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Title: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 09, 2014, 07:33:27 am
While building the meteor i came across this boat. Took some time to find a plan and a hull came with in. Did think about  doing a plank on frame model but agreed to use the fiberglass hull. I later found the plan was available from a Scottish Government that deals with vessels. I have that on a memory stick as back up.

Some information on the Scotia
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Post by: Martin (Admin) on September 09, 2014, 08:43:18 am

Interesting!

What scale is she going to be?

Martin
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: gingyer on September 09, 2014, 09:29:11 am
here is a model of it  :-))
http://www.sfmbc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=319&highlight=scotia (http://www.sfmbc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=319&highlight=scotia)

http://s669.photobucket.com/albums/vv59/carmanmole/Model%20Boats/Fisheries%20Protection%20Vessel%20Scotia/ (http://s669.photobucket.com/albums/vv59/carmanmole/Model%20Boats/Fisheries%20Protection%20Vessel%20Scotia/)
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 09, 2014, 11:43:01 am
Hi Martin

The scale is 1/72  which is 4mm to the foot. The 00 gauge train boys work to that scale. Cheers for the reply one clean up.

Hi gingyer

That is Bill Wood ( me thinks) sailing his Scotia if it is, it was him that made my hull and supplied the plans.

I have arranged to visit the Scotia at Aberdeen soon to take lots of photos of her.

Picture 1 is two hulls. Grey one at the back is mine and the one in the front is Bill's which I think is in gingyer link
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: gingyer on September 09, 2014, 12:14:36 pm
hi Seaspry,
it isn't bill woods it is Lachie Stuart's he built his at about 1:32 scale it is a beast of a model
 the pictures are him sailing it in Loch Lomand :-))
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: marinemole on September 09, 2014, 12:29:21 pm
Lachie sailed his model at Knightswood recently, just before the blue green algae appeared and curtailed activities. A beautiful prototype and looking forward to seeing reports of progress on these new models.

Andy

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DKU8yE-ymzs (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DKU8yE-ymzs)
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on September 09, 2014, 01:33:06 pm
I've just finished reading through your Research Vessel Meteor build log - brilliant !  :-))
 
I'll just tag along on this one as well...
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 09, 2014, 03:30:13 pm
A link to the Scotia is here on May 24th

 https://www.facebook.com/modelboaters/posts/1452196248354843



Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 09, 2014, 04:09:47 pm
Capt Podge
Glad you enjoyed the Meteor build and hope you do so with the Scotia
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 11, 2014, 02:11:32 pm
Picture 1. Show the model wrapped in two small sacks. This was posted to me in Kent from Aberdeen. Remarkably there wasn't  any damage at all, good old Royal Mail
Picture 2. I always build a stand to build the model on
Picture 3.4. 5.  Shows 3 views of the model as it came out of the mould

pic 5 there that wheelie bin again



Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 14, 2014, 08:57:31 am
Time to rub down the mould seam / joint to a smooth surface and do a little prep on the hull here and there.
 
I used P400 wet and dry right though the rub down. Using new paper first to get the rough seam down to a good level just above the surface of the hull. Worked out about six pieces cut to the shape of the sanding block. Didn't use any water in the early stages of the sanding. As the wet and dry became worn  I put it a side for later use for fine rubbing down rotating all six pieces in getting a finer and finer surface.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 15, 2014, 09:53:54 am
Pic 1. 2. Still rubbing down getting a smooth as possible finish, using the P400 which I first used on the rough hull parts of the hull. Its falling apart but just glides over the hull polishing it.  At times I feel I am just pushing water along the hull. But it works for me.

Pic 3. 4. Really looking pretty good now ( to me )

Pic 5. I varnished the stand at I later date I'll glue carpeting  on the area the model sits on.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: derekwarner on September 15, 2014, 10:53:56 am
Seaspray......... %) the cork block is best for the initial elimination of hand or finger pressure marking  ok2 OK......

;) but after that......... the final rub down with 1200 W&D........ is best with a "hands or finger only job" ...... Derek
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 15, 2014, 05:37:43 pm
Hi Derek

I've changed to using a solid block ( ply) either big or small piece to suit what area I am rubbing down. Finger pressure seem to leave a uneven  surface.  Even I small area of filler its a block used.

By the time I get to a final rub down using the well used  P400. It is worn probably finer than the 1200 you mentioned

Cheers

Seaspray
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 19, 2014, 07:09:25 am
O.K. Chop shop time. Various pictures 2.-5. of trimming the hull to shape. To me it was a wee bit tricky So I got the Dremel cutting discs for the job from Ebay.  They were great tackling it picture 1.

