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Title: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: Sandy on January 13, 2014, 05:51:56 PM
Hi,

Does anyone know if there are drawings available for ships built at the above two yards?

The Swann Hunter ship was built in 1902 and the Denny ship in 1947?

Any help appreciated.

All the best
Sandy
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 13, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
I believe the Denny collection is still held by the National Maritime Museum. I have three of the four volumes of the 'Denny List' by David Lyon and if you tell me which ship you are interested in I can post the details.

Colin
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: Sandy on January 13, 2014, 06:54:30 PM
Hello Colin,

Thanks in advance.

It is the unfortunate and tragic MV Princess Victoria.

And the Swann Hunter ship is also the Princess Victoria, but the CPR one.

All the best
Sandy
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 13, 2014, 07:36:41 PM
Sandy,

The Denny List records that the National Maritime museum has the following:

Princess Victoria 1946.

Lines/Rig as earlier vessel/ lower & main deck/promenade and boat deck/midsection etc.

Photos: Trials (5); Interiors (5); Engine Room (5); details (5); In dry dock (2)

The collection also has the plans of the earlier Princess Victoria built in 1939 to a similar design and mined in 1940. The later vessel appears to have been very much a repeat.

Other info on the Princess Victoria  that members my find of interest can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdmKEj8wVz0

http://www.brighthubengineering.com/marine-history/113559-the-loss-of-the-mv-princess-victoria/

Colin
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: pugwash on January 13, 2014, 11:22:11 PM
Another source for Clyde built ships is the MItchell library in Glasgow - I got some excellent builders  plans of HMS Blake about a year ago
and they were about half the price of the NMM.  I also found the staff at the \Mitchell extremely helpful.


Geoff

http://www.glasgowlife.org.uk/libraries/the-mitchell-library/archives/Pages/home.aspx
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: BarryM on January 14, 2014, 05:05:54 PM
The University of Glasgow holds some Denny archives as well as those of many other Scottish shipyards.


Barry M
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: Sandy on January 14, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
Thanks to everyone for replying.

I have had drawings from the Mitchell before and they are reasonably priced. I just can't remember them doing Denny's. Fairfields, yes, but Denny's, maybe.

I will pop in and check.

Anyone know about Swann Hunter drawings?

All the best
Sandy
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: big_bri on January 14, 2014, 07:44:44 PM
I`m almost certain the Denny archives are with either the NMM or the SS Great Britain trust Sandy.

I do know Denny drawings are generally VERY hard to come by {:-{ I`ll pop into the Denny test tank tomorrow and try and find out for you :-))
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 14, 2014, 07:56:10 PM
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I do know Denny drawings are generally VERY hard to come by

As per my previous post, the Denny drawing collection went to the National Maritime Museum in 1963 and was published by their Trustees in 1976 as compiled by David Lyon.

As far as I am aware they are still available.

Colin
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: Brian60 on January 15, 2014, 10:47:34 AM
You may also have luck at this link....

http://www.skipper.co.uk/catalogue

It is Brown Son and Ferguson. I have bought plans from them in the past- unfortunately there is no search facility (at least that I can find) I had to work through the plans list until I found the name of the ship I was looking for.
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: nemesis on January 15, 2014, 11:37:06 AM
Hi, Try the science museum at Newcastle on Tyne, Nemesis
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: big_bri on January 15, 2014, 01:29:57 PM
Sorry Colin, most, but not all the Denny drawings are with the NMM, there are a fair number of ships drawing from 1849-1957 residing at the Glasgow university archives, also a good number are in the Central Navy Museum in St Petersburg , Russia.
I found it very difficult to obtain drawings for a ship some time ago, but eventually traced them to St Petersburg :-))
Don`t ask me how they got there  %%
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: BarryM on January 15, 2014, 02:07:27 PM
http://www.gla.ac.uk/services/archives/ (http://www.gla.ac.uk/services/archives/)    is the link and I note they hold Denny plans from 1849 - 1957. Whether your ship is among them would be worth inquiring.


Barry M
Title: Re: Drawings:- Swann Hunter and Denny of Dunbarton
Post by: Sandy on January 15, 2014, 06:10:30 PM
Hi all,

I have emailed the NMM and see what they say.

All the best
Sandy