Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Tugs and Towing => Topic started by: Captbearuk on April 20, 2013, 02:35:17 pm
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Guys,
I may live to regret this, but is anybody interested in modern PSV's? We get them coming alongside all the time and I can take photo's of them at quite close range - 60-100ft away. I've taken photo's of the 'Bourbon Liberty' recently, well about 60 actually and they may be of use to show the detail for anyone interested in building a model. The downsides are: I can't always get the 'other' side of the vessel, nor can I get the plans. Although in the Bourbon Liberty case the company website does have a basic schematic.
We do get some junk alongside but occasionally some nice vessels; yesterday an X-bow "CBO Copacobana".
Glyn
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Glyn,
Always interested in these photos, they are great documentation and difficult to find. Thanks for posting, and if you have more, post away!
Thanks,
Pete
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Pete,
Uploading photos is painful here but these are the sorts of photos I can take. let me know if they're useful/interesting/out of focus :embarrassed:
Glyn
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Tough day at the office!
CPO Copacabana at the portside taking general cargo. Hos Pinnacle stbd side giving us bulk cement.
Glyn
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Very Nice Photos.
Keep them coming. :-))
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I think its worth while posting any thing you can get a good photo of, some one will appreciate that little bit of detail they may not get when a vessel is alongside. Your photo angle is from view that the every day person doesn't see, and even if modelling a similar vessel we can get a glimpse of reality. Keep up the good work.
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nice photos ive got a hull looks like the last one and i needed some ideas for it thanks :-)) :-))
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Superb Photos. As others have said, from an angle and range some mere mortals, will never get. Thank You.
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If these help anyone, I'm happy to post.
Glyn
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Excellent !
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Uploading is slow, my connection speed. But a few more.
Glyn
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Excellent , keep them coming. :-))
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A few more.
Glyn
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Tell me if you're getting bored. :D
Glyn
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After this I'll post another vessel for variety O0
Oh, yes the last photo shows an orange tube on a bit of string which almost all PSV's have these days.
Glyn
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Oh, yes the last photo shows an orange tube on a bit of string which almost all PSV's have these days.
Fire/emergency plan is in the Red tube, what is the Orange tube?
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Fire plans.....nope. :-)
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Here are some more photos. The pictures of the natural vent and hose to Weco connection are from our own vessel as I couldn't get a clear photo of the one on board the PSV; but they are the same.
Glyn
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Ixion,
You are quite correct in red tubes holding fire plans for the emergency services, but they would have a more permanent position and be clearly identified. In this case the red tube hanging on the door is attached to the platform crane in order to transfer documentation, manifests, that requires signatures. Similarly the orange tube is attached to a rope that usually goes up to the bridge deck handrail. That way the paperwork can be passed up to the bridge for the Master to sign then passed back without all that strenuous stair climbing. :-)
Glyn
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Brilliant pictures.
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I am loving these, thanks so much for taking the time to share. I think these vessels would make a great modelling project for someone with the relevant skills so that kinda rules me out :embarrassed:
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Glyn,
Great pix! I am seeing details I've never noticed before.
Thanx,
Pete
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Hello
photos are excellent for documentation.
And plans, or even GA you have an idea to get them? %)
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Andy,
Thanks for the words of praise. Now that I know people are interested i will continue posting photos.
Meanwhile does anyone have any comments? Would you like to see more general vessel pictures or detail photos? I have a sneeky feeling you're all going to say 'both'! %)
So here are a few more and the last one could raise a few smiles.
Glyn
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Yes, keep them pictures coming. You never did say why you can't see the port sides.
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Ken
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Okay, time for a bit of clarification.
The vessels we get can work either side of our vessel, so if they are on our portside, we see their stbd side. If their on our stbd side, we see their port side......generally. The newer vessels tend to prefer working bow to wind, which is our orientation. This is because they have sufficiently powerful bow thrusters to maintain heading. Older, or smaller vessels with weaker bow thrusters tend to prefere working stern to wind, so the above views would be the reverse. Occasionally we get the same vessel working both sides of our vessel and I get the all round view. :-)
Some details on new vessels that may add to the details of your own models are:
Signs - these have become the religion of the workplace safety culture. They are everywhere. If you're interested in making your own signs, then you might consider downloading the catalogue from our sign supplier Hi-Lite signs of Aberdeen. A little bit of copying, cropping and reduction might prove effective. I'm certainly going to give it a go when I get to that stage in my model. Try http://www.hi-litesigns.com/ (http://www.hi-litesigns.com/)
Pipework colour code - small colour bands around the pipework to identify the product type. Not beyond the scope of a modeller and looks effective.
