Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: troutrunner on February 07, 2014, 08:36:21 am
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Here I am studying the plans and liberating bits of ply wood from the laser cut sheets, have stuck the keel bits in place, next bit as soon as I get a better craft knife, the one I bought broke up after about an hours use. Guess I will find the best place to get tools from eventually.
The kit is from the Vintage Model Boat Company, as suggested by Martin (http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy262/rhode-island-red/A%20few%20Smilies/Thumbsup.gif) (http://s798.photobucket.com/user/rhode-island-red/media/A%20few%20Smilies/Thumbsup.gif.html)
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The bits..........
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Hope the photy's are OK
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Paul
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The VMBC kits are pretty good. You may need to watch the drawing a little. I built their 25" Wavemaster last year and I'm very happy with the result but the drawing that came with that kit was slightly out in places. The drawing for the Wavemaster was a copy of the original kit plan from 1960s-70s and the kit parts were slightly different. That said the parts are substantial and if the Patrol boat is as good as the Wavemaster I'm sure you'll be delighted with the result
Build to the marks on the timber and use the drawing as a guide. Do plenty of test fitting before you glue anything. You want to make sure the hull frames are good and solid before skinning as pulling the hull skins around can put an awful lot of strain on them.
Check out my build of the Vintage Model Boat Company, Wavemaster 25.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,40484.0.html (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,40484.0.html)
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The VMBC kits are pretty good. You may need to watch the drawing a little. I built their 25" Wavemaster last year and I'm very happy with the result but the drawing that came with that kit was slightly out in places. The drawing for the Wavemaster was a copy of the original kit plan from 1960s-70s and the kit parts were slightly different. That said the parts are substantial and if the Patrol boat is as good as the Wavemaster I'm sure you'll be delighted with the result
Build to the marks on the timber and use the drawing as a guide. Do plenty of test fitting before you glue anything. You want to make sure the hull frames are good and solid before skinning as pulling the hull skins around can put an awful lot of strain on them.
Check out my build of the Vintage Model Boat Company, Wavemaster 25.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,40484.0.html (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,40484.0.html)
You are absolutely right with the drawings being out, I have had to modify several bits, also the instructions are definitely not good enough for the total novice as I am to model boats, but I am from technical hands on background and have recovered a few problems quite easily.
The frame and removable top sections are to be strengthened here and there, I already had that in mind, but keep on with the tips please (http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy262/rhode-island-red/A%20few%20Smilies/Thumbsup.gif) (http://s798.photobucket.com/user/rhode-island-red/media/A%20few%20Smilies/Thumbsup.gif.html)
I have ave had to shorten the keel by the thickness of the Transom board to make it fit nicely.
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And have glued some blocks on for the Breast Hook to pull down to so as to make life easy.
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The rubber band trick is a good method of holding bits together and a tip for supply of these is "be nice to your Postman/lady :-)
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It might be worth making note of any required changes for the manufacturer, they always
find them useful and you never know what 'reward' they may offer in thanks!
( Keep correction notes factual, VERY simple and no opinions! )
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Hi Martin,
I have just spoken to the manufacturer to order the running gear (motor, servo, rudder etc.) and mentioned a few discrepancies, I made the comment about things not being explained in the instructions for the novice. His return comment was that they are not aimed at the novice and most folk put there own touches to these kits. I can go with what he says as I have already made minor changes to mine.
I have learned a lot so far in the corrections that I have had to do because of my lack of knowledge on the model boat subject.
This is where I am now.
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His return comment was that they are not aimed at the novice and most folk put there own touches to these kits.
A great 'get out of jail' card that!
It's true up to a point as there will inevitably be some changes between the original kit drawing and the modern laser cut kit although I am not totally convinced.
There are one or two other suppliers out there who tend to reject suggestions that maybe some improvements can be made...
Colin
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Having built one of these and I am SORRY to say this ....INFERIOR kits..........all I will say is Best of luck building it.....the Wood is SUB STANDARD to say the least........I had to REPLACE all the bottom and side pieces of ply as they were delaminating...........as far as I am concerned a third rate kit............RANT OVER
Dave
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Having built one of these and I am SORRY to say this ....INFERIOR kits..........all I will say is Best of luck building it.....the Wood is SUB STANDARD to say the least........I had to REPLACE all the bottom and side pieces of ply as they were delaminating...........as far as I am concerned a third rate kit............RANT OVER
Dave
Hi Dave,
In their defence I have just looked at the ply for the skin and it does look good quality and quite flexible. You have convinced me though, it was in mind anyway, to seal and paint the complete inside of the boat, I will do some of this before the side skins are fitted to insure that all areas are covered.
