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Title: Sea sick....
Post by: baloo on April 19, 2013, 06:00:27 pm
I think like the rest of us,"Green with envy"but on a note from Mick f ,been there,done that you forgot to say "GOT THE T-SHIRT" lol.


baloo
Title: Re: Re: Shannon
Post by: dpbarry on April 29, 2013, 07:59:21 pm
I think like the rest of us,"Green with envy"but on a note from Mick f ,been there,done that you forgot to say "GOT THE T-SHIRT" lol.


baloo


Probably the stuff was on it  %% %%


Just on envy, how many peeps have actually been seasick and how would you describe the feeling  :o


I'll start first and say, as crew, I've been sick more times than enough and it's orrible!! I'm okay after I've hoofed it it all up but that feeling I find hard to describe to swmbo.


Declan
Title: Re: Re: Shannon
Post by: RMH on April 29, 2013, 08:40:14 pm
I've been seasick for three days non-stop whilst on a yacht crossing the bay of Biscay. It got so bad my stomach was empty and I was still wretching and bringing up bile, the pain and discomfort was unreal. I actually felt like getting of the boat and into the liferaft but of course that would have made things worse but that's how it affects the mind. Seasickness, as you say, is difficult to describe to someone who doesn't suffer from it but I have full sympathy for anyone who does.

That was thirty years ago and I never gave up on going sailing and still enjoy the odd trip around the Greek Isles.
Title: Re: Re: Shannon
Post by: Neil on April 29, 2013, 09:50:46 pm
it's strange, that the older I got the less sea sick I became when going on water...........as a kid, I could throw up on a rowing boat on the lake.................now adays it never bothers me...............is it, as some say.........a state of mind.........."you think you are, therefore you do???"
Title: Re: Re: Shannon
Post by: RMH on April 29, 2013, 10:16:13 pm
Yep, I think you're right there Neil
Title: Re: Re: Shannon
Post by: dpbarry on April 30, 2013, 09:43:31 am
Yep, I think you're right there Neil
There's hope for me then..  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
 
Declan
Title: Re: Re: Shannon
Post by: Rottweiler on April 30, 2013, 09:50:33 am
never been seasick in my life,but I have been sick at sea a couple of times!As a one time sufferer of Migraine,very strong sun used to affect me with a headache.If I was sick,the headache started getting better.
I proved the point that it was not seasickness or the nicer sounding mal de mer,by eating me sarnies soon after.
Mick F
Title: Re: Re: Shannon
Post by: dpbarry on April 30, 2013, 10:05:45 am
never been seasick in my life,but I have been sick at sea a couple of times!As a one time sufferer of Migraine,very strong sun used to affect me with a headache.If I was sick,the headache started getting better.
I proved the point that it was not seasickness or the nicer sounding mal de mer,by eating me sarnies soon after.
Mick F

Hmm.. Interesting. I'm fine after I'm sick. Even go to the anchor locker when doing anchoring and if yer going to be sck, that one place that will ensure you do  {-)
 
After suffering awful headaches for years, I discovered accidentally when going through lifeboat medical that I had high blood pressure. After going on meds, headaches have all but stopped. Pity the bl**dy seasickness didn't all but stop. Doesn't happen all that time but enough to make me query being a possible navigator. Will see how things go over the next year  :-))
 
Declan
Title: Re: Re: Shannon
Post by: derekwarner on April 30, 2013, 10:35:52 am
No never
0400 on a 4 tonne fishing boat at Wollongong harbour on a Saturday morning preparing for a 15 km voyage to go long line fishing  >:-o
Eat five Vegemite sandwiches & a cup of tea before we cast off  %)
0400 on a 4700 tonne HMAS destroyer @ 30+ knots into a jolly green sea 80km off the coast O0 to check a gun or missile launcher.........
Eat five Vegemite sandwiches & a cup of tea  :-))
Derek
Title: Re: Re: Shannon
Post by: Rottweiler on April 30, 2013, 11:02:31 am
            This subject is now becoming sickening <:(  May I politely request that we all please revert to the topic of Shannon Lifeboat? Thanks :embarrassed: ;) {-) {-) {-)
Title: SEA Sickness
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 30, 2013, 11:10:12 am

A new topic close to all our hearts.

Anyone been sea sick ?



Ken

Title: Re: SEA Sickness
Post by: Shipmate60 on April 30, 2013, 11:16:27 am
When rough for the first 48 hrs.
Not brilliant for Ships Engineer!!!

