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Title: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 26, 2013, 11:36:26 am
Hi all, I am looking at the models by design  52in Arun life boat. Now I would like to ask is....are the fittings needed to complete the boat still available ....and by who

Best Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on August 26, 2013, 02:25:04 pm
yes Dave......Dave Metcalf at Metcalf Mouldings does a set........doesn't cover all those that are needed and there is some scratch building, but most there.
 
don't email him, best is to phone him on 01920 43 8686
 
NEIL
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: 16-21 on August 26, 2013, 03:25:27 pm
Hi Dave,

Arun Fittings list requirements. Incl part no's,

Mike Waverley models.

Flybridge wheel [FT2]   x1
Wheelhouse wheel [FT208]    x1
Compass [FT99]    x2
Anchor [FT3]    x2
Throttles [FT79]    x2
Axes [Large and small - FT62 & FT56 respectively]    x1 of each
Handrail sockets / brackets [FT9]    x24
Horn [FT92]    x1
Deck lights [FT61]    x6
Vent Covers [BR5]    x2
Boat Hook Ends [WY21A]    x2

Plus from martin,Mac mouldings

M096 Life Belt  x  2
M150 Door  x 1
M152 Hatch  x 2
M191 Window Set  x 1
M226 Fuel filler cover  x 2
M227 Deck light fitting x 1
M228 Bollards  x 3 packs
M230 Front bollard  x 1
M231 Rear bollard  x 1
M241 Life Raft  x 1
M267 Exhausts x 1 pack
M271 Axe and holder  x 1

Other requirements,

Emergency Aerial    x1
Bow Head Roller    x1
Bow Deck Vent [to Survivor's Quarters below deck]    x1    Model slipway x1
Fairleads    x6                                            Model slipway x6
Loudspeaker    x2
Windscreen Wiper Blades    x4
Wiper Boxes    x4
Searchlights    x2
Capstan    x1                                              Model slipway x1

Also, Speedline models

Stanchions, 14 and a Y boat.


Adam
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 26, 2013, 04:28:27 pm
Hi Neil, thanks mate. :-)) :-))

Adam many thank for taking the time to put the list together now I can place my order for the 52in arun. :-)) :-))
Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 27, 2013, 05:46:50 pm
Models by design now have my order for the 52in Arun, I am now working my way through the list that Adam kindly put up. Now I would like to know what spray pain I would need from halfords as in the shades of orange....blue...and red for the hull.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: 16-21 on August 27, 2013, 06:50:46 pm
Dave,
 
I'll try get the pic's etc sent asap.
 
Paint wise, I believe..... Ford Galaxy Blue, Vw  brilliant orange, and the deck Rover hurricane grey.
 
Hope all is correct perhaps others will confirm...
 
adam
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 27, 2013, 06:54:30 pm
Dave,
 
I'll try get the pic's etc sent asap.
 
Paint wise, I believe..... Ford Galaxy Blue, Vw  brilliant orange, and the deck Rover hurricane grey.
 
Hope all is correct perhaps others will confirm...
 
adam

Hi Adam, many thanks mate. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: imsinking on August 27, 2013, 09:29:08 pm
Models by design now have my order for the 52in Arun, I am now working my way through the list that Adam kindly put up. Now I would like to know what spray pain I would need from halfords as in the shades of orange....blue...and red for the hull.

Regards Dave.
SOOOO . . . ditching the AIRBRUSH are we ? Rattlers from Halfords , car colours . . .  :-))   O0
Bill
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 27, 2013, 10:25:52 pm
I have to say no to the air brush bill, need a lot more practice before I have a go at something like this mate even with the spray cans I won't be doing it.......but I know a man that will do a good job........don't I Ken.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Perkasaman2 on August 27, 2013, 11:20:55 pm
Hi Dave , have you considered putting a build log on Mayhem? This is a very impressive model and I'm sure lots of members would like to see pics and follow your build.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 28, 2013, 08:53:01 am
Hi Dave , have you considered putting a build log on Mayhem? This is a very impressive model and I'm sure lots of members would like to see pics and follow your build.

Hi, yes I will do but it won't be till October as they don't carry any stock. At the time of ordering I have been told that there is a turn around of approx 30 days, so to save£40_£50 on delivery it's been agreed that I will collect it from Blackpool and this gives me time to get all the other parts needed to complete it. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 31, 2013, 12:53:35 pm
Hi all, can anyone tell the total amount of stanchions needed please, also if anyone has photos of the deck layout  just so I can see what paint is required for the deck fittings so I can get them painted ready.

Best regards Dave. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: 16-21 on August 31, 2013, 01:32:08 pm
Dave look up......
 
Believe it's 14.
 
adam
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 31, 2013, 01:57:03 pm
Hi Adam, yes mate it says 14 above .....but then there's around the stern and the bow,the fly bridge. It's hard to say looking at photos.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: 16-21 on August 31, 2013, 04:53:57 pm
Sorry Dave that was a bit cheeky, Look up comment....
 
According to Kim Belcher the Arun only requires 14 stanchions.
 
I have emailed you pic's of his Arun.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 31, 2013, 05:15:32 pm
Hi Adam, no problem mate, I have seen the photos you emailed and the build is like you said the best seen. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 31, 2013, 05:42:44 pm
Some of the fittings for the Arun, these are from mac's mouldings and very good they are. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: 16-21 on August 31, 2013, 05:54:16 pm
You have been busy  :-))
 
Dave if i may, Have you thought about the motor side of thing's as yet??
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 31, 2013, 06:28:34 pm
You have been busy  :-))
 
Dave if i may, Have you thought about the motor side of thing's as yet??

Hi Adam, yes mate I am going for two 850's on order from component shop, they should be here on Monday along with their power distribution board. I have been looking around for the Y boat but it seems like speedline models is the place to go, so I shall place an order with them soon.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: cabman on August 31, 2013, 08:10:41 pm
I prefer Halfords Ford Balliol Blue for the hull which I'm informed is the same as Oxford Blue - the colour used by the RNLI. VW brilliant Orange should be used with white primer or it will look too dull despite the can instructions advising grey primer. I primed the Y boat with grey primer and it gives a completely duller colour to that on the wheelhouse which looks far more realistic that them being the same. Rover Tempest Grey for the deck over a very light coat of Rustoleum Textured paint gives a perfect textured finish. Practise this first on some scrap ply because you can very easily overdo the Rustoleum. I used Ford Polar Grey for the railings which I had mixed by Halfords.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 31, 2013, 08:23:19 pm
Hi cabman, thanks for the information on paint, is it the Arun you have if so could you post some photos showing the general layout.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: 16-21 on August 31, 2013, 09:02:34 pm
Dave,

Just remembered models by design do the
Clyde class and a Y boat.

Perhaps Andy will produce 1 since your buying the Arun...
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on August 31, 2013, 09:10:51 pm
Dave,

Just remembered models by design do the
Clyde class and a Y boat.

Perhaps Andy will produce 1 since your buying the Arun...

sorry Batfish but the rib from MBD  for the Clyde semi kit is of an early "D" class......I made the tooling for it along with the Clyde moulds myself.
It is 16.5 inches long.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: 16-21 on August 31, 2013, 11:33:28 pm
Ah ok Neil   :-))

Was worth a shot...
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 01, 2013, 11:56:20 am
Never mind , the thought was there .........I will keep looking......if I don't find another then it will be speedline getting an order.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 01, 2013, 12:51:11 pm
As I have decided to use m.f.a. 850s motors, what do you all think would be the best sized prop to use as I will be usinglead acid batteries.

Best regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Big Ada on September 01, 2013, 06:23:18 pm
Get them while you can as I heard they was in trouble.
 
Len.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: 16-21 on September 01, 2013, 07:14:05 pm
Dave, I believe 55mm props.
 
However if you look back through Lifeboat section for lifeboatpauls Arun you will see 75mm on brushless setup,
 Russel did a build too and i believ he used 850's not sure if he completed the Arun though.
 
If you fancy something different perhaps the Sir William Arnold???
 
regards
adam
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 01, 2013, 07:54:07 pm
Dave, I believe 55mm props.
 
However if you look back through Lifeboat section for lifeboatpauls Arun you will see 75mm on brushless setup,
 Russel did a build too and i believ he used 850's not sure if he completed the Arun though.
 
If you fancy something different perhaps the Sir William Arnold???
 
regards
adam

Thanks Adam, I will have a good look at what you've said as this is my first lifeboat I am more use to tugs......I just felt it was time for something different and always thought about a lifeboat .......so I need all the help I can get.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on September 01, 2013, 08:35:25 pm
If you fancy something different perhaps the Sir William Arnold???
got plans and superstructure templates ( sides only) for her.....enjoyed that build.........something different......got lots of pictures of the real boat too.
 
I have a friend who is a retired staff coxswain for the RNLI  who sailed her back to Poole from Brixham after she had put it to port after her gold Medal rescue of the crew of the Bonita, 13/12/1981( just  6 days before the sad Penlee disaster ).....
The boat had taken such a battering during the rescue that the incumbent Guernsey Cox (from where the WA was stationed )thought he had dislodged one of the engines, and so she needed a checkup at Poole.
 
