Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: Spook on October 19, 2012, 02:35:06 pm
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OK, so I did it. I managed to persuade the love of my life to allow me to purchase another boat kit - though goodness knows where it's going to go when it's finished (although I have spotted some space on the bathroom window sill.) She's a wonderful woman, my Mrs. O0
This is going to be a very different build for me, as the hull is ABS, not GRP and there are quite a few wooden parts, so it should prove interesting.
This is what she's supposed to look like, but we'll see what develops as we progress shall we? %)
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The story so far...
My first impression was 'there's not much in the box', which is probably correct, since I've been building kits with hundrerds of parts and this has far fewer parts. That said, there are plenty of small bits and bobs to keep me busy and it's of a scale where even Captain Clumsy should be able to fabricate some nice deck clutter from scrap.
Although the plastic die-cut sheets are rather uneven I should be able to straighten them out with a bit of gentle heat and patient coaxing. (Where's that iron?) Everything else looks hunky-dory though.
So far I have trimmed the excess from the hull and drilled the holes for the rudder and prop shaft. The instructions say to drill a 6mm hole for the prop shaft but the shaft that came with my kit is 6.5mm, so a bigger hole was needed. I've built and fitted the keel heel and started to cut the rudder support to size. All the 2mm holes have been drilled in the plastic sheet parts (and there are quite a few holes). I've just finished staining some (well, most) of the wooden parts a medium oak colour and am now feeling a bit light-headed - WHEEEEEEE! :o ;D {-)
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A little progress. The rudder support beam and rudder shaft are in place. I have aligned the rudder (and cut it to size) but have removed it ready for the drive gear to be fitted. Also the deck supports and rubbing strakes have been fitted, but the rubbing strakes will need a little tidying-up to make them look nice.
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Steering and drive gear installed and some of the r/c gear fitted. I still need to solder the wires to the motor and sort out the battery connectors. I'll do that when the battery retainers are in place (next job). The receiver will fit on the underside of the deck with velcro when the deck is in place. I'm not using the recommended motor, so I had to make my own motor mount and am using No More Nails to hold it in place, as it works so well on my Assurance tug.
Notice the ruddy great hole in the r/c mounting plate. This has been designed so that the ESC (of a different design to the Viper I am using) can fit snugly in place. The problem is that it still has to be cut out, as the 'scrap' portion contains two parts needed later in the build. I suppose I could have used a scrap piece to make them but I have man-flu and wasn't concentrating when I cut it out.
I just noticed I need to tidy up the bottom of that rudder as well.
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nice tidy installation...
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Are you going to fit the two capacitors to the motor case from each power lead connector ? I believe it will help keep interference down. ;)
Ken
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Are you going to fit the two capacitors to the motor case from each power lead connector ? I believe it will help keep interference down. ;)
Ken
No Ken. It has a capacitor installed across the motor contacts already. As far as I'm aware that is sufficient.
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Latest update...
Deck is in place and filled, mast supports, bulwark supports, bollards and handrails also done. Scuppers have been cut out (aft ones slightly high but, so what?)
The instructions said to paint the inside of the hull above deck once the deck is fitted and before doing all the other bits but I decided to paint at the stage I have now reached. I won't paint the visible surfaces of the handrails until I have completed painting the hull.
I was hoping to finish the bulwark supports and bollards as stained varnished wood, however nasty superglue seeped into the wood and coloured it in places, so all between the deck and handrails will be painted satin white. The string and rubber bands visible in the last few pics will be used to hold the aft companionway in place.
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Judging by the lack of response either everybody has died or nobody is remotely interested in this thread, so I won't bother posting any more on this subject. :((
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Hi Spook
Just because there have been no replies to your post, this does not mean that there has been no interest.
You have had over 250 views of this thread at the time of me writing.
You can see the number of views next to your thread title on the working vessels board.
TT
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263 views is hardly a lack of interest.
Great job and nice workmanship by the way. (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/Smileys/tumb.gif)
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It's a build log, a record of what you did, so people will generally read it like a book rather than an interactive thread.
So the lack of comments suggests you are doing OK - your pictures are all pretty self-explanatory.
