Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Submarines => Topic started by: raflaunches on August 18, 2013, 03:42:11 pm
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Hi everyone
My Dad has been teasing many members of not only Wicksteed Park MBC but quite a few Mayhemers about his next project! He still wants it to remain 'secret-ish' for the moment so he asked me to show some pictures of the build so far... he only started to cut the wood out today! The model name will not be mentioned yet, some of you might want to guess what her name is or even what type of vessel she is meant to be, I know I'm being a bit cryptic but someone might be able to work it out with some of the pictures- I have even included a picture of part of the plans to 'help you'! {-)
So can you tell what it is yet?
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The first of the wooden parts being glued together on a nice flat surface.
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'Sides' going together temporarily.
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The world's narrowest and longest 'battery tray!!!- Well that's what it looks like to me!
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The 'structure' glued together for the moment!!! :-))
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Names on a post card, anyone who guesses correctly will get a pint of beer sent through the post!!! {-) ok2
Obviously I'll be asking a moderator to move it into the right section when the name is revealed.
More pictures and info as we go along... happy guessing. :-))
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That sticky up bit on the plans looks like a "Golf Ball" Tee.?
Regards Ian
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Chairoplane or ch air boat %%
Ned
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That sticky up bit on the plans looks like a "Golf Ball" Tee.?
Regards Ian
Nope, its a type of mast of sorts but not anything you or I would naturally assume one to be! :-))
Chairoplane or ch air boat %%
Ned
And nope once again!!! {-) Think bigger!!! :-))
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Is it a periscope?
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Good guess Martin but no! :} But it works like one! :-))
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Optical range finder
Ned
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Optical range finder
Ned
You are correct Ned. :-))
It is a optical range finder, but it does go up and down like a periscope too.
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I want 50% of the prize money!
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So you want half a pint then! {-)
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I'll give another clue to help...
The model will be 7.5ft long, 9.5 inches wide, and has two props...
Keep those guesses coming... :-))
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A Catamaran ???
ken
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A flip ship
http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/flip-ship/
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A Catamaran ???
ken
Unfortunately no.
A flip ship
http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/flip-ship/ (http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/flip-ship/)
I'm afraid that we're not that good! :embarrassed:
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A twin engine coffin
ken
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A twin engine coffin
ken
How did you guess?! {-) My mum thought that too!
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Can't wait to see the pointy bits added. :}
ken
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Dad is making the pointy bits soon once he's made the roundy parts, there are twenty to make!
He's going to go mad measuring, cutting and gluing those on!
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torpedo?
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No, it's not a torpedo! :}
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The proportions would suggest to me a destroyer or early cruiser. Perhaps something along the lines of H.M.S. Velox.
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LPG tanker?
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Length to beam ratio is very close to a narrow boat.
I would not like to go far out of the dock on something
like that especially if it has all the top hamper of range
finders.
Is it some sort of spotter vessel to sit inshore on the putty
and signal back to a big gun vessel?
The again perhaps not.
Ned
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The device for photographing the recently announced Google Canalview.
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Is it something to do with the Spanish Inquisition?
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If it's not a submarine - has anyone asked that? -the only thing I can think of with those proprtions is a Great Lakes freighter.
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Or, and more probably your sort of thing, a spar torpedo boat like the CSS David.
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If it's not a submarine - has anyone asked that?
Jonty has hit it on the nail! But a very special submarine, if I said it was the submarine version of the TSR2?
There is a big clue in the title to this thread for those who like cryptic crosswords!
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XI or X-1?
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XI or X-1?
Most certainly correct! HMS X1
There were some close answers such 'cruiser' as she was the British submarine cruiser, armed with two twin 5.2 inch guns in a semi enclosed mounts, HMS X1 was the biggest, most heavily armed, and the deepest diving submarine in the world until the first nuclear submarines were built after the war.
She was controversial at the time (hence the TSR2 reference) being launched without the government's knowledge or permission! Given a bad reputation and false reports of poor sea keeping and diving were announced despite being a fast crash diver and being quite controllable (she did break down a lot though!) to prevent foreign powers becoming interested in the Submarine cruiser as they would be more devastating to the British merchant navy fleet than any other foreign merchant force.
The model is being built to 1/48 scale making her 7.5 ft long, 7.5 inches wide, 7.5 inches draught and will weigh approx 56lbs! She will however be a surface runner only whilst the water at Wicksteed is deep enough to make her disappear she was a surface raider that could submerge.
We chose this subject after reading the latest book about the X1 The Royal Navy's mystery submarine, a fascinating story about the German U-cruisers of WW1 to the creation of the X1 and the French Surcouf, A big powerful submarine that British government didn't want the world to know about!
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A picture of what the model will eventually look like. He hopes :-))
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I Know EXACTLY what it is
A STRAIGHT RUNNER
Dave
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I Know EXACTLY what it is
A STRAIGHT RUNNER
Dave
Brilliant Stavros, absolutely brilliant idea, even if it doesn't go in a straight line you'll never be able to tell or not, Phil would be fuming! {-)
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I have just got that book too - were you using the plans in there which are rather indistinct or splashing out on a set from the NMM?
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Hi Allnightin
I bought the NMM plans for my Dad as an early birthday present, interestingly they show two different bows, one with the single forward hydroplane, and the other with the biplane hydroplane. At 1/48 scale it's a pretty big plan!
