Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Yachts and Sail => Topic started by: qwerty2008 on March 20, 2014, 01:33:27 am
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This will be a build log for my (getting mooned by this{ ;D } smiley is really kinda distracting) radio controlled Byzantium which is a custom (realizes that I misspelled custom in my other logs on other forums, goes back to corrected them) model based on the Pride of Baltimore. Sofar I have made the hull from wood and fiberglass, made the mast and am currently making the smaller bits and pieces until I get the servos that I need to make it sail.
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Nice :-)) :-)) :-))
That is going to look imposing when the sails are rigged
Ned
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Loks good. Without a reference in the pic, how long is she?
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The hull is abought 4.5 feet long rigged it is close to 7 feet long.
Lextin.
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I have ordered the remaining servos for the Byzantium and have been working on small stuff here and there. These pictures that I am posting are not in order and do not represent an update so much as just showing miscellaneous details. As posting conditions on this forum are less then ideal I will most likely not update this tread very often so if you want the full log look this build up on MSW or RC groups.
Here is the keel bulb.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/105_1422.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/105_1422.jpg.html)
A pinrail with the cannon in the background.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/105_1047.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/105_1047.jpg.html)
A recent-ish full profile.
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A drawing of what it should look like when it is finished.
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The weeping angle figurehead.
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and a view looking forward showing the riding bits, the windlass and the cannon.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/105_1143.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/105_1143.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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My servos arrived today so I will be working on the rigging inside the hull.
I just found out that the 4 security questions for each post was just for the first 5 post. The photo uploader is still giving me problems so I will start using Photo Bucket again.
Lextin.
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I finally decided on a time period and profession for my Byzantium. It will be an American privateer circa. 1795-1812. I have made some temporary (paper) 15 star american flags as well as a wishbone style martingale boom.
Abought the servos, I have been staring at the model with the deck off for hours at a time the past couple of days and know what I want to do but not the specifics like where the fairleads should come up trough the deck to line up with the pin rails and how to make a 3 inch arm for the rudder servo and how long the arms for the fore sail/jib sheets should be. I guess its safe to say that many more hours of staring at the model are needed.
Lextin
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... Abought the servos, I have been staring at the model with the deck off for hours at a time the past couple of days and know what I want to do but not the specifics like where the fairleads should come up trough the deck to line up with the pin rails and how to make a 3 inch arm for the rudder servo and how long the arms for the fore sail/jib sheets should be. I guess its safe to say that many more hours of staring at the model are needed.
Lextin
With regard to the winching, I may be able to head you down the right path....
You may find it of value to work backwards from the sails and the booms / yards.
Let's consider just a single fore and aft sail such as the mainsail... (as shown in your picture "recent full profile")
First step would be to work out the angle you want the booms to move through from sheeted out to close hauled.
Next step would be to nominate a sheeting point and determine how far this is from the mast. You would also need to take into consideration the deck layout so you do not finish up with a fairlead in the middle of a hatch or such.
With the angle and the distance from the mast, you can now determine how much sheet travel you need.
Once you know the sheet travel, you can then work out the winching method. You will also need to have a servo with sufficient torque to handle the load.
You mention a sail winch servo with a three inch arm - this may be a problem below decks just to find room to swing it. It may also require a pretty strong servo. To reduce arm length, you may be able to use double haul - this would give twice the travel but half the torque.
One alternative may be a drum winch - while these are slower, they can transport far more line.
Here is a cheap example of a 6 turn winch that would give you about 250 mm of sheet travel: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__20855___SW4805_6PA_Sailwinch_Servo_6_13kg_45g_0_70.html
I notice in the sketch that there are also square sails and foresails. I would suggest you will likely need separate winches for the square sails and the fore-and-aft sails. I assume you would use braces to the yards of the square sails to swing them (with the braces running up the after mast first). Another way some have used was to fix the braces to the mast and rotate the entire mast, but this is not my preferred option. The foresails could perhaps be self tacking and may not need a winch, although they have a lot of effect on manoeuvrability as they are so far forward from the centre of the boat.
A vessel such as this is probably steered more by sails than by the rudder (even a very over-scale rudder) so getting good control of the sails remotely will help with manoeuvrability on the water.