Vents - the photo I posted earlier are a standard natural vent for storerooms, lockers, offices, engine spaces (though the main engine intakes are much bigger louvered affairs). You could definately and authentically place these vents liberally around your vessel.
Aerials/ antennaes - nowadays with satellite navigation and communication, the monkey island handrails can have a dozen or more stubby aerials.
Waste Drums / Spill kits - Many vessels now have domestic type coloured wheelie bins to take segregated waste. The Spill kit or SOPEP kits are usually close to an area where oil may be spilt and contain absorbant material and other items to respond to a spill. Usually either yellow or orange 200ltr drums.
Did anyone guess the last photo? Wedding reception, childrens party?......getting warmer. The vessel was getting ready for it's weekly BBQ! O0 It was more than the usual setup, but I don't think I've ever seen a tug without a BBQ somewhere on the back deck. We have one (and used it today!!) and there's also one picture in an earlier photo I posted - behind the Bourbon liberty FRC davit.
As to the question of plans and GA drawings, you can imagine that it would be difficult for me to ask all of these vessels for that information simply on the strength of having them available to me. There is also the language barrier; I'm a native English speaker, a lot of these vessels are crewed by native Portuguese speakers, although their English is usually good. The only way i could effectively receive the drawing would be electronically by email and therefore the size sent/received could be limited. Having said that........we do occasionally get a US or UK Mastered vessel and if one particularly takes my fancy, I think I will ask and see where that takes me. As for the others, it's not uncommon for vessel to have some basic plan as part of their vessel specification details (the Bourbon Liberty has one avialable here http://www.bourbon-online.com/en/fleet/psv (http://www.bourbon-online.com/en/fleet/psv) ). Other people have contacted the owners directly and I am frequently suprised when I hear that these companies have willing supplied plans for their vessels, for the use of making models.
I'll try to offer more comments and photos when I can.
Glyn
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Captain,
Please photograph everything and anything, they are all useful and will more so in the future. If you can, please do pictures of the whole vessel at first light and as the sun sets for some real atmospheric images.
I would also suggest that you, if you have not already done so, make a folder for each vessel and pictures in those as it saves much time and frustration when searching for that "special" picture. Don't forget as well to back them up.
LB
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your photos are a treasure for anyone who wants to make a Bourbon Liberty. Anyone who wants to make a nice nen model is never enough.
I built EDDA FONN , I have about 400 photos and I still missing. <:(
Thank you very much for model
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Please continue, along with your explanations makes it very interesting. Not everyday life for most of us.
All the best!
Hama
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Okay, more of the Bourbon Liberty (as I have them) and I'll see what I can do about 'atmospheric' pictures :kiss:
I'll try an get some close up shots of specific items that could help the modeller with details.
Glyn
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I'm beginning to lose track of what I've posted :o
Maybe time for a bit of variety.
Glyn
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More of the Bourbon Liberty.....but nobody said 'Stop!' :-)
Glyn
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Sure you've not had enough!!! {-)
Glyn
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The last set was great. But how am I going to remember to create all that detail(and mess).
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I also liked seeing the cargo with the lift lines all in place.
Perhaps a few with a lift under way. :-))
Umi
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My appetite for detail has been well and truly been satiated, thank you.
Nemesis
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Well, it's nice to hear that I'm keeping someone happy. :-) .
I'm busy with working a vessel right now but I'll post some photos of detail next which might be more useful, rather than the shotgun approach to detail which may have overpowered some.
Regards
Glyn
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This may interest some.
Just to point out that liferaft valises have labels on them. Manufacturers lables, launching instructions and specification details. The ends usually have the vessels name, manufacturers lable and maybe liferaft serial number. The next to last photo in this group is how we store liferafts in one location and is shown for general interest. I don't recall seeing liferafts stored like this on supply or anchor handling vessels. Doubles are usually stored on a ramp type framework.
Glyn
Oh and just to show how bad signage can get these days......but not normally as bad on tugs and supply vessels.
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Glyn
Thank you for posting the picture's i for one am very greatfull :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Detail picture's link the one's you have posted are very hard to come by
Kind regards Jason
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I know people that build all that... :o
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A couple of photos of standard vents, different sizes and elevations. Also our Safety plan storage box placed where the emergency services would normally board the vessel. That is near the gangway and in our case another near the helideck. In many cases these storage places are cylindrical tubes, usually vertical, sometimes horizontal, but invariably painted red and marked up as 'Fire Control Plans'.
