Thanks Jason, It's amazing how much modelling can be done with so little sleep
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on November 02, 2012, 11:21:29 AM
Decided to put one more coat of 2 pack on, high gloss this time. Also cut out a template for the cap rail.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Footski on November 02, 2012, 12:02:54 PM
Beautiful work.. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: tugboyben on March 23, 2013, 07:03:52 AM
Morning mermod
How is the preston tug build doing  :-)


Jason
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on March 23, 2013, 07:46:26 AM
Hi Jason, I ran out of time on this one, wanted to have it ready for a particular display day but didnt make it, the plug is currently hanging fron the workshop ceiling waiting to be molded, I kinda started a few other projects since then but a s soon as I get another batch of polyester resin I will be back into it.
 
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: big bill on November 02, 2013, 11:39:08 PM
gday ,
 i built the same/similar tug , under a different name ,USA plan , and the hull is loverly , but the screw is too small ,at 55mm +4 blade , and underpowered ,it needs a 75mm prop ,or twin screws .
im goint to try a different motor , as now low rev , low power draw type ,will try decerperm or brushless w g/box ,no time yet
regards bill s
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on November 03, 2013, 07:07:07 AM
Cool, any photos, I had a friend drop by today that has bought a Honda 4 stroke grass trimmer and thought that would go nicely in that hull..............now to convince the wife.
 
Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: big bill on November 03, 2013, 11:32:43 PM
gday phill,
 im not that far from you , near port fairy ,Vic Australia .my tug is 800mm+270mm beam , but under propped ,at 55 mm 4 bladed ,you need a large prop on this tug , 65-80mm, i would suggest t/belt g/box+a jaycar 700 , ratio 3:1,its hard out here to get decent motors ,i can supply more info .
my plan came from RC Boat Modeller 1998 , Denise C , there is a plan , magazine size .
i find it interesting to find out this tug was a kit ,then turned up in a magazine as a plan feature , copy right ??there is a similar tug by dumas , i think ?
i can send snail; mail photos/info , but email at this end , no good ,lat photo took 2 days to down load !! OOPs.
 model is good , but it needs bigger prop or twin props +nozzle doesn't help steering in reverse .
im going to try a decaperm in mine , or brushless w g/box ,as i have a nozzle , major surgery to change prop size , its a good rough weather model , but under powered -current motor is a low rev, hi torque type , a little too low revs !!
regards bill s
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on November 05, 2013, 12:22:10 AM
Hi Bill, I still have a couple of old copies of an American Mag that were advertising the Denise C, very similar, I was ready to go ahead and mold this hull but now that I've seen my friends 4 stroke trimmer motor I'm thinking of going a bit bigger and fitting one of those, no flat batteries, just a nice burble from the motor. Just have to convince the wife that I NEED to spend $299 on a brand new whipper snipper just to pull it to bits.
Phill
 
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: big bill on November 05, 2013, 02:13:07 AM
gday phill,
bit of over kill, isn't it , the brush-cutter !! plenty of stick , but how do you back out of trouble ?? you would really be able to water ski behind it !!
mate did a 1200mm perkasa w same power plant ,3 screws ,35+mph on water !!
another mate is building a train g/box that reverses ,to hook up to brushcutter ,he has go -fasts ,so spare motors , to power tug 1100mm+
another way is to fit separate shaft ,to electric motor ,to reverse model , or fit above shaft w one way bearing ,just for reverse .
 personally ,i would go w 75mm ;prop+3:1 g/box, a good heavy weather model +heaps of duration,and are there noise issues at your lake ??
seems to be popping up every-where else .
good luck , keep us posted
regards bills 
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on November 05, 2013, 03:38:39 AM
Common sense (the wife) will prevail on this one I think, reverse gear wouldn't be a huge problem.....we have the technology and noise is no problem at all here, and if it becomes a problem my inlaws have a 33 acre private dam (one of five on the property).
There are a couple of videos on you tube of a guy with a 4 stroke tug towing himself around on a kayak.
 
Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: big bill on November 05, 2013, 04:42:25 AM
the good thing about this hobby is , we can choose how big , or small we make our models .
i prefer something about 1000mm loa, that 1 bloke can pick up and carry to the water ,as i started sailing mainly by my-self ,and at this size ,it can still handle heavy weather .
to build something as big as what i think you want to ,you will have to be able to get it in the water ,so , i gather you can launch from a beach or boat ramp ??half your luck
were there`s a will ,there`s a away
most of my current models are done to 1/32 , not to big , not too small .
good luck , its a good design ,a nice dry model     bill s
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on November 05, 2013, 04:48:11 AM
Have you by any chance seen my Abeille Liberte build here on Mayhem? now theres  a boat that's gonna need its own trailer. 8)
Phill
 
 
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on November 05, 2013, 04:52:55 AM
Heres a pic of the local public spot (taken at our Australia day demonstration)
 
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: big bill on November 05, 2013, 05:38:39 AM
gday phill,
 no i havent seen your other model , i gather you like them big ?? only tassie club water i saw was in the bay area of your capital , and it was by photo only , i havent being lucky enough to visit
you club water looks great+you have a big model launch ramp, oops , boat ramp ??
big model of mine is a 6.5 ft top hat hull , blue leopard ketch yacht , but i mainly do stand off scale electric , moving onto some steam , not a lot of good big model water in w/bool , most ponds have weed issues , or decorate trees ,so i tend to do 750-1000mm models .
 we have a small social club , approx. 5 members currently , but we started w 2 , so i cant say we arnt going well , but no hobby shop now , so its hard to attract members
around some-were there is a ME club w a 12-14 ft paddle steamer , i think down your way ?? that do rides for kids and kids at heart
regards bill s
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on November 05, 2013, 11:26:01 AM
Its funny, we have a sort of unofficial club up this end of the state and then theres us, just a group of mates that get together whenever we can, trying to avoid club politics and all that garbage. The club down south are more organized and official but with that goes all the in fighting I'm afraid, I only really catch up with them at the wooden boat festival once every 2 years.
Oh and we definitely have better spots to sail up this end :-))
Phill
 
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: big bill on November 05, 2013, 12:26:14 PM
gday phill,
 our club is set up the same way as geelong , no fees ,no meetings , its all done at the lake , just a social avo sailing .
we have being forced to pay insurance to exhibit , but im the only one who does , the others don't bother to exhibit , government issue , a pity ,as it has forced a lot away from exhibits. weed is also a issue , most man made lakes don't bother to stop it .
we just go down to have fun , play w our boats and help others get theirs going , works out well, as 1 bloke repairs caravans ,another is a ex teacher of fitting and turning ,and another a steam nut ,so between us all we can help .
we send the yachts to 1 end ,scale to the other ,and any go-fasts out in another direction ,all works well .
regards bill s
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: big bill on November 05, 2013, 09:38:37 PM
gday phill,
 when and were do you sail ??
we sail secound sunday of the month , 2-2.30 pm ,sometimes later on hot days ,at lake pertobe warrnambool Vic.
regards bill s
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on November 06, 2013, 07:08:21 AM
There is a group that sail at Penguin on Saturdays between 1 and when the batteries go flat, I sail there when I get a chance but with a young family its a case of throw em in when you can, my inlaws dam is at Sassafrass and our other spot is Bells Parade at Latrobe which is where we run our Australia day display, a brilliant spot but tidal.
Phill
 
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 03, 2014, 05:57:56 AM
It's been a while but I have finally started molding the Preston hull.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2229_zpsfc49b80a.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2229_zpsfc49b80a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 03, 2014, 05:58:51 AM
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2233_zpse5ecebbf.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2233_zpse5ecebbf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 03, 2014, 06:00:36 AM
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2232_zps5262b95c.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2232_zps5262b95c.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2231_zps57b1e37f.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2231_zps57b1e37f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: tugboyben on August 03, 2014, 06:48:47 AM
Great Work Phil


Nice to see you back on this project  :-))


Jason
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 03, 2014, 07:59:59 AM
Thanks Jason, I have been putting off sailing lately as most of my models are so big so I hope this one will be easyer to chuck in the car and go.

Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Antipodean on August 04, 2014, 12:13:20 AM
You make it look so easy, you also make it look good too.
Great work  Phil.