While it may not seem immediately relevant to what you are building, you may find some inspiration regarding your winching from these videos of my "Recycle Challenge" square rigger, "Jive". It is approximately the same size as "Byzantium" and uses 3 standard servo double haul winches - one for the square sails on the foremast (and also the flying jibs), a second winch for the square sails on the main and mizzen masts, and a third winch for the spanker...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZGjFR5CYUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTj-aqYUX9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7En4_8V24Xs
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mrpenguin: Thank you for the advice but I have already worked out most of the sheeting issues but am getting stuck on the small stuff. The 3 inch arm I mentioned in my last post is for the rudder and there is ample room under the stern hatch for it to swing. The foresail/jib servo will be rigged as per Jerry's method and the mainsail is rigged to an open system winch servo with a pulley on a track to double the pull though I may remove the pulley later. I rigged the mainsail months ago and have been working on the squares today. I mounted the square servo on a slide to take up the slack in the lines when the sails are rotated and now have a pretty good idea of how I will run the fairleads which I will try to make tomorrow as well as making the rudder servo mount. I also made the arm for the rudder servo which was surprisingly easy to make though I was unable to take a picture of it because my cameras battery died
I have attached a non scale diagram showing my servos and where they will be mounted.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/Byzantiumservolayout.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/Byzantiumservolayout.jpg.html)
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Lextin.
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Oops, my apologies.... :embarrassed:
I remember that thread with the clever idea of sliding winches, thought it was a different build!
This ship is looking good, keep at it....
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The sliding winch was a different build, I will have to blame Jerry and his Pride of Baltimore build for that idea too.
Lextin.
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I have made the fairleads for the squares and currently have the dry fitted so that I could test the sail rotation. I made two fairleads instead of the before mentioned four to prevent a possible problem below deck, the braces will now split above deck with the split disguised as a block.
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Here is the arm I made for the rudder servo.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/105_1453.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/105_1453.jpg.html)
This picture shows the mainsail fairlead and one of the rudder fairleads.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/105_1456.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/105_1456.jpg.html)
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Looking good!
Prototyping in this fashion can sure save some grief further on in the build.....
I just found the dimensions in an earlier post; this is a BIG model - I thought she was much smaller. ("The hull is about 4.5 feet long; rigged it is close to 7 feet long")
Even at this early stage, it might be prudent to give consider to how you will be transporting and launching her and looking at how you might do the pond side rigging / derigging.
One other thing with this bigger size that would not have been an issue on a smaller vessel - the sliding winch..... is it possible that the sail load may slide the winch when you do not want it to? It will need a heavy spring to hold it I reckon...
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"One other thing with this bigger size that would not have been an issue on a smaller vessel - the sliding winch..... is it possible that the sail load may slide the winch when you do not want it to? It will need a heavy spring to hold it I reckon"
Since square sails are fairly balanced the forces on the servo are minimal and shouldn't be much of a problem.
Since my last post I have epoxied the square fairleads in place and made the mount for the rudder servo, there is only one more servo to install and its the most complex one.
I was playing around with my radio and found out that the side to side sticks allow for more travel on the servos then the up and down sticks so I was able to coax another revolution out of my mainsail winch by linking it to the left side to side stick and no longer need the pulley that doubles the pull. Here is my new stick layout which makes best use of this quirk.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/sticklayout.png)
Lextin. (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/sticklayout.png.html)
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my photos seem to have broken due to me organizing my photobucket so I will post them again. sorry they are out of order but I don't want to figure out where they go. Dont worry this thread will eventually become more coherent.
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(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/Byzantiumservolayout.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/Byzantiumservolayout.jpg.html)
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Lextin.
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I have mounted the rudder servo and the foresail servo.
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[/size]I will rewrought the main sail line (blue) trough some eyebolts (red) to keep it from interfering with the rudder servo.[/color]
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[/size]Lextin.[/color]
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Another method for controlling that main sail line and avoiding potential tangles might be to extend that brass tube through the swing area of the rudder servo. You could shape the tube to keep it out of the way but still maintain a more or less straight line. I have used this technique in a couple of places and it worked out well for me.
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mrpenguin: I have already installed the eyebolts which actually serve duel purposes because they keep the line to the side of the battery hatch but I will keep your idea in mind in case the problem persist.
Lextin.
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I decided that my original rudder was kinda ugly so I made a new one and this time out of wood. The rudder will have a clear plastic insert to make it larger but I still need to cut the groove that it will fit into. I was halfway though cutting the rudder when my bandsaw started making a ting.... ting.... ting.... ting sound so I stopped cutting and was trying to locate the problem when I heard a snap and felt something hit my shoulder, I instantly knew that I was in for a long session of hand sawing but I did get the rudder finished. Now the bandsaw is temporarily out of commission until I get a new blade.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1481.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1481.jpg.html)
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Lextin.