Glyn
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I am always amazed at the details in some models and the lengths people will go to authentically recreate something. For my next batch of photos and to keep the purists happy I will photograph large areas of rust! .........what no takers..... {-)
The Maersk vessel modelled is an exceptional one indeed and sets the bar very high for us all. Hopefully it will motivate us rather than be overly critical of our own efforts. Well that's the way I'm looking at it.
Glyn
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For those gluttons for punishment...read on.
Cameras - most tugs have them, be they supply or Anchor handlers. They are positioned were the view from the bridge is restricted or distant. They all have a zoom function so that the Master can get a close up of anchor work taking place, or even damaged equipment without leaving the controls. Cameras are frequently placed to view winch drums to watch quantities of wire out and whether the wire is stowing correctly. They usually have a pan and tilt function which is the type shown in the photos.
Door bars - these are tubes sometimes placed outside wateright doors that are 6 or 8 lever operated. They may be white but in our case red and are used to tighten down the door or open a door if it's been overtightened. So we have a tube on the inside of the door as well.
Pipework - this is usually painted the same as the background colour of the vessel in that location. Usually white around the accommodation and possibly grey, orange, green or whatever colour is predominant. The product within the pipework is, as I mentioned previously, identified by coloured banding and direction arrow tape. The pipework banding on the pipes is usually all together to keep it neat rather than each pipe having it's markings scattered. it can get confusing that way. The only pipework that is commonly accepted as painted one solid colour is the fire main; and it is red.
Incidentally I used to work for a Danish shipping company whose main clour for their ships was red! I seem to recall on those vessels the fire main was green. For every rule, there is an exception. :-)
Oh yes; for added interest I've included a photo of one of the two spare propellers we carry on board.
Glyn
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And a few more.......
Those who complain that their boats have sprung a leak should see the hole in my boat!
Glyn
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Who was it asked for more 'atmospheric' photos?.......( Liverbudgie you know who you are 8) )
Well here's a gravity fall lifeboat davit with a full moon :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
Any more 'atmospheric' and you'll be buying me dinner and chocolates {-)
Glyn
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I have a question about those liferaft canisters. On larger ships there are usually many of them spread all over the place, always by the railings or the edge of the hull on deck. On smaller vessels that may only have one or two, is there a rule as to where they are placed? Can they be placed atop a cabin, for example, or must they always be placed where the crew have immediate access to them? Are there rules about how close they can be placed to overhanging rigging or masts?
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special documentation
really exceptional
Thank you a thousand times
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NickelBelter,
Here is a summary of the SOLAS regulations 11 relating to liferaft embarkation:
1 Liferafts shall be stowed as close to accommodation and service spaces as possible.
2 Muster stations shall be provided close to embarkation stations but at least 0.35m2 per person
3 Muster and embarkation stations shall be readily accessible from accommodation and work areas.
4 Muster areas shall be adequately lit.
SOLAS regulations 13 - Stowage of Survival Craft
Each Survival craft shall be:
.1 Stowed so as not to interfere with other survival craft
.2 As near to the water as practicable.
.3 Ready to use and launched within 5 minutes
.4 Fully equipped.
.5 As far as practicable, in a secure and sheltered position and protected from damage by fire
4.1 Every liferaft shall be stowed with its paniter permanently attached to the ship
4.2 Each liferaft or group of liferafts shall be stowed with a float free arrangement complying with the Code so that it floats free and if inflatable, inflates automatically when the ship sinks.
4.3 Liferafts shall be stowed so as to permit manual release.
5. davit launched liferafts shall be stowed within range of the lifting hooks.
6. Liferafts intended for throw overboard launching shall be so stowed as to be ready for launching either side of the vessel. If this is not possible then additional liferafts must be carried so that liferafts can be launched from either side of the vessel.
Now this is very paraphrased and there are exclusions, so give me a break for misquoting. If you want to know more, then ask. :-))
Glyn
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Who was it asked for more 'atmospheric' photos?.......( Liverbudgie you know who you are 8) ) Indeed I do!
Well here's a gravity fall lifeboat davit with a full moon :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: Very nice however, I was thinking more along the lines of the vessel against a dramatic sunset/sunrise or even better with a "green Flash"
Any more 'atmospheric' and you'll be buying me dinner and chocolates {-)
Fair enough if you get me aboard your FPSO though I would I to give a lot of thought at bringing chocs along as well.. <*<
Glyn
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For a while I worked as a Shell Marine Rep working on various vessels. Unfortunately most of my photographs were submitted with my reports but I managed to find these of the Maersk Laser. The damaged Stevpris anchor was recovered during a semi submersible rig move west of Ireland. At the same time they were inserting swivels into the mooring chain. The photo shows a reluctant joining link being persuaded to separate with the use of a welded frame and a pancake jack. The last photo, also a job on the Maersk Laser, was repairing the buoyage around the Brent Bravo platform.
