Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: DarrenCarter2 on April 02, 2013, 07:27:53 pm
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Hello there
I'm new to the forum but I have been doing boats a few years now a few people from west Wales model boat club no me as I normally just put my build logs on there but I thought I'd give the forum a go ( first of all if I make spelling mistakes or use short text I'm sorry that's how I write its habit lol )
After finishing a fishing boat I was building full wooden hull kit I was brought the puffer as a birthday present :) I have made some progress I have had her about two months now I work quiet slow normally because I'm fussy if it don't look right I rip it apart and do it again lol here's some of the pics of her so far she will eventually run on a decaperm 6v, sound unit smoke unit and I'm still thinking about the lights I no the real Clyde's had oil lanterns but I don't no either to go straight for normal LEDs or not
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hi Darren
its mick i followed your build of the fishing boat and she looks fantastic mate :-))
hope all goes as well with the Clyde puffer. looking good so far ok2
there are a lot of people on hear that will offer help and advice during the build mate great bunch of guy's and gall's.
take a look at the Master class section there is a clyde puffer on there and it is a fantastic build might help with ideas for your clyde'
regards
mick
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Having trouble uploading rest of pics
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You might like to only post 5 pictures at a time. This will reduce the loading time for each posting. (it will also increase your Post's total to enable you to advertise an item in the 'for sale' dept .)
Ken
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Here's some more having trouble with pics
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Here's my finished trawler :)
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Very nice indeed. Well done. :-))
Ken
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Thank u ken and mick hopefully the puffer will b as good I am going to be doing lots of detailing on the clyde so should be good fun :)
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looking great darren. :-))
you will soon catch up with my puffer lol
if i remember right yours is 1/32nd scale mate and mine is 1/24th
keep up the good work ;)
regards
mick
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I painted and weathered the rowing boat I still have a lot of work to do to it but thought I would upload two pictures of it I like to jump from part to part I get bit board working on one item :)
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Darren , you have a PM.
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Hi there I have done a bit more on the rowing boat and it is now complete I'm really happy with how this build is going so far :) I'm going to finish the hatch next, hope every one likes the pictures so far :)
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:)
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Have you thought of a name for it yet ? Northlight is ficticious O0 :o
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Hi
I used Hunter Systems flickering oil lamp simulator on my puffer.
Joe
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Hi arrow no I haven't thought of a name yet and to be honest others than fitting the rudder shaft bulkheads and rear part the deck I haven't done anything else to the hull I have been working on hatch cover and rowing boat which I have nearly finished, I'm having trouble with up loading pictures it says there to big can any one advise on this I do everything through my iPhone.
Boat captain can u help point me in the right direction on where to buy one of these hunter systems, also can u advise on how many LEDs u can run on the system.
I have loads of pictures to upload but I can't work out y they won't upload is there a way of resizing my pictures???
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You will need gow lamps to use with flicker units.
Apart from Hunter, Action do a flicker as well.
I think LEDs are not much use on period vessel models.
Ned
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Have you thought of a name for it yet ? Northlight is ficticious O0 :o
Vitalight. And contact the makers for some advertising revenue :D
Ned
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Hi Darren
You can look on line just enter Hunter Systems Models. Each unit will operate 3x12 volt grain of wheat lamps on a 6 volt battery leds are not suitable. They look very realistic.
Joe
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Hunter and Action are listed on the forums traders page.
Why go elsewhere?
Ned
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Boat captin so way I understand that is 1 unit has 3 units inside so one unit can run 12 6v grain of wheat bulbs on a 6v lead acid
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And netleyned I don't personally like action stuff last time I tried emailing and talking to guy at show I found him quite arrogant and wouldn't buy there stuff with some one else's money not alone my own just personal opinion before someone has a go at me
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As someone once said
Suit yourself.
Ned
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Boat captin so way I understand that is 1 unit has 3 units inside so one unit can run 12 6v grain of wheat bulbs on a 6v lead acid
No Darren one unit will operate 3 12 volt grain of wheat lamps with a 6 volt battery.