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NMM Plans {-)
Must be well paid in the Service to splash out on those %%
There again Dads are worth it :-))
Ned
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NMM Plans {-)
Must be well paid in the Service to splash out on those %%
There again Dads are worth it :-))
Ned
Sshh or everybody will be joining up! {-)
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Nick you did forget one a bit heavier and certainly better armed - the French
Surcouf with its twin 8 inch guns and 2 x 37 mm AA guns, but I do think X1 makes a far
more interesting looking model
Geoff
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Hi Geoff
It certainly does, I have a 1/350 scale model of Surcouf and unfortunately it seems to lack that 'something' that the X1 has!
You are correct that Surcouf had twin 8inch guns so she had the bigger diameter/calibre gun compared to X1, but from what I have read in the book X1 had semi automatic guns that could (in theory!) fire 6 rounds per minute per gun! The book also said that the Surcouf could only in reality fire one gun at once, so I think that the book means that the X1 had the heaviest broadside/fire rate compared to any other submarine cruiser? Not sure my self but that's what the book said, mind you compared to the M class M1 they both had tiny guns! :o
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Ah! The M1, now there's a project... whether with the gun or the seaplane.
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Hi everyone
Since the discovery of the name and project my Dad has gone into overdrive! Inbetween repairing his van and other jobs he has cut out the centre section outer hull/watertank shapes from 1/8" plywood, all 20 of them!!!
He is creating them in pairs, measuring off the plans and marking onto the plywood, he cuts out one side on the band saw and draws around it on to the other piece of wood, cuts the second one out and files them up together- creating to identical pieces.
He is creating a 'lip' to seal the upper hull/superstructure to sit and seal on, the keel will be removeable at the moment (he might change his mind again!) and will be made from a wooden section filled with lead.
Below are some photos of the plans sections and stern to give you an idea of the shape of the hull and its armament.
You could almost believe that its a nuclear submarine from this picture!
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The 'biplane' hydroplanes, the only submarine to have this arrangement!
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The twin 5.2 inch semi-automatic guns in their semi-open mounts!
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The port bulkhead/frames sitting in place to give an idea of the shape of the hull.
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The 'lip' being glued into position.
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The frames sitting in place against the 'lip'.
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The trial piece of wood laying on the frames to see if the shape is consistent.
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If the moderators would like to move this build log to the submarine section of the forum, I would be most grateful.
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Project now identified and YES it is Submarine
Ken
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I saw in a magazine that seaforth had published
A book on the X1.
Is this going to be a surface model or shall it be a diving submarine?
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Hi Gingyer
Its going to be a surface runner, primarily because the lack of internal space when being built from scratch, even at 1/48 scale the inside area is only just wide enough to get my hand in (my hands are much smaller than my Dad's). The second reason is that it looks fantastic on the surface!
Dad did work out the internal space that could be made floodable and it wasn't worth attempting to get it to submerge. It might be able to dynamic dive though! :-))
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I should imagine that getting it to turn will be more difficult than getting it to dive!
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Is this going to be a one-off wooden hull, or are you making a master to pull a GRP tool from?
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Hi Subculture
Its going to be a one-off wooden hull, primarily for ease of making the model. My dad prefers to use wood and metal to build from. We were offered by Ron Dean to use it as a master but the mould would be in either four or six parts to get a clean hull.
Hi Tobyker
My dad studied the plans when I bought them back in April and he agrees with you, he will be making a larger rudder, and since its square shaped it wouldn't look too far out of place. We will be using our trusty Robbe F14 Twinstick to assist with the turning too! :-))
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Some more pictures of the build so far, to give a sense of how long she is the hull section my Dad is holding is only half the length of the overall model! %% My Dad looking as intelligent as ever! :D
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A menacing photo of the X1 at sea, we will have to choose which colour scheme to paint her in as there was approx five different versions!
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Dad is certainly getting a move on, I think he's trying to finish it before Warwick! %%
Some more pictures...
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Sorry about the distorted pictures, they were taken on my iPad and don't seem to like being uploaded properly. {:-{
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Hi everyone
Dad is definitely going on a build quest, the aft section is being built which means that the overall length has been achieved, all 90.5 inches!!!
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The bows at the moment look remarkable like the K class steam submarine bows but the upper section is very different.
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The stern pieces have been attached and the structure is being built around it, a piece of soft wood has been temporary placed at the stern to create the rudder/rear hydroplane block.
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Dad is measuring up the prop shafts so he can start to work out the stern area motor mounts and associated equipment. They will be different lengths because the motors have to be staggered.
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Its hard to believe that there is another 60mm to go on top of what currently exists! Then there is the superstructure and and gun mounts on top of that!
Mum is threatening to hit him on the head with it if he spends too much time on it!!! :}
We will be taking the hull as it is (or probably more complete ok2 ) to the Deans Marine Open Days, she will be on display on the Saturday.
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Some more pictures, with a strange man holding the hull for comparison! :D
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Hi everyone
Dad's been busy again this week building the stern section, you can now see the full length of the model, Dad has decided to weigh the hull in its current condition and it weighs approx 5.5lbs.
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The slot in the stern is for the vertical stabiliser or what we are calling a skeg.
The aft hydroplanes will be located in the 'skeg' and will also support the lower rudder bracket.
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more next week...
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Did you obtain the drawings for this from the National Maritime Museum?
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Did you obtain the drawings for this from the National Maritime Museum?