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Looks like a very manouverable boat going on the size of the rudder, build pics look good keep them coming.
Don't be disshearted by the lack of replies keep the pictures coming and the comments will flow.
Jay
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Great build Spook - following every posting - please keep it going! Regards, Tony. :-))
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Thank you. Sorry about the gripe, I was feeling a bit lonely here in this thread all on my own (well, almost) - and, as you can see by the time of my post, I was probably not in my clearest state of mind. :embarrassed:
I have done a little more work but want to paint the hull and deck before I go any further and weather is stopping play. I might start work on some of the smaller bits.
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I have a real interest in your build Spook, it's a kit I've often been drawn to having not yet done a fishing boat. Many of us may not comment but lurk in the background and admire from afar, please keep posting plenty of details and as many pics as you can! I may want to build this boat one day O0 {-) it's a nice build to follow is this, Cheers, me.
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Hi
it's a nice build so far and really neat workmanship, enjoying seeing the build come to life.
Regards jonathan
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Spook hardly NO ONE posts on th weHappy Hunter Build but the views say it all just post along and dont think no one is watching you,I for one have been watching but not commenting.
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I will comment and offer a piece of advise GET RID of those silly Tamyia connectors and do yourself a favour and buy either the Yellow connectors or the red connectors off component shop,reason I say this is simple I have had far to many of those Tamyhia connectors burn out over the years so have changed over to hte ones mentioned,Even my stick packs have been changed
Keep up the good work
Dave
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Stavros, I don't like Tamiya connectors either. I have other boats where the Tamiya connectors have worked themselves loose and realigning them to connect them is a nightmare. I may extend the battery wires and fit spade connectors, as that's what's on the battery anyway. :-))
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AAAAAARGH! (again) Once again Captain Clumsy has exercised his super powers.
I have primed, sprayed and varnished the hull and removed the masking. I was just about to start painting the deck and rails when I thought I'd check that the rudder movement was OK after spraying. It was, for about 5 seconds, then the tiller arm snapped. I wasn't using much force to test it, so I'm not sure if it was me or a fault in the plastic moulding. Anyway, I've ordered another one - but fitting it is going to be interesting, as there ain't much room to work under that aft hatch. stand by for further breakages.
But here's a pic as she looks now.
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WOW! I am so impressed!
As you may remember from my earlier ramblings, yesterday morning Captain Clumsy snapped Antje's tiller arm. So Captain Sensible (who also lives in my head - sometimes) ordered a new one from Cornwall Model Boats yesterday. It arrived on my dorrmat at 11:30 this morning and was fitted and tested by 12:30, allowing me to crack on with today's building.
That's a great service and that's why I recommend them. Thank you CMB. :-)) :-)) :-))
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The story so far...
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Wheelhouse, companionways, homemade net, bits and bobs.
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Wheelhouse top rail and the start of homemade deck clutter.
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Well done, they look good :-)) How did you paint the hull?
you put me to shame with all your swift progress :embarrassed:
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Thanks :-) but I have plenty of time on my hands - I work odd shifts and spend a lot of time on my own.
I masked the handrail and added newspaper to mask the deck etc.
Put the model upside down and sprayed the whole hull with two coats of Halford's White primer.
Then I added masking from the waterline down and added newspaper to mask the stand and lower hull. Turned the model the right way up.
Sprayed with three coats of Halford's Rover Pageant Mid Blue paint.
Unmasked the lower hull (leaving the upper masking in place) and turned the model upside down again. Added the red boot topping to cover the join - this is, I'm ashamed to say, PVC tape, from Barry's Model Lettering - there is no way that Captain Clumsy could have painted that neatly. But I have used this tape in various colours on my other kits and it is the business!
Sprayed with three coats of Humbrol Enamel Satin Varnish. (The Halfords paints are acrylic but you can spray enamel over acrylic - I learned my lesson a couple of models ago ok2 )
Ensure that each coat is dry before applying the next one.
The deck is simply two coats of Humbrol Matt Light Brown and I shall be finishing off the top rail in Revell Satin Black.
Hope this helps
Spook
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I've just about completed the wheelhouse and have started fixing the sub-assemblies to the deck.