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The armament of lack there of has been bugging me so I want to add a pivot gun amidships but cant seem to find any useful information around the interwebs so I am asking for help. I was think of a 18 pounder with a compact carriage that rotates around its center rather then one end would this be an unrealistic setup? also what are the dimensions of a 18 pounder barrel? also pics or drawings of a simaler gun would be helpful. Thank you.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/pivotgun.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/pivotgun.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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Hundreds of images & references to 18 LB naval cannons here...... %) ........Derek
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=18+pounder+naval+cannon&biw=1920&bih=963&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=s04WVIuHJcSSuATM14KoDg&ved=0CEoQsAQ
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After looking at Derek's link,
I think anything that looks right
will be right. 8)
Ned
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%) .....I found this example of an 18 pounder with 13 degrees elevation & 12 degrees depression a good example.......................Derek
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Thank you all for all the help I did find what I needed and have turned a barrel. I wasn't thinking that it would be so big and am starting to question my decision to add it, I will make the carriage then decide if I want to keep it or possibly use a 12 pounder or a carronnade instead.
Here are some pictures showing the size compared to my 6 pounder.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1484.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1484.jpg.html)
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Lextin.
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Lextin...all of your structural work in 5 ply appears to be very sound :-)) ... do you use a router to notch the frames prior to gluing & screwing?....& what type of glue are you using where the frames meet the hull planking?..........Derek
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Derek: I cut all the notches by hand with a Japanese saw and a chisel and glued them with normal wood glue as they will be sealed with thinned resin before being epoxied into the hull. Number 2 will be screwed in as well as being epoxied because it is pulling on each side of the hull and contains the step for the bowsprit.
Lextin.
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I wasn't quite happy with the shape of the barrel so I put it back on the drillpress and turned it again but forgot to seal it with wax before I started painting it and ended up getting an interesting Damascus steel look that I hated to get rid of but had to :( . I also made the sides of the carriage, I cut the profile into a 3/4 inch thick piece of cherry then sliced it lengthwise into 1/4 inch thick pieces which was a hard task because the band saw is out of commission :( .
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Lextin.
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I have done a bit more work on the carriage and have decided to make notches in the axletrees that will fit over the rails which will be abought 6 inches long (10 feet in scale) and will rotate on center when all is said and done the barrel should sit at just abought the right height to shoot over the railing when leveled. I may remove the hammock cranes to allow for greater rotation of the gun.
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Lextin.
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I made a SketchUp model of the carriage and am wanting to know if it is passable for a late 1700s pivot gun carriage? before I start to build it. I am also wondering how to make the circular track that it will ride on?.(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/pivotguncarriage.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/pivotguncarriage.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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Hundreds of circle cutters on e-bay..............
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=circle+cutters&biw=1920&bih=963&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=CqQkVL7aJNfd8AWG4IGoBw&ved=0CEUQsAQ
Derek
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I made the slide and hit it with a few coats of paint which was a real pain as my can of oxide red was empty and the only other can of oxide red I had was a different brand and clogged so I pulled a nozzle of a different can that was clogged too so I unclogged it and then found that this new paint goes on thinner then the last so I needed more coats to get even coverage, and then after all the trouble I went trough to paint it, it now makes my 6 pounder look a little crummy :P .
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Lextin.
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Abought the circular track, am I correct in assuming that the top of the track needs to stay level and not curve with the deck?
Lextin.
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About the circular track, am I correct in assuming that the top of the track needs to stay level and not curve with the deck?
Lextin.
Lextin,
I have no idea of the correct answer to this, but if it were me building a track on the deck of a real vessel I would make the track level with or even inset into the deck, making one thing less to fall over and also to keep the surrounding deck area useable for other purposes when the cannon is in the stowed position. Elevation of the cannon will vary anyway with the roll of the vessel and the distance away that the target is....
Does that help?
Also thinking the original swivel point for such a weapon must have been very strong as there is no provision to absorb recoil as far as I can tell....
Firing the weapon would certainly put some pressure on that point ......?
Had a bit of a Google and most swivelling cannons seem to be a bit like a Lantaka, swivelling in a fork on a post
Most swivel guns seem to be breech loaders I think...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lantaka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swivel_gun
There is some mention of heavier weapons being mounted on a carriage as yours is....
:-)
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;) ...Lextin......these cannons are a little before my time with warships & gunmounts ;D ....but would suggest the logic from Phill is on the best path for a straight/flat mounting ring
.... >>:-( but not so sure about no recoil............Derek
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Penguin: I think that you are confusing the pivot gun with a swivel gun. A swivel gun is a smaller cannon usually around 1 inch bore and typically mounted on the rail. A pivot gun is a much larger cannon in my case a 18 pounder (5 inch bore) with the recoil being absorbed along a sliding carriage. My model will have both types of cannon as well as some 6 pound (3.5 inch bore) broadside guns.
I did get an answer to my question on another site and will be making the top of the track flat and not follow the deck chamber.