Hi subculture
The plans are from the National Maritime Museum, interestingly they show the early hydroplanes on one set of drawings and on the later sets the familiar 'biplane' hydroplanes are drawn on and marked as improvements! They are also to 1/48 (1/4" to 1ft) scale so we are copying the drawings directly on to the wood. They are not 100% perfect but the bulkheads fit together with a little fettling. If you are interested in the plans be warned that one drawings is in two halfs due to some damage from what I was told by the Plans and Photos section of the NMM.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Nick
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Hi everyone
Some more pictures of the build so far, the 'longerons' have been fitted to the starboard side.
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You can start to see the shape of the hull forming now, hopefully he will start sheeting it in soon.
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Hi everyone
We've been to a few shows recently so I didn't have time to upload them last weekend so here are two of the skeleton of the hull- almost complete ready for skinning!
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At the moment Dad is building the fin/Skeg stabiliser and building in the rudder and aft hydroplane attachment pivot points. I'll take some pictures of them this afternoon.
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Well I decided to take the pictures now whilst I'm waiting for my paint to dry on my HMS Gnat gunboat.
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He is constructing the fin from softwood so it's easier to shape, coating it with a 1/32" ply skin and then covering it with a litho plate outer skin.
The fin slots neatly into the hull and is removable at the moment, the original drawings are not entirely clear about some of the details of the fin and the attaching parts, and we don't have any pictures of her stern that clearly show it either!
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I am loving the build technique, is your dad a lapsed aeromodeller, as the hulls box construction smacks of model aircraft fusalage? Or is it just me??
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Hi unbuiltnautilus
You are quite correct, my Dad used to build model gliders and aircraft in the 1960s, and then joined the RAF as a Halton Apprentice airframe fitter (rigger) in 1967, so he has had more experience building aircraft than boats! I suppose it's instinctive with him now! {-)
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Some more pictures, took a while because photo stream was being a bit slow transferring them from my phone!
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Hi everyone
Here are the pictures of the 'fin' build so far...
The aft hydroplane pivot points have been installed- these are made from interlocking brass tubes and coated in a piece of dowel sanded to shape. The skin has been attached to both sides and filed to shape.
His next job is to construct the two horizontal stabilisers that sit just above and slightly further aft of the fin.
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Some more pictures of whatnot Dad was building yesterday.
These are the two brass tubes for the horizontal stabilisers to attach to, these are a lot smaller than the vertical stabiliser or fin. He hopes to skin some of the hull for the Warwick show to give a representation of the shape of the hull.
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Anyway, with Dad just come out of hospital for his check up and feeling fine but he has gone mad and stolen the lead from the church roof! %%
No, not really, but he has started to add the permanent lead ballast to the sections surrounding the keel block.
He is in bad books with my Mum because he has 'borrowed' the kitchen scales to weigh out the lead evenly so both port and starboard boxes are equal in lead weight. He is locking them in place with a piece of wood glued to the keel section before he skins the hull hiding the lead forever. He is keeping a log of what section has what amount of lead in it so hopefully it doesn't sink like a brick on first sea trials! Some section have over 7 pieces of lead in them adding up to over 1.75lbs.
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Hi everyone
Dad has really pushed himself today, he has completed the lead ballast challenge and started to skin the hull.
After all the ballast fitting my Dad did a bit of maths and worked out that the basic hull structure weighed 6.5lbs and he has just added 20.5lbs of lead!
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As you can see in the series of photos the first plate has been attached, well, the first piece of 1/32" plywood sheet has been glued on the hull sealing in over 2lbs of lead!
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He is aiming to skin most of the hull ready for Warwick, I don't think anyone will try to nick it, its heavy already!
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Looking awesome. Great progress been made since I saw the framework at Peterborough.
I admire your dad's confidence in his calculations before sealing compartments in. I had a similar situation with water ballast volumes in individual compartments recently, which luckily worked out well.
Very best wishes with this interesting project :-))
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Hi Bob
I'm hoping that the maths is correct too! Using the method recommended on the mayhem a few months ago regarding how to work out your model's weight from the original vessel, the X1 should weigh a maximum weight of 56lbs full load. I think he has decided to ballast the hull to approx 45lbs to what we are estimating to be the light load waterline.
Dad has almost completed the initial skinning of the starboard lower hull, the hull shape has really come out now, you can feel the subtle lines that you can see on the ship's drawings.
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Hopefully by this time next weekend he will have finished the initial skinning, at the moment it looks like a modern nuclear submarine!!!
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My Dad has surpassed himself!
He has started on the upper part of the skinning on the starboard side too! Hopefully the next few pictures will show the hull lines...
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Hi everyone
Some more pictures of the initial hull plating, the bows look amazing- they've still got to be made 70mm higher and 55mm wider!
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Hi everyone
In preparation for Warwick Dad has made a temporary stand and thought that would take him upto Wednesday! Well he was wrong, so he has made the rudder from brass sheet and tube.
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Dad has made the rudder a little bit bigger just in case, it's not that noticeable but it's a little deeper than it should be.
See you at Warwick... :-))
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Hi everyone
After an enjoyable time at Warwick the X1 is back at home undergoing the port side of hull plating. At the show Dad ordered two prop shafts from SHG.
One shaft was 17inches long over all, the other being 22inches! :o
They are standard 4mm diameter stainless steel shafts with 1/4inch threaded ends, the brass section due to the length has a centre bearing.
Also at the show I bought Dad (for Christmas) a pair of in-turning 40mm three bladed cast bronze propellers from Prop-Shop.
Here is the prop shafts sitting in place with the new propellers.
