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Title: To our Australian friends
Post by: steam up on June 22, 2013, 01:01:39 pm
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA  ;D ;D ;D ;D HA HA HA HA  21/23 {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on June 22, 2013, 10:41:46 pm
If four countries who all play international rugby as individual nations, could not field a composite team that was capable of beating any single nation, they should all take up croquet. I have always regarded the Lions tours as a bit of a joke for that very reason. Just imagine if Australia and New Zealand fielded a composite team (not that there would be too many Aussies in it :o ), that team would beat anything put up against it.


Don't get me wrong, it was a good, tough, enjoyable game of Rugby, but Australia lost its principal kicker after just 50 seconds, carried off on a stretcher, then failed to convert penalties and conversions worth 14 points. Leigh Halfpenny, on the other hand, only missed one kick - and therein lies the difference. If I was a Lions supporter I would be very worried, as last night was Australia's first match after a long break, and we really should have won comfortably. The Lions are on tour and have played a number of matches leading up to the test, so were primed to go. I can't wait for Melbourne.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: SailorGreg on June 22, 2013, 10:49:31 pm
It was a good game of rugby and either side could have won.  I am going to hold back on any triumphalism until the series is settled - 3-0 if I'm any judge!   <*< <*< <*<

Greg
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Neil on June 22, 2013, 11:12:33 pm
don't worry, Peter......he who crows loudest, usually ends up in the soup {-) {-) {-) {-) .......your lads will probably get their revenge next game {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: steam up on June 22, 2013, 11:12:55 pm
Enjoy the moment thats what sport is all about so:
HAHAHAHAHAHA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: derekwarner on June 22, 2013, 11:27:31 pm
 <*< ...& Neil says........"he who crows loudest, usually ends up in the soup"  .......... >>:-(  we don't have crows in OZ......but plenty of chicken visitors for chop chicken broth?..... O0  .....Derek
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on June 22, 2013, 11:34:24 pm
What's rugby??  :o :o :o
Thought it was a place name %) %) %)
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: BrianB6 on June 23, 2013, 12:17:20 am
What's rugby??  :o :o :o
Thought it was a place name %) %) %)
It is.
It's the place where schoolboys run with a funny shaped ball because they cannot kick a round one.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on June 23, 2013, 01:53:34 am
It is.
It's the place where schoolboys run with a funny shaped ball because they cannot kick a round one.  :embarrassed:
Thank you, it is now becoming clearer,  O0 O0 so it is not football  <:( <:( but running with a ball  %% %% {-) {-)
 
What will they think of next, probably hitting a little ball with a stick %) %)
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on June 23, 2013, 11:15:55 pm
Neil, our lads will do well to beat the Lions, but they did show in the first match that the Lions are vulnerable. We will just have to wait and see.


Derek, what do you mean "we don't have crows in Australia"?? There are millions of them. Check this site if you don't believe me http://www.ozanimals.com/wildlife/Bird/Crows,Ravens.html (http://www.ozanimals.com/wildlife/Bird/Crows,Ravens.html) For the difference between crows and ravens, this site is useful http://www.mdavid.com.au/birds/ravensorcrows.shtml (http://www.mdavid.com.au/birds/ravensorcrows.shtml) There are a lot of them near us, although not as many as there used to be, but that may have something to do with the weather, which has been quite wet.


The Adelaide Aussie rules team is even called The Crows.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: derekwarner on June 23, 2013, 11:44:37 pm
 .... >>:-( Peter....just don't tell them about our crows......... :o .....crow soup........YUK  <*< .......chicken soup is OK  :-)) ......& BTW....I thought the only team in Adelaide was the Painters & Dockers from Port Adelaide...... {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)  a splendid bunch of individuals.........Derek
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: mudway on June 23, 2013, 11:52:36 pm
The nickname for people from South Australia is a "croweater". One word not two.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on June 29, 2013, 11:08:14 pm
I can't help noticing that Steam Up is not laughing now, after Australia outplayed the Lions (or should that be pussycats?) last night. The Lion's reliance on goal kicking was shown up after Australia scored the only try of the match and, but for some poor handling, should have scored more. Having the main kicker, Christian Leali'ifano in the side for the full match made a huge difference to the Wallabies. He was injured in the opening 50 seconds of the first game, and Australia had to rely on second and third choice kickers, meaning that a possible, even probable, 14 points were missed. Had they been scored, the Lions would now have their tails between their legs. As it stands, the decider in Sydney should be a great match, and the Wallabies showed enough last night to give me confidence that the Green and Gold can triumph. Bring on Sydney.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Neil on June 29, 2013, 11:17:54 pm
don't worry, Peter......he who crows loudest, usually ends up in the soup {-) {-) {-) {-) .......your lads will probably get their revenge next game {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{

