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Title: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on February 17, 2013, 03:53:49 pm
Hi all,
 
Well after getting myself an Eldergarth, pre-built, I've sorted out some of the Wiring and given her a little sail this afternoon:
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab88/adamgoodin/Eldergarth10_zpsb293dfd5.jpg)
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab88/adamgoodin/Eldergarth11_zpsd5b7b758.jpg)
 
 The boat did well overall, but as you might be able to make out, sits quite low in the water at her bow, so I think I need to get a lighter 12v battery and then just trim where needed.
 
 Fully working, with Lights, working Winch, Bow Thruster and steerable korts as some of you will know.
 
The lights do work, but I only tested them quickly as I still need to set up the 6v system for them:
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab88/adamgoodin/Eldergarth8_zps17e97f97.jpg)
 
She shipped a bit of water earlier so something isn't quite watertight somewhere!  %)
 
I'll be taking it along to Ellesemere port, after which, she'll have a good revamp and repaint ready for better weather!
 
Comments welcomed  :-)
 
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Norseman on February 17, 2013, 07:45:02 pm
I see you changed the deck colour - better  O0

Dave
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on February 17, 2013, 08:18:16 pm
Thanks Dave,
 
Do you mean the Fore or Aft deck?  :-)
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Norseman on February 18, 2013, 11:51:41 am
It was just an afterthought  {-)

Dave
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on February 18, 2013, 12:16:02 pm
 %% Oh dear - it's only Monday Dave!  {-)
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on February 18, 2013, 04:03:01 pm
Looks great in cory(rea's) colours! Will you be at the sat night sailing to show off the lights? You best be ready to have a tow when your there mate

Gav
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on February 18, 2013, 07:01:09 pm
Hi Gav, apart from a quick paint job on the decks, it's stopping as it is for now.
 
 Yeah I'm stopping for the Night sail no bother  :-))  It's ready to tow - ropes and whatever else are ready!
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on February 18, 2013, 07:09:31 pm
I have just got myself into sanding the outer bulwarks of my tug putting new paint job on it and fitting loads of tyres so it looks like the actual tug
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on February 18, 2013, 07:14:12 pm
Should look a cracker that - get some pics up  :-))
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on February 18, 2013, 07:20:40 pm

(http://s11.postimage.org/nz85nse0f/image.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nz85nse0f/)

(http://s11.postimage.org/q52giahgv/image.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/q52giahgv/)


Hope this works
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on February 18, 2013, 08:44:57 pm
Very nice mate.  :-))
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on February 18, 2013, 09:09:41 pm
Ta mate! Will look better in a week lol
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: scoobydoo2 on February 20, 2013, 10:16:49 pm
Don't forget to get a 6v battery for those lights m8t or you will be drawing in light aircraft if you leave them on 12v  {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on February 20, 2013, 10:45:32 pm
Hahaha if he puts them on at Ellesmere Port the planes for Liverpool airport will try and land on the canal
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on February 21, 2013, 10:18:54 am
...is that why we say "Plane sailing" .....  %) %% :o
 
...I'll get me coat!
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on February 21, 2013, 10:35:23 am
Hahahahahaha taxi is waiting hahahahahah
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on February 21, 2013, 08:55:04 pm
Re-painted the Afterdeck green again - but a better shade this time - tidied it up and it already looks a lot better. Just need to give the Forward Decks a good re-paint now and it'll look rather nice me thinks.
 Red or Green for the forward decks? I think Red forward, Green Aft.
 
Leaving the Superstructure as it is - it looks like a working boat as the white paint has ever so slightly dulled. Question - is there a supplier who can do an "R" big enough for the logo? Or is it a plasticard job?
 
