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Title: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Das boot on April 03, 2014, 12:10:46 AM
Hello.
 
Can any of you help me to find lines and build plans for a pelagic trawler/purser/seiner approx 50-80 meter length, and from approx year 1995-> .
Have for many years want to build a model of one, size 130-150 cm long depend of what plan I end up with.
 
Regards Brian Larsen
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on April 03, 2014, 01:16:34 AM
Maybe something more recent, 60- 78 m, 2004

 :-)
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 03, 2014, 04:00:16 AM
Hello Brian
 
For the older fashioned type i found this website...
 
very interesting, loads of details and even lines drawings somewhere im sure
 
http://www.expeditionyacht.org/ (http://www.expeditionyacht.org/)
 
cheers
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 03, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
Have you  asked if any builders in Norway would be willing to supply drawings for the purpose of building a model = Charlie
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Neil on April 03, 2014, 07:12:06 PM
Have you  asked if any builders in Norway would be willing to supply drawings for the purpose of building a model = Charlie

Charlie....you have as much chance of ship builders supplying plans from Norway as I have platting fog..............

remembered years ago Tommy Watt.....curator of Shetland Museum, Lerwick asking me if I could build a model of the seiner Altaire, and he would get the plans for the boat....

both he and I spent over 6 months trying the ship builders and museums in Norway by writing letters to them..............they never replied to either of us ONCE........It was just sheer ignorance............

in the end Tommy went aboard the Altaire one day and asked the owner skipper if he could get hold of them......but even he took nearly 4 months to get them...........think I still have them somewhere but it's the old Altaire daiting to the mid 90's.......so don't hold out hope of getting them from Norway.......very none responsive to modellers. sad to say.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on April 03, 2014, 07:56:23 PM
I have gone through the same trials,... trying to contact shipyards for information to build models.
99.9% of them will not respond, the 0.01 percent that do will cite Copyright issues.
When I do find that Nth percent response that will assist me with information, I am then bound by
a Non Disclosure Agreement, and can not share the plans.
Karstensens (http://www.karstensens.dk/en/newsarchive.html) is one of those shipyards that don't respond. It is an engineering /client copyright issue that
prevents them from sharing the data we would like to build models.

I was told by an associate, that he could get me trawler info from a UK shipyard, but I was jazzing on the
Karstensens designs, and "lines".  It was a German hobbyist that produced the lines for the ST-140.
And I would be happy to share a copy if that is what you would like to build.

 :-)
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: tattooed on April 03, 2014, 08:02:40 PM
bill woods from aberdeen does a hull 2mtrs long have his address some where i'll dig it out over the weekend if it's of any help to you , if you go to www.trawlerphotos.co.uk (http://www.trawlerphotos.co.uk) go in the gallery and scroll down to models in build you will see some of the ones he's building at the moment had a few of his hulls and very good the are to
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on April 03, 2014, 08:27:30 PM
Since you are in Denmark, perhaps contacting these modelers will be helpful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foLdSv6kGXg


Martin and his group are fantastic modelers, and fishermen.
https://www.facebook.com/martin.holst.56

:)
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Das boot on April 03, 2014, 08:29:44 PM
I live not far away from Karstensens shipyard and talk to them in person and not on the phone, to buy some plans, even for some ship that today is choppet up in pieces and sold for scrap to China, but no no no it can not be posible to get any help from them at all. The same went for the other shipyards in the area, no matter how you ask and offer to pay, the have copyright etc and always end up with nothing in the end. Still hoping that any of you have some plans and want to share them with me, if I get different kinds then I promise to build one of each ;-)
 
Regards Brian.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: DavieTait on April 03, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
Bill Woods hull is from the shipyard plans , its for the Ocean Venture FR77 / Ocean Quest BF77 sisterships built in Spain for Fraserburgh owners , its 1/75th scale so just under 1m long

