Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Full Scale Ships => Topic started by: slug on December 25, 2012, 08:25:52 am
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happy christmas to all,looking on u tube hull fishing trawler,sidewinder1950 good detail of gear,alsofishing boats in newlyn harbour parts 1&2 good detail tony
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► 15:00► 15:00www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PljQytH4yE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PljQytH4yE)fishing boats in newlyn harbour 1994
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cheers slug. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Great footage, Slug.
Brought back some horrible memories...........those shots of the old Tommy Hamlin oil burner (at about 11.35mins) rolling in the swell reminded me of the one and only trip I ever did to Icelandic waters as a "pleasurer" in aid of my final disitation at college in the early 70's.was mid summer, calm like that and I sat for 17 days behind the funnel on the old Wyre trawler from Fleetwood........ chucking my guts up....it was only when I was sailing up the river wyre that the bosun told me sarcastically that if I'd sat on the foc'sle I wouldn't have been smelling the diesel for that length of time and would probably been ok after a day or two.........don't know how those brave lads do it trip after trip, and especially in rough weather.......I really don't.
neil.
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neil glad you found it the trawlers in newlyn harbour were also good for deck clutter etc tony
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I Neil it was hard in those days no hydraulics to help with the hauling of the gear.
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hi Charlie.....yes, matey.glad I only ever did the one trip, lo
neil.
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A bygone age NO quotas,and hardly any "unwanted catch" being thrown overboard.While the French fish right up to our coast and seem to take anything they want.
Mick F
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i your right eec killed the fishing at least here in scotland
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found this on youtubevery very good www.youtube.com/user/barnardhull52 (http://www.youtube.com/user/barnardhull52). 30 plus videos of trawlers etc aberdeen harbour very good for sailing trawlers ....tony
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Superb trawler clips, trawlers with beautiful lines....like it....Rod
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The old boats have better lines than modern vessels
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To my mind there are no better lines than a sidewinder trawler..Rod :-)) :-))
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the story of the gaul was good,makes you wonder what went on during the cold war,thought it may have come out now with the freedom of information...tony..like the old steam drifter from gt yarmouth
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a good example is the artic corsair which is now a museum piece
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We have Ross Tiger still afloat in Grimsby.
At the Fishing Heritage Centre and opwn to visitors.
Ned
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do you know if there are plans available for the ross tiger
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do you know if there are plans available for the ross tiger
Not sure but Im on the hunt :-))
Ned
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please let me know if you track them--tu
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The plans for ROSS TIGER will be in the Cochranes Archives, but i don,t have a link or address to give you .....Rod
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Think the Cochranes archive is in the Hull Museum Rod , Slug the Gaul was lost due to , of all things , defective offal dump chute valves. Her sisters all suffered from flooding in the processing deck because the flap gate was made from 2 types of metal that corroded and kept jamming the opening in the open position.
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Very frightening in a following sea.
Ned
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Hi Davie....Just found the address for Cochranes Archives they are no longer in Hull museum.......It is now;- Ellen Tout, "".archivist....North Yorkshire CC...Record office...Malpas Rd...Northallerton....North Yorkshire..DL7 8TB....Tele;- 01609 777585..Rod
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thank for that rod will give the a try
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Hi Davie....Just found the address for Cochranes Archives they are no longer in Hull museum.......It is now;- Ellen Tout, "".archivist....North Yorkshire CC...Record office...Malpas Rd...Northallerton....North Yorkshire..DL7 8TB....Tele;- 01609 777585..Rod
you survived Rochdale then??? %% %% %%
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did mr & mrs even find there way to Rochdale then? and back as well???
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Listen Laurel and Hardy...My baby Ferrari can go anywhere... :-)) {-) {-) ....Rod
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Think the Cochranes archive is in the Hull Museum Rod , Slug the Gaul was lost due to , of all things , defective offal dump chute valves. Her sisters all suffered from flooding in the processing deck because the flap gate was made from 2 types of metal that corroded and kept jamming the opening in the open position.
hi davie your comments on the offal chute seem quite viable to me,,, i sailed on the A, B, & C class from early 68 to late 1974, the ranger aurora my 1st ship for the company, run by purdy trawlers (ranger fishing co) a subsiduary of p&o, the offal chute often toook in large ammounts of water when trawling in heavy seas, more so beam on seas, when working the factory deck, but when not in use the chute was always locked down, well it was by me, i often worked the baeder 188 filleting machine and the chute was right next to me, as soon as the last fillets went through and all guts were dumped the chute was always locked down with habit, before going on deck to haul the gear back up, what still puzzels me is the large 14ft gash in the hull just below the waterline on port side under the anchor pocket, she landed on a sandy bottom, the gash in the hull is buckled in over, not out over as the report states it may of been an implode, that woud show damaged plates buckled out over, i lost a lot of good shipmates that day and it still troubles me as to why such a ship as the C class, known as the floating hiltons sunk, i also have lots of pics of my years with ranger fishing co, if any one would like to see them i will gladly post on this thread,,,,, regards brian_c
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think she was caught a few times by trawlers in the 70's and 80's Brian so good chance some of the damage on her is due to trawl doors hitting her. Even though its a soft bottom she landed on it would still have been a big hit , from memory watching the documentary she's in about 80fm of water so would've hit the bottom at 15-20 knots and that could well have led to the tear in the hull just with the impact I guess.