Picture 6. is one burnt out Dremel. The armature went down. by working it too hard, hot day and partly holding it wrongly covering the vents for cooling while cutting hull.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 21, 2014, 07:07:54 pm
New Dremel bought on Ebay and its more cutting to shape the fiberglass hull.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2014, 08:15:21 pm

I'll bet you had fun doing that.   :}    A nice achievement, well done.

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 22, 2014, 06:59:32 am
Ken
I was wearing a mask but was still tasting fiberglass for a fortnight,

Just wait the portholes and windows have to be done and thats a lot of filing. Its 2mm (80 thou) thick
.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 25, 2014, 11:03:08 am
More hull cutting to basic shape
1. The slipway cut out and temporary cleaned up
2.3.4.  Side passage opening drilled, fretted and filed  to shape
5. Freeing ports (Scuppers) marked out ready to be removed
6. Ah.. 5 o'clock plane in from Amsterdam means tea time.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 05, 2014, 10:42:59 am
Pictures 1.2.3. Aft freeing ports cut out. Drilled, fretted and file to shape

Pictures 4.5. Propshaft exit piloted out then filed to correct size. Still a little sanding to do in that area.

I've noticed If I drill at 60 r.p.m. or lower  I don't get chipping of the fiberglass while drilling
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 07, 2014, 07:17:42 pm
pic 1. Taking a tracing I use Asda greaseproof paper  (Cheapskate )
pic 2,3,4, Started to drill out windows Port and Starboard lots of fretting to do.
pic 5  Windows filed to shape and port holes be marked up.
pic 6 Anchor Hawse drilled
pic 7 Hawse fretted out and back to filing again.

 Fiberglas don't taste too good after a while even with a mask.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 07, 2014, 07:20:11 pm
treat time
Aft section of a model I am using for a build  reference. Cheers Derek
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: marinemole on October 07, 2014, 08:02:15 pm
Looking good. Glad to see that you are taking precautions over dust. Fibreglass is lethal stuff.


Andy
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 08, 2014, 03:52:55 pm
Hi Andy
I wore a top of the range mask which even traps fumes. Also I worked on the hull outside hence all the pictures on the Workmate The hull has finally all it's parts cut to shape.

pic 1 Drilling out aft freeing ports
pic 2 Opened them up with the Dremel
pic 3 Filing them to shape
pic 4 Almost there little more filing to do
pic 5 Starting to drill portholes
pic 6,7 Hull finished cut to it's shape..hopefully.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 14, 2014, 11:10:47 am
More on the build.
pic 1. I had to make up a rig to pull the hull to the correct width of 8.25 inches (old money)
pic 2. Used a profile gauge to get the inside shape of the hull for the ribs.
pic 3. Then transferred it to card. As the gauge was 4 inches long I had to take staggered profiles till I had the full shape from top
          of port side deck  round to the starboard deck top.
pic 4. Joined these cards pieces together and made full cardboard frames.
pic 5,6. Started to fine trim the cardboard frames 3 off their final shape. The hull is still in the jig at this time.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 20, 2014, 11:40:31 am
Frames

pic1 Final shape of frames in plywood

pic 2,3,4 Offered into position little trim or gusset fill  here and there.

pic 5, 6 Fiberglass / resin  into position. Looks nice and square.

Centers of ply removed but not to loose weight but access to parts of model when deck is fitted 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 30, 2014, 08:54:45 am
pic 1. glued in some deck supports with square obeshi  just to see whats what about deck level After a visit ti Scotia its confirmed there is a little lip above deck so the wood is at the correct height
pic 2 . Rudder support on outside of hull. It was shaped like the rudder and had taper outwards up to the hull. got this taper by adjusting my sander table to 45% doing as much of it while still attached to the piece of wood in photo. Cut to size the  little that was left done  carefully as I didn't need a manicure.
pic 3. finished part glued into position clamped till set. Couple of coats of sandsealer to finish
pic4. Rudder shaft drilled and pieces brass rod soldering in to give support
pic. 5. Rudder shape cut out
pic6. Rudder clamped n vice overnight to cure
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 30, 2014, 06:29:33 pm
pic 1. resined a piece of ply to strengthen the area where rudder is and fitted brass tube and washer in position. The tube is a sliding fit over the rudder tube. The  washer  with another washer and greased between then as a swivel platform.
pic 2. Both resined in place
pic 3. Sawed the top of the earth pin on a 13 amp plug. Made a servo rudder arm from brass flat, drilled a holes for rudder tube and servo linkage holes. Tinned assembly
pic 4. Used vice as heatsink. Then soldered the two together using loads of heat. A brass rod used to keep the holes in line.
pic 5. Rudder unit finished with lots of coats applied to the balsa wood part of rudder to give strength. Should have maybe used ply.
pic 6. Finished rudder assembly in place. Center brass tube top cut to size and a sliding piece of brass rod glued inside tube down inside rudder for rigidity.