My friend said that even though the weather was still poor motoring her on one engine to Poole the day after the rescue, she handled absolutely superbly.......and to quote " was probably the finest lifeboat I have ever sailed".
Testament to the strength of a triple diagonal planked hull
 
neil.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 01, 2013, 09:10:33 pm
Hi Neil, very nice boat, I have not as yet seen the Arun with a bow thruster........when did lifeboats start to have bow thrusters fitted.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on September 01, 2013, 10:10:29 pm
she doesn't have one Dave.........don't think any Arun was fitted with  one.
 
think the Severns were the first in the fleet.
 
neil
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 02, 2013, 10:08:22 am
she doesn't have one Dave.........don't think any Arun was fitted with  one.
 
think the Severns were the first in the fleet.
 
neil

Thanks Neil. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 02, 2013, 06:13:24 pm
got plans and superstructure templates ( sides only) for her.....enjoyed that build.........something different......got lots of pictures of the real boat too.
 
I have a friend who is a retired staff coxswain for the RNLI  who sailed her back to Poole from Brixham after she had put it to port after her gold Medal rescue of the crew of the Bonita, 13/12/1981( just  6 days before the sad Penlee disaster ).....
The boat had taken such a battering during the rescue that the incumbent Guernsey Cox (from where the WA was stationed )thought he had dislodged one of the engines, and so she needed a checkup at Poole.
 
My friend said that even though the weather was still poor motoring her on one engine to Poole the day after the rescue, she handled absolutely superbly.......and to quote " was probably the finest lifeboat I have ever sailed".
Testament to the strength of a triple diagonal planked hull
 
neil.

Hi Neil, you said you have lot's of photos above.....if it's the arun can I ask if you would send me some please they would be a big help when it comes to the fittings.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on September 02, 2013, 09:08:28 pm
I havea good number of the specific Arun 52-02 Sir William Arnold, the boat I modelled  and I also have some shots of the Arun Mabel Alice ( Penlee's old boat) but done up in Strathclyde Police's colours.....if you want both, PM me your email address,
 
neil.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 02, 2013, 09:48:45 pm
I havea good number of the specific Arun 52-02 Sir William Arnold, the boat I modelled  and I also have some shots of the Arun Mabel Alice ( Penlee's old boat) but done up in Strathclyde Police's colours.....if you want both, PM me your email address,
 
neil.

Many thanks Neil pm sent.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 03, 2013, 09:40:29 am
Hi Neil, many thanks for all the photos you sent via email, they will be a great help. :-)) :-)) :-))

Best regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 03, 2013, 11:19:26 am
Hi all, a book I had on order arrived today, the book is A run lifeboats an illustrated history 1971.....2009 by Nicholas Leach ......at first glance it look very good.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 03, 2013, 12:33:55 pm
Hi all, I am now looking to order some props, what I have in mind are two 50mm 5 blade brass powered by two 850s What are the thoughts on these.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: 16-21 on September 03, 2013, 12:42:11 pm
Hi Dave,
 
hope you got the pic's.
 
The Arun had 4 blade props mate...
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 03, 2013, 01:34:14 pm
Hi Dave,
 
hope you got the pic's.
 
The Arun had 4 blade props mate...

Hi Adam , yes mate got the photos they are great. I also got lots of photos off Neil so together the two of you have made thing so much easy as I can now see were the fittings go.As for the props thanks mate 4 blade props it is then. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 05, 2013, 05:06:05 pm
Hi all, some more parts arrived 2 x 850 motors a power distribution board and 4x toggle switches from the component shop, The next things on the list shall be ordered tonight these being 1 x Y boat and the railings.....stanchions.. and kick boards.

The one thing I am thinking of getting is a sound simulator , so does anyone have either the one from action or the robbe sound module navy... if so how good are they.

Regards Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 06, 2013, 12:34:22 pm
Hi all, I would like to get the spray paint in ready, so how many tins of each colour will I need not forgetting it's the 52in Arun.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on September 06, 2013, 04:32:39 pm
well, on each of my lifeboats just for the hull, I used 1 x primer filler, 1 x grey primer, 1 x red oxide for anti fouling.and 1.5 blue for hull ( large 500ml tins ) plus one tin grey Rustoleum textured for an arun I built. I would say also 1.5 tins orange for "roof"
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 06, 2013, 04:43:53 pm
well, on each of my lifeboats just for the hull, I used 1 x primer filler, 1 x grey primer, 1 x red oxide for anti fouling.and 1.5 blue for hull ( large 500ml tins ) plus one tin grey Rustoleum textured for an arun I built. I would say also 1.5 tins orange for "roof"

Thanks Neil I wasn't far out, I went to halfords and got the following.

2 x grey primer
1 x white primer
1 x red primer
2 x ford galaxy blue
2 x VW brilliant orange
1 x rover hurricane grey ( for the deck )
2 x clear lacquer

 Now finding that with lifeboats you need deep pockets......But should be worth it in the end.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on September 06, 2013, 06:11:45 pm
there's nothing cheap about model boating anymore, dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 06, 2013, 06:19:46 pm
there's nothing cheap about model boating anymore, dave

Your spot on there mate, I am now looking through the lifeboats section as I have read a post you made about none slip deck finish........I can remember it's from B&Q but cannot rember the name....never mind I will find it and pick up a few more of your tips along the way. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.

Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: cabman on September 06, 2013, 06:21:33 pm
Rustoleum.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 06, 2013, 06:59:11 pm
Rustoleum.

Thanks will take a look. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mrpenguin on September 07, 2013, 12:05:50 am
Wow that sure is a lot of paint - that is over 5Kg if you use it all...
 
Liquid gold or liquid ballast..... I am not sure - it could be both...?
 
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 07, 2013, 01:51:18 pm
Hi all , could anyone please tell me the size of the stanchions on the Arun 1-12 scale.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Rottweiler on September 07, 2013, 06:07:42 pm
Dave,
there are a good set of plans available from the RNLI  at a very reasonable price,for the Arun Lifeboat.They are in !/12th scale,I believe,and all measurements you are asking can be worked out from them.It would save you a lot of time in your build?
Cheers,
Mick F
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 07, 2013, 06:44:03 pm
Dave,
there are a good set of plans available from the RNLI  at a very reasonable price,for the Arun Lifeboat.They are in !/12th scale,I believe,and all measurements you are asking can be worked out from them.It would save you a lot of time in your build?
Cheers,
Mick F

Thanks Mick, I have the hull and superstructure on order from models by design ....but while I am waiting to collect it I am trying to get as much in as I can ready. As far as I know plans come with it.

Best regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Netleyned on September 07, 2013, 06:55:46 pm
You will get a sketch plan at the best.
The RNLI plans at modest cost are a
'must have'

Ned
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 07, 2013, 07:52:46 pm
You will get a sketch plan at the best.
The RNLI plans at modest cost are a
'must have'

Ned

Thanks Ned. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: irishcarguy on September 07, 2013, 11:47:24 pm
Hi Dave I got the RNLI Plans for my Tamar & are worth every penny you pay for them, much better than the kit plans, Mick B.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 08, 2013, 12:33:42 pm
Hi Dave I got the RNLI Plans for my Tamar & are worth every penny you pay for them, much better than the kit plans, Mick B.

Thanks Mick, will have to get some.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 10, 2013, 09:26:27 pm
Hi all placed my order with speedline tonight for the Y boat (rib) will be interesting to see if it can become a working model.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 03, 2013, 11:28:29 am
Y boat arrived so I will be looking to see if this can be made into a working model, so if anyone has any ideas then please let me know. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on October 03, 2013, 11:33:03 am
ask lifeboatpaul, who's selling his Arun on the for sale section..........he built a working Y boat into his.
 
neil.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 03, 2013, 11:37:44 am
ask lifeboatpaul, who's selling his Arun on the for sale section..........he built a working Y boat into his.
 
neil.

Thanks Neil, I have been looking at his.......what a boat  :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 10, 2013, 08:57:33 pm
Hi all, what are your thoughts on cabin windows. As I will not be fitting out the interior would it be best to blacken out the windows or fit clear glazing.... your thoughts please.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on October 10, 2013, 10:01:22 pm
hi dave.........I just spray the backs of the glazing plastic I use with a satin black and then stick to the frame with double sided tape.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 10, 2013, 10:07:48 pm
Thanks Neil, as shown in your photos the windows look the part blacked out.....thanks mate. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 12, 2013, 11:52:57 am
Hi all, can anyone tell me if the Arun lifeboat done say 20 Knott's what would the scale speed be for the 1/12 scale Arun.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 12, 2013, 06:29:56 pm
Hi all, with the Blackpool show coming up and I am putting together a list I would like to ask which would be best suited to a boat this size, M4 or M5 shafts.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Netleyned on October 12, 2013, 06:39:21 pm
Just check the props are available in m4  and m5 
before ordering or buying shafts.

Ned
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mrpenguin on October 12, 2013, 10:03:33 pm
Hi all, can anyone tell me if the Arun lifeboat done say 20 Knott's what would the scale speed be for the 1/12 scale Arun.