like I said........revenge is sweet {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on June 29, 2013, 11:26:52 pm
Ya gotta love it  O0 O0 {-) {-)  but let's not rub it in too much,  OK just for a little while {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: steam up on June 29, 2013, 11:46:43 pm
Sorry for the lack of a response Peter but a double facture of the wrist distracted me a little.
Well done Austrailia a good result for a bunch of colonial ex pats and Pacific islanders that New Zealand did not want (reminds me about the New Zealand MP who said he was not worried about migration from his country to Australia as both countries benefited from an increased IQ {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) ).
The wife asked way I was bothering to post last week said I was interested to see if an Australian moderator would bite you did.
Bring on next week.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: steam up on July 06, 2013, 01:01:33 pm
16-41
Best comment of the day:
"I love it when thousands of Australians practice their fire drill during a sporting occasion"
 :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :}
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 07, 2013, 04:35:58 am
Australia was outplayed in all departments by the Lions. From the kick off, a knock on by Australia led to a Lions try in the first few minutes, and from then on they were never headed. At least, contrary to the usual northern hemisphere grind, the Lions scored 4 good tries, although the inevitable flood of scrum penalties helped greatly. Australia was left ruing the lack of a reliable kicker in the first match which, as it turned out, would have given us the series. However, it was not to be, and the better team (by far) was successful on the night.


From Australia's point of view, the economy received a huge injection from the thousands of Lions supporters, who all seemed to spend up big while they were here :-))  When interviewed for the TV news, one supporter said his spend would probably equal the total economy of a small country {-)  They will all be going home suntanned and happy, leaving the Aussies to reflect on the one that got away.


Well done Lions O0


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on July 07, 2013, 07:28:29 am
Now hear this,
 
What really put the wind up was that the Lions had 007 on hand, with orders from M to............................ :o :o :o :o
so, as discretion is the better part of valour  O0 O0 the Lions were given the match  O0 O0 %) %)
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: html on July 07, 2013, 12:46:17 pm
And now the Ashes series starts on Wednesday, it is not going to be a good couple on months for Australian sport.  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
 
Brian
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: steam up on July 07, 2013, 01:28:37 pm
 
Excellent response from Peter a big thumbs up mate
  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: dave301bounty on July 07, 2013, 07:26:36 pm
OH YES    THE ASHES .NOW THERE IS A GENTLEMANS SPORT .
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Neil on July 07, 2013, 08:28:11 pm
Now hear this,
 
What really put the wind up was that the Lions had 007 on hand, with orders from M to............................ :o :o :o :o
so, as discretion is the better part of valour  O0 O0 the Lions were given the match  O0 O0 %) %)

raaarty..........you should write a book on these revelations.............would keep our government confused for years, lol...........not that they need much confusing.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on July 07, 2013, 09:11:19 pm

Excellent response from Peter a big thumbs up mate
  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Thats why he is a Moderator  O0 O0 O0 O0 %) %)
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 07, 2013, 11:39:52 pm
The whole of Great Britain should now be in party mode. Not only did the Lions win, but the perennial bridesmaid, Andy Murray, has won Wimbledon :o , the first British player to do so for 77 years. Not since Fred Perry won in 1936 (the year before I was born) has a British player won the men's singles. With the Ashes due to start soon, 2013 could be a great year for British sport O0 .