Regards
Glyn
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The Maersk Laser is a relatively new Anchor Handling vessel and has an unusual gantry system that runs the whole main deck on tracks either side of the aft deck. The gantry crane has a hoist of about 5t (if I remember correctly) but is also fitted with two manipulator arms. These arms are controlled from a 'cyber chair' on the bridge next to the vessels main DP controls. The idea is to handle chain and moorings remotely, thereby keeping people out of harms way. It's still going through it's early teething stages but you can see one of the 'arms' in the background, between the flukes of the Stevpris.
Glyn
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Just having said - "I've never seen liferafts double stacked on a Supply vessel", you get one come alongside to prove you wrong!!! >>:-(
Glyn
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Hello
Interresting pictures, for me specially these ones
(http://nsa34.casimages.com/img/2013/06/25/13062506481987941.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=13062506481987941.jpg)
(http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2013/06/25/130625064919294275.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=130625064919294275.jpg)
As I know, the maritime Luxemburg flag is not that one. To avoid mistake with The Nederland flag, the maritime Luxemburg flag or simply the Luxemburg Ensign is this one (also seen on Bourbon ship)
(http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2013/06/25/130625065509847093.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=130625065509847093.jpg)
http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/80090/santa-cruz-sailing-under-luxembourg-flag/ (http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/80090/santa-cruz-sailing-under-luxembourg-flag/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Civil_Ensign_of_Luxembourg.svg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Civil_Ensign_of_Luxembourg.svg)
And many thanks to Captbearuk for excellent pics
Best regards
Xtian
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Hello
Interresting pictures. For me specialy these stange one with the ship flying the "Dutch flag"
(http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2013/06/25/130625070544575488.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=130625070544575488.jpg)
(http://nsa34.casimages.com/img/2013/06/25/130625070640733056.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=130625070640733056.jpg)
As I know the Luxemburg national flag is different than the Ensign (maritime flag) to avoit mistake with the Dutch one. Have a look to this picture taken aboard of another Bourbon ship.
(http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2013/06/25/130625065509847093.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=130625065509847093.jpg)
http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/80090/santa-cruz-sailing-under-luxembourg-flag/ (http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/80090/santa-cruz-sailing-under-luxembourg-flag/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Civil_Ensign_of_Luxembourg.svg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Civil_Ensign_of_Luxembourg.svg)
Thank you Captbearuk for these excellent pictures
Xtian
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Hello
Interresting pictures. For me specialy these stange one with the ship flying the "Dutch flag"
(http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2013/06/25/130625070544575488.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=130625070544575488.jpg)
(http://nsa34.casimages.com/img/2013/06/25/130625070640733056.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=130625070640733056.jpg)
As I know the Luxemburg national flag is different than the Ensign (maritime flag) to avoit mistake with the Dutch one. Have a look to this picture taken aboard of another Bourbon ship.
(http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2013/06/25/130625065509847093.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=130625065509847093.jpg)
http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/80090/santa-cruz-sailing-under-luxembourg-flag/ (http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/80090/santa-cruz-sailing-under-luxembourg-flag/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Civil_Ensign_of_Luxembourg.svg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Civil_Ensign_of_Luxembourg.svg)
Thank you Captbearuk for these excellent pictures
Xtian
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You never did say why you can't see the port sides
It be the eye patch Ken %)
Anything X-Bow Ulstein will be very appreciated O0
Dave
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Dave,
We see the occasional X-bow. I'll take some pictures next time one turns up.
Glyn
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Outstanding detail shots, applicable to many other vessel classes. Keep up the great work.
Thanks from all of us.
Dufmiester :-)
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Not photo's but a couple of Youtube video's. I find the 3rd one amazing. How the guy keeps dodging away from the water surge coming over the stern. These guys have big cajones, how they don't get washed overboard even with safety lines is a miracle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yCQC0A3Fl8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yCQC0A3Fl8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAWBRPZZcUA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAWBRPZZcUA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTY3xU5p2EU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTY3xU5p2EU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qRVGwt1aSU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qRVGwt1aSU)
Thanks for the pics Glyn, now safely stored along with my others for when I do get around to rebuilding my anchor handler, only one now, the other went to the model scrapyard on the admirals say so!