Cheers  Ian
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 04, 2014, 11:38:45 AM
Thanks Ian, here's a shot of the mold bolted together and a coat of gel coat sprayed in, shows her shape very nicely I think.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2234_zpsc4fb34d3.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2234_zpsc4fb34d3.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2235_zps45c9cca2.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2235_zps45c9cca2.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2236_zps66f00be5.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2236_zps66f00be5.jpg.html)
Title: New OZ Work Bench?
Post by: derekwarner on August 04, 2014, 11:22:30 PM
Phil.......is this your contribution to the OZ invention of 2014?

A work bench made from a Ford Falcon utility tail gate?........... {-) ...Derek
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 05, 2014, 12:14:20 AM
Nice one Derek  :-)) I inherited that ute 12 months ago and I really don't know how I ever lived without it, there's quite a slope at the back there and it puts the tailgate at the perfect working height, Its never cluttered when you need a bench in a hurry (cause its folded up) I can now take all my boats sailing, pull up at the waters edge and it makes a perfect seat, my dad sets up his drop saw on it for cutting firewood and at the end of the day you just hose it off and fold it back up..........although I did notice that the brace on the left is down to its last two strands of steel wire.

Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 07, 2014, 12:17:20 PM
I have had to break a personal rule today, I have always sworn that I would not bother making my own propellers but sadly after blowing my budget for this build on Hobbyking last night (curse you Hobbyking) I am going to have to give it a go.
I took the design for a full size blade in CAD and then laser engraved the shape into 1.5mm brass, my laser doesn't cut metal but using a special compound I can leave a permanent black mark that can only be removed by grinding.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2239_zpsd4c35c42.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2239_zpsd4c35c42.jpg.html)
A really bad photo but here are the lasered in marks.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2238_zps374c5f86.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2238_zps374c5f86.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 07, 2014, 12:19:37 PM
A quick go with a thin cutting wheel in the grinder.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2246_zpsd69aa82b.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2246_zpsd69aa82b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 07, 2014, 12:22:33 PM
A bit of a clean up and a tap with the hammer over a former.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2248_zpsd2942297.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2248_zpsd2942297.jpg.html)

(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2249_zpse632de5e.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2249_zpse632de5e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 08, 2014, 04:34:46 AM
So today I cut and indexing ring to fit on my lathe, used the tool post as a guide for the hacksaw and machines the boss.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2251_zps0ab304c0.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2251_zps0ab304c0.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2252_zps6f07e32b.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2252_zps6f07e32b.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2253_zps746ce640.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2253_zps746ce640.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 09, 2014, 12:43:00 PM
Finished product, I could have cleaned up the solder a bit more but I thought it best to leave a fair bit of body for strength.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2257_zps2cf118e9.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2257_zps2cf118e9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 09, 2014, 12:46:53 PM
Can you imagine how happy I was when I pulled the mold apart and found this :)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2260_zps37c76626.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2260_zps37c76626.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2266_zps2de66c96.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2266_zps2de66c96.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 09, 2014, 12:48:45 PM
A quick check in the tank.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2262_zps7c7dbc9d.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2262_zps7c7dbc9d.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2264_zps05d1c0e4.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2264_zps05d1c0e4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 09, 2014, 12:51:16 PM
A nice simple rudder from some scrap 316 Stainless.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2268_zpsba6bbac5.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2268_zpsba6bbac5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 09, 2014, 12:54:28 PM
And a quick test fit of the shaft.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2267_zpsffa93d1f.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2267_zpsffa93d1f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: cuppa on August 10, 2014, 08:50:44 AM
very nice work sir
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 10, 2014, 09:44:28 AM
Thanks cuppa, I hope your enjoying the build.
Is it too soon for tyres, overkill maybe.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2274_zpsb744a9a4.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2274_zpsb744a9a4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 10, 2014, 09:48:00 AM
I got a chance to make the bearing housings and mounting for the grease nipple today.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2269_zpsf2aa276c.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2269_zpsf2aa276c.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2270_zpsd004699e.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2270_zpsd004699e.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2271_zpsc8582da1.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2271_zpsc8582da1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Brian60 on August 10, 2014, 11:01:12 AM
That's a helluva prop your holding, what is it, about 300mm across the blades? (I'll get me coat now) %) %)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 14, 2014, 12:29:19 PM
You know what they say about a mans hands Brian, big hands mean big tugboats :)
Anyway here is a shot of the kickplate/rudder support showing the way the tab slots into the skeg making for easy rudder removal if I should ever have to.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2286_zps2fc93e62.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2286_zps2fc93e62.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 14, 2014, 12:31:50 PM
And what the whole assembly should look like.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2281_zpsdf61f961.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2281_zpsdf61f961.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 21, 2014, 09:43:18 AM
The whole family is down with swine flu at the moment but after a week of feeling crappy I managed to knock out a deck template and the first half of the wheelhouse.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2295_zps56cdd038.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2295_zps56cdd038.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2296_zps42ebd174.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2296_zps42ebd174.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2297_zps42c5a87f.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2297_zps42c5a87f.jpg.html)
If its all getting boring do tell me
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mark w on August 22, 2014, 06:57:08 PM
Not boring to me. Love your work. Wish we were closer, so I could see it in person  :-) . Hope all are feeling better. I may have missed it, what scale, and what are the dimensions of this tug?
 