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: BarryM on July 07, 2013, 11:47:21 pm
The best Scottish player................ %) %) %)
Barry M
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 08, 2013, 05:18:09 am
Barry, it seems to me, from English sports press reports, that he is only a Scot when he loses, when he wins he's British :-)


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: pugwash on July 08, 2013, 07:44:51 am
Now, now Peter,  Alex Salmond is trying to cause a rift between the English and the
Scots without you stirring the pot.
Geoff
English but married to three Scots (not all at the same time)
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Neil on July 08, 2013, 07:54:11 am
I can't abide the guy, myself, after his remarks some years ago about him not being British, and therefore not supporting" British teams, plus his (imho) total lack of personality,...........but even I felt a certain great amount of pride, joy and happiness for him last night, especially when he climbed into the thronging swords of people to hug his mum............
 
My impressions changed, and I felt embarrassed and humbled by his achievements............
 
WELL DONE ANDY MURREY.!!!!! :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 08, 2013, 07:58:14 am
Geoff, I thought Edward I caused a rift between the English and the Scots in the 13th century, which has simmered ever since {-) , Alex Salmond is just keeping it going. Some of my ancestors came from Dunoon in Scotland, and others from near Sevenoaks, in Kent, (all of whom were free settlers) so I've got ties to both camps. I don't favour either side, although I do enjoy a good pipe band O0 .


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Neil on July 08, 2013, 09:39:32 am
small world, Peter............we visit Dunoon every year whilst on our annual hols to largs. quick trip from Gourock on the Western ferries now that Calmac don't do car traffic any more..........a lovely little spot and some very nice quaint little shops.
 
Have you ever visited there yourselves............. neil.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 08, 2013, 11:32:32 pm
Yes we have, Neil, way back in 1993. My great grandfather, Archibald Currie and his brother Duncan emigrated to Australia from Dunoon in 1855, and settled near Lismore, northern NSW. They named their farm Dunoon, and this name was eventually given to the village which now exists nearby. When Lismore was declared a municipality, in 1879, Archibald was one of the first Lismore City councillors, so my family, on my mother's side, has a long association (by Australian standards :-) ) with this area.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: vnkiwi on July 09, 2013, 07:36:49 am
But the English did have their secret weapon, The Kiwi coach of the Aussies.
cheers
vnkiwi   :-))
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Neil on July 09, 2013, 08:00:15 am
Yes we have, Neil, way back in 1993. My great grandfather, Archibald Currie and his brother Duncan emigrated to Australia from Dunoon in 1855, and settled near Lismore, northern NSW. They named their farm Dunoon, and this name was eventually given to the village which now exists nearby. When Lismore was declared a municipality, in 1879, Archibald was one of the first Lismore City councillors, so my family, on my mother's side, has a long association (by Australian standards :-) ) with this area.


Peter.

I knew Lismore well when I lived in Ozz Peter......had a friend who's parents owned a farm just outside Liz and we'd motorcycle up from Canberra for holidays on the farm..........I cooked a traditional English Christmas dinner one chrissy whilst up there for all our mates, lol...bread sauce and all..........enjoyed the little town......nearly bought a water bed from a furniture shop on the main street to bring home with me......their name was Sullivan or Hatton, can't remember now in the mists of time, lol
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: BarryM on July 09, 2013, 08:11:45 am
But the English did have their secret weapon, The Kiwi coach of the Aussies.
cheers
vnkiwi   :-))
"English"?? The British and Irish Lions???
Barry M
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: vnkiwi on July 09, 2013, 08:23:51 am
well, that worked  {-)
 %)
vnkiwi   :-))
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Neil on July 09, 2013, 08:36:27 am
"English"?? The British and Irish Lions???
Barry M

and two thirds of the final winning team on Saturday were Welsh...............suppose they have to be good at something......b****** awful at singing,  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Jerry C on July 09, 2013, 10:08:18 am
Ooh, now there's nasty isn't it.
Jerry.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: BarryM on July 09, 2013, 03:22:45 pm
If you don't believe Neil, try listening (for as long as you can stand it) to Tom Jones. I rest my case. :P
Barry M
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: john44 on July 09, 2013, 04:08:46 pm

WELL DONE ANDY MURREY.!!!!! :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Yes well done, but now they are speculating he should get a knighthood.
People like David Beckham have done more for the country and charity,
and I think more deserving of that honour.
Still thats just my view.

john
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on July 09, 2013, 07:05:04 pm
Never mind all that, tomorrow the real battle starts. THE ASHES!!!