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Hi everyone
Not long after I posted last weekend, Dad stuck the prop shafts in to the hull, measuring twice-glueing once!
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The props tips are being ground down because they are too long and need to be more blunt in profile.
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He will be finishing the initial hull skinning and then start making the prop shaft A-brackets from brass.
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Hi everyone
The prop shafts have been well and truly attached now, Dad is skinning around the external brass shafts and creating the bottom of the stern.
The rudder, fin, and the propellers have been temporary attached to show what the running end looks like.
The curves of the hull are getting more apparent with the initial layer of plywood, at the Christmas Cracker Dad bought a rudder arm from SHG but even the closest holes to the rudder tube were too far out! He will be drilling his own holes and cutting the arms down to fit within the tight and narrow stern.
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Hi everyone Happy Christmas
With the prop shafts in place the structure above the shafts and around the rudder arm have been cut out from 6mm softwood. The shape of the stern section is coming a lot clearer, here are the last two pictures I took yesterday, he has continued today with the supporting beams and has glued in some brass tubes for the brass rod which attaches to the rudder tiller arm.
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Some more pictures of the stern section being sheeted in with 1/32" ply.
Above the rudder tiller arm Dad is making an access hatch for the rudder linkage- just incase! %)
Thoughts are rapidly moving towards the turrets and the control mechanisms to allow them to rotate together, just making the open turrets will be a challenge but it would look brilliant if they moved around. Dad has been reading the X1 book again and studying the plans, and initially he wanted her to be fully rigged with her masts raised with wireless aerials but had been put off the idea until he re-read the book and realised that the masts were telescopic- only the bow mast had to be fully removed. So he will have everything raised and maybe have the periscopes operable too.
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Hi everyone
Time for another update...
Dad has started the secondary layer of plating, he has almost completed one side. Before he started he cut out the bow sections and what a shape! Unfortunately he took them off before I got a picture but when he puts them on again I'll get the camera out ASAP!
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Finally at the same time as weighed my Majestic class battleship, Dad decided to see how much the hull, batteries and motors weighed currently...
46lbs!!!
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This will be a wonderful and unique sub! I really enjoy seeing the progress. Thank you!
Peace,
Tom
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Thanks Tom
Glad you're enjoying the build, the first complicated bit is coming soon- Dad is designing and building the bow biplane hydroplanes retraction system in the next couple of weeks once he has finished the lower hull plating.
Another picture of his progress so far...
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HI Nick B
Have been looking at the building log, i bet your dad has spent some time working on this. I went about the same way making the plugs to be able to make the moulds for that 12ft sub of mine, but then at the end of it all you end up doing is smashing the plug up as it has no further use. So seeing your dad build this it has brought back memory's of all the months of work involved keep up the good work looking good, look forward to seeing it finished
All the best Sub John
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Hi sub John
Yes, Dad has spent some time building this little project, much to the annoyance of my Mum who would like her utility room finishing off! {-)
I'll try to keep up with his progress but more than often than not he's already finished one thing and moved on to the next phase of the build before I can get a picture.
I've followed your build since Dad started this project and he is very impressed with your build too, you might find some ideas going ino this build too once he has finished the basic hull build.
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Hi everyone
Dad has got the big toys out now using his big clamps to hold the stern plates in place while the glue dries.
I think he has a lot of his own finger DNA on the hull plates judging by the amount of super glue he's peeling off his hands. :D
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Hi everyone
Whilst hopefully everyone is looking at my Dads plee for help in the Submarine R&D section, he has allowed me to take pictures of his bulbous bow sections.
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I can't believe what an incredible shape the bow will be!
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Hi everyone
Once again I managed to take some pictures of the build before he completely finished it and started another part!
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Amazingly he has used lengths of 2x1 wood to use as the keel! Cut down and filed to shape he has completed the basic shape of the keel and has glued it in to the slot he had originally built for lead ballast, good thing he didn't need all that ballast anyway! :}
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Hi everyone
Dad has been (in between burning his fingers) soldering the aft hydroplane together and whilst he was waiting for it to cool down he made a replacement rudder.
The original rudder became distorted because the brass beet he used was too thin, the new one is twice as thick. The hydroplane will be held in place with a double ended threaded shaft which will lock the hydroplanes together.
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Dad got a bit worried last week- he lost one of his props, everything in the boat shed was upturned, he eventually found it in the brass sheet box!
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Hullo Nick.......looking good :-))
1. Is the hydroplane knife edge wedge body brass plated over a material former, or a fabricated brass shell with white foam injected?
2. I certainly cannot see any evidence of soldering along the FWD or AFT edge so must be a very tidy job by your Dad O0
3. They would certainly be subjected to high loadings during operation
4. Is there any reinforcement between the double ended threaded shaft & the hydroplane shell?
5. It certainly may be an optical illusion :(( but what is the designed arc of rudder movement compared the hydroplane proximity?
6. Will the rudder have physical stops to limit movement? .......or simply be limited by servo trimming?
Derek
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Hi Derek
Thanks, my Dad's certainly doing some good work.
To answer your questions-
1- the brass is just two sheets cut to shape and a brass rod sandwiched between. The ends are clamped with bulldog clips bending the skins into the hydrodynamic shape you see in the pictures.
2- dad has learnt to solder from the inside of the brass. He clamps the brass sheet and heats the brass and runs the solder down the inside of the join avoiding the messy results soldering the edge from the outside. Hope this explains this, it's simple to show but hard to explain! %%
3- unfortunately they won't be operational, the control linkage on the real X1 was routed through the fin, so if we made it work and then the linkage broke there would be no way of repairing it without ripping the fin and hull apart.