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Darren
Here is the information that you require about re-sizing pictures.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23.msg36.html#msg36
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thanks tug kenny
heres some pics still work in progress and still a lot painting to do but its getting there im going to add pics in stages
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lookin realy good mate :-))
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brilliant and detailed build. Looking fantastic. keep up the good work O0
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Thanks guys I'm still learning techniques and I'm trying to learn to weather my boats more this is my first attempt I normally let my boat naturally weather with use :)
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I just got my hands on a decaperm now so I can crack on with the hull and the placement of everything when it arrives :)
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... is that shipmate helping himself?!! :police:
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No lol I won it on eBay but its got to come from Germany :) looks brand new tho every time I have looked at one they have been out my budget or I just missed out on them but this time I got lucky its just trying to work out if I will have enough room for everything I have go the foggy unit fitted but I still have a sound system and two lead acids and the normal radio gear to go in lol
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Hi Darren
The build is looking great, keep the photo's coming
Cheers
Steve
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Thank u carisma
I have just finished painting and weathering most of the winch I'm going to be getting a lot more done on Sunday so I should be able to post some more pics then also I have just had my decaperm arrive from Germany lovely little eBay find seller listed as new Royal Mail delivered today and its brand spanking still in the original box :) one happy chappy cosidering I only paid £62 and that was with postage :)
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Ouch, sharp intake of breath, I would have gone for a brushless motor and speed controller at much less. <:( Just my opinion. Got a name for her yet ?
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Yeah but then when u think arrow a new decaperm is £135 don't get me wrong i have used brushless in fast electrics and other types boats but u just can't beat a brushed motor especially a decaperm I no understand y my dad said there so good we fitted it in hull today and runs so smooth worth every penny :)
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heres some pictures of the decaperm as it arrived and fitted :}
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heres some pictures of the decaperm as it arrived and fitted :}
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my dad fabricated a brass bit for the rudder for me as the standard white metal one is a bit rubbish and they wanted it super glued i wanted something i could solder on so i wouldnt have any trouble at the lake side when shes finished
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I do have a lot more pics to up load just running low on time at moment
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Here's a pic of the part and the original
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started painting the winch and weathered it to im going to add some oil or grease when its finished completly
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still some more bits to add but most of it is completed im quite happy with how the build is going so far still lots to do hope u enjoy the pictures
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I have done quite a bit more on the puffer sorry I haven't updated for a long time
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some more
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You have weathering skills i can only dream of . I assume you are using oil paints there ?
Keep up the good work , looks fantastic .
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Hi Darren,
When you are in Los Angeles, California could you please stop by and weather the Envoy that I am currently building. {-) {-) {-) Your weathering is fantastic. Keep up the great work. :-)) :-)) :-))
Cheers,
Iran Ausley
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Thank u guys its getting there slowly I'm in the middle of looking for a new job moving house hopefully soon and getting married in three weeks so everything's all over the place lol
This is actually the first boat of mine I have ever weathered really my last build a plank on frame trawler I didn't weather, I brought a book called the art of weathering its mainly a model railway book and there's not many pictures in it but it does explain some good technics :)
Cjcj121. I don't use humbrol paints this is always a sore subject with my dad as he doesn't see the point in weathering or what types of paint to use lol and only uses humbrol paints I undercoat everything with Grey undercoat from halfords but the paints I use are games workshop citadel paints and Tamiya Acrylic paints I am very picky about how paint goes on I find humbrol paint goes on too thick and u can't get it smooth enough with out a lot of work after things are completely painted I go over them with spray can purity sealer but Matt type just to stop any paint chips :) hope this helps
Ir3 I would love to come to the states that's one of places I would love to go in my life America but its just expensive to get there :(
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So I have spent quite bit of time working on the puffer this week I have now finished the hatch cover and the cabin is finished I'm just waiting for one little extra part I have ordered to go with it all the rigging on the cabin is complete, got quite a bit of work still to do on the hull but she's slowly getting there I'm happy with how she's coming together :) here's a pic of my trawler I completed before starting puffer my first plank on frame boat
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Cracking work, DC...love it.
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Ok so I haven't updated this for ages loads work has been done now one the hull and cabin and other parts still no where near finished but she's getting there finally lol hope u like the pictures
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And some more pics
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And some more pics
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Excellent. You have got the mucky look of the real thing. I see the crew are borrowing some coal. The bike was an essential item aboard for the boy to go for the "messages". Most puffer models are "pented-up like a yat", well done Darren for avoiding that trap.
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Had to get to the end and felt exactly the same sentiments Arrow, an absolute credit to your skill Darren, if you're not careful, you could be following the path to the "Dark Side" like Eddiesolo.
Regards Ian.