(http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/681/medium/oceanventureFR77-16aug2012g.jpg)
(http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/681/medium/oceanventureFR77-01oct2012n.jpg)
(http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/681/medium/oceanquestBF77-16aug2012b.jpg)
(http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/681/medium/oceanquestBF77-16aug2012h.jpg)
http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=930


http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=111147
http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=170418
http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=165737
http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=154863

Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 03, 2014, 09:48:17 PM
Glad you found the lines from the link Brian
 
 :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: deadwood on April 04, 2014, 11:45:15 AM
Glad you found the lines from the link Brian
Thanks for sharing.
From the downloadable plans of that site one could convert the REMBRANDT expedition yacht back into a beautiful fishing vessel.


For Brian's comfort, some shipyards, ship brokers or shipping lines host on their websites PDFs of the GA plans, albeit most in small scale.
If however, the degree of detail and the small scale of such available drawings would suffice for your model making purposes and meet your demands,
creating an acceptable body plan for a decent model from them is often less witchcraft and sorcery than commonly assumed.

Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 04, 2014, 11:59:46 AM
Your welcome
 
Its probably the only older style drawing available on the internet ( i trawled about for days to find something ) pun intended  ok2
 
 :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Das boot on April 05, 2014, 05:12:54 PM
Hello guys
 
You can see on the picture what kind of ship shape I seek, hopefully someone can help with some plan for making the frames.
Regards Brian.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: DavieTait on April 05, 2014, 05:42:05 PM
Pretty sure thats one of Bill Woods models Brian and thats the hull he sells at 1/75ft scale ( real boat 66m I think ), thats the Ocean Venture FR77 sister to the Ocean Quest BF77

(http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/681/medium/oceanventureFR77-16aug2012g.jpg)
^^Ocean Venture FR77
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 05, 2014, 06:20:28 PM
Yeh Brian those plans in the link are an older style....
 
Deadwood has a thread in rc modellbau shiffe forum, he has about 30 odd pages of designs he has done on Delftship...
Or maybe pm him on here
 
Im pretty sure he has that style of trawler as one of his downloads....( if not he will have something in there that may be adaptable )
 
 :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: deadwood on April 06, 2014, 12:50:25 AM
I forgot since it was a while ago.
According to the mtime of the files I have just rediscovered on an unmounted file system on my hard disk they date back to Nov 2012.
That must have been when I drew the lines plan of the above mentioned ST-140 Trawler after the product sheet from the Norwegian SKIPSTEKNISK ship designers
which contained the above posted GA plan and below artist's impression of the vessel along with its main particulars.






Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 06, 2014, 01:00:06 AM
Great stuff Ralph  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Das boot on April 06, 2014, 01:16:37 AM
Thanks Ralph, that was exactly what I was looking for  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
 
Regards Brian.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: srcampb on April 06, 2014, 09:50:06 PM
The 1/25 Girl Stephanie hull shown n the link to Trawlerphotos is amazing? Is it really available for purchase?
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: DavieTait on April 06, 2014, 10:14:34 PM
 wpwood50@tiscali.co.uk Thats Bill's Email and Bill does mould to order , not sure if he'd do the Girl Stephanie but no harm in asking but shipping stateside may be expensive its HUGE !!
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: srcampb on April 06, 2014, 10:26:51 PM
Might be sacreligious, but even if we had to cut it in half to get it here.... WHAT a model! Thanks for the contact info.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on April 07, 2014, 03:30:44 AM
I forgot since it was a while ago.
According to the mtime of the files I have just rediscovered on an unmounted file system on my hard disk they date back to Nov 2012.
That must have been when I drew the lines plan of the above mentioned ST-140 Trawler after the product sheet from the Norwegian SKIPSTEKNISK ship designers
which contained the above posted GA plan and below artist's impression of the vessel along with its main particulars.

As I was saying,... A wonderful German hobbyist created the lines on Delftship...

Thank you again, Ralph.