Regards Dave.

Thinking the scale speed for a 1:12 model may be 1/12 actual speed? The maths: 20 knots = 37 km/hour divided by 12 is about 3 km/hour - a slow walking pace....

Hope that helps..?
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 12, 2013, 10:37:35 pm

Thinking the scale speed for a 1:12 model may be 1/12 actual speed? The maths: 20 knots = 37 km/hour divided by 12 is about 3 km/hour - a slow walking pace....

Hope that helps..?

Many thanks, if this correct the 2x 850s i have should push it along very nice and still some in reserve. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 13, 2013, 02:35:51 pm
As I am use to tugs and running them on car fan motors I have never had to worry about the amount of amps getting drawn, so now I am moving onto lifeboats and the set up I am using being two 850 motors driving 4 blade 55mm props what are your thoughts on speed controllers.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: imsinking on October 13, 2013, 02:56:15 pm
As I am use to tugs and running them on car fan motors I have never had to worry about the amount of amps getting drawn, so now I am moving onto lifeboats and the set up I am using being two 850 motors driving 4 blade 55mm props what are your thoughts on speed controllers.

Regards Dave.
Dont forget to put Substantial TOWING hitches on the back , to 'rescue' broken down boat's  O0 
Maybe think about water cooling on t'motors ?
Micro gyro's FR40's the way to go with E S C's depending on the voltage , MTRONIKS(genuine ones ) otherwise . . .
Bill
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 13, 2013, 03:15:44 pm
Dont forget to put Substantial TOWING hitches on the back , to 'rescue' broken down boat's  O0 
Maybe think about water cooling on t'motors ?
Micro gyro's FR40's the way to go with E S C's depending on the voltage , MTRONIKS(genuine ones ) otherwise . . .
Bill

Thanks Bill, as for cooling the motors I was thinking of a fan.......but I will look at the water cooled option as well.
Micro gyro's forgot about them and have used them in the passed but went off them when I had one go on fire.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 14, 2013, 08:19:58 pm
Hi all, been looking into sound systems today and have decided on the robbe sound module navy from Cornwall models as I like the idea of the engine sound continues even when say the horn sounds.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 19, 2013, 04:59:55 pm
Well I have now collected my Arun from Blackpool and my first thoughts were.....what a beast it looks brilliant now looking forward to making a start. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: irishcarguy on October 19, 2013, 05:30:51 pm
Hi Dave if you can get fans from old computers they are generally better quality than the ones sold in hobby stores & better yet are usually free. Mick B.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 19, 2013, 05:46:09 pm
Hi Dave if you can get fans from old computers they are generally better quality than the ones sold in hobby stores & better yet are usually free. Mick B.

Hi Mick, thanks mate I never thought of old PC fans .....will get one now. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 19, 2013, 09:54:23 pm
Well now at home I have given the boat a good looking over and I must say I am more than happy and would recommend models by design to anyone. All so at the show I got the crew figures from Adrian and they are  finished to a high standard, also on my list was a sound system but my mind was made up once I listened to the action p100 so impressed I got one of them......so all in all I had a good day all round. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 21, 2013, 04:06:58 pm
Hi all, only done the stand so far. Next will be the shafts and rudders.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 21, 2013, 04:12:30 pm
A better photo
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 21, 2013, 09:45:12 pm
Hi all I have noticed a few blemishes in need of a bit of filler, what would be best to fill these as they are not deep.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Stavros on October 21, 2013, 10:19:46 pm
Read all about it on the painting section But just for YOU Easy Light
 
 
Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: johno 52-11 on October 21, 2013, 10:26:56 pm

Thinking the scale speed for a 1:12 model may be 1/12 actual speed? The maths: 20 knots = 37 km/hour divided by 12 is about 3 km/hour - a slow walking pace....

Hope that helps..?

  The calculation for scale speed is not the speed of the real boat divided by the scale but but the speed of the real boat divided by the square root of the scale. As you are building a 1/12 boat the square root is 3.4641. The Arun had a top speed of 18.2 Knots so you are looking for a top speed of 5.25 knots. The motors I would recommend are the 900's but you can't get them any more but your 850's should get it something near. Are you aware that there were only 3 Arun's in the fleet that were 52 feet and had that wheelhouse design these being 52-08 52-09 and 52-10
 
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Netleyned on October 22, 2013, 08:23:48 am
http://www.modelboatbits.com/shop/article_MBB-900M/900-HIGH-TORQUE-MOTOR.html?sessid=n3kkG6Gwpw7sMpwwX203rswPViouoCltCN7KADg18SS5upcxRX0lQdzTYBAjZzi7&shop_param=cid%3D19%26aid%3DMBB-900M%26 (http://www.modelboatbits.com/shop/article_MBB-900M/900-HIGH-TORQUE-MOTOR.html?sessid=n3kkG6Gwpw7sMpwwX203rswPViouoCltCN7KADg18SS5upcxRX0lQdzTYBAjZzi7&shop_param=cid%3D19%26aid%3DMBB-900M%26)


Try Steve for these.


Ned
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 22, 2013, 11:36:20 am
Hi John, thanks for showing how to work out the sale speed it's a big help to working out the motors needed. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 22, 2013, 11:39:39 am
http://www.modelboatbits.com/shop/article_MBB-900M/900-HIGH-TORQUE-MOTOR.html?sessid=n3kkG6Gwpw7sMpwwX203rswPViouoCltCN7KADg18SS5upcxRX0lQdzTYBAjZzi7&shop_param=cid%3D19%26aid%3DMBB-900M%26 (http://www.modelboatbits.com/shop/article_MBB-900M/900-HIGH-TORQUE-MOTOR.html?sessid=n3kkG6Gwpw7sMpwwX203rswPViouoCltCN7KADg18SS5upcxRX0lQdzTYBAjZzi7&shop_param=cid%3D19%26aid%3DMBB-900M%26)


Try Steve for these.

Thanks Ned I had seen those but I thought they might be a bit slow at 3000 rpm.  :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.


Ned
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Netleyned on October 22, 2013, 11:43:48 am
I think they are run at 24V for the speedy guys.
Ask Stavros. He is an advocate of these motors.


Ned
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 22, 2013, 11:51:50 am
Thanks Ned, you are right they seem to run them on 24 volts, but I am not after speed as this would stir the lake up and would be no good to others with small boats.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 22, 2013, 11:54:14 am
Read all about it on the painting section But just for YOU Easy Light
 
 
Dave

Thanks mate  :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Stavros on October 22, 2013, 01:50:09 pm
Thanks Ned, you are right they seem to run them on 24 volts, but I am not after speed as this would stir the lake up and would be no good to others with small boats.


Regards Dave.

 
The 900 motors are spot on for your needs with the arun you can run them on 12/18/24v on 12v it will go slower then scale speed 18v more or less scale...24 v over scale speed BUT this is FLAT out....rember whe she is built it is a HEAVY boat....run 24v all the time.............think of it this way you dont drive a Ferrari flat out EVERYWHERE do you !!!!!!!
Remeber you will need to water cool them and dont BOTHER running lead acid batts in her you need 12v stick packs
 
 
Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 22, 2013, 01:59:45 pm
Thanks Dave, with all that's been said I am now thinking of going down the brushless route the only problem is I know nothing about this kind of setup ..........so what would be recommended.

 Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 23, 2013, 03:57:05 pm
Hi all, today I managed to fit the prop shafts along with the rudders. Tomorrow I shall work on getting the motors in and hopefully all the electronics from action. I have decided to go with the motors I have purchaced I give it a run and then if I am not happy it will be the brushless way  :-)) :-))
Photos coming soon ( camera battery flat )

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 24, 2013, 05:38:05 pm
Hi all, today I spent hours fitting the motors, they are in now but I am far from happy so tomorrow they are coming out and I will start again . >:-o >:-o

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 25, 2013, 05:14:41 pm
Had a good day the motors are back in, also got the Action p100 sound system fitted everything is working just as it should. Tomorrow I shall fit the servo for the rudders and then it's just a case of preparing the hull ready for spraying.  :-))  :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Rottweiler on October 25, 2013, 05:20:37 pm
If your camera battery takes that long to charge,I dont think you will ever get round to charging the batteries for your boat! let us have some photos please!
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 25, 2013, 05:41:56 pm
If your camera battery takes that long to charge,I dont think you will ever get round to charging the batteries for your boat! let us have some photos please!

I will get some photos on tomorrow promise.  :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 25, 2013, 06:07:54 pm
Here is a photo will take more tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 25, 2013, 08:54:18 pm
Hi all, due to New Brighton lake being on the sea front it can get quite breeze so what I am after is a way to fastern the super structure on by way of concealed fixing.......any ideas anyone. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on October 25, 2013, 10:57:49 pm
you won't need to if the superstructure is a tight fit to the combing....the weight of the thing alone will keep it in place, and unless you going to sail in hurricane force winds you should have no problems.........never had any myself with similar structures, and Fleetwood is a windy old place at the best of times.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 26, 2013, 09:38:58 am
you won't need to if the superstructure is a tight fit to the combing....the weight of the thing alone will keep it in place, and unless you going to sail in hurricane force winds you should have no problems.........never had any myself with similar structures, and Fleetwood is a windy old place at the best of times.

