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Title: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on July 05, 2007, 01:54:27 PM: Just a couple of pic's from my first attempt at scratch building well semi scratch

A bit of advice if like me you only have a small shed . get rid of any spiders before you apply paint
gave a quick coat on the deck last night, whent back to look a bit later the fumes had killed one
of the buggers it only fell onto my deck. don't you love the wild life.
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Guy Bagley on July 05, 2007, 02:21:40 PM: tell us more, what scale is she ? is the hull commercially available or all your own work ? did the fittings come from a trader or are they scratch built...?

looks very neat and tidy..... great job there MCAT!
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on July 05, 2007, 03:04:58 PM: Thank you Guy, she is at 1/12th scale hull is from Metcalf Mouldings
fittings are from slipway, had to cut and bodge to suite ,
windows / transfers from speedline models Fantastic kits on there own.

As I say its my first time, fixing the deck to the hull and making the cabins was enough first time
round, it has working lights, radar, well were working last night ??
mixer unit, sound unit, just hope it floats .
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: -KEMO- on July 06, 2007, 02:34:22 PM: Hiya, the model looks fine, I would like to build one myself one day. I'm not sure if you know but Waverley Models do Tyne Class fittings.

Keith.
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on July 06, 2007, 04:40:03 PM: Didnot no that will look on there site . see if they 1/12th fittings thanks for the tip Keith

look forward to seeing some pic's when you get started Cheers
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: -KEMO- on July 06, 2007, 05:24:23 PM: Hiya,
they are not on the website but you will find them in his catalogue, and they are 1:12, you may already have what you need, but his catalogue is still worth a look. I collect lifeboat postcards and I see that your boat is the 47-040 Shoreham lifeboat.

Keith.
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on July 09, 2007, 01:53:24 PM: OK Keith will send for a catalogue. always worth it for the extras and replacements .

yep she is the Shoreham lifeboat. spend my childhood fishing from the harbour arms. watching
and hoping they would launch the lifeboat. she was the last Tyne to be built, and will be afloat for a year or more. while they build a new boat house ,for the new boat a Tamar.
all this starts in November I'm told . when me numbers come up this week putting in a bid for her
that should please the wife. should look good on a trailer in the front garden .
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Guy Bagley on July 09, 2007, 02:49:17 PM: MCAT , let us know when she is due to be on the lake, would love to see her in the flesh...as it were !
( i managed to get some fittings in weymouth.... but still have a few to source !)
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on July 09, 2007, 05:00:39 PM: Will do Guy after the first top secret test is over. cannot stand loud laughter ;D
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Bob Russell on August 17, 2007, 12:12:19 AM: Hi from Canada

I too have this Tyne lifeboat hull and have scratchbuilt the cabin....thats as far as I have gotten....what type of motors are you planning to use?

Your model looks 1st class.....

Bob Russell
Winnipeg
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on August 17, 2007, 01:41:23 PM: Hello Bob , as for the motors I will have to check to be sure but they are from caldercraft ??? supplied my westbourne models
along with esc and other bits I will get a list of whats in her may help you should it not all suite, as yet to test on the water

I believe the two batts im using 12v jel cell will be to heavy but looking for duration not speed just a little lift from the bows would be nice. but I'm learning as i go . I will add a couple more pic's .

have you any pics would be nice to see them, as not to many Tynes about.
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Bob Russell on August 19, 2007, 08:21:32 PM: Thanks for the reply.......I dont have any photos of my Tyne as yet but will send some on when I have some....

It has been a hard slog as I am not a great scartchbuilder. I have aquired the windows and the fittings from Speedling (Ithink) and Model Slipway and these will help alot.

I have some wonderfull photos of a Tyne built by a British modeller, Terry Edwards, he sent me. I can scan them when I have time and forward some of them. His moedl is a beauty. He has done a wonderful job on it.

Thanks for the info on the motors....

Cheers
Bob
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Bob Russell on August 19, 2007, 08:24:10 PM: Jayzuz.....with all the typo errors it must look like I've been drinking! :D
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Faraday's Cage on August 19, 2007, 09:02:20 PM: Hi Bob,

Good of you to join us all here. O0
I'm sending you a PM shortly.