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Thanks guys she's getting there slowly doesn't help that I'm a right picky so and so lol,
Still got loads to do at the moment and it's trying to get the time to be honest, I live in faringdon now with my wife but we are currently living with the inlaws due to saving to get our own place, all my modeling stuff is at my dads house as I don't like doing any off it here, my dads from swindon so it's about 24 mile round trip from door to door so I can only afford to do it about once a week at the moment so I can only get as much done as I can really when over there :(
I'm trying to get her finished for the mayhem event now in May me and dad are on about coming up for it, I haven't managed to get any more done until later this week but I found a photo of my fathers puffer he had the caldercraft kit in the early 80s when it first come out but got rid of his years ago I always wanted one as it was my favorite model I always told him I'd bud one and one day do it better lol I have combined picture of mine and his
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Finally picked this up again and started doing work repaired little parts that have broke of have now been stuck back on winch is now fully painted and stuck in place on the boat just need to paint the brake peddle and stick it on then touch up some paint, some of the rigging has been started also some work on the boom crane done some work on the buckets I brought to go on deck can't do any more this week unfortunately due to dad working on nights can't get in to his room as that's where we do all the model making slowly starting again but she will get there still loads painting to do :)
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Winch is a bit too rusty and dusty looking IMHO. Wouldn`t it be greasy and dark oily muck, some shiny chipped paint showing through ?
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Yeah as stated it needs touching up but I have few bits I want to add to it it's still a work in progress it's taken me two years to get this far and it's been sat on bench for a while as I have been doing other projects
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ignore arrow5 ! .
i think it looks good ! ... infact the whole build is fantastic mate ! . and after seeing her in the flesh at wicksteed the pictures do her no justice ! ... looks a lot better in real life !
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VIC32`s winch is a bit tarted-up as befits it`s current use, but you get the idea. No stoory at all ;D Oh and a varnished dinghy jist like on a "chentlman`s yat".
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Yes but u will find the vic was restored recently! So she hasn't done any proper work in years and plus every one builds the vic this is a working puffer
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Also just to get technical as u obviously are having a dig the metal parts used on puffers were cast iron steal painted black which included the winch which even out the factory before even getting on boats showed signs of rust and plus throw in to the mix it was winching the anchor up so u had salt water on the rope and chain throw that in to the mix that causes more rust, baring in mind with all puffers they were work horses and they were well none for being dirty horrible hard working boats not perfect condition like the vic is in now she is a museum piece now and no longer gets used for what she was originally built for she is restored to a lovely condition which is not how I want my puffer to look all the vic now is a show piece, I built this puffer and I'm painting it to how lady bute would have been but am painting it to how I think she should be painted as a work horse not straight of the dry dock looking immaculate lady bute was a coal puffer to and one of the fastest ones out of the puffers even states that on the history of her which u will find on this link as the name I have given is is from a puffer
http://themackenzies.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/puffers/Rivercloy.htm
Also the rowing boat again isn't perfect because it's aged things can be varnished and then still gett roughed up here's some pictures for example of how I mean of rowing boats I had done quite a bit of research on puffers before starting this build I may be young and compared to a lot of people on this site not as skilled but I enjoy what I do and negative comments knock my confidence which is why this sat on the bench for a while but now I am even more determined to complete her I got quite a lot of good feedback from the mayhem event like Ian stated,
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Also just to get technical as u obviously are having a dig the metal parts used on puffers were cast iron steal painted black which included the winch which even out the factory before even getting on boats showed signs of rust and plus throw in to the mix it was winching the anchor up so u had salt water on the rope and chain throw that in to the mix that causes more rust, baring in mind with all puffers they were work horses and they were well none for being dirty horrible hard working boats not perfect condition like the vic is in now she is a museum piece now and no longer gets used for what she was originally built for she is restored to a lovely condition which is not how I want my puffer to look all the vic now is a show piece, I built this puffer and I'm painting it to how lady bute would have been but am painting it to how I think she should be painted as a work horse not straight of the dry dock looking immaculate lady bute was a coal puffer to and one of the fastest ones out of the puffers even states that on the history of her which u will find on this link as the name I have given is is from a puffer
http://themackenzies.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/puffers/Rivercloy.htm (http://themackenzies.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/puffers/Rivercloy.htm)
Also the rowing boat again isn't perfect because it's aged things can be varnished and then still gett roughed up here's some pictures for example of how I mean of rowing boats I had done quite a bit of research on puffers before starting this build I may be young and compared to a lot of people on this site not as skilled but I enjoy what I do and negative comments knock my confidence which is why this sat on the bench for a while but now I am even more determined to complete her I got quite a lot of good feedback from the mayhem event like Ian stated,
well said mate . dont let any one put you down . the detail of your boat is outstanding . if it was my boat it would of been finished a long time ago . but no where near the standard you have done and nowhere near as much detail as yours !...
keep up the good work mate ! .
