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Title: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: waxy on February 14, 2013, 08:35:27 PM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2wohz7t.jpg)
 
hopefully have time this weekend to start on my 1:100 scale fiesta ferry,
the original plan was to build the hull from wood and the top half from styrene to give it good stability in the water but i've now decided to build the hull from styrene to so thats put me back a couple of weeks as i've had to re-draw the hull plans,
the model will be 5ft long, 1ft wide and 1ft above the waterline, on a scale model this size the hull should be 6cm below the waterline but my model will be 8cm, not much difference but a little more stable.
the hull will also be a much more simpler shape to what it should be as this is my first build and the real hull looks very complex.
i've got two 4x5ft sheets of 1.5mm styrene to start me off(29 the pair) but might need some thicker stuff for strengthening then i'll probably use 1mm for the skin.
as the build goes along i'll post updates and pics on this thread and as its my first build feel free to give me hints, tips and advise.
 
 
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: Norseman on February 14, 2013, 09:07:57 PM
Thanks for choosing a ferry to build Waxy  :-))
Not enough of them being attempted.

Dave
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: carlmt on February 14, 2013, 11:04:19 PM
Excellent choice Waxy  :-)) :-)) :-))
 
Going to settle down and watch this one grow with interest......(whilst still working on the others, I promise!!)
 
Dave - hopefully not for too much longer mate  ok2
 
Carl
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: Norseman on February 14, 2013, 11:26:48 PM
Hey no problem at all Carl  :}

Dave
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: Norseman on February 15, 2013, 12:00:43 AM
Wasn't there a sister ship that sank on the maiden voyage?
Zenobar or something odd like that?

Dave
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: waxy on February 15, 2013, 12:08:50 AM
Zenobia, computer fault filled up the ballast tanks on one side causing her to capsize. The 3rd sister is the fantasia
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: wartsilaone on February 15, 2013, 01:14:46 AM
Hi Waxy,


Good decision on making you hull slightly deeper, this will help massively.
For the frames, I would use thicker styrene, 1.5 mm at least. The stingers should be the same. Don't worry about weight as you'll probably find that you need extra ballast once built. 
I haven't tried using the plastic in the same way as you would use wood so I couldn't predict how it would turn out but I wish you good look and I'll sure be watching this thread closely.


I would suggest using a jig to build you hull. The plastic will try to bend and distort in all kinds of ways while you are applying the skin.


Attached photo is the frames of the Norsea. You may be able to see them trying to twist a little.


Ali
     
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: cos918 on February 15, 2013, 06:35:00 PM
Loo foward to this. Wise move to increase the draft by 20mm.
Are you going to get the bow vissor working?

John
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: waxy on February 15, 2013, 07:18:59 PM
would be nice to have things like a working bow door, lights, spinning radar ect but as im just a novice i'll keep it simple, if however this project turns out ok and i decide to build another ferry(sally lines sky maybe) then i should have the confidence to go in to more detail  :-)
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: waxy on February 15, 2013, 07:22:21 PM
thanks for the photo ali, yes i can see the framework trying to warp, i may need to build a jig or maybe add a few strips of timber to the inside for strength
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: waxy on February 15, 2013, 07:48:09 PM
apart from getting hand ache after a while styrene is easy to work with, this 1.5mm sheet takes 3 or4 strokes of the blade to cut through and can be done indoors without any agro :-))
 
i'm finding it better than being in the garden with a jigsaw cutting wood in the middle of winter
 
(http://i46.tinypic.com/es7m92.jpg)
Title: Re: seafrance fiesta/cezanne build
Post by: waxy on February 15, 2013, 07:52:09 PM
just a few shapes i've cut out today, only about 7000 more
 
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2yo69m8.jpg)