Note I have to keep the rudder arm low as possible because of the  slip way angle
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 01, 2014, 11:07:10 am
Motor coupling shaft installed. Motor is a Sun 555, shaft too long cut to size. Hugo coupling 4mm pain coupling side and 4mm threads prop size. I prefer direct drive but any problems I'll change to a 3:1 drive using HPC Gears,Chesterfield. Pulleys and ribbed drive belt as on the Meteor.

pic 1. Shaft and coupling. The coupling has been glued dead straight and used to line up motor/ shaft
pic 2. Shaft was too long. Steel shaft removed and brass tube cut to size. Bearing remove from unwanted tube part  refitted to shaft making correct length
pic 3. Parts that were cut 
pic 4. Hole drilled in bras tube and using piece of scrap tubing an oil feed made
pic 5. A small dimple made in shaft to retain grub screw from coupling
pic 6. Same with motor shaft. I've has shaft slip in the past but none since i used this method.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 01, 2014, 07:45:22 pm
pic 1. Drive system completed ready to go into model. A Raboesch 50mm 4 blade 4mm threads prop fitted with a Robbe mount
pic 2. Sits nice in the little hollow in hill bottom.
pic 3. Shaft in position aft section filled with araldite to secure
pic 4. Suppression capacitors fitted. This takes care of noise from the motor Made up of one 0.047uf and two 0.1uf  caps
pic 5. Test in bath pulling 5 amps. On full power against its own prop wash and held steady. Amps may be less once in the pond
pic 6. Rudder and prop fully fitted and looks right to plan . Will put a coat of resin and tissue over rudder to give more strength

The motor was brought to its level by a layer of P38 bed. When this had set a little tap on the motor to remove it, then a layer of resin on the P38 to seal it. When dry motor replaced with a layer of resin and tissue covering the mount to fix it to the hull. This lets me remove the motor with a light cut on the tissue with a dremel. Should i need to change to 3:1 gearing
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on November 01, 2014, 09:43:54 pm
Still tagging along with your build - some interesting techniques being used here O0 :-))
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 02, 2014, 08:18:22 am
Cheers Ray appreciated  :-))

I meant to mention the Robbe mount was used because it has a big open front area down the middle. Which will help in allowing the motor to get a air flow through it for cooling. If not I'll fit a cooling coil. I replace the cheese head slotted screws with Allen bolts and spring washers as its easier to get them out and in, in a confined space.

Rubber servo fitting tomorrow. 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 11, 2014, 05:13:37 pm
The rudder servo

pic 1. One piece of square wood  bearer at the back and two on the front was enough to have the servo  sit level in the model. Back one glued to rib using PVA and the front to hull using araldite later a little resin.

pic 2. Checking servo is lined up with the rudder.

pic 3. Link rods fitted. Note the clips are metal to plastic and plastic to metal and the north and south servo arm removed to stop fowling with the other two when turning. Links  bent low going to the rudder to clear  the slipway
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Post by: Seaspray on November 12, 2014, 03:17:11 pm
Pics 1. and 2.
Wasn't happy with the inside of the hull where the battery will be. So I resined a layer of tissue in place

Pic 3. Out with the profile gauge again to get the right shape for the battery platform cross bearers.

Pic 4. The bearers being made.

Pic 5. With the bearers glued to the platform they were then glued to the hull in the right place Near midships and centered. Battery used as weight

Pic 6, Straight line used and its looks good to me.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: thething84 on November 13, 2014, 02:51:27 am
Hey. build is looking great. Now looking to get a profile gauge. never really thought of having one in the box. I just cut a piece of cardboard and kept trimming it till I got the profile. A gauge would make it a lot easier.