Mark
 
 
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 24, 2014, 10:38:05 AM
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2303_zps490e3fcd.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2303_zps490e3fcd.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2304_zps6bd98f97.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2304_zps6bd98f97.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 24, 2014, 12:12:32 PM
Not boring to me. Love your work. Wish we were closer, so I could see it in person  :-) . Hope all are feeling better. I may have missed it, what scale, and what are the dimensions of this tug?
 
Mark

Just saw your comment Mark, it's 1:12 scale and ends up 1 metre long.

Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 27, 2014, 11:33:02 AM
The wheelhouse starts showing her shape.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2306_zps40bf9e80.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2306_zps40bf9e80.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2307_zpsa6bb1a92.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2307_zpsa6bb1a92.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2308_zpsb1ae5783.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2308_zpsb1ae5783.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 27, 2014, 11:36:17 AM
And in place.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2311_zps31394240.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2311_zps31394240.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2313_zps29beb479.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2313_zps29beb479.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2309_zpsa8e56ee7.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2309_zpsa8e56ee7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: tugboyben on August 27, 2014, 11:55:35 AM
That's Coming along Phil  :-))


Jason


P.s iv sent you a PM




Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: freshfrenchbread1964 on August 27, 2014, 06:58:15 PM
Hey jay I hope you are not wanting that nice man to supply you with another hull ?  {-) {-) {-)
Admiral
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: derekwarner on August 27, 2014, 10:23:37 PM
Phill...all of that laser cut ply appear to assemble very neatly :-))

Tell us...where did you get the blue plastic clamps from? .... Derek

Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 28, 2014, 12:44:15 AM
Hi Jason, Ill see what I can do for you, would you like to PM me your email.
Derek, funny story about those clamps, when I had the shop a customer that built plastic kits asked if we could find and order these blue plastic clamps, we made a few calls, found the wholesaler, signed up with them, made up an order to meet their minimum quantity requirements and waited for them to turn up, box turns up, everything else was in there but the clamps, turns out they went straight to backorder so we rang the customer and told the guy they were about 4months away and if they could get them elsewhere to go for it, the customer was quite happy to wait so we let the order stand, he would come in about once a week just to enquire and always seemed happy when he left, anyway, 4 months passed, the clamps turned up, we rang him and he abused us for taking so long and told us to stick em so they sat on the shelf until we closed so that's how they wound up in my workshop, and I am so glad he backed out because they are sooooo handy :)

Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 28, 2014, 12:45:36 AM
Should have added that the clamps should be available from any hobby shop in Aus (if in stock at the wholesalers)

Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: tugboyben on August 28, 2014, 05:37:20 AM
Hi Jason, Ill see what I can do for you, would you like to PM me your email.


Phill
Morning Phil


PM sent Jason
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 28, 2014, 11:42:16 AM
A few more bits drawn up and cut out today, roof with locating lugs and holes for mast & fittings, wheelhouse wings, exhaust housing sides (not sure how to do the half round just yet) and top of the lower half or engine room.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2317_zps4514583c.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2317_zps4514583c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 28, 2014, 11:46:47 AM
This is handy, turns out a porthole I have a mold for is the perfect size for this model.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2320_zpsf7d96ffb.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2320_zpsf7d96ffb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on August 28, 2014, 11:53:52 AM
And a quick view of the engine room.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2332_zpsfc64342c.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2332_zpsfc64342c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 03, 2014, 12:56:10 PM
Started playing with the exhaust housing, I was going to frame it like a aircraft wing but decided to just block it up with balsa.