Thanks Neil, always best to ask those that know. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: imsinking on October 26, 2013, 10:52:16 am
I think the point of latching the superstructure is being missed, if the boats knocked over/blown over the superstructure can , if attached, prevent sinking by slowing water intake , a loose item will blow off with air pressure from inside  <:(  & down it go's . . . I like to put a silicone seal around the bottom of the structure & latch it down on that aiding even more water sealing , tugs seem to suffer from water ingress thru the low deck line ? , this would be reduced with latching and a proper seal ?
Bill
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 26, 2013, 08:24:39 pm
Yes I have to agree with you Bill as we see far to often boats being hit resulting in superstructures being knocked off so just for peace of mind I would like install some sort of hidden device to unsure that this does'nt happen to my boat.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Stavros on October 26, 2013, 09:29:30 pm
Dave dont worry with an Arun the superstructue is heavy enough I used to have one and I used to wave jump with it and NEVER knocked one off
 
Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 26, 2013, 09:39:30 pm
Dave dont worry with an Arun the superstructue is heavy enough I used to have one and I used to wave jump with it and NEVER knocked one off
 
Dave

OK thanks Dave . :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 30, 2013, 06:12:06 pm
Hi all, nothing happing as far as the build goes due to ongoing problems with my leg. What I have been looking for is a recording of a lifeboat and coastguard  radio conversation that could be played on a sound system inside the lifeboat. Would anyone know of a web site that I can download this from.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: luke1993 on October 30, 2013, 07:01:17 pm
I have a recording of a sea king helicopter to a lifeboat I searched high and low  for this  and took months to source its crystal clear very very good it was a mp4 and I converted it with software I have to mp3 it can be played through one of the model sounds player or similar or a mp3 player that takes a micro sd
here is a link for the player http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-MODEL-BOAT-DIGITAL-SOUND-PLAYER-/141101722965?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item20da516d55#ht_1507wt_1255 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-MODEL-BOAT-DIGITAL-SOUND-PLAYER-/141101722965?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item20da516d55#ht_1507wt_1255)
 I know of only one more person who got this as I sold it to him with a model sounds player I have just bought another player and now have it for my lifeboat.
if your intrested send me a micro sd card and I will upload it for you for free and send it back to you
let me know if your intrested and pm me
luke
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: luke1993 on October 30, 2013, 07:03:32 pm
forgot to say the radio conversation is 9 mins long but once in player press the loop button and it will play continuous
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on October 30, 2013, 07:10:03 pm
Hi Luke, many thanks mate I have sent you a P M.  :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: luke1993 on October 30, 2013, 07:27:35 pm
reply sent mate with all details :-))
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 03, 2013, 07:19:52 pm
Hi all, still no more done on the build but what I have done is change my mind on motors, so the two 850s are coming out along with the speed controllers and being replaced with brushless which have been ordered today so hopefully they won't take to long till they come and then I can hopefully get back on track with the build. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 05, 2013, 12:49:30 pm
Hi all, my nice looking brushless motors have arrived, I am just waiting on the speed controllers now and then I can get back on track. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 08, 2013, 12:52:02 pm
I have a recording of a sea king helicopter to a lifeboat I searched high and low  for this  and took months to source its crystal clear very very good it was a mp4 and I converted it with software I have to mp3 it can be played through one of the model sounds player or similar or a mp3 player that takes a micro sd
here is a link for the player http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-MODEL-BOAT-DIGITAL-SOUND-PLAYER-/141101722965?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item20da516d55#ht_1507wt_1255 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-MODEL-BOAT-DIGITAL-SOUND-PLAYER-/141101722965?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item20da516d55#ht_1507wt_1255)
 I know of only one more person who got this as I sold it to him with a model sounds player I have just bought another player and now have it for my lifeboat.
if your interested send me a micro sd card and I will upload it for you for free and send it back to you
let me know if your interested and pm me

Luke



Hi Luke have got it back from you mate and it sounds brilliant.......... made up. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave





Dave, I've put the quote outside of the brackets for you.
ken
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 08, 2013, 04:56:36 pm
Thanks Ken.  :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 10, 2013, 02:41:34 pm
Hi all, had the boat out today for trials and I have to say it went brilliant I was very happy to see it turn in it's own length. As far as the motors go they have to come out ......very heavy on the batteries like most said but they did give the boat a good turn of speed, so will be a lot better when the brushless setup goes in.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 10, 2013, 02:42:27 pm
A few more.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 14, 2013, 07:02:38 pm
Hi all, the speed controller's have arrived so now I can get back into working on the boat. The new setup will be 2x 790kv brushless out runners and 2x water cooled 70ah speed controller's, also I have gone for stainless steel couplings and as far as batteries go I am running the motors on 14.8 volt 8ah lipo's driving 60mm 4 blade brass props. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 15, 2013, 09:07:58 pm
Hi all, the speed controllers ( brushless ) are water cooled, what's the best .....water scoops or a pump.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: McGherkin on November 15, 2013, 09:35:32 pm
Personally, I'd say pump. But that's mainly because I want water coming out of the exhausts and it wouldn't look very realistic if it stopped as soon as you stopped! Plus I like the idea of the ESCs and motors still being cooled whilst at a standstill, especially if you've just been on a big fast run and everything's running hot, you want to keep dumping that heat overboard after you've slowed down!

But scoops are a lot cheaper and easier to find/incorporate into the model. Getting pumps that have a suitable flow rate, and run continuously is hard, and you also then have another power draw, AND you still need a scoop or intake of some description to get the water to the pump anyway.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 15, 2013, 09:42:46 pm
Personally, I'd say pump. But that's mainly because I want water coming out of the exhausts and it wouldn't look very realistic if it stopped as soon as you stopped! Plus I like the idea of the ESCs and motors still being cooled whilst at a standstill, especially if you've just been on a big fast run and everything's running hot, you want to keep dumping that heat overboard after you've slowed down!

But scoops are a lot cheaper and easier to find/incorporate into the model. Getting pumps that have a suitable flow rate, and run continuously is hard, and you also then have another power draw, AND you still need a scoop or intake of some description to get the water to the pump anyway.

Thanks mate, I was thinking of a pump ....but as you say it's hard to find one that can run continuously. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: kinmel on November 15, 2013, 09:45:47 pm
Hi all, the speed controllers ( brushless ) are water cooled, what's the best .....water scoops or a pump.

Regards Dave.

Originally my Tamar used pumps for cooling water, but they tended to burn out and so I just use water scoops now.

The scoops do keep the ESc cool enough, but you do lose the realism without the high water flow the real boats emit from their exhausts.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: McGherkin on November 15, 2013, 09:50:33 pm
What about running a 12v motor on 6v, and mounting it in such a way that the motor is above the pump (to prevent water from dripping out of the pump into the motor)?
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 15, 2013, 09:56:26 pm
Hi Alan, nice to hear from you. As far as scoops go .....are the efficient at slow speed.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 15, 2013, 09:58:48 pm
What about running a 12v motor on 6v, and mounting it in such a way that the motor is above the pump (to prevent water from dripping out of the pump into the motor)?

Never thought of running a pump on 6 volts, may be worth a try. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: kinmel on November 15, 2013, 10:43:18 pm
Hi Alan, nice to hear from you. As far as scoops go .....are the efficient at slow speed.

Regards Dave.

Hi dave

In some early tests the EScs never got hot at all, even when running flat out; mine are designed for 70amps and I am operating below 20 amps.

I would still prefer a realistic amount of water out of the exhausts though, I am tempted leave the water scoops to cool the ESCs and additionally pump water direct into the exhausts only when I want the realism.  That way the pump is less stressed and isn't running all the time.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 16, 2013, 10:33:33 am
Hi dave

In some early tests the EScs never got hot at all, even when running flat out; mine are designed for 70amps and I am operating below 20 amps.

I would still prefer a realistic amount of water out of the exhausts though, I am tempted leave the water scoops to cool the ESCs and additionally pump water direct into the exhausts only when I want the realism.  That way the pump is less stressed and isn't running all the time.

Thanks Alan, I like that idea of using the pump now and again, so as I have never used scoops before were are these best placed .

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 16, 2013, 04:04:49 pm
Hi all, the brushless motors along the speed controllers are now fitted so hopefully I can get down to the lake tomorrow to undergo trials again. If all goes well I can move on to getting the hull ready for spraying. :-))

Regards Dave.  PS tried putting photos on but keeps rejecting due to size.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: baloo on November 16, 2013, 04:43:18 pm
Hi Dave,somebody on here somewhere said try robosizer and it does everything for you,i tried it and it works.I think it`s in the section about downloading photo`s.


Martin
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: baloo on November 16, 2013, 04:48:30 pm
Hello again Dave,it is in chit-chat section under photo resizing,page 10,then look for netleyned.

Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: kinmel on November 16, 2013, 04:53:29 pm
Thanks Alan, I like that idea of using the pump now and again, so as I have never used scoops before were are these best placed .