4- the white stuff you see between the brass sheets is car body filler which we have used in the past to reinforce similar items.
5- it's an optical illusion caused by the camera angles, the rudder moves 30degrees either side of the central position and misses the hydroplanes safely.
6- as you mentioned the rudder will be limited by the servo trimming, Dad likes to test the rudder movement prior to any permanent fixing of the servo and tiller arms, in all the rudders we have made we have a double tiller arm to prevent the rudder being 'snatched' by anything lurking in the water and flipping the tiller arm over the servo head.
If there is anything else you would like to know or better explained don't hesitate to ask. :-))
Nick
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Today at 1015hrs local time these images was acquired by an anonymous source, but as you can see the military censors have already left their mark!
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more images have come to light…
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All personnel involve in these illegal photographs of this launch will be hunted down and shot for treason (sorry Chuffy!) {-)
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Are we getting close to the point where (alleged) calculated and sealed-in-hull lead ballast can be tested against actual displacement using a volume of H2O ?
I realise that the Official Secrets Act may preclude a definative answer to this.
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No doubt Echelon or Prism will be able to tell you, NSA, the only government department to listen to what you're saying. :-))
Regards Ian.
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I do like our strange sense of humour, the original launch was in secret too, the photos were doctored and a journalist and commander were put on trial for treason! %%
Dad is sealing up all the unused ballast boxes he left open just incase more weight was needed. We weighed the model and it currently weighs approx 47lbs without a superstructure/gun turrets/bow structure!
Dad bought some more brass yesterday to build the biplane hydroplanes and he is designing a mechanism to retract and deploy them, good luck to him!
He is also making the A-frames for the prop shafts this week too, ready for another coat of paint next weekend.
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Hi everyone
Some more pictures of Dad's progress
The new rudder servo mount
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All remaining areas which were reserved for ballasting but now redundant are being sealed up as floatations boxes.
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The new batteries, 12v 5amp SLA which fit perfectly inside the inner hull, almost like was designed to fit, just coincidence I think!
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And finally the new bulbous bow!
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Hi everyone
Some of the latest photos of the build so far...
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Hi everyone
Dad had a break from the build, ok he received new orders from mum who will be obeyed to refurb the bath room!
Back on the build he has made the engine brackets from aluminium sheet and bent to shape.
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As a present I bought him two new Electronize HVR 15amp ESCs so he can advance to the test sails very soon.
He has faired in the last ballast box left open and created the rear most bulkhead to which the superstructure will sit against.
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Thanks for posting....selfishly I was missing the build.
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That looks like quite a powerplant! I look forward to seeing the photos of the beast at full power on the surface, should be spectacular :-))
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They look like heater matrix blower motors.
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Hi everyone, sorry it's taken me a week to reply but what a really busy (annoying) week it's been!
The motors are Bosch 12v car heater motors from a VW Polo, we've used them in almost every big build and they have proven themselves to be quite reliable.
The new shape bows are coming along nicely...
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The battery trays (well bits of wood holding the batteries in place)
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The ESC tray.
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The rudder tiller hatch, made from 1mm brass sheet bent to shape and filed to fit using his old RAF rigger skills.
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Until next time, hope you all enjoy the build as much as I'm watching him built it! :-))
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Hi everyone
Dad has been very busy in the three days I've been away working, the port side plating of the bows is almost complete.
The fore hole is the anchor recess, and the bigger rear hole will be for the biplane hydroplane 'box'.
He is busy fairing in the starboard side plating, you can really see the bulbous nose effect showing now.
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I managed to catch Dad in the act of building :o
The starboard bow plating being installed...
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Looks really nice!
interesting to follow your thread! :-))
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Thanks SPB
He surprises me with his progress, every day it seems to jump along.
The hull plating is complete, just a bit of filler needed here and there and a bit of sanding down.
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Looking forward to the next stage... :-))
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Very nice, although I suspect this is the last time it will look graceful :}
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Very nice, although I suspect this is the last time it will look graceful :}
He he, she'll certainly be an ugly duckling when she's finished, at least she'll have a menacing presence on the water ok2
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Hi everyone
Upper superstructure has been started, frames cut out and turret barbettes marked out. It's a lot narrower than I expected :o
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Hi everyone
Photos of the superstructure and turret barbettes progression...
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Looking good. Shame it will never submerge (at least not intentionally).
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Thanks Subculture :-))
It's got some amazing lines and my Dad is having to decipher the original drawings to create the superstructure and it's complex shape- not easy when the drawings are not particularly easy to read.
It'll be at The mayhem show at Wicksteed whether it's runnable or not!
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There is a line where something is so ugly, it becomes beautiful and this sub qualifies for that. The look of the X-1 is just cool to me and like Andy said, pity it will not be a diving model. Following this thread is helpful for me to see what techniques are being used to create this one of a kind submarine.
Thank you for posting!
Peace,
tom
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Thanks Tom
Dad will be getting a big head with all this praise :}
He gets very busy during the week and I have to catch him in the act of building to get a picture of the progress! Glad you find this thread helpful he certainly impresses me with his work!
Another update due this weekend :-))
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Hi everyone
Managed to get some photos for this weeks update.
He has built the conning tower from 1/32" (0.8mm) plywood wrapped around 1/16" (1.6mm) plywood base which is bolted to a flat piece of wood to hold it flat.