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A bit more done, the elastic bands are a great help :-))
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Lazy dog Barney :-)
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Trial fit as I have done with everything after the first little fopaux
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Just making sure of the fit before gluing.
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...and the dog's falling asleep, waiting for the glue to dry ! {-)
....know how that feels - been there O0
looking good so far Paul.
Regards,
Ray.
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Thanks Ray,
I recon I am going to start my second boat tomorrow so I have something to do while I'm waiting :-))
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What's your 2nd boat??!!
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My original plan that I bought 20 years ago, as mentioned in my "Beginners start here...!" thread was "M.F.V. EILEEN" and I have already traced the keel and sheer board, I'll start another thread, soon................ :-))
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...and the dog's falling asleep, waiting for the glue to dry ! {-)
....know how that feels - been there O0
looking good so far Paul.
Regards,
Ray.
Perhaps he is high on fumes?.
Len.
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And a bit more progress :-))
The rear deck, I put on a tab to tuck under at the back to help it stay in position and the extra bits around the under side will with a bit of luck stop it twisting or warping. Not sure if it would distort but water can have these sort of effects on ply wood and I'm not giving it the chance.
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Made the cabin roof :-)
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Again put extra into the outer edge. :-))
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Now for the Cockpit, started putting this together . I wanted to make sure it fitted from the start, so I have built it in situ, hopefully to stop the glue grabbing where it's not needed I have put some brown tape in those areas. :-))
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Bless those elastic bands.(http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy262/rhode-island-red/A%20few%20Smilies/bow_zpsf775106e.gif) (http://s798.photobucket.com/user/rhode-island-red/media/A%20few%20Smilies/bow_zpsf775106e.gif.html)
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Looking Good! :-))
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Thanks Martin :-)), I'll post some more tomorrow :-)
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More progress :-))
The cockpit was easily removed thanks to the brown tape :-)
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Pegs come in very useful for the stringers, is that what are are called ?
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Rear deck fits a treat on the little ledges that I put in :-))
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This is how she looked this morning :-)
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Stuck the ends of the 2nd Gunwale stringers, I'll pull them round later today :-))
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That's it for now................
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I have just finished making this model from the original aerokits kit.
Yours is looking very nicely built , Only trouble I really had was in fitting the windscreen
at that angle to meet up with the deck at the bow.
I do like that small saw you are using - I need to get one now!
N...
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I have just finished making this model from the original aerokits kit.
Yours is looking very nicely built , Only trouble I really had was in fitting the windscreen
at that angle to meet up with the deck at the bow.
Thanks for your comment Nordlys, how did you over come the angles please, as that's my next job.
I do like that small saw you are using - I need to get one now!
N...
I just remembered where I got it from, They call it a Razor saw (http://www.hobbytools-direct.com./acatalog/Zona_Saws.html)
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Hello Paul,
I'm struggling to resize a photo of my Patrol boat to show you the slight difference in shape
of the cabin and deck. Can you see the 2 pieces of wood around the opening where cabin sits -
this will cover any alignment issues.
By the way I planked the deck here with teak strips.
Razor saw - that's it - thank you.
N
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Hi Nordlys,
Yes I get it, they form a "V" at the back of the breast hook, is that correct ?
Certainly looks nice with the Teak deck, did you buy the teak in strips or cut it yourself ?
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Hi Paul,
Sorry, they are mahogany strips! Bought from Cornwall Model Boats.
Yes a vee shape, matching the cabin. But your deck is straight isn't it?
I did do a bit of adjusting of the cabin front to fit. Plus the 2 strips.
N.
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Hi Paul,
Sorry, they are mahogany strips! Bought from Cornwall Model Boats.
Yes a vee shape, matching the cabin. But your deck is straight isn't it?
I did do a bit of adjusting of the cabin front to fit. Plus the 2 strips.
N.
The breast hook is straight, but the cockpit/cabin front is "V" shaped pointing forward, I get your drift, we have to adapt :-))
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The latest photy's, this is where I am at, still contemplating the front windows of the cockpit and also not sure if I should leave the back of the cockpit open or not, anyone have any thoughts please :-))
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Pegs off :-))
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Clearly a large triangular 'gap' each side of the centre of window. My boat had
this part of the deck shaped into a vee so that there was no 'gap'.