Bob
Title: Re: SEA Sickness
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 30, 2013, 11:20:39 am

I suffer with it,  so am now land based.  I found out half way across the Altlanic whilst sitting in the ships theatre watching a film.   Horrible .............. O0

Seems the only cure is to sit under a tree.

ken

Title: Re: SEA Sickness
Post by: Neil on April 30, 2013, 11:23:18 am
Henry Blogg......most famous lifeboat Coxs'n in history suffered from it.................so even the greats do.......no need to be worried Kenny {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: SEA Sickness
Post by: derekwarner on April 30, 2013, 11:30:12 am
No never
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Eat five Vegemite sandwiches & a cup of tea before we cast off  (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/Smileys/Tug/rolleyes1.gif)
0400 on a 4700 tonne HMAS destroyer @ 30+ knots into a jolly green sea 80km off the coast (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/Smileys/Tug/smiley.gif) to check a gun or missile launcher.........
Eat five Vegemite sandwiches & a cup of tea  (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/Smileys/Tug/thumbup.gif)
Derek
Title: Re: SEA Sickness
Post by: sharkbite0 on April 30, 2013, 11:43:49 am
I suffer with it,  so am now land based.  I found out half way across the Altlanic whilst sitting in the ships theatre watching a film.   Horrible .............. O0

Seems the only cure is to sit under a tree.

ken
having never suffered sea sickness i cant coment. but would like to ask ken if he found a tree in the middel of the atlantic  :} lol
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: boatmadman on April 30, 2013, 12:00:01 pm
I was seasick during the first hit of rough weather on every ship (tankers) I joined. After that first baptism by technicolour yawn I would be ok for the rest of the trip - - something to do with getting my sea legs back perhaps?


The worst bit was having to keep working in the hot oily engine room whilst retching on empty guts.


One rough run up the North sea ended at Grangemouth, I went ashore with the gangplank and felt better within seconds!


Ian
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: Jerry C on April 30, 2013, 12:07:41 pm
Seasick, no. Sick of the sea? Oh yes.
Jerry.
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: dpbarry on April 30, 2013, 12:59:06 pm
I can still to this day remember the first time I was seasick.   I was 14. Everything was going brilliant whilst out pot hauling with my uncle just east of Hook Head in Co Wexford in Southern Ireland.  I was hauling away and baitin then he decided to stop for a tea break. Out came the sarnies and the tea and along with it my guts.
It wasn't the sarnies that did the damage as they were lovely.  It was the bl**dy black tea!!  >>:-(
 
Don't know why the tea made me heave but he wasn't best pleased having to go back in and deposit me onto the harbour steps. Never prayed and kissed as much stone/concrete since that day  :-X
 
Declan
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 30, 2013, 02:09:06 pm
I have never been seasick but have felt queasy one or twice, notably when sitting below on a bouncing yacht (OK when I lay in the bunk though) and once when I was trying to clear a snarl up on the roller reefing drum after the foresail had done something it shouldn't - the bow was really pitching up and down.
 
I do think that just about everyone is susceptible to sea sickness though, it's just a matter of at what point you succumb.
 
Interestingly, RN research indicated that it isn't the rolling that causes it but the pitching and that is one reason that later designs of destroyers had the bridge set further back to reduce the motion. A couple of years ago my Wife felt ill on the QM2. Our cabin was well forward so in a sense we were near one end of a giant see saw and the vertical motion must have been quite considerable, you could certainly feel yourself becoming alternately light and heavy. Back aft in the restaurant the motion was scarcely noticeable as it must have been pretty much at the fulcrum - which is no doubt why it was put there.
 
Colin
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: dpbarry on April 30, 2013, 02:32:57 pm
Back aft in the restaurant the motion was scarcely noticeable as it must have been pretty much at the fulcrum - which is no doubt why it was put there.
 
Colin

Strangely the weirdest sensation I had was on the Sea Pussy from Dun laoghaire in Dublin across to Holyhead to pick up a relief lifeboat for the station. Head and mid torso was fine but legs and feet felt weird. The other guys were laughing as it was my first time actually on the Sea Cat. Once the Captain had it on automatic pilot, the constant altering of the jetdrives give the impression of a strange dance as my legs and feet were going to and fro with the motion of the vessel. After coming back with the lifeboat, the following week wasn't much better. Every time I started walking, it felt like I was walking on something spongy.
 
Declan
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 30, 2013, 03:48:24 pm
Yes, the catamaran fastcraft can have an unpredictable and often unpleasant motion which earns them the soubriquet of 'vomit comets'.
 
Conventional craft have a more regular motion that is easier to adapt to.
 
Colin
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: pugwash on April 30, 2013, 05:27:19 pm
Nearest I got to being seasick was on a yacht delivery trip across Biscay  in a force 9- but I was fine as long
as I was on the wheel or in my bunk  but SWMBO was down in the galley cooking up a seriously hot curry and didn't seem
to be bothered at all.  Mind you the rest of the crew were really suffering.
Geoff
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: CF-FZG on April 30, 2013, 06:31:10 pm
Never suffered from it, the worst weather was a F9 gusting 10 in the English Channel in quite a heavy sea in a 34 footer, we turned it into a submarine twice :-)