 :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 07, 2014, 04:31:23 AM
Ralph has done some great work
 
I think he likes the big stuff though, cruise liners and ferries etc.....or maybe thats what he gets requested to do
 
 :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: hama on April 25, 2014, 06:50:47 PM
Steinhagen modelltechnik offers grp hulls for these kind of vessels, I believe.
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 25, 2014, 07:36:57 PM
Hi Hama where are the based in - Charlie
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 25, 2014, 08:33:02 PM
they do indeed have palegic hulls, 3 different lengths
 
dont know about price
 
http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/bilder/allgemein/Trawler.jpg (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/bilder/allgemein/Trawler.jpg)
 
(http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/bilder/allgemein/Trawler.jpg)
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: deadwood on April 25, 2014, 08:40:44 PM
Steinhagen-Modelltechnik (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/) are based in the Southern Baltic Sea Port City Kiel in Germany.
Though their GRP Hulls usually come with a hefty price tag they have earned a reputation among model boaters to be of highest quality of all GRP model ship hull vendors on the German market currently.

You can download their catalogue from here (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/download/smt%20Katalog%202013-2014%20online.pdf).

While at the following links you will find three variants (mainly in length and displacement) of a modern trawler from their range of products:

Trawler Skagen 389 (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/htm/trawler389.htm)
Trawler Skagen 391 (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/htm/trawler391.htm)
Trawler Skagen 393 (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/htm/trawler393.htm)

P.S. Sorry, for the redundant information. While I was typing my post Chris already had posted.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on April 25, 2014, 09:27:19 PM
Steinhagen-Modelltechnik (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/) are based in the Southern Baltic Sea Port City Kiel in Germany.
Though their GRP Hulls usually come with a hefty price tag they have earned a reputation among model boaters to be of highest quality of all GRP model ship hull vendors on the German market currently.

You can download their catalogue from here (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/download/smt%20Katalog%202013-2014%20online.pdf).

While at the following links you will find three variants (mainly in length and displacement) of a modern trawler from their range of products:

Trawler Skagen 389 (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/htm/trawler389.htm)
Trawler Skagen 391 (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/htm/trawler391.htm)
Trawler Skagen 393 (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/htm/trawler393.htm)

P.S. Sorry, for the redundant information. While I was typing my post Chris already had posted.

My first thought was that exactly, Steinhagen is always so expensive...

Trawler Skagen 391 (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/htm/trawler391.htm)

So, ... wait, 52 Can that even be right?

 :o

I think I may make some inquires.. :}
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: deadwood on April 25, 2014, 10:42:19 PM
Yes, the price seems affordable.
I've just looked it up in the in the current price list (http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/download/smt%20Preislisten%202013%20netto%20mit%20Bestellformular%20online.pdf) from the Steinhagen website.

But beware this note in the header of each page:
Quote from: Steinhagen Pricelist
Gltig ab 28.10.2013 - Alle Preise in Euro zzgl. der ges. MWSt. (derzeit 19%)

It says that all prices in the list are exclusive of the VAT in Germany which is 19% for most products (n.b. books have only half that percentage of VAT).

So the shortest trawler hull from the product line would cost almost 62 .

Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 26, 2014, 12:22:03 AM
So about 50 + postage at about 18 euros all in about 65.00
 
Thats very reasonable  :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 26, 2014, 08:06:42 AM
Chris - Are you fancying one i think i might order a middle size one seems a nice hull -  Charlie
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: GAZOU on April 26, 2014, 10:24:57 AM
When we know the price of the materials, the resin, the tissues and of the workforce it is not expensive
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 26, 2014, 10:52:45 AM
smt65 is 103.65 euros delivered to scotland
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 26, 2014, 10:55:00 AM
thats about 85 not to bad for a good model hull
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 26, 2014, 12:39:08 PM
Hi Charlie
 