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really taking shape and looking good :-))
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lovely tidy build, very smart -i like the spook way ! - i guess you are not going to weather it then ?
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I would love to weather it Guy, but the very thought of it scares me stiff and sends Captain Clumsy into raptures so, sadly, no. :((
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Why not have a try using weathering chalks. If you don't like the effect you can wash them off and try again. When/if you are happy with the results you can seal them in with varnish, though I'd test that on a dummy first as it tends to reduce the effect somewhat.
If it's just for display or you don't mind reapplying the chalks occasionally you can skip the varnish.
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Hopefully she'll be a sailing model. The r/c is installed and tested. If I can get the ballast right she'll be on the water as soon as possible. But I'll probably just leave her unweathered.
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Hi Spook
Somehow I have missed your build until now ... But I have enjoyed it in one session.
Looking good, but have you found a space for her yet?
Dave
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Spook,
Very nice build. I've been following along. Captain clumsy and Captain sensible are my constant building partners {:-{ . I just don't know which one will offer help first <:( .
Mark
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Dave - Still looking, but I think a sneaky annexation of a windowsill somewhere else in the house may be in the offing. ok2
LOL Mark - They plague me in everything I do. {:-{
I've been doing quite a few bits and bobs lately, but the light hasn't been good enough for photos and I hate using flash, so here are a few update pics taken today. The winch is complete (with a few mistakes as usual, that I seem to have got away with) the sheer boards and net lines are in and I have ballasted her in the bath. She's right on the waterline at the bows and midships, but just a little low aft - but I can't do anything about that. With only the masts and rigging (and a bit of deck clutter) left to put on I don't think she'll sit any lower, so hopefully it'll be OK.
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Really nice Spook, crisp and clean deatailing - like it :-))
Regards, Tony.
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Me too. :-))
Isn't great when someone can make such a good job of even a relatively simple kit.
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Awww... shucks! :embarrassed:
Just about finished now. I need to re-check the ballasting after adding the masts and rigging and maybe add a bit more deck clutter and touch up the paintwork here and there. Then I'll be waiting for a nice calm, dry day to take her to the lake. Hopefully sailing photos to follow...
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It's looking terrific ! I really like fishing boats and remember this kit from way back but the ABS side of things put me off, you've now made me wish I'd given it a go, you've made a great boat out of it and I look forward to seeing her sailing. O0
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Looks like we're in business. Ballasting checked and adjusted. All ready for the lake now. Just need this wind to die down.
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Just need this wind to die down.
A quick visit to the chemist should sort you out Spook.
Dave
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hi mate
i love your build ,a couple of questions
did you by the winch or make it ? very nice and authentic (from an extrawler man )
is ABS easy to work with ,compared to plank on frame ? never used it but seams like the bigger beam trawlers i want to do are all ABS
any links to modern dutch beam er model kits /pic
cheers bob
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A quick visit to the chemist should sort you out Spook.
Dave
I wish :embarrassed:
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Bob - the winch kit is part of the Antje II kit. I ordered the fittings kit at the same time as the basic kit so I'm not sure if all of the winch is included in the basic kit but, to be honest, an extra 30-odd quid for the fittings makes the model come alive. Also, I miscalculated when adding the trawl lines, hence the black shrouds. To be honest the instructions were rather misleading about how much thread to use for the shrouds and, in my haste, I didn't bother to check. Thankfully I have loads of spare thread of various diameters so the outcome was a happy one.
I didn't bother with the 'wooden parts fittings' kit, as I didn't feel confident enough to plank the deck, which is probably why I had no net or sail with her. I have added a few touches of my own, i.e. bucket, paint pots, net, lockers etc, and I'm still contemplating adding a sail and maybe some figures, if I can find the right size.
This is the first time I've worked in ABS and wood (my other builds were based on GRP and polystyrene) but ABS is remarkably easy to work with. I used medium/thick superglue to fix the ABS together and B&Q general purpose adhesive (basically their own branded UHU) for the wooden parts, which worked well.
It was a nice kit to build - much less cursing and swearing than with any of my other builds. I'd recommend it.