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Your doing just fine Darren.
The Vic 32 was not a 'Puffer' per se as
she was built for the Admiralty.
She was part of a fleet of Victualling Inshore Craft
hence VIC and she would have serviced Dockyards and
Coastal bases and would never have got to look like a
hard worked puffer.
Keep the build blog and photos coming :-)) :-))
Ned
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Thanks guys :) I'm planing on doing some more tomorrow morning I should get to dads about 9am but in work 4pm :( joys of working 7 days a week at the moment just no time for modeling
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Thanks guys :) I'm planing on doing some more tomorrow morning I should get to dads about 9am but in work 4pm :( joys of working 7 days a week at the moment just no time for modeling
Don't forget to open and play with the parcel I sent you at your dads and let me know what you think of them
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More work done on mainly the front end today booms been aged more and weathered and so has all the chains and parts slowly coming together very happy tho done some on the hovercraft as well quite happy so far :)
Ps Ian thank u for those and u weren't joking i think I have gone blind the unit works well to thank u :)
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Hi guys I have been thinking of how I can protect my puffer I'm going to be spraying her with some Matt varnish but I'm also thinking of building a box for her to sit in while I'm not using her and can be carried to the lake or shows in, I don't really no how thick wood to use for the box if I build one my father in law is a builder and he's said he's got loads of 18mm thick plywood at the moment but will this be to thick ?
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Not too thick, but certainly very heavy. About 15-18kg. Maybe use 18mm for the base and make the box out of 6mm?
Andy
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the detail is fantastic....last picture of the mast ,just right to me...the detail of the chains and black on the mast...very well done....not over done,just right....regards tony
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Hi there guys
Thank u slug for your comment means a lot I'm starting to get my confidence back in the build after being off it for quite a while I now have the week of work next week to do lots more on her :) I managed to get to my dads house today done bits to the hull from the tubes come out the hull weathered them slightly also I done quite bit more rigging to the boom and little bits I put the cabin and hatch on as well to see what she looks like I am very happy so far :)
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Cracking job, DC...I hope my little tug comes out half as good.
Rich
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Love the weathering on this boat. You have captured what a real working vessel looks like, something I'm alluding to on my fishing smack. These kind of workboats were always covered in grime, why model them in pristine condition when in real life they never looked like a varnished racing yacht!
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Thank you Brian for your kind comments :)
So today was day one of day off work I done a little bit to the puffer touched up the hatch cover where needed and I removed the bike that was broken painted the new one I had and stuck it on done it exactly in the same colours and put it back in the same place I also sprayed two coats off Matt varnish on the hatch cover now it's fully finished to protect the paint and the finish very happy with it :)
I'm awaiting a few parts before I can declare the cabin as finished now but she's getting there I ended up spending the rest of the day washing polishing waxing my car and cooking a nice lasagne for when the wife finishs work I think a well deserved few beers tonight are in order :)
I will be doing more work tomorrow I will update then with more pictures but any way here's the pictures from today :)
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Just keeps getting better :-))
Car looks nice No weathering %%
Ned
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Thanks netleyned she's getting there becoming happier with it I'm now really looki g forward to getting her on the water I'm just wondering what events are left I won't be able to go to any until September time but I'm hoping to get lady bute finished by then at the moment we have no home water any more and mine and dads local model boat club are as good as a chocolate teapot so it kind of sucks so far this year we have been out once at that was the Saturday at mayhem :(
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I'm just wondering what events are left I won't be able to go to any until September time
its a bit of a trek but your welcome to our club any time ! .. also . come to the blackpool show with us in october
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Ok cheers Ian :)
I done some more work today day 2 of the holiday from work and one of the parts I had ordered arrived which I'm very pleased about so it means there's not much on the cabin left to do few touch ups and a few bits to add, any way the part that arrived was a new deck hand a young boy basically I have read many history items on the puffer and they nearly always carried crew animal cat or dog and a young deck hand,
Any way it's a resin model I primered painted and stuck in place hoping to get much more done 2mora but it's looking good in my opinion and I'm happy with how it's coming along
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fair play mate . you dont hang around !