Regards Dave.

Ideally in the water flow through the propellors, but with the lifeboats anywhere deep inside the tunnel has a fast enough water flow.

Good luck tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Netleyned on November 16, 2013, 05:02:59 pm
Robosizer works for me.
Just set it for large email and
as you pick a photo from your files
it automatically resizes it .
Simples :-))

Ned
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 16, 2013, 05:25:05 pm
Thanks Martin and Ned will give it a try. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 16, 2013, 05:29:55 pm
Ideally in the water flow through the propellors, but with the lifeboats anywhere deep inside the tunnel has a fast enough water flow.

Good luck tomorrow.

Thanks Alan I get what you mean, ........no tunnels on the Arun though but as long as I get a good flow it should cool them enough. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: luke1993 on November 16, 2013, 09:21:58 pm
dave
might be of interest to you
  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-BOAT-WATER-PUMPS-/231096772560?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item35ce70e7d0 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-BOAT-WATER-PUMPS-/231096772560?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item35ce70e7d0)
cheers luke
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 16, 2013, 09:36:40 pm
dave
might be of interest to you
  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-BOAT-WATER-PUMPS-/231096772560?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item35ce70e7d0 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-BOAT-WAds Dave.TER-PUMPS-/231096772560?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item35ce70e7d0)
cheers luke

Thanks Luke. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.

Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 17, 2013, 01:28:22 pm
Hi all, had the Arun out today for trials, she was running on 14.8 volts 8ah lipo battery and did it go .........very fast but the good thing was it runs at approx  quarter throttle for about two hours and the low battery alarm had still not sounded. So as things stand I am very happy .......it looks impressive on the water, so now I can crack on getting the hull ready for spraying. :-))

Regards Dave.....PS sorry no photo's I was so keen to get to the lake I forgot the camera.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: kinmel on November 17, 2013, 02:19:34 pm
Hi all, had the Arun out today for trials, she was running on 14.8 volts 8ah lipo battery and did it go .........very fast but the good thing was it runs at approx  quarter throttle for about two hours and the low battery alarm had still not sounded. So as things stand I am very happy .......it looks impressive on the water, so now I can crack on getting the hull ready for spraying. :-))

Regards Dave.....PS sorry no photo's I was so keen to get to the lake I forgot the camera.

Well done Dave

Now the hard part starts  :-))
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 17, 2013, 02:31:51 pm
Thanks Alan, it was people like yourself who persuaded me to go brushless plus I had seen your Tamar and how well it went, so on to the hull now.  :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Rottweiler on November 17, 2013, 03:20:14 pm
I shall be putting brushless outrunners in my 1/12th scale Tamar,and have been assured by a well know Lifeboat builder that I do not need cooling,so that is the way I intend to go?
Mick F
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Netleyned on November 17, 2013, 03:25:15 pm
Cracked it Boyo :-))
Speed and run time, a perfect combination.
Now you have to spend two years making it
look as good as it goes.

Ned
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: luke1993 on November 17, 2013, 03:40:15 pm
Hi Dave,somebody on here somewhere said try robosizer and it does everything for you,i tried it and it works.I think it`s in the section about downloading photo`s.
 check your camera like mine does and many more digital cameras there is a email setting.
I have a small button press it and email comes up on lcd screen auto sizes the pics ,works for pics on here too don't have to fuss about with other programmes.
just a suggestion as I never knew I had this function until I played with camera and mines only a cheapish sony 8.1 mgp
about 8 years old so sure modern cameras have this too
cheers

Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 17, 2013, 04:33:45 pm
Cracked it Boyo :-))
Speed and run time, a perfect combination.
Now you have to spend two years making it
look as good as it goes.

Ned

Thanks Ned, it's now as you say a lot of work ahead to make it look as good as it goes but that's the part I enjoy, I just do a bit at the time as there's no rush. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 17, 2013, 04:40:22 pm
I shall be putting brushless outrunners in my 1/12th scale Tamar,and have been assured by a well know Lifeboat builder that I do not need cooling,so that is the way I intend to go?
Mick F

Hi Mick, this is the first for me so I could not advise anyone but as far as cooling I would think at little more than tick over things are not going to get that warm.......I shall keep an eye on them and see how things go.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Norseman on November 17, 2013, 04:47:07 pm
Paul Red181 is the chap to talk to about cooling brushless. He did a lot of research and development with the late HS93. His cooling continues post run because of latent heat transfer problems.

Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 17, 2013, 04:51:54 pm
Paul Red181 is the chap to talk to about cooling brushless. He did a lot of research and development with the late HS93. His cooling continues post run because of latent heat transfer problems.

Dave

Thanks Dave, I have a lot to learn on this brushless setup mate. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: pipster on November 17, 2013, 05:15:42 pm
I'm running brushless on my 1/16 Tamar.  I was assured by the shop I bought the motors and ESCs from that there's no need to water cool. It's only had a couple of trial runs and so far so good.  They certainly infinitely cooler than the brushed set up on my Trent.
Phil
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 17, 2013, 05:26:50 pm
I'm running brushless on my 1/16 Tamar.  I was assured by the shop I bought the motors and ESCs from that there's no need to water cool. It's only had a couple of trial runs and so far so good.  They certainly infinitely cooler than the brushed set up on my Trent.
Phil

Hi Phil, I would of thought that if they were run at full throttle for long period's of time then yes it would be wise to water cool them, but as I found today it was far to fast on half throttle so the rest of the time it was going round on little more than tick over so I would think they will be OK .

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: imsinking on November 17, 2013, 07:16:56 pm
I was at the lake today , an impressive turn of SPEED  %%  from such small motors (outrunners) I've been wary of LIPO's & Brushless . . . maybe it's time to join the new order  :embarrassed:  , one thing tho' does an E S C work harder at low throttle settings  as it's regulating the power , while at full throttle the powers just going straight thru ? I've never given it a thought . . . .
Bill
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 17, 2013, 07:34:18 pm
I was at the lake today , an impressive turn of SPEED  %%  from such small motors (outrunners) I've been wary of LIPO's & Brushless . . . maybe it's time to join the new order  :embarrassed:  , one thing tho' does an E S C work harder at low throttle settings  as it's regulating the power , while at full throttle the powers just going straight thru ? I've never given it a thought . . . .
Bill

Hi Bill, I would have thought the E S C would have to work harder at high speed which would demand higher amps resulting in them getting hotter...........maybe someone will let us know for sure. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: McGherkin on November 18, 2013, 12:17:45 pm
Yes, as far as I know it's high speed running which generates heat in ESCs, as mentioned due to the amps.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 18, 2013, 01:35:54 pm
Yes, as far as I know it's high speed running which generates heat in ESCs, as mentioned due to the amps.

Thanks mate, that's what I thought. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 19, 2013, 08:19:12 pm
Hi all, all the brass rod I had on order has arrived so tomorrow I shall have a go at making the railings .

Any tips would be most welcome. :-)) :-))

 Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on November 19, 2013, 08:56:12 pm
silver solder them Dave... a lot stronger and will keep better than soft soldered.

neil.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 19, 2013, 09:00:57 pm
silver solder them Dave... a lot stronger and will keep better than soft soldered.

neil.

Thanks Neil, silver solder is one thing I have never tried........but if I don't try I won't learn. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on November 19, 2013, 10:43:17 pm
if you want to have a demonstration or fancy having a bash, prefabricate them at home........bring them up here, one morning and you can have a bash.........got plenty of solder and lots of gas, lol
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 20, 2013, 10:57:08 am
if you want to have a demonstration or fancy having a bash, prefabricate them at home........bring them up here, one morning and you can have a bash.........got plenty of solder and lots of gas, lol

Hi Neil, many thanks mate for the offer but due to the problems I have with my leg I can't drive that far.......I should be OK I can solder no problem but never tried silver soldering.
Thanks again mate I have only met you a few times but anyone who reads this I must say this is the type of guy you are ........will do everything you can to help others. :-)) :-))

Very best regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 20, 2013, 04:11:47 pm
Hi all, I managed to make a start on the stern railing today, I am happy with the way they are going.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: kinmel on November 20, 2013, 04:21:00 pm
You are off to a great start there Dave  :-))
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 20, 2013, 04:43:21 pm
You are off to a great start there Dave  :-))

Thanks Alan, it took me the best part 6 hours doing that bit .........a long way to go but no need to rush. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 21, 2013, 10:24:31 am
Hi all, a bit more done .
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 21, 2013, 10:25:39 am
Another photo.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 21, 2013, 11:05:50 am
OK all, now time for the bow rail, again this will be fabricated from 3mm brass rod.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 21, 2013, 12:02:39 pm
The bow rail ........coming along.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Rottweiler on November 21, 2013, 12:22:47 pm
Beginning to look good matey! I would suggest you place something under the heat to stop the wood burning though! What are you using for a heat sink to stop previously soldered stansions from becoming too hot and coming loose again?Someone suggested using stainless steel clothes pegs,which I am waiting to arrive,as both holders and heat sinks.
Mick F
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 21, 2013, 12:41:44 pm
Hi Mick, thanks mate , to stop other joints coming loose I am using a pair of mole grips to divert the heat away.....worked good so far. :-)

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 21, 2013, 01:14:22 pm
A few more photos to show how things are coming along. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 21, 2013, 01:15:01 pm
Another.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 21, 2013, 01:15:59 pm
Last one for now.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on November 21, 2013, 01:44:09 pm
Hi all, I managed to make a start on the stern railing today, I am happy with the way they are going.