Lextin.
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Ah, of course ! The gun slides on the carriage! Light bulb moment here for me...
;-)
Thanks Lextin
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I did some more work on the keel then took some pictures of the model.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1534.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1534.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1536.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1536.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1539.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1539.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1541.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1541.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1555.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1555.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1546.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1546.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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Well I was at the hardware store today and picked up the springs for the sliding servo aswell as a variety of brass screws to keep on hand in case I need them later and to replace the steel ones holding the aluminium plate that the rudder hinges on.
Lextin.
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I have some more complaining to do about the posting conditions on this site >>:-( . Whenever I post via copy past I get a bunch of text formatting that I have to go back into edit mode to remove and if I miss it the site wont let me edit it later grrr but enough of that I will still be maintaining a log on this site I will just have to remember to write it here first then copy past it to other sites.
Lextin.
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I haven't got much work done on the Byzantium but I have made up a set of paper sail templates to test the positions of all the fairleads and to see how much servo pull each sail will need. My original calculations were based on the size of the sail and did not factor in the overlap so they were way off, the new servo pull requirements are out of reach what I mean by this is that both the fore sail and the outer jib will require a minimum of 18 inches servo pull and my current setup will only allow for 12 inches. I am wondering if anyone here can shed some light on how to fix this issue? the only options I can think of would be to drastically reduce the size of the sails or to triple the pull of the servo but that would put allot of strain on the servo which will control all three of the jibs as well as the fore sail.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1611.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1611.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1614.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1614.jpg.html)
The pencils in this picture are pointing at the fairlead locations
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1615.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/105_1615.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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Sorry about the rather lengthy hiatus from this build, I had become burnt out from trying to figure out the rigging also I lacked funds to purchase the necessary materials so I decided to take a short break. One thing led to another and my "short break" turned into a long break. I am back now and excited to get back to work on the Byzantium.
I have obtained some money and am thinking of getting the supplex for the sails aswell as the fabric glue and brass tube for the fairleads. I have been monitoring Rockywoods.com (http://www.rockywoods.com/Fabrics-Kits/Supplex-Nylon-Fabric/SUPPLEX-Water-Repellent-Nylon-Fabrics) and they always seem to be out of white supplex so I was wondering if slate grey or wrought iron would work?
Lextin.
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@Lextin:
Did you have any joy working out the rigging in the end?
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mrpenguin:I still haven't figured out all the rigging yet but I am getting closer. I did however do away with the triple arm system fore the fore sail and head sails.
Lextin.
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I got the brass tube I needed and made the rest of the fairleads. The only thing remaining before I can permanently install the deck is to add several small eye screws, which I an out of meaning another trip to the hardware store is in order.
Lextin.
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I am now finished below decks so maybe I can break out the resin this weekend and get the deck sealed in place.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0162.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0162.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0163.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0163.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0165.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0165.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0152.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0152.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0153.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0153.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0154.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0154.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0167.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0167.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0169.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0169.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0172.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0172.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0173.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0173.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0174.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0174.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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The weather was nice today so I started sealing the deck. I didn't get to far though because I ran out of fiberglass resin hardener after the first batch so I'll have to get some more before I can continue, as of now I have the servo tray mounts and half of the deck beams coated with resin.
The fabric samples for the sailcloth didn't arrive today so maybe Monday.
Lextin.
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Yesterday I got some more hardener and applied resin to the rest of the deck beams as well as the bottom of the deck. Since the resin is applied so thin and it is really cold outside it may take awhile to fully cure.
The Supplex and Taslan fabric samples arrived today. There is not much difference between the two fabrics so I will be getting the Taslan.
Lextin.
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I received the sailcloth a few days ago. It is two yards of white taslan nylon.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0216.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0216.jpg.html)
I wanted to make a sail for my Byzantium but I am lacking the confidence that my sail templates are correct so I decided to make the flag instead.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0229.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0229.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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I have got up the courage to make the first sail. Still hesitant that I could make it I chose to make the smallest sail first and this is how it turned out.
The template.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0248.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0248.jpg.html)
and the finished sail temporarily hung on its yard.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0245.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0245.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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@qwerty2008:
Nice work Lextin!
That looks like a lot of time in stitching, you will be sick of it by the time you have finished.
I don't know the exact process you are using, but if it is any help, there is some thin 6mm wide double sided tape available that is used for model sailmaking that could perhaps be used to advantage with these sails. I imagine there would be a supplier somewhere near you in California, I only know of Australian suppliers. For each side of the sail, you could turn over the flap and tape it to the sail and it would then be firmly held in place while you do the stitching and you would not be reliant in the stitching alone for the strength of the sail. With the few square sails that I made, I found it really difficult to get the stitching to sit right and to look anything like it was supposed to... But when it comes to sewing I am hopeless anyway!