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you did a good job on her :-))
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Really nice Spook , made a lovely job of it O0 :-))
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Hello Spook
I'm a newby to the hobby and the forum, however I must commend you on the build of this boat :-))
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Thank you - and welcome to the hobby and the forum. :-))
I took Antje to the lake today and immediately made two decisions:
1) Never to sail in any conditions other than dead flat calm. There was a slight breeze and she was all over the place, despite correct ballasting.
2) Fit a bigger propellor. The one that came with the kit, combined with my 6:1 geared motor makes no headway. It's easy to sail at scale speed but that's flat out and you sometimes need a little bit of extra 'poke' to avoid careless sailors (or over-amorous swans).
Other than that, she looks pretty good on the water. No photos today, I'm afraid, as I had to use both hands to keep her under control in the breeze. I'm glad I didn't fit a sail, as she behaves like a yacht anyway.
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Nice model Spook, like it very much. Santa springs to mind!!
Out of curiosity, anyone know what are the differences between this Antje II and the original Antje, which I remember seeing in Model Boats magazines of the past?
Tony
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II?
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Found this but isn't it the same? http://www.alwayshobbies.com/Model-Boats/Radio-Controlled-Model-Boat-Kits/Robbe-Radio-Controlled-Model-Boat-Kits/Robbe-Antje-2-Cutter-Kit.ice
Dave
Sorry wrong link there - Antje mentioned in this mag http://www.payhost.net/modelling/acatalog/Model_Boats_January_1983.html
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That is brill! Well done!
Keep up the good work spook.
Dan
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I came across your beautiful model on the web. I have a kit to build (which I have had stored away for years) and would welcome advice on cutting the hull moulding to size - the instructions are not too clear. D o I cut to the lowest 2line" on the moulding? How accurate do I need to be and what tool do you recommend. You can tell I am a novice.
Many thanks
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Hi Dabblingduck.
I can't remember exactly what the hull looked like originally but, if you look at my first pics you will see no lines on the hull so I guess you need to cut at the lowest line, but my pics should give you an idea of where to cut.
You will need to be fairly accurate, as you will have to glue on the strips either side of the top of the hull to make the rail but any sticky-up bits can be sanded into shape.
I used a Stanley knife to score the cut line then just bent the plastic to break it. I guess that it should have been scored then cut but I found that the ABS split along the scored line when I bent it so I took the easy way out.
Good luck with the model. If you need any help just shout. I try to mention tips and mistakes as I go through the build so, hopefully, you will find it useful.
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I recently used one of those sonic sanders
Sorted my line out and then clamped an aluminium strip to it.
'twas brillig
.................and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe'
There you go .... Free poetry :}
Dave
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You like it then. %)
Ken
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Wonderful workmanship. I have just bought a second hand trawler, very similar to this model, only seen two pics of it and don't get my mits on it until Saturady night...I want it now :(( So, have been reading your thread and getting ideas as I know my trawler will need some TLC so figured I could use some of your painting ideas and detail work.
Very nice indeed, thanks for posting and sharing.
Si:)
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Yes loved it Ken. Used the cutter on the heavily lipped area then the sanding attachment on the rest. Very quick, light, and the finish was ever so smooth. I would definitely recommend it.
Dave
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:-))
ken
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Wonderful workmanship. I have just bought a second hand trawler, very similar to this model, only seen two pics of it and don't get my mits on it until Saturady night...I want it now :(( So, have been reading your thread and getting ideas as I know my trawler will need some TLC so figured I could use some of your painting ideas and detail work.
Very nice indeed, thanks for posting and sharing.
Si:)
Glad I could help. I've received a lot of good advice from members since I started this hobby about 3(?) years ago, so it's nice to pay back a bit.
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I have just found this build thread and think your model looks fantastic!!!! :-) It has that ' if it looks right it is right ' look about it, not overdone and not plain either. Gives me inspiration to get my two boats finished!! Regards, Dave.
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A lovely build Spook & looks right on the water too, thanks for the great photos, Mick B.
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This is fantastic. Ive just bought this kit and cant believe my luck in finding this article.
Thank you for writing it. This is better than the instructions :-))
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