Terry.
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on August 20, 2007, 10:50:34 AM: Hi Bob just a few more pic's , I have a couple of bits still to fit, but waiting until the on the water tests are done

hope all is well as we are having a club regatta on Sept the 2cnd all monies to the RNLI wont look to good if it sinks ;D
didnot notice the typo's must be all that navy rum, love it.

list of bits inside are:

Caldercraft cem 900t x 2
Electronize fr30hx x2
Hunter distribution boards x 2
Action 2 way switchers x 2
Action mixer
Multiplex rx 7 synth
JJC sound unit
Hunter flasher units x 2

Like yourself I'm am not that experienced at scratch building infact its first time and only my second full model .
as long as its reasonable I'm happy don't go in for nit picking other models as by trying this I now appreciate what an art modeling is
and enjoy other peoples work the more for it

look forward to some pictures if you get time
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on August 20, 2007, 11:08:35 AM: Last few Bob don't want to send you to sleep.

how big is the Modling Fraternity over there are you well catered for by suppliers , ??? can be difficult here some times.

Mick
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Bob Russell on August 22, 2007, 11:34:03 AM: Great photos....you have done a brilliant job....I am wondering if your stanchions are scratchbuilt or commercial fitings. They are so unique to the Tyne where they meet the deck. I have puzzled over this for some time.

The model boat world over here in Rupert's Land is very smal indeed. We have a small club of about 10 members but we have built a very nice assortment of subjects. We are not catered for very well by the hobby trade here other than for the standard paint, glue etc. The only model boat stuff we see in the shops are the fast electric boats and the junk from Dumas stateside. >:(

The electronics of your boat are very well known here.....Electronize Design and Hunter Systems do a very fast mail order business for us here whenever we need it. As do most of the British model boat traders. Mail order keeps us going here. :)

I have been over to the UK a number of times for model boating events, 1996 Greenwich show, 1998 and 2001 at Beale Park.

You lads are so lucky to be well served by your traders and you must have a show every weekend you could attend if so desired!

Your lifeboat looks great and happy sailing at your RNLI charity event. O0

I am now inspired to pull it out and dust it off....my lifeboat that is! ;D
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on August 22, 2007, 02:01:17 PM: Nice to hear from you again Bob, Glad that the suppliers over here can help you, yes we do have a lot of shows we are probably better off than we realise, the Stanchions are commercial , by http://www.modelslipway.com/

As you say the Tyne has a rather awkward set up most others have a kick board to attach them to, My ham fisted way was
to purchase double what I required and cut the triangle section of and glue it to the one being used on the boat, which gave
me the thickness to attach to the feet of each Stanchion, which I made from Brass tube of the shape you see not quite the correct
shape as square but I'm OK with that.
the left overs from my butchery were used to make the extra supports required on some of the others with a small piece of tubing to help with the fixing. each one of the main Stanchions i drilled and put a small pin through. to hold the support and again through
the support feet and into the deck, the Stanchions are soft metal so when knock them they should bend or rip bits of my deck off :embarrassed:

so you have been to Beale Park, I have been this year and will go again in a few weeks as its about 30 Min's from me.
my next show will be Warwick love that one in November. if I'm good i get to take a wish list for Christmas prezza's :angel:

Do you have a web site like Mayhem, I think its Fantastic. well nice to chat if I can help please shout but remember I'm no expert
but I know a website were they live. O0
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: gribeauval on August 22, 2007, 02:38:07 PM: I also used Model Slipway intermediate stanchions but made all the mountings from aluminium angle.
However I made all the strut stanchions from scratch to give plenty of rigidity to the rails as I tend to have a habit of catching them when working on the boat. 8)

Mike
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on August 22, 2007, 05:01:46 PM: Bob gribeauval way is great nice and strong. got me worried now. Bob note he is the man to ask a true lifeboat nutter

dont forget to pop some pictures on the web when you start.

cheers for now
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: gribeauval on August 23, 2007, 07:30:38 PM: Quote from: MCAT on August 22, 2007, 05:01:46 PM
Bob gribeauval way is great nice and strong. got me worried now. Bob note he is the man to ask a true lifeboat nutter

dont forget to pop some pictures on the web when you start.

cheers for now

Lifeboat nutter??....... perhaps your right!! ;D as I decided to build the boathouse and slipway as well!! ::)
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: slewis on August 23, 2007, 08:28:01 PM: Now that looks excellent ! O0 O0

Need I ask if that it is a working slipway and winch ?