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ok2
Hello
The characters are nice
Which is the manufacturer please
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Ian this is what happens when my dads at work and wife is so there not bothering me and I have a full day on her :)
The figures are 1/35 from a company called fields of glory they mainly deal with railway figures and war stuff but there railway figures fit in very well with the puffer unfortunately there not cheap but the are very good resin casts and good quality much better than the caldercraft standard ones :)
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ok2
You have an internet link please, I find nothing for these characters
Thank you in advance
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hey DC at this rate youll have my fishing boat ready for the water by the end of the week !
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Haven't got that far with it Ian to be honest all I done so far was take one the side bars off and then put it on the shelf lol,
Here's a link to the website I apologise to martin if I'm not suppose to post links just trying to help out
http://www.fieldsofglorymodels.co.uk
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ok2
Thank you for the link
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Haven't got that far with it Ian to be honest all I done so far was take one the side bars off and then put it on the shelf lol,
Here's a link to the website I apologise to martin if I'm not suppose to post links just trying to help out
http://www.fieldsofglorymodels.co.uk
Nope, no problem at all! Shameless praise is a good thing! :-))
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Hi guys thank u martin thought better check to be safe than sorry
So done quite a bit of building and messing about with lady bute for past few days, I have painted the bucket now and it's fitted beside the young boy filled with coal ( it may appear glossy at the moment in pictures but the glue was still wet when I took pictures It will be ok when varnished) hope u guys enjoy she's getting there slowly :)
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Hello
I am in total admiration in front of your work
But!
If you put characters it has to be logically
What can make this boy with his bucket for this place???
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Hi gazuo
Thank u for your kind comments
As you can see from these two pictures when the cabins on the hull the young boy is sat on on the cabin looking down at the other two working being lazy I put the bucket there and boy there to make it look like he's been working but on a brake if u get what I mean
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I understands
But the young boy why watches going up a heavy bucket above? It is getting tired pointlessly. {-) {-) {-)
This puffer is a marvel :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Large bucket is for unloading the cargo. I think the wee boy has been instructed to take the small bucket (pail) of coal for the stove in the crew`s cabin forward. Shrinkage as they call it in the trade.
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Exactly as arrow put it :)
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Here, in the region , the COGNAC evaporates, we call it: the part of the angels
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"The Angels Share" a recent film about the whisky trade is currently on release in the UK. Next time you get an empty barrel try to see if there are any neatly applied wooden dowels under the iron hoops, if so then the cask has been blessed by an angel. They only take about a HP Sauce bottle`s worth from a barrel.
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Ok so after a weeks worth of work on the puffer I have got quite far on she's still no where near finished I put to of the side bumpers on just to take some pics of her very happy with her so far wanted to do some more work on her over the weekend but unfortunately I have to spend time with the wife lol
I'm planning on having her done by the end of August in one of the pictures u will see i placed all the batteries and the speaker motor just to test the weight of her :)
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mate i have followed this build from the day you bought the kit ! . i must say that you have done a phenomenal job on this puffer !
what you need to do is buy the wife a cookery book and send her in the kitchen and then you can carry on building ! haha . please dont tell her i said that <*<
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Cheers Ian to think only a month ago I just couldn't get back in to the project and was asking u how much u think it would be worth as a unfinished project lol
I told the wife but she laughed and gave me that look that means shut up I will obey lol
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Ok so I managed to get rid of the wife for a while today funny how it works when u offer them money to go shopping with to buy them self something nice lol,
So I done more of the rigging and I think I have 99% of it done now on the rigging hopefully I say as it takes ages and fiddley lol
I made some custom parts today as well for the bucket and boom and the part on the anchor basically the kit supplies u with more of the hand rail stantions than u need so I converted to u will see this in the picture probably more clearer in the anchor one I'm glad to have got some more done today a friend of mine who is a professional photographer has said he's coming to swindon for 1 week only in October and if I can get her done by then he will take photos of her on a lake or pool some where :)
In other news as well I have now purchased my first really decent air brush and compressor a harder and steenbeck infinity 2 in 1 very happy looking forward to getting it so I can progress my painting and learn new technics :)
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I'm following this with interest. :-))
Your details are something to be proud of. Send the Missis out more often. {-)
Cheers
Ken
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Thanks tug kenny have done some more bit all over the place at the moment lost my grandmother and grandfather within the past month and it was the funeral yesterday bit all over place but have done some more