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Nope no stitching here, I used a washable fabric glue called Fabric Fusion to hold everything together. The only stitching is for the bolt rope which is not hard but is rather tedious. If I had to do allot of stitching on the sail itself I would have used a machine to sew it as I have access to two, my 1918 singer treadle powered machine and my sisters modern sewing machine both work great but the singer needs a new belt because its a bit annoying to turn the flywheel by hand.
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@ Lextin:
No worries, you have done a great job on the bolt rope, it looks really good.
There is a technique shown somewhere about laying your thread in the weave of the bolt rope. I could never get it to happen, probably used wrong material for the bolt rope I think.
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I made the topsail today, it still needs the bolt rope to be sewn on but other than that its done. The cloths are 2 feet wide in scale, I don't know if this is correct but I figure that narrower cloths would be easier to replace after a battle.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0253.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/104_0253.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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Here is a short video I made of the sails hung on the model and somewhat hooked up to the controls. sorry I don.t know how to embed videos yet on this site.
http://youtu.be/6srKYRfm6_o (http://youtu.be/6srKYRfm6_o)
Lextin.
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Since my last post I have made the bolt rope for the topsail and done some research on sail making I found out that my cloths which I originally thought to be to narrow at 24 inches wide were actually to wide, they are supposed to be 20 inches wide facepalm moment. Well I am not going to remake the sails so they will have to stay the way they are. I will be making the foresail next.
I am thinking of making a removable extended sailplan and wondering what sails it would realistically include, Ringtail and stuns'ls are a given but what about a flying jib and a bentinck bent from the fore jackyard?
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I made up the template for the foresail and hung it on the model. I will start making the sail tomorow if all goes well.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0116.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0116.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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I made the foresail.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0123.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0123.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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I have gotten tired of making sails so I decided to do a little work on the spars. I first made the mast cheeks supporting the trestle trees then I put some color on the fore mast, I also finished (somewhat) the topmast(s) and the fore gaff. I feel that this little bit of work has made the model look dramatically more complete.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0224.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0224.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0226.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0226.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0228.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0228.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0233.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0233.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0230.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0230.jpg.html)
This is a mockup of an idea I have for the battery hatch cover.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0235.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0235.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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@Lextin:
Looking nice, you have done some really beautiful work there.
Re the hatch - I get the impression this is a cover that slides in tracks? Depending on the design, it may be prudent to taper the tracks together a little as it slides into the sealed position. This will mean the slide is less likely to stick if the timber swells or moves at all.....
Don't think this applies with your design, but if the hatch is sliding in from aft to fore, then the aft end probably needs to be a little above deck level to reduce the chance of water entering from astern.
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mrpenguin: The hatch will lift straight up for removal though there will be a smaller (non-functioning) gangway hatch on it that will run on a track.
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Hi qwerty
looking very good so far. :-))
Just a suggestion. You might want to redesign the hatch to avoid water ingress.
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tigertiger: I understand where your coming from but I was staring at the hatch for a long time last night and came to the realization that for appearance sake I would need to make an invisible or flush hatch than add a much smaller gangway to the top of it. In the end the hatch will probably be made water tight by adding a small bead of grease between the hatch cover and the frame of the opening. Also I cant add anything to the inside of the opening as the battery barley fits trough as it is, poor design I know but at the time I made it I had no idea what I was doing infact I still don't :) .
Lextin.
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I have done some work on the bowsprit. Now it is actually tapered and the cap is now perpendicular to the waterline instead of the bowsprit.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0242_1.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0242_1.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0238_1.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0238_1.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0237_1.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0237_1.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0236_1.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0236_1.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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..... Also I cant add anything to the inside of the opening as the battery barely fits through as it is, poor design I know but at the time I made it I had no idea what I was doing infact I still don't :) .
Lextin.
Lextin, is a smaller battery a possibility? Depending on the requirements, some of the LiFe ones are physically very small but quite adequate for many RC sailboats.
As an example, I use these for a number of my boats, they are small, light and plenty of capacity. Weight 40 grams, 53 x 30 x 13 mm. They need a suitable charger though.... They will run a 1 metre boat for six hours with plenty of capacity to spare.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__14075__ZIPPY_Flightmax_700mAh_6_6V_5C_LiFePo4_Receiver_Pack.html
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mrpenguin: My current battery is a 6 volt 7 amp hour sealed lead acid, that I bought upon recommendation from a member over at RC Groups because my previous battery couldn't keep up with one of my servos let alone all four. It is not financially feasible for me to get a new battery and charger right now but I will keep it in mind, if they don't keep up I'm pretty sure my system allows for multiple batteries. One more thing I am a little wary of hobby king as the last time I bought something from them my credit card number got stolen and someone tried to buy 700 dollars worth of world cup tickets, luckily my bank flagged the transaction and it didn't go trough. I will still try to keep the hatch its current size as the SLA is what I have now and it may stay that way.