Regards Dave.

looks excellent matey.
neil.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 21, 2013, 01:51:13 pm
looks excellent matey.
neil.

Thanks mate. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 21, 2013, 02:19:10 pm
I think the next bit to tackle is the cutting out of the fly bridge and make good the deck.......think this calls for the dremel. OK I am thinking ahead ........I am planning on fabricating the top rails out of 3mm brass rod and the mast out of 6mm brass tube ........so question...... would all the brass on the top make it top heavy.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 23, 2013, 12:25:22 pm
Hi all, I have now cut the flybridge out although there's a lot of work with the file to get the smooth finish I am looking for. So next question is.......what would the recommendations be in order to gain a smooth finish on the inside of the flybridge......filler or line it with thin styrene...your thoughts please.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on November 23, 2013, 03:23:26 pm
I would definitely use a thin scraping of filler, Dave......that's what I did on the flying bridge of my clyde lifeboat, and gives you a reasonable surface..........I wouldn't even contemplate trying to get a decent fit with styrene sheet, myself.

once sanded down I used filler putty compound to get a very fine and smooth finish, using wet and dry paper, wet with a little fairy liquid on the warm water, using 320 and then 800 grade paper.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 23, 2013, 05:21:58 pm
Hi Neil, I was worried about the boat becoming a bit top heavy with the rails and mast yet to be added with these being made from brass and then the weight of filler. But as you have shown in the photos the amount of filler is minimal. Thanks mate I will go with the way you've shown. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 28, 2013, 10:36:54 am
Hi all, I decided to start on the mast, there's a long way to go and probably a few more burnt fingers but it's slowly coming together. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Norseman on November 28, 2013, 01:46:42 pm
Get one of these Dave
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMALL-BRAZING-SILVER-SOLDERING-HEARTH-/261168185275
They come up from time to time.

Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 28, 2013, 01:52:38 pm
Get one of these Dave
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMALL-BRAZING-SILVER-SOLDERING-HEARTH-/261168185275
They come up from time to time.

Dave

Thanks Dave, will keep me eye's open. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 28, 2013, 04:33:46 pm
The above mast I had started has now been scrapped the reason being I was not 100% happy, so I have ordered more 5mm brass tube so when that comes I shall start again......sorry guys but it has to be right.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 03, 2013, 12:06:04 pm
Hi all, a photo of were I am up to as you can see it's coming along slowly. I have also got the brass tube I had on order so I can build the mast yet again. As you can also see is the flybridge has been cut out and made good

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mark w on December 03, 2013, 11:48:50 pm
Looking great :-))  I've become more interested in RNLI lifeboats, after many tug models. Have ordered from Models By Design, like their products. Need to get better a soldering, my least favorite part of building  {:-{ (would much rather pant/weathering).
 
Mark
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 04, 2013, 09:53:52 am
Looking great :-))  I've become more interested in RNLI lifeboats, after many tug models. Have ordered from Models By Design, like their products. Need to get better a soldering, my least favorite part of building  {:-{ (would much rather pant/weathering).
 
Mark

Hi Mark, thanks mate you say you have ordered from model by design.........is it a lifeboat you have ordered if so which one, like you I have had many tugs but I also decided to have something different. :-))

 Best regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mark w on December 04, 2013, 04:33:46 pm
Dave,
 
I've ordered a Cyngus 33 fishing boat in 1/12th scale. Like their mouldings, shipping went well to the US. Am thinking about maybe the Tyne, Solent, or Watson class lifeboats. I like to build in 1/12 scale if I can.
 
Mark
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 04, 2013, 05:13:13 pm
Hi Mark, you have made a great choice, like you have said their moulding's are excellent and at 1/12 scale makes them a good size to work on. When you start your build please put a build log on the forum and you will find a lot of help and advice if you should need it. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mark w on December 04, 2013, 05:28:13 pm
Will do  :-))
 
Mark
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 05, 2013, 04:25:37 pm
Hi all, a bit more done today on the mast so it's all coming together now ........A bit on the slow side but having said that there' no rush.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 05, 2013, 04:27:42 pm
Better photo I hope.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Norseman on December 05, 2013, 08:51:07 pm
A bit on the slow side

Warp Speed compared to my stuff Dave. O0
Keep up the good work.

Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 05, 2013, 09:07:36 pm
Thanks Dave, all that matters is the end result mate, :-)) and up to now I am happy. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 07, 2013, 03:17:38 pm
A bit more done on the railings, hopefully I will get them finished tomorrow.

 Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 07, 2013, 03:18:35 pm
Another photo.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 07, 2013, 08:59:38 pm
Been looking at the railings coming down from the flybridge and decided I am not 100% happy with them, so it's back to the drawing board. I have placed another order for more brass rod so once it arrives I shall start them again.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 07, 2013, 09:02:33 pm

Are you using  Rods  or  Tubes.  ?

I've found that tubes are lighter and easy to bend and solder.

Regards

Ken


Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 07, 2013, 09:33:52 pm
Are you using  Rods  or  Tubes.  ?

I've found that tubes are lighter and easy to bend and solder.

Regards

Ken

Hi Ken, I am using 3mm brass rod mate......I have a nice little bender that only does 3mm so the bending and the soldering is not a problem it was the height of the rails coming down the steps I was unhappy with.
I just put down to the fun of building boats......if it didn't do me head in from time to time it would get to the stage of not being a challenge, and then the fun building would be lost. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 08, 2013, 09:48:07 pm

Yes.  The fun of construction and creating is great.

Keep up the good work.    :-))


ken


Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 18, 2013, 04:05:53 pm
Hi all, today I managed to do some more on the railings, there is still work to do on the mast and then I can fix it all in place. It's coming on slow but sure.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on January 13, 2014, 04:19:13 pm
Hi all, today I managed to to get back into working on the Arun, as you can see I have made a start on the casualty lifts. The next job will be the hand rails along each side of the superstructure and then a good rubbing down ready to get some paint on.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on January 13, 2014, 04:21:02 pm
One more photo
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on January 13, 2014, 04:48:28 pm
good progress there matey... :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on January 13, 2014, 06:48:44 pm
good progress there matey... :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Thanks Neil.  :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on January 29, 2014, 07:22:10 pm
Hi all just a quick update on the Arun, a good mate of mine has got the hull doing a great spray job on it while I get on with the superstructure as I have decided to make the casualty lifts operational so as far as thing are I am more than happy with the way it's coming together. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on January 29, 2014, 07:23:17 pm
Another.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on January 29, 2014, 07:24:59 pm
Last for now.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on January 31, 2014, 07:23:45 pm
The motors for the casualty lifts are now fitted, also the paint work has come along brilliantly. The next job will be fitting out the flybridge.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on January 31, 2014, 07:24:33 pm
More
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on January 31, 2014, 07:25:18 pm
Last for now.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 01, 2014, 07:34:31 pm
Today I removed the railings from the superstructure and fill any blemishes left from the mould, tomorrow I will do some rubbing down before I start fitting out the flybridge.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 01, 2014, 07:35:15 pm
Last for now.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 02, 2014, 10:16:34 am
Hi all, can anyone tell me what is best to use for the aerials on the Arun as they are quite long so I need something that has plenty of bend and not brittle.

 Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 02, 2014, 11:12:24 am

I used plastic tube which fitted into the brass tube uprights.  That way, they could be removed for transport.

Cheers

ken



Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 02, 2014, 11:17:06 am
I used plastic tube which fitted into the brass tube uprights.  That way, they could be removed for transport.

