Model Boat Mayhem

Dry Dock / Shipyard: Builds & Questions => Yachts and Sail => Topic started by: LarryW on November 12, 2012, 05:23:28 PM

Post by: LarryW on November 12, 2012, 05:23:28 PM
        Attended the warwick model show the weekend, where i met Martin nice to put a face to a post,

 also the wife purchased a Surmont sail boat a early  christmas present from Howles Models ,
   put it together today , with the worse pidgen english instruction book ever ,
 so need a little advice how the winch and sail set should be set up hope some body can help ,
 or is there pictorial some where .........cheers Larry....

Post by: Timo2 on November 12, 2012, 05:31:48 PM
Hi Larry

   Surmont set up just like Monsoon Yacht have a look at = (

Post by: mrpenguin on November 13, 2012, 12:56:14 AM
Gday Larry
The Monsoon link should provide you with winch threading details.
I suggest you stick with the thicker cords as the boat is provided- these stay in the winch drum channels better than thinner line. Also you may find you do not need all the sheet travel available with the winch - if your TX has adjustable endpoints, limit the travel so you only get what you need - saves tangles in the winch, particularly with the jib sheet.
I would recommend a couple of mods:
1) Install a piece of plastic or card ABOVE the rudder servo but BELOW the mainsail sheet - saves some nasty tangles of main sheet in rudder servo (see pic below)
2) Replace the bowsie in the backstay (do the other bowsies if you feel like it) - it WILL break in the first decent gust of wind
3) Seal the hatch with electrical tape or similar to avoid leaks.
Surmount is a great boat IMHO. There are two distinct versions - the earlier version has a smaller round cross-section keel bulb and is very tender in stronger winds (keel bulb weight about 650 grams) the later version has an oval cross-section keel bulb and will hold nearly 900 g of lead shot - sails much better in a blow.
Video of it sailing in heavy weather here: (
Post by: LarryW on November 13, 2012, 11:17:23 AM
Hi Mrpenguin,
 thank you for info some good tips , also Timo 2 for your  advice
 my surmount is a pretty good finish as a large keel bulb only the winch was a mess but hope now  sorted .....
  only lake trails will tell , if it sails like the vid i will be happy ...
  had a go at footys but did not have a clue so still learning please any more info will help.....
    will post a couple pictures soon ,     ........may take the build book down to the local chines take away for translation its a joke ,
    only thing that let the build down........cheers Larry...

Photos added....

Post by: LarryW on January 03, 2013, 08:43:20 PM
  HI all,
 And a HAPPY NEW YEAR sailed the SURMOUNT the week end at Portishead went well at last got sail boat that performs ,
   looking now to make changes to improve the performance,  any ideas out there..?..
     have some photos but still having trouble trying to down load on the  new format, can be viewed on model boat web site ...cheers Larry...
Post by: mrpenguin on January 03, 2013, 10:07:07 PM
Gday Larry
Pleased to hear it went well - looking forward to photos.....
Photos for this forum ned to be very small (160Kb limit). You will need to use an application to resize them - there are hundreds of resizing applications around or some of the basic programs on your computer may already provide what is needed (eg Paint if you are using Windows)
Re improving performance - getting the sails set correctly is the key IMHO - settings depend ont he conditions of course....
Post by: tigertiger on January 04, 2013, 02:48:58 AM
Hi Larry

If the photos are in .jpg format, treat them as an attachment, instead of trying to upload as a photo.

Post by: LarryW on January 04, 2013, 11:29:04 AM
        thank you for comments try the paint confused with settings what do i type in on resize to get a posting picture tried to post a picture '
    its the size of potage stamp,
                 a very confused Larry.....
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 04, 2013, 02:03:50 PM
Hi Larry,

Best photo size = 640 x 480 pixels
Max 161Kb per photo
12 photos per post
(Max Allowance per post 2Meg 2000Kb)

.... or use Photobucket, Image stack, Flickr, etc. or as before, email them to me and I'll upload them for you.

Martin - Admin
Post by: LarryW on January 04, 2013, 02:32:03 PM
 thank you for help