More work done on the puffer all the rigging is now sorted and set some of it isn't fitted in place some does need ageing still, the bucket I had to remove from the hatch didn't think it through about removing the hatch to get the batteries out and service it Etc so I fitted pin so it can be held in place chains round back are fitted still need painting rear rudder still needs some more silver solider on it still quite a bit to do hopefully I can get back in the mood to work on it not really in the right head space to do it at mo
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So I have been thinking about the puffer and how I can keep it clean safe and away from hand that shouldn't touch it so I been talking to my father inlaw about building a box out of plywood that I can keep her safe and yesterday we started and built this it needs some paint on it I want to put some foam on the sides and I need to make a stand for lady bute to sit on and then stick it down in there but very happy hope u guys like
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Hi guys sorry for the delay a lot has been happening me and the wife have just got our first place so haven't been doing much but I decided to crack on with the boat box so I could place lady bute in it ready for the move so she doesn't get damaged in transit I have drew the name and a picture of a puffer on the box and stained it I will detail this with my airbrush and then do a couple of coats of vanish over the box hope u like
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Hi guys just wondered what peoples opinions are on my puffer so far still work to be done but just wondered wat u all thought
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Hi guys just wondered what peoples opinions are on my puffer so far still work to be done but just wondered wat u all thought
To be fair mate. I have followed this build from the start. And your doing a great job with fantastic attention to detail :-)
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Been following it and been impressed, great attention to detail.
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Hi guys sorry little update for some reason i couldnt get in to my account so i had to set up another one. Well after moving house finding out we are having a baby im finely back on working on lady bute trying to get her finished for mayhem she needs to be on the water this year still have a lot left to do but hopefully will be posting regular posts now hope u like the pictures
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Hi Darren
Great to hear from you again and hearty congratulations on the news about your baby! (Or should I say babies! :-) ) Lady Bute continues to impress. O0
I too was hoping to get my puffer "sailable" for Wicksteed - but that now seems unlikely. She's still a long long way from being finished!
Keep up the good work!
Mike
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Less than 5 weeks mate
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Congrats, you can not beat full size modelling as long as you realise it gets dearer as the years progress, are you going to run the puffer with the hatch covers open showing to cargo? because with a load like that it would be down the the gunwales in real life. That means your model should down over the waterline to look right. Kind regards, Nemesis
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Hi guys thank u i have week of work in may so im hoping to get lot done then.
Nemis i am running two lead acid 6v battries a speaker sound unit a decaperm motor a seprate 5000mah battery to just run the motor an lights and a foggy unit to pruduce steam if all that doesnt make her sit low id be shocked
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It was very common for puffers to sail well overloaded. I`ve seen them with the scuppers awash AND the hatch uncovered, calm days only of course.
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Vintage picture of Texa on the River Clyde.
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Hi arrow thank you for the image it is nice to see old pictures of them working etc. I done a lot of research when starting my lady bute build and the name came from one that used to work out of glassgow that carried coal etc i read a lot so i would be true with the build if that makes sense like the crew they normal ran with a crew of 6. One captain a mecanic/deck hand crew boy/girl and 3 other deckhands and a pet dog/cat. Im in the process of trying to work out where to attach a scottish flag im un sure either to have it on the rigging some where on a pole on cabins roof or behind the cabin i really need to decide where and het my backside into gear as mayhem is getting closer and shes still not finished
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Red Ensign on the stern area of course, careful with the Lion Rampant, it is restricted and Saltire confused with signal flag. I`d go with Saltire on halyard on main mast, just make sure it isn't "squarish". Nice work on the details. BTW they were not very clean boats, a wee bit stoory here`n there :-))
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Thanks arrow i staind saltrie flag before leaving for work in tea i will fit it up in the morning on the rigging on the main mast i dont want it to appear to new and effect the over all look of the boat
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Ok so been playing with the flag for while and i think it looks very good where it is its much better after i stained it as well because it looked way too bright and clean before hope u guys like i still have loads to do but shes getting there ☺
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Hi Darren, wonderful detail work on the puffer sir. She looks real! Curious if you will have her riding low on her lines with the coal load she will be carrying? The vintage photo you posted shows her riding low and I guess that is the way they did.
Regards,
Dennis
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Excellent weathering Darren...she looks real :-))......it would be interesting to understand the vessels displacement ready for sailing at her assumed draft as seen here
A few question for arrow5.................
