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Title: making a ships brow
Post by: colin-stevens on May 14, 2007, 07:54:50 pm
any one help. got a photo here of the ships brow from a LCT. thing is i can not seem to work out the "shape" of the "steps". originaly i thought they were an inverted "V" flat at the base. and lots of them.doesnt seem to work to the drawing i have. can qany one desipher it for me, and give me a clue? in 1/24 i want it to be right.
cheers guys.
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: DickyD on May 14, 2007, 08:09:38 pm
Something like this
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: colin-stevens on May 14, 2007, 08:14:57 pm
cheers dicky, that was fast. yes thats what i thought, and what the drawing says, but looking at the photos, there seems to be an extra step "laid" on top of the uper "step"
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: colin-stevens on May 14, 2007, 08:22:27 pm
cheers. that what i thouhgt. but looking closely at the photo there seems to be an extra half "step"lying on the upper step. done my best to highlight it on this photo.
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: DickyD on May 14, 2007, 08:42:06 pm
Look at the shadows at top. Cant see any half step, Think you are looking at the flat section at the point of the V.

Richard ;)

Dont stare at it too long you will start to see things.
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: omra85 on May 14, 2007, 08:47:49 pm
For once, I concur with Richard.  It's a simple

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/omra85/steps.jpg)

If you look at the top longtitudinal rail, it gives a better idea.

Although if I were designing it, I'd be tempted to put a bar across the middle of the step to prevent your foot sliding forward when coming down when wet :o ;D

Danny
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: DickyD on May 14, 2007, 09:03:20 pm
Neat sketch Danny, no wonder we beat you on "wheres this then" I do a sketch you do a drawing. ::)
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: John W E on May 14, 2007, 09:12:48 pm
hi all

Referring to what Dicky has drawn - its quite feesible.  However, what we must remember is that the position of a boarding plank isnt always from deck down to quayside or from deck up to quayside.  Sometimes a boarding plank has to move through a variety of angles as the ship moves up/down with the tide.

If the formation of the steps is at a triangle shape, when the ship is level with the quayside these points would then be very difficult to walk on. 

I think the triangle has a broad flat top on it and also if you have a close look, you will see where the checkered aluminium plate has been bent to form the shape and then riveted to the next piece.  The best people would be either Shipmates60 or PShips to give a better answer/description.

Here's my interpretation  8)

aye
john
bluebird
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: John W E on May 14, 2007, 09:13:43 pm
 ;D ;D ;D....and bluebird does a scribble
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: Shipmate60 on May 14, 2007, 09:59:48 pm
There are literally hundres of different brows.
The simplest is a plank with 2 x 2's nailed in. Even these can get quite complicated with handrails and a cantilever end to compensate for rise and fall.
RN ships tend to use this type without a cantilever and made out of aluminium with aluminium handrails.

Bob
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: PSSHIPS on May 14, 2007, 10:00:21 pm
In Bluebird's sketch, the top bit of drawing is the correct shape of one of those brows.
 Paul...
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: slewis on May 14, 2007, 10:20:16 pm
What happened to sliding down the steps without using the steps themselves ! ;D ;D
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: PSSHIPS on May 14, 2007, 11:57:29 pm
Because Shane dear boy, if you do that while facing the ladder you may end up with a black and blue end, never mind a red one! ;D
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: colin-stevens on May 15, 2007, 01:24:07 pm
cheers guys, agree with all of you, especialy dicky, "dont stare at thingsd for too long or you start to see things."
what you have all said i have already drawn up and started to make. great fun! not.
colin
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: colin-stevens on May 16, 2007, 09:09:14 pm
thanks guys, been busy cutting, measuring ang gluing. finnaly reasonably happy. picces here but the dont realy show much. but he, ho.
colin
Title: Re: making a ships brow
Post by: polaris on May 25, 2007, 01:16:53 pm

Dear Colin,

Nice job. Being no expert in building they look fine. The original p.graphs you posted indicate to me that the treads can be used whichever way they are placed ('treads' being 'duplicated'), so there is no 'fixed' direction of use - thus quick and easy usage/placement.

Regards, Bernard