Cheers

ken

Thanks Ken never thought of doing them that way. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 02, 2014, 11:25:38 am

I zoomed in on mine to show the effect

Ken


Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 02, 2014, 11:41:27 am
Thanks Ken, they sure look the part. Looking at them on the photo I would guess at the black section being 3 mm and the white at 2 mm, would that be about right.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 02, 2014, 11:52:45 am



                   :-))


right on



Ken

Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 02, 2014, 12:10:06 pm
Thanks Ken. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 05, 2014, 03:21:34 pm
Hi all, the hull is now finished as far as the spaying goes, the white strip you can see will be covered by the rubber bump strip once it's fitted. So now I have moved on to cutting out the windows .......there's only 17 so they should keep me busy for a while.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 05, 2014, 03:22:33 pm
Next.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 05, 2014, 03:23:31 pm
Last for now.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 06, 2014, 11:53:40 am
Hi all, the last of the windows have been cut out roughly so now it's time for the file, for the windows I am going to use 0.5mm matt black styrene. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 07, 2014, 03:44:26 pm
Today I got the rest of the windows roughly cut out along with the air intakes on the side, hopefully I can get them all tidied up and the do the bit of work required on the flybridge, once done I can get it ready for spraying.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 07, 2014, 08:12:38 pm
Hi all, I have been looking for a bow roller for the Arun but as of yet I have not had any joy.....So I ask does anyone know of were I will get one........or an easy way to make one.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 13, 2014, 08:58:38 pm
Hi all, can anyone tell me were I can purchase a R.N.L.I flag from for my Arun.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Stavros on February 13, 2014, 09:35:43 pm
Barries Modle Boat Lettering
 
 
Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 13, 2014, 09:46:17 pm
Barries Modle Boat Lettering
 
 
Dave

Had a look there Dave and could not find any r.n.l.I flags.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Stavros on February 13, 2014, 09:58:07 pm
 http://www.modellettering.com/catDetail.asp?categorycode=04 (http://www.modellettering.com/catDetail.asp?categorycode=04)
 
 
Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Stavros on February 13, 2014, 10:02:27 pm
He will MAKE you anything
 
Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: RMH on February 13, 2014, 10:07:32 pm
BECC are a good source for flags as well  http://www.becc.co.uk/contents/en-uk/d31.html (http://www.becc.co.uk/contents/en-uk/d31.html)
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 13, 2014, 10:10:53 pm
He will MAKE you anything
 
Dave

Thanks Dave, will give him a call tomorrow. Never thought to ask him when I placed an order for the dacals.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 14, 2014, 07:39:09 am
BECC are a good source for flags as well  http://www.becc.co.uk/contents/en-uk/d31.html (http://www.becc.co.uk/contents/en-uk/d31.html)

Thanks mate. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mog10 on February 14, 2014, 10:19:51 am
Hunter Systems do the BECC Flags  :-))
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 14, 2014, 03:28:04 pm
Hunter Systems do the BECC Flags  :-))

Thanks mate. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 14, 2014, 05:42:25 pm
Having purchaced an action noisy thing at Blackpool I decided to make use of the other sounds that are programed, so I installed one of their sound selector switches today and have to say it sounds great. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 14, 2014, 06:49:00 pm
Hi all, I have been looking for a bow roller for the Arun but as of yet I have not had any joy.....So I ask does anyone know of were I will get one........or an easy way to make one.

Regards Dave.

Can anyone help me out on this please.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: baloo on February 14, 2014, 09:59:32 pm
PM sent regarding flags Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 14, 2014, 10:25:42 pm
PM sent regarding flags Dave

Thanks Martin. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 15, 2014, 01:08:32 pm
Hi all, the superstructure has now been sprayed, the orange looks pale on the photo but it is VW brilliant orange.
The next job will be the none slip matting to go on the top walk way and the steps, so up to now I am very happy with the progress made.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 15, 2014, 01:09:46 pm
Last for now.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 15, 2014, 07:48:38 pm
Had a good afternoon working on the Arun and as you can see it's looking great.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on February 15, 2014, 10:35:46 pm
looking great Dave......very crisp.
neil.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 15, 2014, 10:40:05 pm
looking great Dave......very crisp.
neil.

Thanks Neil, up to now I am very happy with it. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 16, 2014, 06:35:53 pm
Hi all, a bit more done today, next will be to get the wire inside the mast ready for the lights.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 16, 2014, 06:36:57 pm
Last for now.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 21, 2014, 07:55:41 pm
Hi all, today I managed to get most of the running and search lights wired up, also it was time for the crew to board so it's now starting to look the part.........I am very happy with the way it looks.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 21, 2014, 07:56:34 pm
Another .
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 21, 2014, 07:57:33 pm
Last for now.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 03, 2014, 11:59:39 pm
hi dave

what colour scheme are you planing on painting her in,   the current colours or the old one
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 04, 2014, 11:39:49 am
hi dave

what colour scheme are you planing on painting her in,   the current colours or the old one

Hi mate, the colours are as they are now mate in the photos, some of the lifeboat guys on the forum kindly put up the list of paints required. As this is my first lifeboat I don't know if it's the old or the current but I am sure the lifeboat guys will put us right on this. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 04, 2014, 04:48:05 pm
hi dave

here is my 1:12th Arun in what i call the old colours ( i did not build her)  in theses photos she 52-11 but am in the middle making her in to 52-37
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 04, 2014, 04:49:57 pm
some more of her
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 04, 2014, 05:51:49 pm
Very nice mate, I hope to get mine on the water tomorrow for trials weather permitting so I should have some photos of her on the water. It's based on the Mabel Alice No 52-24.  :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 04, 2014, 06:09:24 pm
A photo of how my Arun looks so far.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 04, 2014, 06:14:02 pm
she looking very nice,   mine hopfully will be the kenneth thelwall of holyhead once her make over is finished

i liked were you put your RNLI logo on the other side of the window as to both 52- 24 and 52-37 never had that superstructure  that yours has and also what i have,  the real ones had the flat side and have been struggling were to put the boats name,
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 04, 2014, 06:28:45 pm
Thanks mate i am happy with the way it's gone so far.......Please do a thread on yours to show how you get along, it will be good to keep track on how you go. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 04, 2014, 06:33:53 pm
Thanks mate i am happy with the way it's gone so far.......Please do a thread on yours to show how you get along, it will be good to keep track on how you go. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.

i taken about 5 or so photos so far from start to how it is now,  superstructure  all painted and  i had a small go on the hull,   then it be ready for all the transfers as holyhead had the Arun in colours that the RNLI had the Severn in

i was thinking of starting a thread when its all done but can start one if people would like to see how far i gone
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 04, 2014, 07:27:57 pm
Hi mate, yes please start a thread I for one would like to see how you get on. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 04, 2014, 08:32:32 pm
Hi mate, yes please start a thread I for one would like to see how you get on. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.

ok i get theme of my phone
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 04, 2014, 08:49:01 pm
ok i get theme of my phone

Thanks mate look forward to see how you get on. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 04, 2014, 08:58:19 pm
Thanks mate look forward to see how you get on. :-))

Regards Dave.

just posted the photos i took at the moment
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: imsinking on March 05, 2014, 03:56:54 pm
We got fed up of Dave running his Arun round in the buff . . . .
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/42/5anw.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/165anwj)


So he's took the hint and . . . .
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/845/efov.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/nhefovj)
Still a way to go , more fittings / handrails / toeboards etc .


These Models By Design Aruns look imposing on the water . . .
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/542/phjo.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/f2phjoj)
Not as HEAVY as you would think either . . .


Bill  :-))
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 05, 2014, 04:03:16 pm
Thanks Bill for posting the photos on, I will have to remember to take a camera. I can say I am made up with the way it goes so now I can get stuck in and get her finished. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 09, 2014, 06:09:26 pm
Hi all, a bit more has been done on the Arun as in the rails along each side with the kick boards. It should be completed in a week or two then I will be looking forward to enjoy sailing her. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 09, 2014, 07:52:28 pm
hi dave

she is really look good  :-))
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 09, 2014, 08:46:49 pm
hi dave

she is really look good  :-))

Thanks Garreth. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 10, 2014, 10:36:42 am
Here is a photo of the Arun taken by a mate yesterday at the lake.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: slinger on March 13, 2014, 01:58:03 pm
Hi, just a quick enquiry, what size and length of shafts do you have in her?
Regards
Slinger
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 13, 2014, 04:29:12 pm
hi dave

do you plan to have workable crane and search lights etc
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 13, 2014, 07:01:27 pm
Hi, just a quick enquiry, what size and length of shafts do you have in her?
Regards
Slinger

Hi mate, the shafts are 9 inch m4.

Hope this helps.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 13, 2014, 07:07:16 pm
hi dave

do you plan to have workable crane and search lights etc

Hi Garreth, the search lights are working mate along with all the navigation and deck lights, I am looking into a working crane but I have not decided yet. The two casualty lifts both work from the transmitter which was easy to do and look the part.

Best regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 14, 2014, 12:42:51 am
oh nice  would love to see the lifts,   :}
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 14, 2014, 08:02:17 am
oh nice  would love to see the lifts,   :}

I am sure you will get to see one day......I will try to make it to your event in July. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on March 14, 2014, 11:44:57 am
that would be nice of you  :-))
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on April 16, 2014, 03:28:11 pm
Finally got round to the Y boat, now for the price I paid it's a joke..........poor quality in fact I am now looking for a replacement and then it will put in the bin were it belongs. :(( :((

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on April 16, 2014, 05:03:52 pm
A bit more done, the outboard motor I had in the box of bits .......by far better than what came with it.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on April 16, 2014, 05:04:59 pm
Last for now.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on April 19, 2014, 12:23:07 pm
A few photos taken at the lake yesterday.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on April 19, 2014, 12:24:31 pm
Another
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on April 19, 2014, 12:25:38 pm
Another
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on April 19, 2014, 12:28:17 pm
Last for now. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Neil on April 19, 2014, 08:05:09 pm
very nice indeed dave. neil.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on April 19, 2014, 08:26:31 pm
very nice indeed dave. neil.