1. that old image depicts the cargo as a light coloured material [underneath the 'clam shell' type grab] & certainly not coal
It is questionable that a cargo of coal would bring her waterline down as shown......so what I am asking is what heavy material [with a lightish colour] could he have been carrying?...iron ore or a manganese ore perhaps.......but the colour isn't correct .........
2. the design of these grabs is such that the cargo material spills to an equilateral triangular prism shape. The size of the grab suggests that it could hold say 3' x 3' x 5' or approx. 22 cubic foot of material..............so irrespective of the cargo material, combined with the weight of the grab itself would have made unloading task a daunting process even with the steam windlass.....as you had at least 4 wires to contend with.....the lift wire [multiple falls] off the main drum , the two slew wires assumed off the side drums?...not sure where the trip wire would have been stationed or secured >>:-(........
I do understand that this is totally different as Darren's model has a hand shovelled/filled coal bucket........Derek
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Sorry Derek , I cant help. I wasn't too interested in ships when did my courting of a Troon lass. I saw a whole lot of puffers being demolished in the Troon Shipbreakers as well as naval ships, the odd submarine and cargo ships. I lived in the town of Ayr a short bus ride south where that harbour was a coal loading port for the Ayrshire coalfields. The occasional puffer but mostly fishing boats used this harbour at the mouth of the River Ayr. A few Puffers still operated in the 50s and 60s. At a guess I think that Texa has been doing a bit of dredging on the Forth and Clyde canal and may be heading downstream on the River Clyde to dispose of the light coloured material , drying mud/silt ? I`m sure there are ex seamen on Mayhem that can explain the workings of the grab. I recall a working model dredger with such a system, cant think of the builder. Try www.clydemaritime.co.uk/forum see also themackenzies.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/puffers BTW I did marry the lassie from Troon in 1958 and she is making my toast this morning as I type.
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A little update.
Lady bute is with my father at the moment hes doing all the electrics for me as im working 7 days a week split shifts at the moment so im very tired and crankey still have some painting to do and then varnish her in matt varnish ready for water tests and getting her sat right on the water line etc looking forward to mayhem only coming up for the saturday tho due to the wife
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Carry on with the build Darren
and take her to Wicky.
Take the boat for sale as well.
Enjoy Wicky it's for everyone.
You should have emailed Martin as soon as you had problems with your
original membership and you would probably got sorted without resorting
to spurious posts to get the requisite posts under your belt.
Wicky iaint worth missing if you can get there.
I wish I could make it.
Ned
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Yep...what Ned said.
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Darren,
As Ned has said, if you had contacted Martin or a moderator the situation of your lost posts could have been resolved quite easily.
Just posting to get the number of posts makes you look like you have only joined Mayhem to sell models.
Bob
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Hi dc. I looked at your name and you had 148 posts. Come to mayhem as I need to see the puffer. Pics don't it justice. Luton will be attending but in a much reduced mode but your still welcome to set up with us. Ps bring the missus and tell her what she will be missing!
To all don't forget to charge your batteries!
Will be seeing you all on the Friday between 10 and 11. Klunk is in super mode at the moment as work which will set me up for Wicksteed. All I require is bacon rolls and tea!
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Hi mate missis wont be able to come mate shes 31 weeks pregnant at mo puffer will b finished tho
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I am just wodering as i am now a marked man by the modrators would any one still like to see post off my puffer build or not? Im now considering not coming to wickstead due to the way i have been treated very much enjoyed last year but i dont like being treated like dirt
Darren here is a TOP TIP drop it NOW O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 BELIEVE you ME you are on a very very sticky wicket at the mo....Forget it BUT if you do so wish carry on and Believe you ME the moderators will Ban you for life the way you are going.
Go to Wickstead and enjoy yourself....intorduce yuorself to Martin and put it to bed once and for all
Dave...................OH yes WE DO WANT TO SEE THE BUILD O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
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That's not an excuse. I spend a weekend looking like a demented teletubby. The least she could do is come and laugh at me! Cos I know you and Ian will!!
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Topic tidied up :police:
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All sorted now thank u martin..
