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Mess Deck: General Section => Full Scale Ships => Topic started by: tigertiger on March 07, 2013, 03:44:59 am

Title: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: tigertiger on March 07, 2013, 03:44:59 am
These beasts will need new docks to be constructed because they are so large.
No ports in N or S America are able to take them yet.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/06/triple-e-container-ship-europe (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/06/triple-e-container-ship-europe)
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: Peter Fitness on March 07, 2013, 03:59:16 am
Imagine the flexing of the hull that will occur in a rough sea, although I'm sure the designers will have factored that in.


Peter.
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: Capt Jack on March 07, 2013, 10:02:29 pm
First triple e is already built, goes on sea trials late May.  Built in the Daewoo yard South Korea.
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: Netleyned on March 08, 2013, 04:06:52 pm
Told you
Acrylic  does not like an enamel undercoat.  :D :D :D

Ned
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: sailorboy61 on March 08, 2013, 04:11:42 pm
Which is why these little ladies, as opposed to the Emma maersk class, have moved the engine back aft to do away with the super long propshaft and all the inherent problems.
 
I wonder if they have revised aft thruster tunnels to avoid the incident that the Emma had at Suez a few weeks ago!!
 
http://www.worldslargestship.com/ (http://www.worldslargestship.com/)
 
Imagine the flexing of the hull that will occur in a rough sea, although I'm sure the designers will have factored that in.


Peter.
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: Capt Jack on March 08, 2013, 07:06:42 pm
Which is why these little ladies, as opposed to the Emma maersk class, have moved the engine back aft to do away with the super long propshaft and all the inherent problems.
 
I wonder if they have revised aft thruster tunnels to avoid the incident that the Emma had at Suez a few weeks ago!!
 
http://www.worldslargestship.com/ (http://www.worldslargestship.com/)


The triple e's are twin screw with two completely separate engine rooms.
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: dave301bounty on March 08, 2013, 07:42:22 pm
Think the new container berth being dredged out now off gladson,this has a bead on the new big boys ,and yes they have twin engines two e rooms and a very clever method on the stability ..in this monthe Nautilus mag
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: PW569 on March 08, 2013, 09:23:41 pm

Completely seperate engine rooms?

A wise decision looking at the flooding of the EMMA MAERSK engine room in the Suez canal only recently, with 6.000 or more containers requiring discharge to tow her to the yard in Italy for repair! Close call that one!

It always will grow bigger...22.000 TEU being projected now.

But, it could not get any smaller than 1 TEU:

(http://www.deepcreekyachtclub.com/WebPage/images/WorldsSmallestContainerShip.JPG)
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: deadwood on April 08, 2013, 05:24:51 pm
But, it could not get any smaller than 1 TEU

Depends if you read TEU as Ten Foot Equivalent Unit too.


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Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: baloo on April 08, 2013, 07:29:56 pm
And ther was me thinking it would fit in at felixstowe or thamesport ! oop`s
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: Bryan Young on April 09, 2013, 06:13:39 pm
As an (ex) ship driver.....just how far ahead of the ship can be seen from the bridge?
From that photo I reckon that anything ahead less than 3 miles will be invisible. Perhaps it would be more sensible to put the Nav. bridge right up on what used to be called the fo'c'sle.
Imagine bringing in one of these monsters into (for example) Southampton. All well and good using "Blind Pilotage" (ie Radar), but that isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Nothing beats the Mk.1 eyeball! BY.
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: superqualicast on August 23, 2013, 06:24:28 am
Good images of container ships shared over here. I first time show the boat which carried container.
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: Neil on August 23, 2013, 10:39:28 am
Imagine the flexing of the hull that will occur in a rough sea, although I'm sure the designers will have factored that in.


Peter.
the way they build their cars, Peter wouldn't bet 2 bob on them in a force 3, lol
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: gondolier88 on August 23, 2013, 08:34:13 pm
As an (ex) ship driver.....just how far ahead of the ship can be seen from the bridge?
From that photo I reckon that anything ahead less than 3 miles will be invisible. Perhaps it would be more sensible to put the Nav. bridge right up on what used to be called the fo'c'sle.
Imagine bringing in one of these monsters into (for example) Southampton. All well and good using "Blind Pilotage" (ie Radar), but that isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Nothing beats the Mk.1 eyeball! BY.


A great question Bryan- perhaps the use of cameras in other forms of transport is now filtering into bridge design too? Imagine the pitching you would get being at the bow of this boat- I can see why they would want the bridge midships!


Greg
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 23, 2013, 08:55:20 pm
There are cameras and radar mounted on the foremast to cover the blind spots but, as Bryan says, probably no real substitute for the Mk1 eyeball.
Colin
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: html on August 23, 2013, 09:16:08 pm
The new container port being built on the Thames is being built to take these ships, with the size of the roads being built from the terminal I think they are expecting to be busy. http://www.londongateway.com/ (http://www.londongateway.com/)
 
Brian
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: -Martin- on August 23, 2013, 09:19:44 pm
As an (ex) ship driver.....just how far ahead of the ship can be seen from the bridge?
From that photo I reckon that anything ahead less than 3 miles will be invisible. Perhaps it would be more sensible to put the Nav. bridge right up on what used to be called the fo'c'sle.
Imagine bringing in one of these monsters into (for example) Southampton. All well and good using "Blind Pilotage" (ie Radar), but that isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Nothing beats the Mk.1 eyeball! BY.

IMO visibility criterion require the water surface to be visible from the bridge 2xLOA or 500 meters ahead of the ship, whichever is less.
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: wugamumtafish on October 05, 2013, 07:58:38 pm
Just watched a documentary on the building of the first. 38 weeks start to finsh!
Title: Re: New Triple E container ships.
Post by: imsinking on October 05, 2013, 11:19:14 pm
Just watched a documentary on the building of the first. 38 weeks start to finsh!
37 weeks ? ABSOLUTE NONSENSE  >>:-( the directors not showing all the graft to construct the sections (blocks) dont forget these will be outfitted ready to go in to join the next block . . . you dont do that in 5 minutes . . . it'd been more believable if they'd said ASSEMBLED in 37 weeks. . .  & if that gentleman had spoken to me the same way he did to the Korean guys over delays  <*<  we would've been having words . . . .
Did you see the camera shots of the longditudinal corridor in rough weather ? that ship must have been twisting 1 - 2 metres over the length of the ship in bad weather & these are bigger still . . . .
Bill (in & around shipbuilding for 40 years  %% )