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Mess Deck: General Section => Full Scale Ships => Topic started by: livesteam on February 26, 2013, 04:08:31 pm

Title: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: livesteam on February 26, 2013, 04:08:31 pm
Hello


Is there any information about the real SS Talacre available? I mean the coaster who was prototype for the Caldercraft kit. Any pics or plans are very welcome!
Thanks!
Cheers, Kaspar
Title: Re: SS Talcre: Prototype info requested
Post by: hmsantrim on February 26, 2013, 07:23:34 pm
 
 Hi kaspar.
                   
The SS Talacre is a typical single hatch coaster used in the coal trade of a type that was found by the hundreds around the coast of the U.K. in the golden era of steam. Designed for Point of Ayr Collieries by Crichton, Thompson & Co Ltd., of London she was built by Crabtree &Co., of Great Yarmouth in 1917. Talacre was named after a small village near the colliery. Talacre was finally scraped in 1959 by the Hammond Lane Foundry in Dublin.
 
 same boat different name http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/search.asp?k=+kyle+rhea&x=21&y=12 (http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/search.asp?k=+kyle+rhea&x=21&y=12)
 
                 Frank 
 
 
Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 26, 2013, 09:28:09 pm

Very interesting as I have just acquired the Talacre kit myself.

Ken


Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: mikearace on February 26, 2013, 10:25:44 pm
The original Talacre
Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: Liverbudgie on February 26, 2013, 10:46:43 pm
 A least we now know for certain which way round the bridge was.
LB
Title: Re: SS Talcre: Prototype info requested
Post by: Neil on February 26, 2013, 10:55:27 pm

 Hi kaspar.
                   
The SS Talacre is a typical single hatch coaster used in the coal trade of a type that was found by the hundreds around the coast of the U.K. in the golden era of steam. Designed for Point of Ayr Collieries by Crichton, Thompson & Co Ltd., of London she was built by Crabtree &Co., of Great Yarmouth in 1917. Talacre was named after a small village near the colliery. Talacre was finally scraped in 1959 by the Hammond Lane Foundry in Dublin.
 
 same boat different name http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/search.asp?k=+kyle+rhea&x=21&y=12 (http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/search.asp?k=+kyle+rhea&x=21&y=12)
 
                 Frank

Frank, I think that Kyle Rae was in fact originally called the "Todd Head", where as Talacre was originally called "Doris Thomas".....two different ships.
Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: livesteam on February 27, 2013, 07:08:38 am
The original Talacre


 :-))  very nice photo, thanks!
Title: Re: SS Talcre: Prototype info requested
Post by: livesteam on February 27, 2013, 07:55:04 am

Frank, I think that Kyle Rae was in fact originally called the "Todd Head", where as Talacre was originally called "Doris Thomas".....two different ships.


Sorry to correct you, but "Doris Thomas" was renamed "Ben Ain", which which  you might know from the Mountfleet Models kit.
Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: Neil on February 27, 2013, 09:03:15 am
quite correct, on reflection but still think that Kyle and Talacre weren't the same ships...........sadly I have sold my Coasters and short sea traders by Thomas, so can't verify it...............but again, stand to be corrected.
Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: livesteam on February 27, 2013, 09:13:24 am
I agree, according to the picture of Kyle at myhobbystore, it's not the same as Talacre!
Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: Tankerman on June 08, 2013, 04:44:39 pm
I have only just noticed this thread but thought you would like to know that the "Talacre" only ever carried that name all her life from 1917 to 1959.


Chris
Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: Positive on June 09, 2013, 11:29:39 am
Here is another picture of the Talacre:
http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships/Old%20Ships%20T/slides/Talacre-02.jpg
Bob
Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 14, 2013, 01:38:01 pm

Hi Bob,

Yes, this is the photo I have built mine to represent. It was the only one I could find on the whole Web.

The Caldercraft version does have the bridge house incorrectly positioned which looked odd, so I've tried to reproduce the above photo as best I could, considering it was lacking in the finer details.

Cheers

ken

Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: Positive on June 14, 2013, 09:25:57 pm
The plans of Talacre are shown on Page 92 of The Steam Collier Fleets by C V Waine.    Originally the bridge was open, but by the 1930s, a wheelhouse had been added with a flying bridge on top of it.   The original and modified designs are both shown on the same page.
Bob
Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: superqualicast on July 25, 2013, 06:17:12 am
Thanks Positive for image link.
Title: Re: SS Talacre: Prototype info requested
Post by: roycv on July 28, 2015, 11:04:12 am
Hello Positive any chance of a scan of the bridge drawings? 
I have just bought a Talacre needing a lot of TLC and would like to correct the bridge structure.  I have printed off the previous photos of changes but a plan is nice to have.
regards Roy