The brass tube on the side of the conning tower is the attack periscope base whilst the the brass socket at the fore end is the base for the fore mast which is retractable.
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Hi everyone
Some more pictures of the conning tower position, the window section being made from 0.75mm plastic card cut and filed to shape. The first attempt was made from 1/32" plywood but started to split in the corner of every window!
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Hi everyone
Time for an update!
After the mayhem weekend and visits to other shows, Dad is adding the hull detail using litho plate to create little vents and inspection panels, etc. he has also faired in the underside of the barbettes using 1/64" plywood and a bit of filler- a lot of swearing I heard from the boat shed whilst these were being fitted! ;)
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I think the swearing will be worth it in the end. Keep up the good work.
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If you are not swearing, you aren't pushing yourself!
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If you are not swearing, you aren't pushing yourself!
I think the swearing will be worth it in the end. Keep up the good work.
Thanks lads, I'll pass on the praise to my Dad! I must have learnt a few new words listening to him- and I work in the military! :D
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Hi everyone
I caught my Dad in the act once again and luckily I had a camera to hand!
This week he has been building the forward biplane hydroplanes and making them folding too. He has been using
brass sheet and tube, with his trusty blow torch, to create the hydroplane and the pivots. He has also built the slots to which they pass through but this is built sing 1/32" ply.
He has also built several other items over the past month, the sonar dome base and the horizontal stabilisers which were built from copper sheet and brass rod. He filled them up with body filler and then drilled out the centre as per the drawings. He also found some more vents and flush hatches which he had to make from litho plate!
And finally after some more profuse swearing (which was reported to me by my mum!!!) he has made the little steps on the superstructure from 1/32" plywood.
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The forward hydroplanes are fitted, faired in, and painted.
Retracted...
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Deployed...
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The bow bull ring and fore flag pole fitting made from brass.
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The rear bollard which doubles up as fastener for the rudder access hatch. And the two rear horizontal stabilisers.
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The rear flag pole and the first aerial pole made from brass tube and rod.
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I've been taunted by my dad tonight, he phoned me to tell me that he has started the turret bases and has even got as far as the gun mountings! But my dad being the type not to use technology to record his progress I'll have to get home early on Friday to catch him in the act before he builds the whole thing!
Promise to upload pictures as soon as I take them! :-))
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As promised here are the pictures of the turret bases firmly attached to a servo arm fitting.
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The new forward flooding chamber inlets above the torpedo tube doors.
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The conning tower had to be raised by 1/4" after another look by dad and comparing them to Fred the sailer!
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And finally the rear rudder tiller hatch held in place with the new screw bollard.
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Hi everyone
I'm capturing pictures as he builds it at the moment! I think Dad is trying to have it completed before Ron Dean's open days in September :}
The first picture is of the cover hatch which will hide and prevent water ingress into the turret servo (he hopes!) and the strange frame over the switch hatch is to support the voice pipes to the rear turret position.
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The next is the stern light made from brass rod and tube filed to shape.
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The conning tower and bridge rebuilt (again!) and this time you'll be able to see the basis for the director tower for the two twin 5.2in guns, the servo will be forever stuck inside the coning tower so if it ever breaks then... well you get the picture!
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The starboard biplane hydroplanes are now faired too.
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And now some random pictures from the bow area for viewing enjoyment!
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A brilliant thread I am really enjoying following it thanks Geo :-)) :-))
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Amazing build of a very unusaly ship. :-))
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Amazing build of a very unusaly ship. :-))
A brilliant thread I am really enjoying following it thanks Geo :-)) :-))
Glad you both are enjoying build so far too, I utterly amazed of his recent progress, he's actually wired everything up and is preparing for its initial light grey paint this weekend, I'll keep you all upto date as I find out! :-))
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Hi everyone
She is ready for painting the light Mediterranean grey on to the upper hull and superstructure, hopefully tomorrow once the grey is fully dry the black underside can be a painted on to.
Anyway some pictures out of the build shed and in to the garage for the paint application.
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Its going to be a crying shame to stick those big ugly turrets on that hull, what a pretty thing :-))
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Remarkable work. Wish I had even one tenth of the skill needed for a project like this.
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Remarkable work. Wish I had even one tenth of the skill needed for a project like this.
Its going to be a crying shame to stick those big ugly turrets on that hull, what a pretty thing :-))
Thanks for the kind comments, I'll pass them on to his illustrious one!
Cuppa, don't worry about skill, we didn't have any when we started ten years ago and there are plenty of modellers on here and at the shows we admire for their skill and abilities. I only learnt how to do a decent deck two years ago with regards to planking. Between me and Dad we have built eleven models over ten years and with each one we have hopefully improved our abilities.
I'll post some pictures up when my proper internet connection returns but we've had a successful test of the turrets and the director. Many thanks to Dave M (Action) for supplying and talking us through his brilliant servo morph component. It works brilliantly :-))
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A little off thread Nick B :embarrassed: .. but is that an old Rover motor vehicle?....... Derek
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Hi Derek
Not at all, you caught me and my Dad's winter project!
You're close with Rover, the company was owned by British Leyland too, then by Rover.
She's a 1956 MG ZA Magnette, originally fitted with 1500cc BMC engine most were replaced with 1800cc MG B engines to get that bit extra from the car.