Im not looking for one right now, but  i do have a pelagic project next year probably..
 
im glad i know where to look now
 
85 is a snip to be honest
 
 :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Das boot on April 26, 2014, 01:11:28 PM
Im sure this GRP hulls are great, but to small for the boats I build, almost all of my build are boats 1 meter -1,60 meters in lengt and made with frames and wood for the body and last fiberglass. But think when I getting older and weaker  {:-{ , then I proberly shift to GRP hull and 1/2 meters boat at max. lengt  ok2 , but as long then im young and healty then the big boats are my favorite  :-))  he he !!!. I have a nice projekt going on right now with a pelagic trawler, build in 1:50 and ended up in size 1,40 meters in lengt, hopefully this will be a functionel trawler with net and everything, catching fish for my cat  O0
 
Brian...
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 26, 2014, 02:31:30 PM
Chris - i am going to order one -  possibly it will be a stock item - sit on the shelf for a time Charlie
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 26, 2014, 04:46:05 PM
Good for you Charlie
 
Please keep me informed of service and quality
 
cheers
 
 :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Neil on April 26, 2014, 05:19:30 PM
Im sure this GRP hulls are great, but to small for the boats I build, almost all of my build are boats 1 meter -1,60 meters in lengt and made with frames and wood for the body and last fiberglass. But think when I getting older and weaker  {:-{ , then I proberly shift to GRP hull and 1/2 meters boat at max. lengt  ok2 , but as long then im young and healty then the big boats are my favorite  :-))  he he !!!. I have a nice projekt going on right now with a pelagic trawler, build in 1:50 and ended up in size 1,40 meters in lengt, hopefully this will be a functionel trawler with net and everything, catching fish for my cat  O0
 
Brian...
there is nothing weak about grp that you have to make a heavy POF hull and then coat it with grp.......some of the largest private yachts and our own minesweepers are grp hulls..........and seem to weather storms pretty easily, so a 1.83mtr model such as my clyde lifeboat or any purse seiner will have ample strength.

neil.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: DavieTait on April 26, 2014, 06:03:25 PM
Im sure this GRP hulls are great, but to small for the boats I build, almost all of my build are boats 1 meter -1,60 meters in lengt and made with frames and wood for the body and last fiberglass. But think when I getting older and weaker  {:-{ , then I proberly shift to GRP hull and 1/2 meters boat at max. lengt  ok2 , but as long then im young and healty then the big boats are my favorite  :-))  he he !!!. I have a nice projekt going on right now with a pelagic trawler, build in 1:50 and ended up in size 1,40 meters in lengt, hopefully this will be a functionel trawler with net and everything, catching fish for my cat  O0
 
Brian...

Bill Wood has a pelagic trawler hull ( Girl Stephanie from Ireland ) that's 2m long and can be ordered from him in Aberdeen
(http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/510/IMG_42011.jpg)
wpwood50@tiscali.co.uk

He's got a lot of big hulls of various trawlers all moulds made as far as possible off the shipyard plans
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 26, 2014, 06:14:52 PM
Davie - Does Bill have these size of hulls  -   Charlie
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: DavieTait on April 26, 2014, 06:17:10 PM
Aye Charlie his models are all either 1/25th for the smaller boats or 1/33rd for the bigger boats ( Spinningdale at 1/33rd around 32'' other boats up to 48'' normally )

Give Bill a shout he'll Email you his hull list and prices
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Das boot on April 27, 2014, 02:25:23 PM
Hello boys
 
Sorry but I think youre misunderstand me, I didnt mean that the GRP hulls are weak, but these 3 pelagic hulls were to small for the scale of boats I build in. This was not a critic of GRP hulls or SMTs fine work, the only thing was the size, I think were to small for me  :-) .
 
The weak one was myself and when I get old and loose my streng to handle the bigger models, thats what I meant  ok2 .
 