Peter, are you there?


I can't wait.. %%
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: sparkey on July 09, 2013, 08:20:27 pm
 {-) This is the one I have been waiting for, the ashes are always great matches I will be biting my nails the ones on the end of my fingers not the metal things that would be silly,     Ray. {-) {-) {-)   
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 10, 2013, 12:13:45 am
I'm here, Barry O0  I'm not too confident about the Ashes, although with Darren Lehmann as the new coach, we may have a sporting chance. I live in hope :-)


The Lions coach, Warren Gatland, is also a Kiwi, and he is also coach of Wales. No wonder 10 of the team were Welsh :o  Australia now has an Australian coach again, following Kiwi, Robbie Deans', sacking. Ewen McKenzie, the current Queensland Reds, and former NSW Waratahs coach, has been given the job. Hopefully he will be able to turn things around.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on July 10, 2013, 06:59:55 am
Peter,


Losing to a very good Lions team was no disgrace and does not mean that Australian rugby is broken.


As for the cricket team, well time will tell, but I do not see how a coach, 16 days into the job can turn what looks like a poor side into a good one. That said, it is a funny old game and anything can happen.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Hellboy Paul on July 10, 2013, 10:43:21 am

The Lions coach, Warren Gatland, is also a Kiwi, and he is also coach of Wales. No wonder 10 of the team were Welsh :o   



True Gatland is the Wales coach and yes he did pick 10 Welsh players to start in the final test... He had to pick a team he thought could win and like it or not Wales at the moment are the on form  team in the NH (back to back 6 Nations titles) and Gatland is without doubt the best NH coach at the moment (even if he is a Kiwi!!) He took a lot of flak for dropping O'Driscoll and even more for a predominantly Welsh starting 15.


I am now really looking forward to the Rugby World Cup in 2015 with Wales, Australia & England in the same group, can't wait!!!!




Paul..
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: BarryM on July 10, 2013, 03:31:33 pm
When was the last time Wales beat Australia......? :P   
As for the Ashes: well, yes, I'm almost certain that, possibly, I might, with the right wind and if the runes are favourable, more or less, get enthusiastic about the bat and ball game but I have my doubts.  :P
Barry M
 
 
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 10, 2013, 11:24:53 pm
Barry (Footski), a lot of Australia's problems were caused by poor discipline, both on and off the field, and former coach, Micky Arthur, seemed unable or unwilling to do anything about it. Darren Lehmann, on the other hand, will stand no nonsense, and may just be able to focus the team on playing good cricket.


Day 1 of the test was quite remarkable, with Australia's bowlers dominating England, but our batsmen were unable to keep the momentum going. 14 wickets in one day, on what appeared to be a good track, is unbelievable. Day 2 should be very interesting.