Great work :)

Shane
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: gribeauval on August 23, 2007, 08:41:36 PM: Quote from: Shane on August 23, 2007, 08:28:01 PM
Now that looks excellent ! O0 O0

Need I ask if that it is a working slipway and winch ?

Great work :)
Shane

Make your own mind up Shane!! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RenaROrEf14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RenaROrEf14)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQPuo6P4NZs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQPuo6P4NZs)
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: slewis on August 23, 2007, 08:48:28 PM: :o :o Love it ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Tug-Kenny on August 23, 2007, 09:01:16 PM: That will be a showstopper at the lake. Great work.

Cheers...Ken
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: gribeauval on August 23, 2007, 10:04:30 PM: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on August 23, 2007, 09:01:16 PM
That will be a showstopper at the lake. Great work.
Cheers...Ken

Not as much as this one will !!!! ;D ;D ;D , but that's for a different thread soon! ;)

regards Mike
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: slewis on August 23, 2007, 10:20:35 PM: Ok enough is enough ! I am moderating this thread right here and right now ! As the words coming from my mouth are not fit for a public forum ! ;D ;D

How bigs that one Mike 12'-15' ?
I just know it will be a show stopper given your other builds on here O0 O0
Shane
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: gribeauval on August 23, 2007, 10:34:17 PM: 4 Mtrs long Shane, it's going to be a 1/3rd scale Mersey but a l----o----n----g term project!! ;)

Mike
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Bob Russell on August 24, 2007, 12:43:48 AM: Hey there...thanks for posting those pics of your stanchion construction.....you have given me some ideas how to do it....I was at a loss....hey Im no engineer!

30 mins from Beale Park....lucky ....when I die I want to go to Model Boaters Heaven.....Beale Park ! ;D
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: riggers24 on August 24, 2007, 09:51:00 AM: 4 meters, Bl00dy hell O0. Have you thought how you are going to power the vessel and I take it you will be sitting inside or are you going for RC.
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Guy Bagley on August 24, 2007, 09:57:16 AM: 4 meters long.... awesome stuff, i cant wait to follow the building thread on that project !

if i built a boat that big the wife would definately bury me in it.....SWMBO would have no hesitation !
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: gribeauval on August 24, 2007, 12:57:26 PM: Quote from: riggers24 on August 24, 2007, 09:51:00 AM
4 meters, Bl00dy hell O0. Have you thought how you are going to power the vessel and I take it you will be sitting inside or are you going for RC.

Twin electric trolling motors in the tunnels for power seems to be my favoured propulsion system at the moment, and yes I intend to be aboard this one!!

Quote from: Guy Bagley on August 24, 2007, 09:57:16 AM
4 meters long.... awesome stuff, i cant wait to follow the building thread on that project !
if i built a boat that big the wife would definately bury me in it.....SWMBO would have no hesitation !

Only if I tried to bring it indoors!!

Anyway no more about the Mersey as this is a thread about TYNE LIFEBOATS ;)
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on August 24, 2007, 01:25:22 PM: gribeauval I am lost for words mate awesome, O0 can I ask you how you lift the tyne into the water IE: by strop's or on a stand.???
a pic would be nice if you have one, as being my first model of any size I'm not sure the best way to go about it, already nearly
cuddled it to death lugging it upstairs to the test tank. please don't tell me you tow it to the lake and lower by a winch. ;D
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: cbr900 on August 24, 2007, 01:36:42 PM: Mike,

We do not have your types of rescue vessels over here, the pic in your avatar, what sort of RNLI is that ..........