Fiberglass are a very strong thing, have a homemade boat at 5,65 meters and using it for sailing to places where I dive, it carries easy 6 divers with all gear, and people who knows diving know how heavy the gear is, and not forget the 175 kg for the 115 HP motor. This boat are made of fiberglass on fiberglass many times, no wood or steel to give more strengt and no need for this, course the fiberglass is strong enough to handle even hard weather and heavy loaded.
 
Regards Brian.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Neil on April 27, 2014, 05:13:38 PM
sorry brian, yes matey....did mis understand you....sorry about that. neil. :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Das boot on April 27, 2014, 06:23:42 PM
No problem Neil, better to be mis understand, that not understanded at all  %) %) %)  Brian..
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 28, 2014, 08:20:18 PM
For anybody interested the smt66 is 75.50gbp and the smt65 is about 12gbp dearer to this country
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on April 28, 2014, 09:28:51 PM
For anybody interested the smt66 is 75.50gbp and the smt65 is about 12gbp dearer to this country

I think I prefer the SMT65(128 shipped), however I always run into trouble making direct bank transfers overseas.
My bank has frustrated two German model shops. One to the point where he stopped emailing me.  {:-{

So I may end up scratch building anyway.

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Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 28, 2014, 09:32:56 PM
smt65 is 103.56 euros to Scotland
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on April 28, 2014, 10:02:37 PM
smt65 is 103.56 euros to Scotland

A little more to the United States.  ;)
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 29, 2014, 12:34:02 AM
Did you get any other prices Charlie from Bill Wood ?
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 29, 2014, 07:04:19 AM
No Chris will phone Bill later today and let you know - Charlie
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: dougal99 on April 29, 2014, 11:12:27 AM
I think I prefer the SMT65(128 shipped), however I always run into trouble making direct bank transfers overseas.
My bank has frustrated two German model shops. One to the point where he stopped emailing me.  {:-{

So I may end up scratch building anyway.

 %)
Umi


do you have access to Travelex? I've used them a couple of times for bank transfer with no problems.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: deadwood on April 29, 2014, 11:46:35 AM
I cannot tell what the situation with bank transfers originating from a UK account is like.
But in the past I never have encountered any problems in the opposite direction,
i.e. transfer via IBAN / BIC from my Sparkasse account in Germany to an account with a UK bank.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 29, 2014, 12:27:13 PM
There is a transaction fee on both sides for me it was 9 for about 150.00....and a seller in germany had a fee of 10 euros...
i think that is a minimum charge on any foreign transaction through
 
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 29, 2014, 01:49:35 PM
Chris - I phoned Bill Wood and his trawler is 30-36inch and is 65 plus 15 postage
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: deadwood on April 29, 2014, 02:01:07 PM
Chris - I phoned Bill Wood and his trawler is 30-36inch and is 65 plus 15 postage

On the photo above the hull's length is exceeding Bill's tallness.
You don't want to dwarf him by implying he is less than 92 cm tall, do you? :D

But 97 isn't bad for such a hull.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on April 29, 2014, 02:22:01 PM
Thanks Charlie
 
Thats fairly decent too, im unsure of the 6 inch tolerance though  {-) {-)   
 
 :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on April 30, 2014, 09:25:12 PM
Umi


do you have access to Travelex? I've used them a couple of times for bank transfer with no problems.

I think at this point, I suspect that Steinhagen has stopped messaging me also.
He didn't answer when I suggested I could use Travelex to send funds.

I know Germany has a great banking system, but it just isn't simple or free in the United states.

 %)
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 30, 2014, 09:34:24 PM
He answered my e-mails but replied in German no use to me
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on April 30, 2014, 09:49:33 PM
He answered my e-mails but replied in German no use to me

Google translator works well enough.
I had read somewhere that his wife had health issues, and she was the English speaker in the house.