Australian Rugby is certainly not broken, but it is rather dented at present. We have the players, and it will be very interesting to see if Ewen McKenzie can get them playing to their full potential.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on July 11, 2013, 07:23:08 am
You are quite right Peter. We have a lot of respect for Lehman over here in Europe. Still after another incredible Ashes day, I am really looking forward to tomorrow. I don't know about you, but not much gets done when the games are on!
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on July 11, 2013, 03:04:00 pm
When I posted the above last night, I was wondering who on earth Ashton Agar was.......well today we know.......Absolutely incredible from the young man. We reckon, you Aussies picked him as a batsman but old us he was a bowler.....Very well done to the young man. :-))
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 12, 2013, 01:19:21 am
Even for Australians it was a case of Ashton who??? He was picked as a bowling all rounder after playing the grand total of 10 first class matches, so the selectors obviously saw something in him. His selection was certainly vindicated after last night's (our time) performance; the best score ever in test cricket by a number 11, and a record last wicket stand with Philip Hughes. Mind you, after the middle order debacle something special was needed. I believe that, given Australia's tendency to collapse in the middle, England are still favourites, particularly with Pietersen still at the crease.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Liverbudgie on July 12, 2013, 10:50:52 am
I reckon that this lad has a secret stash of Tim Tams. ;)
LB
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Jerry C on July 12, 2013, 12:01:13 pm
Ahhh, Timtams, Lamingtons and Moreton Bay Bugs. Nostalgia's not what it was
Jerry.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: sparkey on July 12, 2013, 07:23:33 pm
 :-)) Hi,to our Aussie mates down under I wonder if you can help me can anyone tell me where the young lad Ashton Agar comes from? I have some relations in Aus named Agar,which I believe came from Port Elizabeth, my aunt and myself exchanged Christmas cards for many years until one was sent back not known at this address two years ago,since then I have had no contact with them.I would be very proud to have such a talented young man as a relative,I don't know how common the name Agar is down under,regards,Ray. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))   
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 12, 2013, 11:21:07 pm
Ashton Agar was born and grew up in Melbourne, Victoria.


More info here, http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/things-you-may-not-know-about-ashton-agar/story-fni2fnmo-1226678306817 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/things-you-may-not-know-about-ashton-agar/story-fni2fnmo-1226678306817)


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: sparkey on July 13, 2013, 06:40:13 am
 :-)) Thanks for info.Peter,Ray. :-))
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 15, 2013, 12:11:21 am
Well, the first Ashes test has been played and won. It was an unbelievably close, tense match, and the winning margin of 15 runs reflects that. Unfortunately, most of the press talk has been centred on poor umpiring decisions, affecting both teams, and perceived unsportsmanlike conduct by Stuart Broad, rather than the tight cricket. Unbelievably, he was cleared of breaching cricket's spirit, by his father who himself was often involved in controversy. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/13/stuart-broad-cleared-father-ashes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/13/stuart-broad-cleared-father-ashes)


The question of whether to "walk" or not has been discussed many times, and opinion is severely divided. Some staunchly maintain that you play to the umpire's decision, others say if you know you're out, you walk. Former Aussie wicket keeper, Adam Gilchrist, once famously walked, even though the umpire had given him not out. Some sections of the press reviled him for letting his team down, while others praised him for very sportsmanlike conduct. I think a large majority of the Australian cricket loving public supported his action, believing it upheld the Aussie tradition of fair play. In Broad's case, the fact that he hit the ball was plain to see, and how the umpire missed it I do not know. All I will say is that umpire, Aleem Dar, has a history of monumental blunders, and how he continues to be appointed to major matches has me shaking my head.


That said, England is now 1 - 0 up in their defence of the Urn, and Australia has to put the loss behind them and focus on improving their performance if they want to bring the Ashes home.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on July 15, 2013, 12:36:01 pm
Yes Peter, a superb game of cricket. I loved every minute of it and the Aussies really have shown what they are made of and can be very proud of their performance in the match. I look forward to the rest of the series.
As for the controversy, it was only controversial because the media chose to make it so. Broad did no differently to Michael Clarke, neither of them walked, preferring to let the umpire make the decision. The fact that he made a big error with Broad has nothing to do with the players. Personally, I like to see players walk, but I have to admit that these days, that is expecting far too much.


Roll on Thursday.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: mikearace on July 15, 2013, 03:58:16 pm
unsportsmanlike conduct by Stuart Broad, rather than the tight cricket. Unbelievably, he was cleared of breaching cricket's spirit, by his father who himself was often involved in controversy. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/13/stuart-broad-cleared-father-ashes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/13/stuart-broad-cleared-father-ashes)


All I will say is that umpire, Aleem Dar, has a history of monumental blunders, and how he continues to be appointed to major matches has me shaking my head.


Peter.