Could you build in two triangular false sections here, then the cabin could sit
just into the shape and be supported all along the edges with the gap gone!?
You would need to remove the comb on front edge though to extend the deck.
I have left the cabin rear window open, as per plan
Paul, this was the trickiest bit for me too
Is there not a ply deck yet to fit all round?
N
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Clearly a large triangular 'gap' each side of the centre of window. My boat had
this part of the deck shaped into a vee so that there was no 'gap'.
Could you build in two triangular false sections here, then the cabin could sit
just into the shape and be supported all along the edges with the gap gone!?
You would need to remove the comb on front edge though to extend the deck.
I have left the cabin rear window open, as per plan
Paul, this was the trickiest bit for me too
Is there not a ply deck yet to fit all round?
N
Yes, side decks are supplied but I am thinking I like the Teak Idea and I do have some to cut up.
I'm going to reshape the edges of both window sections so they are angled to both edges and put in a centre post where they meet in the middle.
Blue is reserved for the Moderators. ken
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Paul,
Wouldn't you put the teak planking on top of the supplied deck pieces?
That's what I did. In fact it was the ply deck that came shaped as a vee
that hid the gap, so my idea of building two triangular pieces wouldn't be necessary.
But, yes a certain amount of adjusting will be required.
N..
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Paul,
Wouldn't you put the teak planking on top of the supplied deck pieces?
That's what I did. In fact it was the ply deck that came shaped as a vee
that hid the gap, so my idea of building two triangular pieces wouldn't be necessary.
But, yes a certain amount of adjusting will be required.
N..
Probably not answer below
It wasn't supplied, that front piece of deck for the "Breast Hook" to over plank it would make it un-even.
Thanks for the photy's by the way, they will give me some ideas :-))
The decks.
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The only bits left to fit but alas no front deck <:(
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I think I would make a cardboard template of the complete front shape first, then transfer to a 1/16th piece of ply.
This would then match up with the thickness of ply of the two deck pieces each side of the cabin?
Then plank the whole lot?
Just a thought......
N.
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A good thought to, but I have not any spare ply big enough.
Still thinking.................
Just noticed you are from my home County, Kent. Mum and Dad and younger brother live in Snodland and my elder brother lives in Tonbridge. I'm originally from a village just below the north downs called Kemsing :-))
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Lookin' good :-)) I like it.
Mark
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Lookin' good :-)) I like it.
Mark
Thanks Mark,
A few more bits done, but am now down to a bit of re-bate carving/shaping to fit the bottom pair of skins, time consuming job this bit. I have some knives that are for whittling wood and have found them quite useful, I'll put a photy of them up soon.
Transom finishing skin in place with pegs :-))
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Cockpit front angled sections proved a challenge, I made a fopaux on this and have corrected it with a small bit of grafting in of bits of ply.
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And I found the missing breast hook cover skin :-))
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Right, I'm back to it now, I have been sorting out a work area so as to keep things tidy and in one place :-)) Not quite finished it yet but getting there :-)
The work area.
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And todays progress, first bottom skin shaped and fitted, Right or wrong I have put plenty of glue on all joints with a small paint brush.
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Where has the time gone, I am back to continue with both of my boat projects now, sorted a few bits today, fitted the second lower hull skin and I think it best to fit the motor, rudder and some electrics next while I can still get my fat fingers in there (http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy262/rhode-island-red/A%20few%20Smilies/Thumbsup.gif) (http://s798.photobucket.com/user/rhode-island-red/media/A%20few%20Smilies/Thumbsup.gif.html)
More photy's as soon as my camera comes back home(http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy262/rhode-island-red/A%20few%20Smilies/Thumbsup.gif) (http://s798.photobucket.com/user/rhode-island-red/media/A%20few%20Smilies/Thumbsup.gif.html)
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Right, here is an update, a few bits may be missing as I have had a few internet access issues.
Where I am at now is the electrics stage, I am doing this before the sides are fitted but have made everything accessible and removable, not sure if others go about things like I do, I have made up trays and a switch bracket for the on/off switch as the pictures show, all these parts are to be unscrewed and removed for painting.
A couple of questions on the electrics, I have never done this before and am not sure about where some wires go.
1) three black wires come from the motor and three blue ones come from the speed controller, is the middle one of each a common neutral ? Also the blue wires are marked below the soldering points "C", "B" and "A" what do these mean?