(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2356_zpse3c5de64.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2356_zpse3c5de64.jpg.html)

(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2357_zps49646907.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2357_zps49646907.jpg.html)

(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2355_zps6d6b30fa.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2355_zps6d6b30fa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on September 03, 2014, 01:15:11 PM
 
Hey Phil,
Have you decided what type of saddle you will be using on that thing?!!!   :o
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 03, 2014, 01:20:47 PM
Hi Martin, I must admit I get a smug little grin when I think about the bow wave she'll put out  ;)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 05, 2014, 11:35:22 AM
I got a chance to make the motor mount today, 1 layer of 7mm ply and a piece of 3mm clear acrylic epoxied either side, the slots are for some supports to run aft.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2382_zpsee6ddc9a.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2382_zpsee6ddc9a.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2383_zpsb2855b0c.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2383_zpsb2855b0c.jpg.html)
 Just ignore the temporary brace.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 11, 2014, 11:08:43 AM
I managed to get the wheelhouse glued together (look no clamps!) windows drawn, cut and test fitted ready for staining and applied a coat of epoxy sealer.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2470_zpsed0fe655.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2470_zpsed0fe655.jpg.html)
oh, and the shrouds for the port/starboard nav lights.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2471_zps007ea8cc.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2471_zps007ea8cc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 11, 2014, 11:13:34 AM
I also finished adding details to the deck drawing such as the main opening, bulwark support locators, bow and stern bitt holes ready for fitting and worked out a template for the coaming, keep in mind its just a template and will end up about 20mm thick.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2473_zps84691a83.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2473_zps84691a83.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2472_zpsb9daefd8.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2472_zpsb9daefd8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 11, 2014, 11:19:31 AM
I should probably also mention that I fired her up and had a run in the test tank, on the bench on 24v she was drawing 2.5amps flat out with no lubrication, not sure of the amps in the tank due to the fact I stripped the thread out of my prop, I think it loosened a bit while in reverse then when I went forward it quickly pulled itself back in, a bit like a twist drill and tore out the brass thread :(

Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 25, 2014, 01:32:42 PM
I finally got the window frames done and stained, not fixed in yet just sitting in place and a couple of coats of primer on the wheelhouse.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2476_zps4f4edd31.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2476_zps4f4edd31.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 25, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
The final deck cut from 3mm ply being epoxied into place.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2477_zps45b4e325.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2477_zps45b4e325.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 28, 2014, 10:57:45 AM
Towing bitts made today, just sitting in place.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2480_zps8ab153e7.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2480_zps8ab153e7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 28, 2014, 11:01:13 AM
Exhaust tip and mast in place, all in stainless.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2482_zps11c62622.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2482_zps11c62622.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2483_zps89fbdd8e.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2483_zps89fbdd8e.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2485_zps93babdd9.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2485_zps93babdd9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 29, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
And here's what you don't see below, the bitt's run all the way to the hull and epoxy in place.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2487_zps4d0b9a13.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2487_zps4d0b9a13.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Big Ada on September 29, 2014, 05:52:47 PM
How do you attach what you are Towing to the Bitts please.
 
Len.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on September 30, 2014, 10:20:19 AM
I usually figure eight the line around the two posts the loop the line between the through the hole but for this one I might use some 6mm rope with a carabiner clip.

phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Norseman on October 06, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
Nice as always Phill, you do build a solid bit of kit.  O0

Dave
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 07, 2014, 09:27:20 AM
Hi Norseman, good to hear from you  :-)) If you saw how I sail them you would understand why I build em tough.
Sadly I have lost a few photos due to a dodgy SD card but here's an updated photo.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2506_zps0a159e94.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2506_zps0a159e94.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2507_zpsbef005d4.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2507_zpsbef005d4.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2510_zpsb5a5552f.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2510_zpsb5a5552f.jpg.html)
The nametags or only temporarily held on with blu-tac and the mooring bollards are over length.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 07, 2014, 09:34:41 AM
Not sure if this will work but here's a link to a photo of the float test with batteries on my facebook site.
https://www.facebook.com/250190361689419/photos/pcb.783258745049242/783258395049277/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 20, 2014, 12:09:16 PM
See if you can spot the progress :)

(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2520_zps5540a5f1.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2520_zps5540a5f1.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2525_zps537e0ac1.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2525_zps537e0ac1.jpg.html)
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2521_zpse9f07043.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2521_zpse9f07043.jpg.html)
oh, and its hanging there because the paints too soft to sit on the stand.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 20, 2014, 12:56:42 PM
 
Look at the finish on that!    :o
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: tugboyben on October 20, 2014, 01:11:38 PM
WoW Phil
That looks fantastic  :-) :-) :-) :-)

Jason
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 20, 2014, 01:26:56 PM
Thanks guys, all automotive acrylics, my only regret is not fixing that blemish in the waterline just above the sterntube.

Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: dougal99 on October 20, 2014, 02:09:05 PM
Didn't notice it until you mentioned it and then I had to magnify the picture !


Ps Love you plastic strip store -  fell off a shop counter????  %%
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 21, 2014, 12:42:49 AM
Hi Dougal, it fell off my old shop counter, I'm kinda lucky in a way because I have the plastruct rack, a full evergreen rack, a full humbrol rack and 3 k+S metal centres, plus a tub full of Gunze paints :) its a hard life :-))

Phil
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 21, 2014, 08:04:03 AM
Waterline blemished now fixed :)

Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 22, 2014, 10:53:53 AM
Rubbing strip on, glazing in and a couple of other bits and pieces.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2549_zpsc2e9355e.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2549_zpsc2e9355e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: tugboyben on October 22, 2014, 11:29:06 AM
Morning Phil
That is a model to be proud of well done  :-))


Jason
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 22, 2014, 11:52:56 AM
Thanks again Jason, just working out my To Do list.
Nav lights, interior lights, spot light, latching system for the wheelhouse, install rx and rudder servo. make a tiller arm, battery tray, mount bow fender, order a radio, make handrail for the front of the wheelhouse, make the liferaft canister and mountings, make steps for the rear engine room hatch, hatch for the rudder access , epoxy the bottom of the mooring posts..........test run..........start next model.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 22, 2014, 12:03:02 PM
And portholes!
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Davenotdone on October 22, 2014, 12:21:59 PM
Lovely model. It looks simple and solid ( that is meant in a good way )  :-))   Even the stand looks like you have put some thought and skill into it, it looks lovely. Regards, Dave.
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 22, 2014, 12:33:36 PM
Thanks Dave, I have a lot of models that are too fiddly to be fun if you know what I mean, this one can be chucked in the car without fear of breakage.

Phill
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 24, 2014, 01:34:52 AM
Making portholes on the laser because I'm too lazy to cast them.
First, engrave away the face leaving the centre ring and rivet detail raised.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2561_zps93b95329.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2561_zps93b95329.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 24, 2014, 01:38:48 AM
Its an awful photo but here's the cut-out ring ready for glazing.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2563_zps3684a52e.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2563_zps3684a52e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 24, 2014, 01:40:09 AM
On the left of the photo you can see the glazing with an engraved ring to locate into the porthole.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2571_zps2d12ff40.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2571_zps2d12ff40.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on October 24, 2014, 01:41:09 AM
And the finished product with a bit of silver humbrol thrown on.
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2575_zps0882e6fa.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2575_zps0882e6fa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mark w on October 24, 2014, 03:46:19 AM
Very cool  :-)) .


Mark
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: mermod on November 16, 2014, 10:29:43 AM
Finally got a chance to test run the Preston today, I only had a 120amp esc on hand and this particular one will only run on 18 volt or over so the simple solution was to drop in 2x12volt 7amp gel cells and just go easy on the throttle........how hard could it be right?
1st picture is less than quarter throttle
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2633_zps89aa34bf.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2633_zps89aa34bf.jpg.html)

2nd picture about 3/4 throttle
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2629_zps75e0e277.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2629_zps75e0e277.jpg.html)

Flat out!
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF2628_zpsf0ca0bd0.jpg) (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/Phillip_Sachman/media/DSCF2628_zpsf0ca0bd0.jpg.html)

I think I may have o find a smaller speedy and drop back to 12volt  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 16, 2014, 11:09:51 AM
 
Excellent! ..... How much to hire your ski boat out for 30 minutes?!   :-)
Title: Re: Tugboat PRESTON build
Post by: hama on November 16, 2014, 01:33:11 PM
Haha! {-)
A piece of art though, would like to have both your skills and your workshop!
Hama