Lextin.
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I finished the jib boom.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0248.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0248.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0257.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0257.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0246.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0246.jpg.html)
My cat interrupted my pictures to eat a string that just happened to be attached to my model.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0250.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0250.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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I got the gammoning made, I used a technique (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=27743627&postcount=259) that I found on another forum to allow the bowsprit to be removed. I have also started on a new spritsail yard, in the picture the yard is really long due to me not being sure about how long to make it. I will cut the yard shorter later after staring at it for a great long time to figure out how long to make it.
I am running into a bit of a problem which is that if I keep up at this rate I will soon run out of spars and be forced into making sails again :( . The figurehead was put in place for these pictures as I actually forgot about it for awhile and it needed some screen time.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0268.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0268.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0272.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0272.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0263.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0263.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0259.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0259.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0265.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0265.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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Today I made both the hatches aswell as the gangway. I have been thinking about forgoing the spritsail yard in favor of two separate spreaders.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0291.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0291.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0290.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0290.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0301.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0301.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0298.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0298.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0295.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0295.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0279.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0279.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0281.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0281.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0277.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0277.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0273.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0273.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0274.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0274.jpg.html)
I got a new can of red paint but they didn't have the same shade so I went a little brighter (it looks pink but that's just my camera being weird) and think that I like it a little bit more than the old color and will be repainting the rest of the fittings and the inside of the wales the new red latter.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0284.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0284.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0286.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0286.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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I made the thingamajigs that will hold the spreaders for the guy pendants in place.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0304.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0304.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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Don't worry I an not taking another of my patented modeling hiatuses, I have just been kinda busy the past few days. I have however made a new barrel for the six pounder cannons and made a mold from it but am not quite happy with how it turned out. This time the mold conforms perfectly to the master but is really fragile and not suitible to cast the ten resin barrels from so I will make a new one the same way but with thicker walls this time, to make it stronger. Lastly I have made the template for the main sail so hopefully I will get to making that soon.
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I made the new mold and it came out much better then the last one and infinitely better then the first one. It took me three tries to get the new barrel right but in the end it was worth it. Here are the photos, the small yellow one next to the barrel is the new one, the red one is the second one and the white is the first. I have also included pics of the sail template and the guy spreaders.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0337.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0337.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0338.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0338.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0340.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0340.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0345.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0345.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0356.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0356.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0353.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0353.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0348.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0348.jpg.html)
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I have started on the mainsail but took a break to work on the main pinrail and belfry I also decided to replace the barrel on the 18 pounder with one that I think is much nicer, who liked the old one anyways.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0380.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0380.jpg.html)
Here is a paper mockup I made for the belfry and the ships mascot, a small seal which I still haven't named and am looking for suggestions.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0377.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0377.jpg.html)
The new barrel ok2 .
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0376.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0376.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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I started on the belfry and promptly got distracted by another component, the mast hoops and found an alternate method of making them. Instead of using hoops I am thinking of making a loop and parrel setup that would allow me to detach the sails with the use of a lobster clasp on one end of the loop.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0384.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0384.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0386.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0386.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0390.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0390.jpg.html)
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.... a small seal which I still haven't named and am looking for suggestions.
....Lextin.
Seals are usually called "Sammy" I guess???
But surely this one needs a "proper" name with a sustainable back story.....
Using the name of the ship, "Byzantium" was later Constantinople and is nowadays Istanbul, a port on the Black Sea. According to our friend Google, the seals in this area are "Monk" seals (and they are also black, so the seal may need a paint job....)
There is also a 2012 movie called "Byzantium", one of the main characters is a woman called "Clara"... Reading the plot, it is indeed a black story......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantium_(film)
I propose the seal should be named "Clara"!!!!
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mrpenguin: I am afraid if I named the seal Clara it would take on a different back story as The name Byzantium was meant as more of a Doctor Who reference than a reference to the city, the weeping angel figurehead serves to reinforce this connection as the Byzantium on Doctor Who was transporting a weeping angel. Later in the series the Doctor had a companion named Clara Oswald (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Oswald). Clara is initially presented to the audience during the first half of the seventh series as three distinct, though similarly named, people living in different eras of time. The first two incarnations, Oswin Oswald and Clara Oswin Oswald, die during the episode in which they appear. The third incarnation becomes the Doctor's companion, travelling with him for the remainder of the series as he tries to uncover the mystery of her multiple lives.