Klunk at moment she struggles enough to get off sofa and out bed she can hardly walk round tescos so mayhem would be to much
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Klunk I'll be laughing at you before I set off Friday afternoon
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So electrics are all in thanks to the old man speaker at the front temp 2500mah stick back its dads i have a 5000mah pack to run motor the two lead acid batteries run the foggy unit ( foggy unit needs repairing at the moment needs new fan it go wet so think it burnt motor out as u can see its not on it in pics) and one of the lead acid batteries runs sound unit due to foggy unit being 24 volts and sound unit being 12v servo all linked up etc now just need to finish the painting and varnish her then water test to make sure she sits on water line but judging the weight off her at the moment i dont think she will need alot of extra weight
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Mad max on and trying crack on with some work on the puffer before work
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That is one of the best model boats I've ever seen DC...it is so atmospheric, captures the look of the old puffers so well.
My heartiest compliments, sir...
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Cheers mate I have to get all the painting done by Wednesday as I'm going over to dad's Wednesday varnish her and water test her ready for next weekend ☺
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I'll second that comment of U33's....took me six years of sailing in all weathers to get the same grimy effect on my puffer............but even after being run down by a friends 8'6" Hunt Class destroyer, she still bobbed up like a cork and sailed well.............they are fabulous little models, and I can state quite reasonably with Hand on heart, that this kit was and is the finest little model that Frank Hinchliffe ever EVER designed and built.......and yours does the old man proud.........he would have loved it.
neil.
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Cheers mate dad had one and built it when the kit first come out I loved using it and now I'm bit more confident I said to him I was going to build a puffer and maybe make it better than his lol Neil will u be coming to mayhem
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nah, matey, far too far for me to go, especially as my kids are right in the middle of gcse's.
maybe one day.
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Oh that's a shame Neil would have been nice to meet up with another puffer fan
More work done today on lady bute rear railings now all painted and finished same with the chain and servo conectors also weathered to match etc still lots of work to be done painting before I can varnish her and do water test
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I now declare this puffer lady bute finished well I have to repair the front light rigging I broke and water test her and varnish her but all the painting is now complete thanks to the guys keeping me on track to finish her I can't wait for her maiden voyage at mayhem
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Fair play to you mate. I'm really looking forward to seeing her at wiki
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Cheers mate don't think I would got this far if it wasn't for u keeping me on the project bud but glad she's painted now just wack few layers varnish through the airbrush then if weather stays nice water test her in the afternoon ☺
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Cheers mate don't think I would got this far if it wasn't for u keeping me on the project bud but glad she's painted now just wack few layers varnish through the airbrush then if weather stays nice water test her in the afternoon ☺
no worries at all mate.
You can thank me with free coffee at wikki lol
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Ok guys hope every one is well and looking forward to the week end I am really excited about wickstead had cracking year last year.
Yesterday I varnished the puffer and then done some water tests with her I'm glad to say she took no water in either through shaft or rudder happy days :) but when looking at the ballast and where she sits etc she sat fine on the back but front needed to come down more and she was sat one side slightly the pictures are from before I put ballast in to sit her correctly in the water over all I am very happy with how she looks on water etc I just have to try and work out how to charge the lead acid batteries on my core rc charger
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DC, I don't care what anybody else thinks, but I still say that boat is worthy of entering in a major exhibition...it's really atmospheric in it's finish. I keep looking at the Motorflote and thinking of how it would look with that sort of finish...
Well done mate...it's a credit to your skills as a modeller.
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If I had the time to spare mate I would weather it for u but I just haven't got the time at the moment still halfway through sorting babies room out and to make things even worse her work have only paid her £15 for the month they have deducted from her stat sick pay and stat maternity pay so it's going to be a very bad month hoping I can sell my 2 boats I got for sale :((
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Absolutely fantastic well done. Where did you learn to weather paint like that?
Also..... I am scratch building an early steam schooner and after seeing all the fittings on the puffer I wondered if they are available to buy separately? By fittings I mean all the hooks shackles deadeyes and things like that. I have worked out that the scale of my boat to be 1/25 (4cm =1 metre) and anything that wont look too out of place size wise will be a big help. Thanks, and well done again! U2
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Hi guys got some pics of the puffer on the water used her a few times very happy with her how she sails ☺
Unsinkable I mainly learnt from tips from my grandfather dad and utube videos also refrence photos
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Get a glass case for it keep it in there and now move on to your next project
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One word !!!- stunning !
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Cheers ian trouble is I don't no what to move on to next still thinking about a 1/24 ferry just time and money I'm lacking at the moment bud but I definitely want to build something else. Think when little lady has arrived I will get my head down and think of something unless I can sell my trawler and I will buy another kit possibly depending on what the boss says lol