Thanks Neil, still a little bit to do but overall I am very happy with the way it turned out. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on June 21, 2014, 10:15:30 am
Hi all, I had the Arun in the lake just over a week ago and hit a buoy that was full of water and only just visible, the impact on the rudder was so hard it dislodged the rudder shaft resulting in the boat taking on water very fast. By the time we lifted her out there was about 6/7 inches of water covering everything in the boat.....like the brushless motors..speed controllers.... lipo batteries and also my Action p100. In a way I was lucky that after leaving all to dry the only thing that's failed to recover was the Action p100.  <:( <:( <:(

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on July 25, 2014, 09:21:50 pm
Hi all, the Arun is back up and running as good as before, it will get another outing on Sunday at the lifeboat fundraising day in aid of the R.N.L.I. at New brighton . :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on July 28, 2014, 07:02:17 pm
Two photos taken by one of our members yesterday at the R.N.L.I  fund raising event.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 09, 2015, 11:06:21 am
hi all I am getting my arun ready for this season and as you can see in the photo above I have no fenders that hang over the side, so can anyone tell me if there is anywhere that sell rubber ones instead of the hard resin type.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: tonyO on February 09, 2015, 12:21:26 pm
Hi
Speedline sell fendering in 1/12 scale.
tonyO
Southern Model Lifeboat Society
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: spongie on February 09, 2015, 01:55:01 pm
Models By Design & Macs Mouldings do ball or tube fenders.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 09, 2015, 06:46:15 pm
Thanks chaps will have a look.  :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave,
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Dochertb on April 07, 2015, 10:04:41 pm
Can anyone tell me were I can get a bowhead roller
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on April 08, 2015, 07:49:09 am
Can anyone tell me were I can get a bowhead roller

I could not find one when I built my Arun so a mate of mine made one out of brass. you never know someone may know of a supplier.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: GAZOU on April 08, 2015, 08:06:36 am
 ok2
MERSEY Dave

A retailer CAP MAQUETTES will have for what you look

http://cap-maquettes.com/contents/en-uk/otherurl.html?ourl=D1433
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Pete C on April 11, 2015, 12:07:56 pm
I'm going to be getting on with mine soon... :)
Just need some advice as I'm new to boating. regarding the props for the 1/12th arun, I know I need four bladed props at 65mm, but the props are available in 4 different types A.B.C.D.    %% now which would be good form me ? if it was down to style I'd like to go for Raboesch 4 blade type C.  would this be good ? or does it even matter ... {:-{
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: morley bill 1 on April 11, 2015, 03:56:40 pm
Raboesch are ok but for efficiency I always go for prop shop there worth the extra cost ..Bill..
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on April 13, 2015, 10:05:52 am
I'm going to be getting on with mine soon... :)
Just need some advice as I'm new to boating. regarding the props for the 1/12th arun, I know I need four bladed props at 65mm, but the props are available in 4 different types A.B.C.D.    %% now which would be good form me ? if it was down to style I'd like to go for Raboesch 4 blade type C.  would this be good ? or does it even matter ... {:-{

Hi Mate, I have the 65mm Raboesch 4 blade type C on my Arun driven by brushless motors on 14.8 volts and it goes well over scale speed. Some of the members on here have seen it go and due to the size of the lake I cannot get it up to full speed, you have not said what motor your going to use but I would recommend you go for brushless setup as it will run far better.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Pete C on April 13, 2015, 04:31:14 pm
I was thinking brushless... after reading everything here... Thanks for the advice..
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Dochertb on May 04, 2015, 11:22:48 pm
Hi all, a bit more has been done on the Arun as in the rails along each side with the kick boards. It should be completed in a week or two then I will be looking forward to enjoy sailing her. :-))

Regards Dave.


We're did you get the bow rollar from
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on May 05, 2015, 07:40:05 am
Hi Mate, The bow roller was made from brass by a mate of mine. like you I couldn't find one anywhere.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 10, 2015, 10:08:49 am
As I am having my leg amputated in the coming weeks I may have to sell my pride and joy...my Arun... due to the size, I will not decide until I get over the operation but I think it will be to big for me to carry. Its a shame as it has not been out this season at all but I also have the option to swap it as well, time will tell.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: irishcarguy on August 10, 2015, 11:37:18 pm
Hi Dave sorry to hear about your leg & op but don't give up on your boat yet. If you send me the size of the roller I will make you one & mail it to you at no cost, just let me know. I hope everything works out good for you. Mick B.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on August 12, 2015, 10:02:17 am
Hi Dave sorry to hear about your leg & op but don't give up on your boat yet. If you send me the size of the roller I will make you one & mail it to you at no cost, just let me know. I hope everything works out good for you. Mick B.

Thanks Mick for your kind words, as for the roller I have one now fitted mate but thanks for your kind offer. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 25, 2015, 06:48:35 pm
Hi all, I have now had my leg amputated and I am on the road to recovery, I am now looking at getting back into sailing my boats next year or as soon as I can.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 25, 2015, 08:09:47 pm

Welcome back Dave.

Glad to hear you're on the road to recovery.    :-))

Cheers

ken
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on September 26, 2015, 10:48:59 am
Welcome back Dave.

Glad to hear you're on the road to recovery.    :-))

Cheers

ken

Thanks Ken. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 11, 2015, 08:41:20 am
Just a quick update on how things are going, I get fitted with my new leg on the 19th of this month and then the hard work starts on how to walk again. It will be a few months working on it at the Limb Centre before I will get to bring it home......a long way to go but I'm getting there. Just have to hope I can take to it without to many problems.

Regards Dave.


Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: timbo on November 11, 2015, 10:53:57 am
Glad things are getting better mate  :-))
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: irishcarguy on November 13, 2015, 09:03:55 pm
IT is great that you are on the mend. Before we know it you will be back to sailing. You might even start playing soccer LOL, Cheers from Mick in Canada.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 14, 2015, 09:54:12 am
Thanks Guys,  :-)) :-)) now looking forward to sailing my boats again.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 26, 2015, 10:15:31 pm
Hi all, just a quick update I have had a bit of a set back which may require another operation I shall know more soon I hope.....not happy.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: timbo on November 26, 2015, 10:25:21 pm
Fingers crossed for you, hope it all goes well.👍
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 26, 2015, 10:26:53 pm
Fingers crossed for you, hope it all goes well.👍

Thanks Mate.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: Stavros on November 27, 2015, 12:47:42 pm
Well you will soon be running around the pond again....Keep your chin up m8 things can ONLY get better


Dave
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 27, 2015, 04:38:26 pm
Well you will soon be running around the pond again....Keep your chin up m8 things can ONLY get better


Dave

Thanks Dave, I will find out in a week or two if I have to go back to the operation table...were going to try a thing or two first so I hope things work out without the need for another operation.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: smudger1309 on November 28, 2015, 07:11:16 pm
hope things get better for you soon and you be able to sail your pride and joy again,  keep your head up, things will get better
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 28, 2015, 09:08:03 pm
hope things get better for you soon and you be able to sail your pride and joy again,  keep your head up, things will get better

Thanks Mate. :-)) :-))

Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 04, 2015, 09:47:28 am
A quick update, I am now walking around on my new leg but it's quite painful due to the problem I have with the bone. I am hoping things may settle down in the next week or so....I hope....but on the good side I can walk about for a very short time.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: maggie m on December 04, 2015, 01:14:56 pm
Hope you get well soon, and are able to get out and about
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: irishcarguy on December 05, 2015, 07:40:30 pm
Hi Dave sad to hear you had a set back, but keep your spirits up, we are all pulling for you. I would think all your Mates at the lake are looking forward to your return. Mick B.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on December 05, 2015, 08:04:27 pm
Hi Dave sad to hear you had a set back, but keep your spirits up, we are all pulling for you. I would think all your Mates at the lake are looking forward to your return. Mick B.

Thanks Mick, yes mate I have good mates at the lake so it will be good when I can get back into sailing along side them again. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on January 09, 2016, 10:20:06 am
Just a quick update, it has now been confirmed that I now need another operation on my leg, waiting now to see the surgeon so now this is going to set me back a few months......not to happy as things were coming on quite well but I am sure it will be ok in the end.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on May 08, 2016, 06:00:21 pm
Due to the leg problem I am thinking I might have to sell my Arun due to it's size, now what sort of price should I put on her. :(( :((

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on November 25, 2016, 04:19:26 pm
Well the Arun has not been out now for about 2 years, I have decided that once my Maltby is finished I will dust off the Arun and see what if anything needs doing in order to get it back in the water next season, it went very well (very fast) last time it was out.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on February 20, 2017, 08:02:21 pm
Once I got back from the lake yesterday I decided to get my Arun down and have a look, once the batteries were put in all worked just as it should. Not bad as it has not been run for over 2 years so it will be at the lake next time I'm out for a good run out.

Regards Dave.


Title: Re: 1/12 Arun lifeboat
Post by: mersey dave on March 16, 2017, 03:40:15 pm
Had it out again and it went as good as the last time it was out, the only problem is it's size when it comes to getting it out the house and back in again....... very hard with this false leg so I may have to think about putting it on offer for a swap. Will have to do some thinking. :((

Regards Dave.