 :-))
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on April 30, 2014, 09:52:12 PM
Never thought of that but i have given copy to a man in town who is of German decent--hope that will help
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: deadwood on April 30, 2014, 11:19:29 PM
He answered my e-mails but replied in German no use to me

If you posted his reply or sent it to me as PM I could translate it for you into English.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on May 01, 2014, 01:49:51 AM
I see his bank information on the bottom left corner of the invoice.
I may yet have a chance at success.

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Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on May 01, 2014, 06:54:32 AM
thank Deadwood that is much appreciated
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on May 01, 2014, 11:00:47 AM
 I have now ordered from Bill Wood - delivery next week
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on May 16, 2014, 09:02:16 PM
Hull on the way from Steinhagen Modelltechnik.

Once a method to send fund was worked out, it was a smooth transaction.
The fee for a wire transfer was 25-30 or 15-24.
Travelex worked out well, despite fees.

Steinhagen has shipped DHL with tracking.

 :-)
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: dougal99 on May 16, 2014, 10:43:07 PM
Umi,


Glad Travlelex worked out. but the fees in the US are 3-4 times those over here and double that of the banks. Always knew I picked the wrong career  %%
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: chris gillespie on May 16, 2014, 11:06:51 PM
Please keep in touch Umi
 
I.e photos and quality  :-))
 
 
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: deadwood on May 16, 2014, 11:19:36 PM
...but the fees in the US are 3-4 times those over here and double that of the banks. Always knew I picked the wrong career  %%

Hello dougal99,

I guess you remember from Calculus the concept of derivatives and how - well, they are derived - by taking the limit.
If so then this simple prove why businessmen earn exceedingly more than engineers (http://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/1vje79/why_businessmen_earn_more_than_engineers/) will look neat to you.

Regards,
Ralph
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on May 19, 2014, 07:51:08 AM
I received my hull from Bill wood and am very happy with it---no hassle with money transfers etc
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on May 26, 2014, 05:36:42 PM
Hull received from Steinhagen Modelltechnik, 1:75 scale.
Very nice, a few little "wows" but nothing that a bit o' bondo can't fix.

 :-))

Though I think I could have gone to 1:50 scale

.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Das boot on May 29, 2014, 11:48:34 AM
Hi Umi
 
Im looking forward to see the finish result of what you are gonna built on this fine hull. Looks like the hull are made in good quality and strong :-)
 
Regards
 
Brian.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: deadwood on May 29, 2014, 12:27:06 PM
Hi Umi,

congrats to the newly acquired hull.
Did it come with one or two sheets of the general arrangement plan,
or are you going to build a freelance, kind of generic, trawler design on it?

Regards,
Ralph
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on May 29, 2014, 04:23:57 PM
There are no plans at all with the boat, I don't know if they were available separately or not.

My goal is a door trawler, modeled after the MFV Aine.
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: DavieTait on May 29, 2014, 05:18:39 PM
http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=502
http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=745

Do a search of both those galleries and you should find plenty of photos of the Aine or her sister the Western Chieftain Umi
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on May 29, 2014, 07:37:18 PM
Thank you Dave,

Do you see this boat often?
I could use some deck plans...  :-))

I have collected a lot of referance photos, but your link had one of Aine with trawl doors.
It's the first photo I have found that actually shows her with doors. I imagine she purse seines most of the time?

Regards
Aime
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: wicker on May 29, 2014, 07:41:45 PM
I think you will find that these boats concentrate more on trawling now but maybe someone may tell you different--Charlie
Title: Re: Purser/seiner/pelagic trawler lines or plans
Post by: DavieTait on May 29, 2014, 08:23:01 PM
Aine/Western Chieftain can only trawl Umi , don't think there's a single boat on the Irish register that can purse seine now , only a couple of boats left in Scotland that can but they normally only trawl as well

I think the Aine/Western Chieftain pair up for the Mackerel. Normally don't see them that often they've both been here for refits and repaints ( I'm NE Scotland ) but normally I don't see them about