Roy
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: gribeauval on August 24, 2007, 02:10:32 PM: Quote from: MCAT on August 24, 2007, 01:25:22 PM
gribeauval I am lost for words mate awesome, O0 can I ask you how you lift the tyne into the water IE: by strop's or on a stand.???
a pic would be nice if you have one, as being my first model of any size I'm not sure the best way to go about it, already nearly
cuddled it to death lugging it upstairs to the test tank. please don't tell me you tow it to the lake and lower by a winch. ;D

I have a brilliant aid for moving/lifting the Tyne around the house and in/out of the water,................MY SON!!!

He also models lifeboats even though he has learning difficulties, in fact he can look at a plan and visualise the finished article better than I can!
He has just finished the ex-Cromer Tyne in 1/12th scale, his painting isn't great but every part has been built by himself from scratch.
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: DickyD on August 24, 2007, 02:23:26 PM: A very nice looking craft. Lifeboats obviously run in the family. Lucky man.
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: gribeauval on August 24, 2007, 02:31:23 PM: Quote from: cbr900 on August 24, 2007, 01:36:42 PM
Mike,
We do not have your types of rescue vessels over here, the pic in your avatar, what sort of RNLI is that ..........
Roy

The avatar picture is of a Trent class lifeboat re-built from a Model Slipway kit (greatly modified!) I did for a friend of mine in Norfolk.
This is a video,with music, of the whole build I did for a laugh, the last section shows how the boat handles . ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1v-bfw9rBM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1v-bfw9rBM)
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: cbr900 on August 24, 2007, 04:34:21 PM: Mike,

I think that is brilliant I will be ordering one very soon, thank you for that.......

Roy
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Tug-Kenny on August 24, 2007, 04:52:04 PM: Just one word ... Superb

Ken
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on August 24, 2007, 04:53:32 PM: Well done young gribeauval . nice model looks good on the water. will try mine this week end hope it floats as well as yours

I like the old tyne , Shoreham will be changing to a Tamar in the next couple of years. any more pic's

see you.

mick
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: gribeauval on August 24, 2007, 06:27:26 PM: Quote from: MCAT on August 24, 2007, 04:53:32 PM
Well done young gribeauval . nice model looks good on the water. will try mine this week end hope it floats as well as yours
I like the old tyne , Shoreham will be changing to a Tamar in the next couple of years. any more pic's
see you.
mick

Thanks for the 'young' compliment!!!!!!!!!!! (56yrs old realy ;) )
If you join the Lifeboats24-7 forum, http://www.lifeboats24-7.co.uk/forum/ (http://www.lifeboats24-7.co.uk/forum/) you can see all my current builds in detail,(Tyne, 37' Oakley, Monster Mersey and a German 9.5 meter lifeboat).
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 24, 2007, 06:44:10 PM: Nice job Gibeauval Jnr. (Howitzer?)
Your dad can retire now!
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: MCAT on October 18, 2007, 01:34:21 PM: Just a couple of pics from a night sail Tues 16th October just before the heavens opened not very good photos.
lights not as bright as I thought they would be .
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 02, 2008, 12:29:08 PM: Via Email to Mayhem...

Hi. Martin

I wondered if you could please help me out i am building a 1/12 th scale tyne class life boat i have a set of plans but they do not show the windows at the front and rear of the cab do you know of any body that might have the window frame sizes so i can have set made up.

Kind regards.
Mick.
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: nhp651 on July 02, 2008, 12:39:46 PM: Speedline models do a set of windows for the Tyne, I think. depends on how much you want to pay, but they are excellent quality
Title: Re: TYNE LIFEBOAT
Post by: gribeauval on July 02, 2008, 12:41:59 PM: Best bet if you need a set, or even part of a set making, is to talk to Speedline models. They are superb fittings and he doesn't bite (much!).

http://www.speedline-models.com/page5.html (http://www.speedline-models.com/page5.html)

Mike

Great minds think alike Neil!