Peter, I agree that batsmen should walk but it has to be universal and it cant be selective.   I am not sure how and why you think it is unbelievable Broad was cleared of unsportsmanlike behaviour?   Hadden clearly nicked the ball, granted not as much as Broad but he still nicked it and he would be aware of that but didn't walk.  So personally I don't see why Broad is pilloried and Hadden isn't.  Both nicked the ball, both knew it and both refused to walk an both times the umpire made the wrong decision.  I assume you mean that you find it unbelievable that Hadden also didn't walk and he should be banned? 
 
Sadly sportsmanship went out of cricket a long time ago.  Probably around the time that one nation considered it acceptable to bowl a last ball underarm to win a match!!! Countries name escapes me for a moment...........
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Bryan Young on July 15, 2013, 06:54:15 pm
Whatever your views, I find that today (Monday) has been a bit flat without that nail-biting finish. Both sides played their part. I feel a bit sorry for the Aussies.....but that's cricket. BY.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on July 15, 2013, 07:44:43 pm
Whatever your views, I find that today (Monday) has been a bit flat without that nail-biting finish. Both sides played their part. I feel a bit sorry for the Aussies.....but that's cricket. BY.


Quite true Brian.....very flat today........but soon be Thursday!
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Bryan Young on July 15, 2013, 09:10:17 pm
The only real problem is that I have to choose between going to the lake on Sunday or listen/watch the test match!....better for me if it finishes on the saturday!. BY.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Jerry C on July 15, 2013, 10:04:16 pm
Take a radio with you.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 16, 2013, 12:47:40 am
Mike, both Haddin and Clarke were rightly given out, but their nicks took modern technology to pick up. Both were so faint that only a very tiny mark showed on their bats, thanks to the hot spot camera. I seriously doubt if either batsman was aware of it, however, as Michael Clarke later said, when he saw the replay in the dressing room, it was the correct decision. Broad's, on the other hand, was so obvious I can't believe the umpire missed it.


The fact that Broad senior cleared his son of "breaching the spirit of cricket", after having previously banned West Indies keeper, Denesh Ramden for claiming a catch that had not carried, calls his impartiality into serious doubt.


I believe that sportsmanship went out of the game long before the disgraceful "Underarm Incident" >:-o  My mind goes back to the infamous Bodyline series, admittedly before my time, just :-)  something that, rightly or wrongly has remained in the Australian cricketing psyche ever since :o  Also, sportsmanship became even more of a rarity as the money involved increased.


Nevertheless, what happened in the first match is now history and, as Footski said, "Roll on Thursday.


Bryan, I hope it does finish on Saturday, with Australia winning inside 3 days {-)


Peter.


Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on July 16, 2013, 06:52:24 am
Dream on Peter..... %% %%
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 16, 2013, 07:15:20 am
Dream on Peter..... %% %%


I live in hope O0


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Stavros on July 16, 2013, 09:52:14 pm
Oh Lord even I am turning English for this one  O0 O0 O0 {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)


Dave
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 16, 2013, 10:28:19 pm
I never thought I'd see the day when you said something like that, Dave {-) {-)


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Stavros on July 16, 2013, 10:29:25 pm
 :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

But I bet you there is WELSH blood in there SOMEWHERE



Dave
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: derekwarner on July 17, 2013, 03:21:29 am
Goodness :o .........I don't believe I have previously commented on this thread  >>:-( as I am not a cricket fan.........
However this mornings news is abysmal.......[the previous coach is taking Cricket Australia to the Fair Work Commission.......for unfair dismissal]
We also have a looming federal parliamentary  election...........   <:( <*<
I am not sure which display of incompetence is worse............
Bring back the Waugh brothers & John Howard may be the answer......... O0 ......Derek
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: spearfish99 on July 17, 2013, 10:20:35 pm
Sadly sportsmanship went out of cricket a long time ago.  Probably around the time that one nation considered it acceptable to bowl a last ball underarm to win a match!!! Countries name escapes me for a moment...........
I believe that underarm bowling was the norm until ladies started playing the game and couldn't do it in that fashion due to the crinoline skirts that they wore to play.!! Do agree that sportsmanship is a thing of the past in professional sport. 
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: pugwash on July 20, 2013, 09:13:33 pm
Well it looks like we have finally found a batsman who can do the job,
Joe Root is in the middle of the best innings at Lords by an Englishman since
Wally Hammond in 1938.  The Aussies have had a jinx on us at Lords but
it finally seems to have been overturned
Heading for a 2-nil lead
Geoff
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Neil on July 20, 2013, 09:26:58 pm
don't count yer chickens Geoff, till the last abll  of the last over, {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
 