I've read the report they did on her sister in the aftermath of the loss where they clearly identify serious problems with the chute closing gear , the Kurd ( was still fishing as the Kappin at Iceland up till recently ) had hers replaced due to another flood in poor weather after she was sold out of the UK the other 2 sisters are still around 1 is an oil field seismic survey ship the other is a fishery research trawler down in Australia so nothing wrong with the design or the sea keeping of the ships just the chute flaps were very poorly designed and the boys got very unlucky that night.
I think the conspiracy lot can rest easy with the Gaul Brian its poor design of one of the cheapest components aboard and bad weather that led to her loss that night not the Russians. Thats not to say the trawler fleet didn't spy on the Russians as its a proven fact that the Hull and Grimsby fleets did it on a regular basis as did the Granton , Fleetwood and Aberdeen boats from time to time.
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Listen Laurel and Hardy...My baby Ferrari can go anywhere... :-)) {-) {-) ....Rod
I resemble that....but which one ??? {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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hi davie,,, i dont believe in that conspiracy crap same as you dont, i think they all were just clutching at straws hoping maybe some crew were still alive,
it was just another awful tragedy and a sad loss to the industry
as regarding the spying, yes it went on, we had a naval officer with us on ranger boreas 1970, while fishing off the russian coast and often seen ruskie warships shadowing us, he stayed the full trip then never saw him again, but that trip we had several new airials fitted and still have the pics, they also removed all the heavy mooring bollards from all the other c class after the Gaul sank and replaced them with light alloy bollards, and i can still say,,, it was a great life on the trawlers and never had any regrets, regards brian_c
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i also have lots of pics of my years with ranger fishing co, if any one would like to see them i will gladly post on this thread,
Yes I'd be interested to see them Brian.
Dave
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first pic is ranger aurora 1968 2nd pic is ranger boreas 1969
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ranger aurora fishing at barents sea 1968
ranger apollo mooring at north shields after a 5 week trip to northern norway
these pics are a bit grainy, but considering they were taken with a box brownie in the sixties, they are not to bad
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1st pic ranger aurora 1968
2nd pic aurora again (a sight i liked to see) gates closed and steaming home after a 6 week trip around bear island and north cape
3rd pic is the m t blankenese renamed ranger boreas after 2 trips she was 243ft long, a big trawler for the late 60,s
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Hi Brian...Like the pictures, gives an insight to the hazards of all trawlermen...Rod
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pic 1 hauling time on the boreas
pic 2 thats me back in 69 on ranger briseis, steaming to fishing grounds
pic 3 ranger boreas in honningsvag, stan on left of the pic was lost on the gaul
left to right is stan fred spug geordie chuck and mel, mels the only one left now in this pic
pic 4 steaming to fishing grounds making up the nets
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pic 1 is the altona hamburg, sister to the rangers, boreas and briseis
pic 2 shore leave on the aurora in honningsvaag (happy times) harry spug & mel
pic 3 is the icelandic gunboats thor & aeiger
pic 4 moored up in honningsvaag (stan jimbo & crew member from southella (hull)
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thank you for sharing the pictures with us slug
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pic 1 is the hull trawler southella we were swapping movies off north cape,,, i will never forget that swap,, we gave them (HANG EM HIGH & ZULU,,, we got (HALF A SIXPENCE & TAMING OF THE SHREW,,,, just the films that 36 rough n ready fishermen want to watch, err nah
PIC 2 is the newly finished cordella j marr & sons hull before we took her on seatrials in 1974
pic 3 is the ranger aurora 1970 steaming out of honningsvaag
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pic 1 happy times steaming to the fishing grounds on the ranger castor (gaul)
pic 2 on the ranger castor, hosepipe fun 1972stan & sonny
pic 3 bridge front of ranger castor renamed (gaul) a few months later and sunk on 8-9 feb 1974 all hands lost
pic 4 showing trawl deck and gantry ranger castor 1972
pic 5 port side trawl deck just after shooting the nets and doors, ranger castor 1973
hope you have enjoyed the pics of my years with ranger fishing co. regards brian_c
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thank you for sharing all te pictures with mayhem members,you seem a happy bunch.abygone era never to come back...thanks...tony
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Thanks for a great batch of pictures & the history that goes with them. Our food supply of fish is pretty cheap when you start to see the effort & the danger that fishermen accept every day doing their job & that most people have little idea of what it takes & the risks involved. (me included) Mick B.
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Hi Brian
I have to agree with all Mick said above re our fish. Thanks for posting the pics - the more the merrier for me O0
Dave