My Dad bought her in 1971 for £10 and a promise to do her up. He did and drove her for 14 years and was even his wedding car in 1979. But when I came along in 1984 the car wasn't big enough for the baby seat so she was put in to storage in my Dad's garage. Two years ago he gave the car to me and we decided to do a full restoration by stripping the interior and engine/gearbox out so we can repair or apply any preventive methods. Hopefully she'll be finished in 3-4 years in between boat projects of course! :-))
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Its going to be a crying shame to stick those big ugly turrets on that hull, what a pretty thing :-))
There is nothing to fuel enthusiasm and imagination as much as planning a uniquely unusual project.
You can't get more uniquely unusual than a submarine with gun turrets :-)) :-)) :-))
Love this build. O0
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Hi Bob
You should see her now! I'll take some photos tomorrow morning for everyone to see but the model has been painted in Mediterranean grey and black undersides. She's drying as we type!
The 5.2" gun barrels are being made on a lathe this week, looking forward to seeing them complete. :-))
How's your semi submersible going? Hope to see you at Ron Deans open days in a few weeks time.
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Hi everyone
As promised here are the pictures of the finished paint job.
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Very impressive Nick :-))
Looking forward to the launch.
Ned
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So am I!!! :-))
Dad is currently adding sealant around the removable part to create a decent seal, even though the water line is 25mm below it we don't want to tempt fate.
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Hi everyone from the secret Skunkworks that bought you HMS Gnat and CMB 216...
Today at a top secret location, just located 1 mile off the A14 in Kettering, the controversial launch and maiden voyage of the un-named submarine only known as HMS X1 occurred. Cameras and media were told to stay away but these leaked images were sent to us!
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Initial buoyancy checks proved that she was bow light so some extra ballast was added to correct the nose up altitude!
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She has a good amount of speed to play with but planning is required to stop the sub before she rams the side. Turning is adequate but our usual twin stick method failed to get her to spin on a sixpence! With all her keel weight she is very stable and stays on station with the motors stopped. Turrets work really well with the servo morph from Action-many thanks to Dave M-and the battery life of the 12v 5amp/hr SLA battery which powers everything was about 1 hour. So a good mornings sailing. :-))
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Nice to see her finally in her element. Must admit I was concerned as to all that ballast being sealed into to structure based on what appeared to be purely calculations.
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Fantastic workmanship and outstanding subject. That makes for one beautiful submarine! This has been a wonderful thread to follow. Thank you and congratulations!
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I must admit there was an air of apprehension because we had never tried the superstructure in place for early ballast trials, and the superstructure weighs a fair bit, probably the weight of other model boat!
She looks very graceful on the water and the wake matches the photos almost perfectly, and an added bonus no water entered the hull! :-))
Hope you all will continue watching this space, the barrels are complete-photos to come- I'm enjoying reporting upon this build as you enjoy reading it.
Many thanks for the kind comments :-)
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Wonderful work. It looks really great on the water - more pics please............
This is a really enjoyable and informative build to follow.
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More pics as requested... :-))
The complexity of the twin 5.2" turret in plan form.
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And my Dad's start of his version of the turrets
The gun barrels made from aluminium solid rod machined on a lathe by my Grand-dad.
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Everything is made from aluminium.
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Gun mounts and a trial fit of the barrel in the correct position. Fred the sailor inspecting the work so far, not very impressed with the giant clamp he told us!
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Hot off the press!
The basis of the range finder and the director tower made from plastic down pipe and wooden dowel.
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I was follow the thread step by step and all I can say is to quote "salmon"
Fantastic workmanship and outstanding subject. That makes for one beautiful submarine! This has been a wonderful thread to follow. Thank you and congratulations!
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and I can't say more . Congratulation once again . :-))
MARIUS
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Hi everyone
Time for more pictures, this time he's building the bases of the radio masts, attack periscope, search periscope, and range finder.
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I was follow the thread step by step and all I can say is to quote "salmon"
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and I can't say more . Congratulation once again . :-))
MARIUS
Thanks Marius hope you are enjoying the build so far, Dad's having fun with the turrets so he's giving the conning tower a go whilst he recovers from making the aluminum brackets for the gun mounts.
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You makend a boat who go unna da watta? :o ees crazy %%
X1 here in Gib;
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You makend a boat who go unna da watta? :o ees crazy %%
X1 here in Gib;
He he :-))
That's the colour scheme I believe Dad is going for, he likes Mediterranean warships, he's already got planned a tender for her which (you can guess) served in the Med!
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She looks great on the water!
I've been following this build with great interest and thanks for sharing it.
David
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Hi David
Glad you like it, dad's going to start on her again next week after having two weeks off! Told him he needs to get a move on! {-)
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Hi everyone
Dad has, as promised, continued with his build after his two weeks off! He has made the conning tower/spotting tower from 36mm down pipe with plastic card detail and carved the roof from wood blocks. All the masts/periscopes bases have been fitted and are various sizes of brass tube.
The ship's wheel has had its bracket built and fitted with table platform made form 1/64" ply. The roof has also been made from softwood carved to shape and scooped out to create the roof space. Fred the sailor will be fitted soon once the floor has been painted.
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And finally the hand rails have been started to be marked out and temporarily fitted, these are from RB Fittings via Deans Marine. They are 21.5mm high two ball items and there will be almost 40 of them!
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Hi everyone
Dad has been making his periscopes and aerial masts on the conning tower from brass tubes and rods.
A temporary range finder has been made from wood but he has decided that he will make one from brass later. The conning tower roof has been made and the windscreen glass has been added. A vent has been made from brass too.