English cricket is riddled with greater disasters than the Titanic %% %% %% %% <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on July 20, 2013, 09:47:47 pm
......and there was me saying nothing, just enjoying it all, with a slight smile on my face........As Neil says, it is not over yet, but world records are now needed........either that or some snow!
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on July 20, 2013, 10:47:11 pm
I believe that underarm bowling was the norm until ladies started playing the game and couldn't do it in that fashion due to the crinoline skirts that they wore to play.!! Do agree that sportsmanship is a thing of the past in professional sport.

Couldn't agree more, also raises doubts about match/game fixing, yes even cricket <:( <:( <:(
 
Reminds me of that song "where has all the sport gone long time passing......."
Alas it is all about the money/sponsors/takings/etc >:-o >:-o >:-o
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on July 20, 2013, 10:53:42 pm
My worst fears are being realised {:-{  The Australian batting has been woeful and, while the bowlers have tried hard, England is seemingly hitting them at will. I really thought that, after the close match at Trent Bridge, our batsmen would show more fight - how wrong I was.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: mikearace on August 12, 2013, 07:45:15 pm
I was thinking about making a paper ship but I don't have a clue where to start.  I was wondering if any of our Australian friends could help as I heard the Australian cricket team are experts at folding.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on August 12, 2013, 10:09:32 pm
Oomph......like a punch to the midriff.


It was great to watch, if you live north of the equator!
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: steam up on August 12, 2013, 10:27:54 pm
Australian sport the gift that just keeps giving. :-))
On a more serious note do the national teams reflect the demographic structure of the country across a range of sports?
I ask the question because a TV news programme asked why Australian sport was in such a slump,every single person interviewed
looked like a POM.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: mikearace on August 12, 2013, 10:28:28 pm
It was great to watch and test cricket at its best.  Clarke was gracious in his post match comments when he was clearly disappointed and Harris put in a terrific performance that in many cases would have been a match winning performance yet found himself on the losing side.  The gap between the teams certainly has been closer than the 3-0 series score would suggest. But, I do have to say it was most satisfying listening to Warne and McGrath have to try and find a way of tasting humble pie without actually eating it.  Warne's comments this afternoon were disrespectful at best.  After tweeting in the middle of the afternoon how horribly bad a cricket captain Alastair Cook was and how this was easy for Australia it was hilarious watching and listening to him try to turn his comments around.  In the Olympics BBC had a thoughtful, intelligent Ian Thorpe who was a joy to listen to and it was an inspired choice by the BBC. For the Ashes the BBC got McGrath and Sky Warne.  Great cricketers without doubt but two of the most arrogant, annoying myopic idiots that added nothing intelligent to commentary.     
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: pugwash on August 12, 2013, 11:49:20 pm
When I  parked the car to go fishing the Aussies were 140 - 1 and I thought they had this one
in the bag. What a surprise when I sat down to watch the highlights this evening.
Well done, I do think this has been one of the best test matches of the series so far.
Geoff
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on August 13, 2013, 12:41:29 am
Mike, I can't say I agree with you about McGrath, but I certainly do about Shane Warne. He may have been a great cricketer, but as a person I dislike him intensely. His comments were disgraceful, to say the least, and why he would be called upon to be in the commentary team is beyond me. As far as I'm concerned he's an idiot <*<


After being 1 for 109, Australia looked to be in the box seat to win the match, but poor batting let us down again. However, credit must go to the England bowlers, particularly Stuart Broad, who bowled magnificently. From an Australian perspective, Ryan Harris did not deserve to be on the losing side, and neither did Chris Rogers, but most of the rest were mediocre, at best.


