you wouldn't put something that didn't belong on one of your boats even if it looked OK.
but it isn't perfection.
Surely rules are made to be broken, how do we advance anything if we stay within the guidelines given to us by others. I give you the Impressionist movement as a prime example. Considered way beyond what was acceptable at the time, now we paint through a stencil on a bit of wall and that's art!
I don't give a stuff about rules and regs sailorboy......to me it's an excellent picture....who gives a stuff about rules and regs if it's immensly pleasing to my eyes.
Try telling me that when I am booking you for speeding, illogical %% %% {-) {-) {-) {-)
RULES provide order from chaos O0 O0 O0
You can't always trust the camera Dave. I took some local pictures last week of the trees on a hill all covered with snow. It was just like fairyland. But because it was so white the camera underexposed the scene and I had to use Photoshop to bring it back to what it actually looked like.
Also, you can take photos in a badly lit model boat exhibition and they all come out too dark. Photoshop allows you to bring out the missing detail and show you what you actually saw.
Colin
RULES provide order from chaos
ok you lot. <*<
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and in Neils eyes he is quite correct in his statement.
How can you tell him otherwise, you don't have his eyes.
Just because you think its not to your liking (or rules) doesn't make you right and Neil wrong.
You both could be right, both wrong, or beg to differ, doesn't change how Neil see's it.
I better grab ma hat, ma coat, and skeedadle under the door :-))
cheers
vnkiwi %)
I have to agree. Most of the post photo digital work carried out on a PC could be achieved in a dark room .I submitted contact prints, a selection was made and the rest was down to the work in the dark room. On occasions the editor would include notes requesting this or that photo, cropped, features highlighted, contrast adjusted. It was a messy procedure and the bathroom was often full of prints drying off .
I would like to make the point that in pre-digital days a good photographer had access to a dark-room where some of the techniques that are used in photoshop could be carried out manually, cropping, altering exposures, colouring, using filters etc etc etc...... Not all great photos you see from pre-digital days are as they were taken straight out of the camera..... Digital procedures are often based on earlier non digital ones.....
Neil and vnkiwi, Would you mind confirming that we are all looking at the same image please, because I'm starting to have some doubts?
Andy(http://s20.postimage.org/rg1qybnd9/Neil_Photo.jpg)
Neil's 'perfect' photo? Really?
I think it's just an average pic too if that helps?
Oh interesting this so can someone explain to me therfore why there is need to edit and photoshop as every camera these days has a histogram and if you can not read it to define if the appeture is correct then it is time to hang up the camera...my pics never get editted as I used to use film and slide and mistakes were very costly.When you used to use film and slide you had to get everything right,so why cant you do it now.Because it's easier ...."click" and there's your masterpiece. Seemples. Or not.....BY.
Dave
I think it's just an average pic too if that helps?
I edit all my photos as I only shoot in RAW format which do need editing to be able to view them properly but the results are far better than capturing in JPEG. I also enjoy the process of editing to produce the result I want and not what the camera or one click software thinks I want. But hey, each to their own :-)
That is a very relevant point, as well as, what you see in the photo may not be what was actually shot, but the final result.
Some glass plate negs have so much crisp clear detail that its unbelievable for such old equipment
vnkiwi
Surely you're not suggesting some photos may not actually be real !
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8235/8471874310_cca90489e9_b.jpg)
It is still my favourite ribbonMick in ribbons :o .......... now that would be a classic O0