I have completed the main structure of the belfry and the pinrails associated with it, I still need to finish the details and paint. The bell is a tad small (approx 10 scale inches)so I will make a new one sometime later on down the road.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0393.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0393.jpg.html)
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I painted the belfry and made a bell from wax to use as a plug for making a mold. I made two bells but one came out better than the other so I will be using the worse one to test a mold making method before using the good one.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0394.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0394.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0402.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0402.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0401.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0401.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0404.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0404.jpg.html)
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Just to make sure I don't work in any particular order I decided to make the cannon carriage sides today.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0408.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0408.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0407.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0407.jpg.html)
I have also made the test mold for the bell and the casting came out really nice except the lead didn't fill the mold properly and left an air pocket also the core was slightly off center so registration bumps and vents will be a must for the real one.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0411.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0411.jpg.html)
In other news, between the different groups I asked for seal names on I am considering either Clara or Rose, both can be identified with the name of the vessel as their both character from Doctor Who and I named the Byzantium after a ship from Doctor Who.
The Insert plate for my Band saw broke so I made a new one out of wood, this new one has a much smaller clearance making it easier to cut small parts.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0415.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0415.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0417.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0417.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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This morning I have been working on the carriages and have assembled three. The axles and transoms were made the same way as the sides. I am slowly refining the process and should have it down by the time I make the last one.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0420.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0420.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0421.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0421.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0432.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0432.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0422.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0422.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0426.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0426.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0430.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0430.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0439.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0439.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0433.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0433.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0436.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0436.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0441.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0441.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0442.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0442.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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I like the diy drum sander set up :-))
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I decided to go with a wood bell after all, my first bell was made from poplar and was very "fuzzy" giving it a very non-metallic appearance, this new bell is made from cherry and came out with a very shiny surface (kinda hard to tell in the pictures) that when painted gold looks like bronze for some reason.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0446.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0446.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0444.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0444.jpg.html)
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I have made the main hatch and the new skylight.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0453.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0453.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0455.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0455.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0457.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0457.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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I have been slowly chipping away at the Byzantium and have got the deck glued down and finally permanently installed the keel bolt tubes. I have also done some work on the bowsprit and other misc. details as well as making a new stand from a leftover piece of the build board and the keel bolts.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0499.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0499.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0508.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0508.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0504.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0504.jpg.html)
The track for the 18 pounder and the main hatch are glued down in anticipation of sealing the deck with resin.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0511.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0511.jpg.html)
Here is the new stand.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0510.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0510.jpg.html)
The bowsprit flagpole.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0490.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0490.jpg.html)
Lashings for the jib boom.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0466.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0466.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0471.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0471.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0476.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0476.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0474.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0474.jpg.html)
Lashings for the bowsprit.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0488.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0488.jpg.html)
And the set screw to hold the jib boom in place.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0484.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0484.jpg.html)
Some battle damage (they have since been fixed).
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0497.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0497.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0496.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0496.jpg.html)
PS. I have applied at a local collage and if accepted I will start this fall.
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I have a question about deck hatches, in the attached photo I have arrows pointing at the locations of several hatches and was wondering what the function of these hatches would be? also how would they be covered, grating, trapdoor, plank things like the main hatch...?
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/hatch%20locations.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/hatch%20locations.jpg.html)
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I would guess that the front one is the chain locker, for the anchor chains, seeing as it is placed directly abaft the windlass.
Looking at photos of the Pride of Baltimore (actual ship and models)
The rear appears to be the location for the wheel housing for the steering gear, and not a hatch.
The centre appear to be lockers sitting on the deck, but stand to be corrected.
Without a view of your plans, it is hard to tell exactly what area abaft the main mast you are pointing out.
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tigertiger: I don't actually have plans, when I said that it was based on the Pride Of Baltimore I meant it in the loosest degree possible as I started out with just a set of lines for the prides hull and went from there. The aft hatch I have found out to be an access hatch to a storage compartment, the one just aft the mainmast on the Pride was access to the engine but as there were no internal combustion engines circa 1800 I was looking for a period function. The forward hatch seems to be different ship to ship some having a small companionway while others have a grating or trapdoor, as I don't see a need to have a companionway here I will probably go with the grating. If the forward hatch is access to the cable tier why is it forward the riding bits? do they run the anchor cable to the bits then back forward to the hatch?. Back to the larger center hatch, as Privateer vessels had large crews maybe it would be best for me to make it a ladder hatch for the bulk of the crew so they don't all have to squeeze through the one companionway.