SWMBO on the other hand gets seasick in a glass-bottomed-boat, according to the kids she was asked not to go on that boat again :D
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: grendel on April 30, 2013, 07:21:54 pm
my wife had the misfortune to be landsick, after our 3rd day of cross channel trips - some in quite rough weather, sh was fine in the car as long as it was moving, but as soon as we stopped she felt queasy - took her 3 days after we got home to stop feeling queasy - now me - I only get seasick if its calm, usually if I get a whiff of diesel while boarding, give me rough and I'm fine.
Grendel
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: BarryM on May 01, 2013, 06:08:27 pm
Nigh-on three day trip on an OSV between N. Sea ports. The ship was fresh out of the builder's yard and late for delivery at the next port and so we pushed on at maximum speed into a F9/10; one moment looking down into the troughs, the next looking up at the sky. There had been insufficient time to wash out the newly-painted (two-pack epoxy) fresh water tanks and thus the drinking water was contaminated with thinners and stank to heaven. Of course the cook was also cooking with the same water and the toilets were flushed with it.  <:( Thus, as you honked up your epoxy-flavoured food into the porcelain telephone, paint fumes came up to meet you. Not a man was any colour but green.
The final touch was that the bunk mattresses had not been delivered before sailing and only sleeping bags were available which had no grip on the mattress well. Thus as the ship pitched, heaved and rolled and corkscrewed, you slid from one end of the well to the other. I have never been as sick as on that voyage nor as happy to make port.
Barry M
 
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: Bryan Young on May 01, 2013, 09:48:42 pm
Sea sickness is horrible. First you get disorientation. Then because of that you begin to sweat. Then the old stomach decides to join in the fun. Life as you once knew it no longer exists. In fact, the sufferer will most likely fervently wish that he/she had never been born. But the vestigial knowledge of being "alive" remains......and you wonder why. Please God, just let me die now.
I actually don't believe any "deep-water" seafarer that says he's never been seasick. It comes in varying forms. Quite often no "barfing" is required. A lot of it is physical endurance. A 2 or 3 week passage through a constant swell is a real killer. Legs, back, head all ache something awful. Then when you get to bed it's almost like having the "whirly pits" as there's no point of reference for your one available eye to focus on. Not that an eyeball can help all that much. You need a real horizon. No good at night.
My first 18 months at sea were sheer purgatory ....but eventually I came to realise that it was all down to "balance" and anticipation of the next movement of the ship. Then came the adjustment of the breathing. Ship goes up, you breathe in. Ship goes down, you breathe out.
Doesn't help the aches and pains much, but at least sleep will arrive. BY.
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: dreadnought72 on May 01, 2013, 10:11:33 pm
I was sailing an Enterprise dinghy in a severe wind-against-the-tide chop, off the Camel Estuary in Cornwall. After going up and down short, steep waves at least twenty dozenteen times, I realised that my stomach was out of sync with the motion. I had a taste of bile in my mouth after one furious descent, and thought "this is it!"  :((

And then I thought: "But I've no time to be sick. I've a tiller in one hand, the sheet in the other, and my feet are under the toestraps. I'm fully preoccupied with keeping this thing upright, and being sick can't be on the menu."

So it wasn't. Very much a moment where mind overcame matter.  :-))

Armed with this experience, a few years later I was Dover-bound on a cross-Channel ferry in truly horrendous weather. People all around me were losing their breakfasts, their dinners-the-night-before, their afternoon-teas-before-that, and their wills-to-live. Vomit was sloshing around all the passenger areas. At one point I was making my way up the stairs at the aft end of the pitching boat, and found it really hard work. For a moment or two I felt that I weighed twice what I normally do, as the ferry pitched nose-down into a deep trough. "This is amazing" I thought. "You'd pay pounds for this at a funfair." Followed very rapidly by the thought that I'd be experiencing the inverse in a few moments: and it's true - I had to hold onto the handrail because my feet literally left the stair treads as we pitched nose-up.  {-)

Andy
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: grendel on May 02, 2013, 12:00:38 pm
we had a fun trip like that from dunkerque one time, the boat was chopping across the waves and it felt like the boat was hitting the wave and stopping, each wave crashed through the ship, they stopped serving food - most of the crew were suffering and wearing the wristbands - it felt like the ship was shaking itself to pieces, after our extended crossing (we had to wait for two tugs to push us against the wall as we berthed as the bow and stern thrusters couldnt manage - I believe we were the last ship that docked, before they cancelled the crossings.
It was great fun and I felt fine all the way, mainly because I made sure I could watch the horizon, where on a gentle swell I can feel quite queasy.
Grendel
Title: Re: Sea sick....
Post by: wbeedie on May 02, 2013, 12:39:42 pm
Any time I used to join a new fishing vessel I would hurl for three days , only drinking warm water so as not to shock stomach , third morning full breakfast and gone ,, found it worse when working on boats that were fully sheltered , havent been bothered for a couple of years now , but at its height I would be gutting fish , turn the head look down and spew without stopping gutting and keep going , when it first happened I wished the world would end as its the worst feeling ever , apparently chewing on ginger helps  worst thing is lying down as you cant stop thinking about it