Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Yachts and Sail => Topic started by: jaymac on August 13, 2014, 10:37:15 pm
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Anyone own and /or have a preference for either of these boats looking at getting one of them preowned . I think the Moonbeam looks better but would hazard a guess the Archer might sail better not having seen either in the flesh
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There is a review of Moonbeam on the model Boats website: http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/moonbeam/4457
Colin
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Thanks I have seen that
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my friend has a moonbeam and it sails very well....loves light winds..it moves when nothing else does,looks very graceful ...medium winds still sails well...heavy winds don't know..not as hard to transport as the colin archer...one of the best boats is the cariag pilot cutter...that does sail well..also the kit is a lot cheaper.full kit includes sails......tony
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It would be good if you can get some close up pictures. One may have better detailing than the other.
If you search for [Colin Archer RC] on Youtube you can find some nice videos that show how it sails. It seems to sail well in the right persons hands. In one vid it is being sailed not to well.
I could not find vids for the Moonbeam.
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Thanks for the heads up on the CariaD Tony alas not a builder i'm afraid
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Ah! I think I remember reading somewhere that the Colin Archer is more of an advanced kit. Whereas, the Moonbeam is a simpler model to build. The following links may give you a better idea of what you will get for your money.
The Colin Archer also looks like it will have an auxiliary motor fitted. Very useful if you become becalmed or end up nose to the weeds.
This would mean you will need more than a two channel radio, potential extra cost for a 4Ch set.
http://colinarcher.tumblr.com/ (http://colinarcher.tumblr.com/) build log here.
http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/moonbeam/4457 (http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/moonbeam/4457) review of Moonbeam here.
If you like both, consider price, shipping/collection costs and if any radio gear is included.
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Hi jaymac I agree with Tiger t. They both look good on the water.
Are you thinking to build from a kit or buy one ready to sail?
Also have you read the review of Moonbeam in International Marine Modeling?
regards Roy
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As Jay Mac said in reply 6
He is not a builder so looking for a built model.
Ned
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Thank you for putting me right Netleyned, I missed the 'preowned part of the first post.
R
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Hi jaymac.
fleabay just now. the larger version colin archer
frank
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Radio-Controlled-Model-Boat-/301274073817?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item4625558ad9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Radio-Controlled-Model-Boat-/301274073817?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item4625558ad9)
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Yes hmsantim thats the reason for the query :-)
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a lot cheaper than the moonbeam...it looks a lovely model...as it has less sail than a moonbeam also a back up motor I think it would be a better bet....I would go for it....shame I live to far away.....tony
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Dont't think she has amotor Tony least no sign of a prop and seems to have no booms ?
Jay
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s161/jaymac_port/colinarcherRudder_zps70c53c9e.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/jaymac_port/media/colinarcherRudder_zps70c53c9e.jpg.html)
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looks like a prop in the cutaway between rudder and hull...think they were built with a prop......tony
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Looking at it full screen there is only carpet
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Caveat
At least one version of the Colin Archer is a static, and not a working RC, model.
It may also be worth checking if it is one of the two models made by Billings.
Even if the smaller version of the Colin Archer is converted, it will not sail anywhere near as well as the larger model.
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think that is a prop halfway up the rudder.....regards tony
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Hi jaymac.
why dont you mail the seller and ask is the aux motor is fitted instaid of straining yer mince pies on a thumbnail photo. Possibly took modelers licence and did`nt fit it but as you can see fron the niche in the cows udder there should be a prop in the space.
Tiger, there are three different versions the 51in as for sale on flea, a 37in (which is wot I have part started has shaft for aux motor) and the current static 47 cm wood Pof hull.
Frank
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Frank I'm ahead of you and She does not know and for the reasons She is selling I feel it would be disrespectful keep on at her to check to I'm not straining with a thumbnail I have a 2 clear Pictures that blow up very well but can only see carpet in the Hole :} I'm more concerned by the lack of booms on the sails
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Hi jay.
the end of main sail and aft sail (forget name) are atached to booms. Only end of the two jibs are`nt.