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I have been hard at work on the model today I made the stovepipe (last night) and now that I have the hatch thing sorted out I have been making the remaining hatch combings (one left). The beakhead grating was made out of some plastic from the window blinds at my last house which I drilled holes in then pressed a small file through them to make them square, the companionway grating was made the same way. The stove pipe was made from some spent shells and an old bolt, the top rotates freely due to a mechanism that involves the groove at the base of the shell and some well positioned dents.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0542.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0542.jpg.html)
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(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0537.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0537.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0515.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0515.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0523.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0523.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0533.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0533.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0530.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0530.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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I have sealed the deck once and for all with a layer of thinned resin. the model is currently sitting in the sun while the resin cures. It took two weeks for the resin to cure last time so this time I used double the amount of hardener and the weather is a lot warmer so hopefully it will be dry by tonight.
Lextin.
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Lextin,
I know little of resin but I found it really important to get the ratio of resin to hardener accurate. The temperature is also critical. I used some West System products, there are a range of hardeners with different cure times. Mix first and then thin it with a recommended thinner.
Like you I have waited days for something to cure due to using wrong product or wrong ratio.
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mrpenguin: In my understanding the amount of hardener used depends largely upon how thick you are applying the resin, as a thinner layer will produce less heat (which is needed to cure) and a thicker layer will produce more. I used resin thinned from a honey like consistency to a milk like consistency to make it spread is thin as possible and soak into the paper deck so I used more hardener and sure enough it was dry before dark. The time I said it took two weeks to cure I had used the amount of hardener suggested on the label and it was the middle of winter these two things combined I believe caused the delayed curing.
About adding the thinner after mixing the hardener, this had never even occurred to me but I will keep it in mind for next time.
Lextin.
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I have got the deck painted and started making the scuppers which have been lined with brass tube harvested from spent .22 cal. shells.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0561.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0561.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0559.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0559.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0563.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0563.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0557.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0557.jpg.html)
Lextin.
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I have got back to work on the Byzantium and have made the rest of the gratings aswell as the binnacle. The pumps were made last week but forgot to post about them and this time I forgot to take pictures of them but you can see one in one of the other pictures. The compass was made from a .45 cal. shell and a .38 cal. shell, the lamp from a .25 cal. shell and the chimney from a .22 cal shell. I still need to paint the binnacle but other then that it is finished.
I have also changed the ladder hatch to only have one ladder and a grating over the other side.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0689.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0689.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0691.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0691.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0693.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0693.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0695.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0695.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0692.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0692.jpg.html)
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I haven't got much work done on the Byzantium the past couple of weeks due to working on the sloop Mediator. After planking half of the Mediator I am getting kinda tired of planking so I decided to switch back to the Byzantium and start coppering, well sorta. I made a plate press and started work making the plates last night, sofar I have made and installed over 200 plates completing the starboard side of the hull.
The progress as of this morning.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0910.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0910.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0919.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0919.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0925.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0925.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0929.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0929.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0930.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0930.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0934.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0934.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0937.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0937.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0942.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0942.jpg.html)
I also have painted the binnacle.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0725.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_0725.jpg.html)
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I haven't been working on the Byzantium much lately, life has been kinda hectic the past few weeks and I haven't much felt like working on my models. I did however manage to finish up the 'copper' plating today. Sorry no pictures but maybe I can manage to do a float test soon.
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I I did a float test with the keel today. I did notice a few problems when it comes to moving the model as I bumped one of the davits again today, luckily it didn't break but instead came loose from the hull, the channels are fairly fragile and get caught on doorways, the cleats for the gammoning are easy to pop off the gammoning, the figurehead goes exactly where I grab the model in the front to carry it and the weight of the keel amplifies any damage caused by collisions with obstacles wile carrying it. Now to how it held up to the water, I splashed water on the deck and soon noticed the cardboard deck swelling at the hatch corners, the lower portions of the mast had swelled from water that got into the hull and the water inside of the hull would reach the electronics before I would be able to notice her sitting lower in the water. With the 12 pound keel it took six additional pounds plus the battery to get her sitting at her waterline. To test stability I puled on the mast until water started flowing in trough the fairleads this took one pound three ounces force applied to the top of the lower mast to achieve with with the keel about 6 inches (shallow bathtub) below the hull.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_1078.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_1078.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_1073.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_1073.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_1081.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_1081.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/Lextin/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_1076.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Lextin/media/rc%20sailing/Byzantium/106_1076.jpg.html)
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I made a new barrel for the pivot gun. This time with a brass tube lining the inside so I could actually fire it.
https://youtu.be/j4Ejpw95O4Y
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Here is a link to a video I made of me making a 4" sanding drum
https://youtu.be/6uOatEx2uk0
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