 Either the above or I'm thinking I may go my own way with the colour scheme...thoughts?
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Norseman on February 21, 2013, 08:57:50 pm
Do your thing Do your thing
Sorry had that song running in my head
Please no booty shaking %)

Dave
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on February 21, 2013, 09:11:26 pm
Dave there will be no Booty shaking in this thread  %)   {-)  Just the subtle tones of Fleetwood Mac and some Blues/Rock guitar riffs from many legends like Dave Gilmour for example - that should get me through these boat builds!
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 08:03:09 pm
Eldergarth enjoyed her outing at Ellesmere  :-))
 
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab88/adamgoodin/Ellesmereport2_zpscf0b2b95.jpg)
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab88/adamgoodin/Ellesmereport1_zpsc0a0626f.jpg)
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab88/adamgoodin/Ellesmereport9_zpsa74254b8.jpg)
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab88/adamgoodin/Ellesmereport10_zps957a2161.jpg)
 
Thanks guys - had a fantastic time  :-))
 
... infact, I had such a good time i'm looking at a new Tug build and a possible Tow to go with! (but what tug, and what tow?)
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 04, 2013, 08:32:40 pm
Defo not my norton Hahahahaha
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 08:38:31 pm
 ok2  Ok Gav - not your Norton ..... (yet)  {-)
 
 No I'm fancying a new build, or something that may be for sale for a decent price! Something along the lines of Svitzer's Ormesby Cross etc
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: scoobydoo2 on March 04, 2013, 08:53:19 pm
Got to agree with adam it was a brilliant day & with the added bonus of buying a new tug  :-)) :-)) :-)) .
Chris.
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 04, 2013, 08:57:39 pm
Yet haha  :-)) am guna get a mmb asd hull maybe build a svitzer nari or make it as a smit tug maybe
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 09:00:50 pm
Wondered when you might mention your new Tug Chris -  :-))  It's a nice looking tug mind.
 
 Go for it Gav - do a Smit tug, don't see a lot around lately. Nice colour scheme I think.
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 04, 2013, 09:20:28 pm
Haha Chris thinks he's 1 of the boys now haha just joking mate!

Ye got a couple of ideas for colour schemes just do something a little different than just svitzer colours!
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: ministeve on March 04, 2013, 09:23:22 pm
that ormsby is a very big tug take a look at ,alcubar,nangee,or a bit bigger afon alaw,portgarth,dutch courage ,smit polen there are lots my personal fav combo is twin 60mm or 70mm props on stearable korts working winch maybe bow thruster my advice to you ad is come along to the next tug towing event and try as many tugs you can we all will be only too glad to help that applies to anyone that fancies a go just come see me i will get the ball rolling .
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: scoobydoo2 on March 04, 2013, 09:26:46 pm
Hi Gav .I have no idea regarding a new colour scheme yet BUT I'll soon be sorted bud i'm out this week practicing towing  :embarrassed: :embarrassed: 
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 04, 2013, 09:32:57 pm
I agree with Steve his svitzer powerful is brilliant and to be fair when it works my norton is as good it's powerful enuff but not stupid and with the bowthruster is so manoeuverable!! Anythin bigger than your eldergarth is hard to get around the courses with the tow!

Good on you Chris that's all I done when I first started went as many tug tows as possible and teamed up with Steve and mike and they showed me the way! I had only ever done life size towing haha
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 09:50:09 pm
Cheers lads - I think Chris will agree that were both more than up for coming along to your next meet for a bit of Towing. Just let us know when you plan to meet and we'll make the trip over!  :-))
 
So - maybe i'll go for a Portgarth build. I quite like the size of the Eldergarth - but as appealing as the bigger boats are - I can see that manoeverability may become harder to acheive when you have a larger boat. Puts pilot skills to the test though  {-) O0
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 04, 2013, 09:58:15 pm
I think it might be up balne Moore mate not sure tho am sure Steve will tell u!! Portgarth is a great tug and looks good as a model!
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 10:01:27 pm
Cheers Gav. I'm looking at something that serves local to me, a Middlesbrough or Tyne based tug.
 
Could maybe look at Phoenix Cross? It's getting the plans and scaling down etc that would be a pain in the neck!
 
 So until I'm used to towing, maybe Portgarth would be a sensible option and I can move to better, more detailed scratch builds later on.  O0
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: chipchase on March 04, 2013, 10:07:58 pm
 This one makes into a great model Adam she used to be on the Tyne and also at Middlesbrough. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 10:10:45 pm
Which one, Phoenix Cross or Portgarth?  ;)
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: chipchase on March 04, 2013, 10:11:43 pm
sorry Adam had a prob with photo
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 04, 2013, 10:14:03 pm
Chipchase the maltby hull is a monster hahahaha if I had space wouldn't mind 1 like haha
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Norseman on March 04, 2013, 10:14:34 pm
I'd like to see someone build a decent sized BRAtt  O0
http://www.towingline.com/archives/816