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Hi everyone
Getting more and more pictures now of Dad's work, he has just bought some 0.5mm piano wire for the railings, see what you think so far...
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He has also painted the deck dark grey and stuck the conning tower roof on with its windbreak. Fred the sailor has taken the helm being watched by the captain.
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Please tell him "Nice work !" Nick. Looking forward to seeing the completed turrets in place.
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Thanks Bob, and I will, she's going to Warwick to show everyone her progression from last year. Dad will try to emulate the turrets before the show... ;)
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If you are there tomorrow at Warwick look for the long blue box being loaded on to the Wickies stand, there will be a familiar looking sub peeking out! :D
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Lovely stuff!
I particulary like the submersible rangefinder.
Enjoy the Warwick show!
David
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Missing postings on this, everything right? Is the build moving forward?
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Hi Salmon
Dont worry, Dad is taking a short break rebuilding our second model boat (a 1/12th 60ft RAF General Purpose Pinnace). She had some rather worrying battle damage after 9 years of almost constant use! He has almost finished it and will be restarting in the next month on the sub. :-))
He has bought some more railings for her- two ball 21.5mm high brass ones for the stern section.
We will be converting the twin stick to a single version and use the spare socket for the gun turrets and range finder. We might be taking her out for a sail soon providing the weather doesn't worsen.
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Is it an armed pontoon used by Elves? The title suggests this.
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Not Elven, but eleven as in the number following ten and before twelve. :-)
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So not likely to be crewd by tall men with pointy ears and a few years behind them? Hm, back to 'Finkin' again.
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Sailing phase two...
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Considering the rough conditions she sailed very well with the battery lasting approx 1 hour. :-))
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Very nice Sir.
Looks like perfick Wickie weather :-))
Ned
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Bravo! Looks great in the water.
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Tandem weapons? Interesting. Excellent looking machine. Will there be any youtube footage?
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Great to see her underway on the water. Can't wait to see the turrets fitted :-))
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Ladies and Gentlemen hold on to your hats!
The beginning of the end is close... Steve has started the final build on the gun turrets.
See what you think...
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Hat duly held !! Guns look great. :-)) The gun hoods will really top this excellent build off.
Please keep the photo's coming Nick
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You have built some gorgeous ordnance Steve. Thanks for keeping us updated Nick.
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Another instalment of the sub build, at Coalville we commissioned Barry's Lettering to come up with the X.1. with shadow for the conning tower pennant number. Not trusting himself I was persuaded to put the pennant onto the model which went without any hitches. See what you think...
The forward turret guns have been positioned into place with the semi automatic loading trays.
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Lovely job, been following your models since day 1 have you a photo gallery of all of them?
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Is that teeth marks and slobber I see on the hull after Phil savaged it at Warwick!
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Crikey Christain
I had almost forgotten id written that letter all those years ago! I later found out curtesy of the small craft group that I had got the info about the Walton HSL gun turrets wrong and that they were fitted but minus guns. :embarrassed:
I've got almost all of the build logs pictures of all the boats we've built, the only two missing are the two springers... But I do have the following
Walton HSL 2642
GP Pinnace 60ft
40ft Armoured Target Boat
62ft Thornycroft Fast Motor Boat
RAFA Adastral
Vosper Thornycroft 34m Fast Attack Boat (proposed)
HMS Gnat
CMB 216
HMS X1
HMS Prince George
The Gnat was the first I put on the Mayhem from the beginning.
Is that teeth marks and slobber I see on the hull after Phil savaged it at Warwick!
Teeth marks-no! His teeth are still too soft for that, he's got several years of hardening them up first! :}
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Hi everyone
Been a while since the last update but I'm sure you'll enjoy the out come of Dad's hard work.
The turrets have been made and transverse brilliantly so I'm sharing the pictures Dad took whilst I was in Gosford.
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Well as the title says, HMS X1 is almost finished!!! Only two years in the making- not bad compared to the HMS Gnat which took four.
HMS X1 went for a sail today at Wicksteed Park for her first complete sail with everything finished (well almost finished you can never say a model is ever finished!). Her two turrets and her range finder were fully operational and she looked magnificent on the water.
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She just needs her gun crew fitting to feed her two twin 5.2inch guns and some other signalling flags and she will be fully complete. Dad has made the diving wires, hand rails, voice pipes to the gun turrets from various bits of piano wire and brass tube. He carved the turret roof's from soft wood and hollowed the ceilings and a bit of filler blended them into the turret body. Before he finished the roof he added the sighting holes and gun sights from brass tube. If you think that the gun barrels can not elevate because there is no room you'd be wrong like me! The section above the barrel moves up with the barrel! A bit of plastic card square section finishes off the turret and blends everything together.
Hope you've enjoyed the build and the trials and tribulations along the way, she will now sail at Wicksteed Park and will make appearances at Warwick this year. Feel free to continue to ask questions and see you all soon.
Torpedo away and prepare to surface! Fire guns!!! :-))
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Glad I saw her sailing at Wicksteed recently, looking in her natural element.
Having the turrets finished is the pièce de résistance of the wonderful build. :-))
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As a design it still looks potty bonkers, but I am sure it would ave put the willies up an enemy crew expecting a normal sub armed with a pop gun.
Lovely model Nick. I must attend next year's show.
TTFN, Ian:O)
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The cruiser submarine was a concept that ended up frightening the Royal Navy and had to be "dis-invented." (Who would have benefited most from attacking merchant fleets - Britain or Germany?)
Great project and model! I look forward to seeing her.
David