2) Does the speed controller receiver lead plug in the "THRO" connection on the receiver ?
3) Does the Rudder servo lead plug into the "RUDD" connection on the receiver ?
The receiver connection options are :- BIND/DATA, THRO, AILE, ELEV, RUDD, GEAR and AUX1, the unit is a Spektrum AR610 and is designed for model aircraft.
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Please be critical of my ideas and let me know if my set up is OK or not, if you would like more photy's please just ask (http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy262/rhode-island-red/A%20few%20Smilies/Thumbsup.gif) (http://s798.photobucket.com/user/rhode-island-red/media/A%20few%20Smilies/Thumbsup.gif.html)
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A very nice build. the only thing I would suggest is to change the tamiya connectors for something a little more robust
I have standardised my battery collection with these
https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9283
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Having done a little more reading I will probably take your advice on the gold connectors, thanks essex2visuvesi
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Having done a little more reading I will probably take your advice on the gold connectors, thanks essex2visuvesi
A wise choice... I've lost count of the number of times I've seen Tamiya connectors being the root of electrical gremlins.
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Connections between the ESC and motor - its a question of trial and error. There is no 'polarity' as such. Connect them up at random, then test to see if you get the correct rotation. If not, swap over any two wires.
As for the receiver connections, it depends on where you want the throttle and steering to appear on the TX - left or right vertical or horizontal. I like both steering and throttle on the right control and use the third and fourth connectors from the left - aileron and elevator in Spektrum speak.
Barrie
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Ok, that sounds interesting Barrie, so I can plug in anything anywhere apart from the BIND/DATA connection (I know what that one does) and see what happens.
Thanks, Paul
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Found this explanation for the brushless motor connections Click here (http://diydrones.com/forum/topics/esc-to-motor-abc-and-motor)
"There are only six ways to connect the ESC to the motor: ABC, BCA, CAB, ACB, CBA, and BAC. The first three ways will make the motor spin one direction, and the other three will make it spin the opposite direction. So, you have a 50-50 chance of randomly connecting the ESC to the motor and having it spin correctly.
If the motor does not spin in the correct direction, then reversing any two wires from the ESC to the motor, such as A-C-B, will reverse the direction. This applies to industrial AC motors as well, and it does not matter which two wires you reverse."
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Found this explanation for the brushless motor connections Click here (http://diydrones.com/forum/topics/esc-to-motor-abc-and-motor)
"There are only six ways to connect the ESC to the motor: ABC, BCA, CAB, ACB, CBA, and BAC. The first three ways will make the motor spin one direction, and the other three will make it spin the opposite direction. So, you have a 50-50 chance of randomly connecting the ESC to the motor and having it spin correctly.
If the motor does not spin in the correct direction, then reversing any two wires from the ESC to the motor, such as A-C-B, will reverse the direction. This applies to industrial AC motors as well, and it does not matter which two wires you reverse."
Exactly, HOWEVER if the motor is brushless and sensored (these type of motors will have an extra connector lead with 5 wires) the these must be wired in the correct sequence.
I dont think as yet many people use these in model boats.
An example
(http://www.rcxmodels.com/brushless-combos/sensored-brushless-17.5t-kit/17.5t-sensored-brushless-motor-combo-sensore-cable.jpg)
Mostly sensored types are found in the 500-600 size motor class and are used in 1:10 & 1:8 scale cars
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Ok, that sounds interesting Barrie, so I can plug in anything anywhere apart from the BIND/DATA connection (I know what that one does) and see what happens.
Thanks, Paul
Paul
The easy way to sort out the receiver connections is to take the servo connector and plug it into one of the Rx sockets. Switch on the Tx and Rx and see which stick operates it. It is usual to have steering on an horizontal action, and throttle on a vertical one, but its not essential. By moving the servo across all the sockets you will find out what each Tx stick does and can decide where to put the steering and throttle.
Which Spektrum Tx have you got?
Barrie
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Hi Barrie,
It's a DX5e, it's what the supplier of the kit suggested when I spoke to him, he is not far from me and is in the Boston Model Boat Club which is probably the nearest active club to me, unless Grantham have fixed their water leaks.
Your suggestion sounds a positive move forward as I have not a clue and am very aware that I don't want to bu**er anything up, very new stuff to me, in fact it's a first.
Thanks for your help, it's much appreciated, Paul