Frank
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Hi Frank I'm with it now Msail its partially hidden No wonder I cant see a prop cant even see :} a big boom
jay
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Hi Jay.
The fact I am viewing on a 31in flat screen TV with a 27.5in actual viewing screen area possibly helps me see a bit more. O0
Frank
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I meant can see the boom Frank but not the prop
Jay
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I can see a prop, just.
But that does not mean that there is a motor fitted. The original boat had a prop, and as such a model of the prop will also be included. The prop in the picture looks very small and could be a scale model prop. If so it will not have a motor. The larger of the two Billings models of the Colin Archer is suitable for RC conversion (says so in the kit) it does not mean that the model was converted for RC. To try and retro fit a static model to RC is a job for an expert.
If it was me.
As the Colin Archer model is offering too many unknowns, and the current seller seems unable to help, I would opt for the Moonbeam as I know it is a working model.
That is not an expert opinion, just my tuppence worth.
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seems to have an arial coming out of the deck just in front of the boats on deck in picture 3.....tony...grey and goes up the mast...I think it it a smashing boat
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Hi all, there are 2 manufacturers of the Colin Archer kit at 1 : 40 scale Billings and Robbe. Difificult to tell them apart. Clearly rc Perhaps someone can identify the radio Tx in the first photo? If more than 2 channel would suggest prop has a motor.
Looks like a nice boat to me.
regards Roy
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With four stick trims I would assume 4Chann.
Ned
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Well they say there is none so blind as cannot see :} I See he he
Helps if you look at the all the pics .Was just about to go for a refund on my implants. Tiger re motor fitting difficulty would this also apply to just replacing an existing one if fitted and needed replacing. Have to wait and see how the bid goes should imagine there are a few lurking in the shadows but if too close to the Moonbeam ? ;)
Jay
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Hi I see there is a Monbeam for sale on ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOONBEAM-Radio-controlled-Yacht-Complete-ready-to-go-on-the-water-/201148500880?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item2ed5628b90
regards Roy
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... re motor fitting difficulty would this also apply to just replacing an existing one if fitted and needed replacing. ...
Replacing something already there should be straight forward, if you are changing like for like.
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How Fiddly derigging/rigging The CA for transport the moonbeam seems pretty straight forward
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I wish sellers on EBay would box the items up and ship them, I would love that Moonbeam.
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Dave Metcalf will box up the kit.
Less than that guy is asking
and you will have built it yourself :-))
Ned
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Hi all, well the Colin Archer went for £150 still a bargain, I put my 2 penorth in but at half the final price, any body here win it?
Roy
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:-)
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Hi Jaymac, was that a Yes?
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It was Roy
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glad you got it...please keep us updated,lots of interest on here...questions to answer...who was right or wrong....I am nosey...good luck tony
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Will do Tony aim to pick her up Tuesday if I can get it in the car :} Jay
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Help anyone know if the Colin Archer Bow sprit withdraws easilyor can be removed .Apparently the mast does not I might be in Deep Litter here <:(
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today is the day...you will find a way round it...good luck...tony
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Well picked her up this morning little 17 ml round trip . Went in the car easily nothing removed . Albeit the Top sail and its mast were not fitted but that would not have been a problem .
Problem It aint got the top mast sail yes but no bit o stick .wonder if Billings do spares?.
Yes she does have a prop and a motor well I can see a black iron hoop with a lot of shiny copper wire on roll the and the speed cotroller is a mechnical one and Aaargh there is no Sailwinch . never has been I would think.There are loads of pulleys and rope tied off at various points. So steep learning curve for this kiddy comin up .Otherwise she seems in good nick old I would say
Thanks to everyone for their various inputs no doubt I'll have several more questions fore long
Jay