As you say, 3-0 is probably not a fair assessment of the difference between the teams, Australia should have won in Manchester but for the weather, and even in the first test some poor umpiring decisions may have cost us the game. However, there's no doubt that the better side won, but I'm hopeful that we can turn it around in Australia.


PS: Why there are two Ashes series in the one calendar year has me bemused.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: tritsch on August 13, 2013, 02:05:59 am
Peter asks :     Why there are two Ashes series in the one calendar year has me bemused.

I thought it was to give Australia a second chance.



Tony T
Bungendore NSW
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: derekwarner on August 13, 2013, 02:08:04 am
Mike....I am not a cricket fan.........but must agree with Peter here ....Glen McGrath is a true sportsman & a very humble person...one of Australia's favourite sons  O0
With respect to the other cricketer mentioned.  >>:-( ......well his surname may be one letter short of mine.......but that's where it stops.........he has proved himself to be a disgrace to his family time & time again...... <*<  ........Derek
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on August 13, 2013, 04:04:01 am
Peter asks :     Why there are two Ashes series in the one calendar year has me bemused.

I thought it was to give Australia a second chance.



Tony T
Bungendore NSW


We certainly need it O0


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on August 13, 2013, 07:02:42 am
Okay, a Pom springing to the defense of Warne.   


Whilst I agree he can be a bit arrogant and does come out with some crazy comments on the spur of the moment, he does add to the commentary some humor and knowledge. The report he did with Strauss and Hussain about bowling to plans was superb.


I am pleased, and yet also disappointed a little. Cook is not a great captain, but may develop into one in time and England have played some awful cricket this summer and yet are winning 3-0. If England had played as they can, the whole series would be very one sided. As for the Australian team, it is one of the worst I have ever seen. I just hope they have some good youngsters coming through.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Peter Fitness on August 13, 2013, 07:58:38 am
Barry, we do have some very good young players, but the policy of the Australian Cricket Board has been to stick with the tried and tested. The trouble is that some of those tried and tested have been found wanting. If a young player does get a chance, and they fail on their first attempt, they are frequently discarded. Australia lost a lot of good players from our "golden age" through retirements etc, and the young ones have not been brought into the side in such a way that they gain experience, and confidence in their own ability.


Another contributing factor is, I believe, the differing forms of the game that many players are exposed to, such as T20, for example. Sure it's entertaining to watch, and brings a whole new demographic of spectators to the game, but it is not the way to prepare players for the grind and pressure of Test Match cricket. With our system of cricket academies, I believe we have plenty of potential to once again be at the top of the tree, but it is going to take time and, most importantly, clever management from the ACB, something we have not seen much of lately.


Peter.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Footski on August 13, 2013, 08:24:46 am
I cannot disagree with you Peter. I for one look forward to Australia being at the top, after all, you get more joy out of beating the best. Winnin this series has had the same buzz, largely due to the fact that this time we expect to win!
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: B.B on August 13, 2013, 08:42:13 am
I'm in shock Peter, another Australian that feels the same about Shane Warne, a great cricketer(I don't follow cricket) but a less than average roll model for young kids, personally he should have been stood down for some of the antics he got up to,in this country we seem to reward bad behaviour if you are at the top of your game.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: Circlip on August 13, 2013, 10:59:23 am
Don't worry Anti-podeums, Cricket (like F1) is a cyclic thing, 26 years before a German managed to drag Ferrari back to winning. Before you know it, England will be crying in their G&T's and Pints again, all this soul searching for a pot of dust.  :-))    O0     {-)
 
  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: html on August 13, 2013, 09:17:18 pm
Peter
 
I believe there is a new competition starting next year, along the lines of a world test series. I think they moved the ashes so they did not clash, not sure what it is called though.
 
Brian
Title: Re: To our Australian friends
Post by: plugger on August 21, 2013, 08:42:19 pm
The 50 over world cup is scheduled for Feb 2015. They could not fit a full Ashes series plus the lead up fixtures and practice games etc into our summer schedule, hence a year earlier.