Dave
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 10:15:21 pm
 %)  There she is!  {-)
 
 Hmm I like that - looks rather Stocky and ready to pack a punch! Thanks  :-))   Make for a large model I imagine?
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Norseman on March 04, 2013, 10:20:42 pm
http://www.towingline.com/archives/654
The pix enlarge a bit
Dave
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 04, 2013, 10:22:46 pm
I want a full size version it looks boss!! Ad be like a big kid on the river with her
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: chipchase on March 04, 2013, 10:23:12 pm
Chipchase the maltby hull is a monster hahahaha if I had space wouldn't mind 1 like haha
she is only 38in long Adam]
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 04, 2013, 10:30:31 pm
It would sink everything in its path
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 10:32:14 pm
38" LOA isn't to bad me thinks  O0
 
 I like that little BRAtt !  :o :-))
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Norseman on March 04, 2013, 10:36:54 pm
http://www.ral.ca/news/2006/2006-05-19d.html  :}
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: chipchase on March 04, 2013, 10:41:33 pm
 If they get in her way
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 10:45:46 pm
Lovely looking Tug - is there a hull available for this? and plans?  :-)
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: chipchase on March 04, 2013, 10:50:54 pm
yep  :-))  I built the plug Adam, Tyne models sell the hull and plan plus about 150 detailed photos of her, Steve has one when he gets time to build her ha ha
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: chipchase on March 04, 2013, 10:55:56 pm
here is a photo of the hull Adam
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 11:04:37 pm
Guess who might be making some calls...  %)   Thanks Chipchase  :-))
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 04, 2013, 11:11:49 pm
If I had a slight bit of the talent as chipchase to build the model I would the completed pic earlier is amazing!
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: chipchase on March 04, 2013, 11:17:06 pm
Thanks Gav
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 04, 2013, 11:21:07 pm
I have to agree actually, the modelling there is superb. Lets hope I can do it some justice - even just a little bit!
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 05, 2013, 10:28:16 am
http://www.ral.ca/news/2006/2006-05-19d.html (http://www.ral.ca/news/2006/2006-05-19d.html)  :}

Smart Tug  :-))
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 05, 2013, 11:18:05 am
Since were on the subject of Svitzer Tugs...
 
 What are the closest paint matches for their colours? OR what do "you" use?
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 05, 2013, 11:50:28 am
Al let Steve Ansa that I got confused haha
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: ministeve on March 05, 2013, 02:10:09 pm
chip you are a bounder i am gona have to start mine now lol looks great mate  :-))
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: ministeve on March 05, 2013, 02:42:05 pm
the blue is called steel blue or starl blu and wheelhouse is manilla
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 05, 2013, 03:02:52 pm
 :-))  Thanks Steve much appreciated
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 06, 2013, 04:54:57 pm
Quick question on the Svitzer Maltby - regarding Towing...
 
 Are Shottles ok for Tug Towing? if so, what would you recommend, as I have never used shottles on a model before now.
If not - i'll put conventional Prop shafts in.  :-))
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: Tuggy Gav on March 06, 2013, 05:10:17 pm
Never used shottles but they have good control but don't think they have enough power!! As Steve says 60/70mm korts and props and a bowthruster!!
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: tugnut on March 06, 2013, 07:41:48 pm
Hi all that picture of the MALTBY looks great Very nice job Brian O0
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: pdryden on March 10, 2013, 07:48:40 am
Quick question on the Svitzer Maltby - regarding Towing...
 
 Are Shottles ok for Tug Towing? if so, what would you recommend, as I have never used shottles on a model before now.
If not - i'll put conventional Prop shafts in.  :-))




Chipchase Built his own Schottel drives for the Maltby and they work a treat giving not only a powerful thrust but also the ability to turn in its own length.
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: adamD98 on March 10, 2013, 09:50:34 pm
I'm still terrified of shottles on a Tug that will be used for towing, when they have plastic gearing.
 
 Regards to the Eldergarth - What are "your" thoughts on me re-painting and doing her as the Rowan when she served the Tees and Tyne?
I think i'm quite likely to do this, just wondered what you all thought.
Title: Re: Eldergarth
Post by: ian-mccaffrey on May 05, 2013, 06:22:11 pm
here is a picture of my eldergarth as she is now . and renamed  "shannon "