On a side not. Laying the gel cell on its side is fine but they are not weighted the same on the side. You will find the c of g is not about the middle of the batter side on.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 13, 2014, 09:09:15 am
Hi thething84

Cheers mate. Yea I know the gell cell is heavier on the top but with everything in line below decks its a starting point to ballast the model when completed. I did this idea with the Meteor  and it can turn fast. Saying that ( Scotia) she sits straight up on in the bath as can be seen in the following pic. This time its a 6 volt battery sitting up and it is only pulling about 2.5 amps
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Post by: Seaspray on November 13, 2014, 05:30:41 pm
pic 1. Finished off battery tray  by adding pieces of square wood all round.  Two curtain hooks and a elastic band  to stop battery moving. The esa was screwed to cross 2 bearers with servo screws and these were glued to a piece of ply alardited to the hull.

pic 2. Wires from esa. right one taped up to enable BEC mode on esa. Left one given couple coats of black marker pen and varnished.  No excuse for wrong connections to battery now.

pic 3. Drilling out holes and counter sinks on angle plasticard for the bilge  keels

pic 4. Trimming off screws in hull.

pic 5.  The heat in the screws melted the plasticard keel and the screw popped out. Got away with           
          only having to make one keel
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: thething84 on November 13, 2014, 09:53:32 pm
lol. Just checking. I didn't realise it till someone mentioned it on here. Obviously had to go a check myself lol. Looking good though. Wish I had a designated place to build model. I have to keep getting stuff out then putting it away so sorta puts me off doing little bits. along with having a nearly 3 yr old makes it difficult to do it.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 14, 2014, 08:20:38 am
Been there regards a young family. I used a folding card table in my day.I even had a i.c. engine test mount on it and ran up my old Frog ..80 diesel on it. Great days eh.. But I do know a modeller that builds his models on the kitchen table and they are award winning models.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 15, 2014, 07:19:15 pm
The rubbing ribs made from 5mm half round plasticard with a taper each end

pic 1. Ribs cut to size
pic 2. A little roughing up for the araldite to grip.
pic 3. 3 Rubbing  strips fitted port side and damaged bilge keel removed new one glued and screwed into position.
pic 4. 4 Rubbing strips fitted starboard side and original bilge  keel not damaged
pic 5. Inside of hull becomes the bulwark and was rough looking needed attention.
pic 6. A layer of P38 applied and rubbed down looks a lot better. Will check later with a spray of primer


Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 21, 2014, 09:26:58 am
Pics 1. & 2. Got some strips of obechi and glued two pieces of 6mm x 3mm together to use as deck bearers

Pic 3. Lots of claps used to make sure the bearers are well stuck closely to the hull inside using araldite.

pic 4. Bearers in glued in position in aft section

pic 5. Deck bearer clamped on stern using a piece of the deck ply to give the correct distance from the scupper

pic  6. Couple of pieces of cardboard in place to give an idea to how the decking ply pieces will be laid out for access to the running gear. Up on main / forecastle  decks is a photo copy of the plan to help with layout of cofferdam and bridge decks
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 22, 2014, 05:11:59 pm
Just finished building the area the trawl door gallows are stored. There were built using plasticard and I've decided to rebuild them using wood. Not a plasticard fan.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 25, 2014, 06:08:19 pm
o.k. all change to wood

pic 1. Drilling out the slot for the scuppers the usual precaution of backing wood to stop splintering as the drill breaks through.
pic 2. Half way on into  the assembly
pic 3. rebuilt and glued into position just some filling and tidying up.
pic 4. Clamps every where to give nice tight joint to hull. This is the rest of the aft working deck bearers. When dry I'll make a cardboard template from which I'll  make  the wooden deck.

Now that I know the deck high I can now go ahead and build the slipway . It will be full enclosed in case I reverse the model and it acts as a scoop pouring water into the model.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Mad Scientist on November 26, 2014, 10:42:50 pm
Wow! It appears that we have found someone who actually has enough clamps! %%

Tom
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: thething84 on November 27, 2014, 02:15:20 am
i think the correct term is not someone who has enough clamps mad scientist. Its someone who can find enough clamps from the mass of clamps he knows he has somewhere. I have loads of clamps here and there but i'll be darned if i can find enough when i want them.
 
Still tagging along. Coming along nicely
 
James.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on November 27, 2014, 02:51:12 pm
I would be careful to make sure the ramp is fully sealed , as in all stern trawlers with a ramp in any chop ( even running over other boats wash ) you will get water coming up the ramp , once she's in the water another thing to watch out for is going from full ahead to zero power as the prop wash will catch up and run right up the ramp if you simply shut the motor off , she has a storm gate with a roller on top at the top of the ramp it might be an idea to model this in the up position so you limit any water up onto the main deck ( unless of course you want working net drums/winches and tow a net )
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 27, 2014, 04:31:56 pm
Mad Scientist

 More clamps used I've 20 in all. Got feed up with using the spring type cloths pegs so went for it.

thething84

You'll have to have a place for everything (tools) like me. Of course it took decades of looking for my tools before this to click.

Davie

Yes I've had a look at this. I am  gluing the slipway as one unit and then offering it into the the model and resined and fiberglass it to the stern.  But there is a problem between the top of the slipway and the removable aft working deck. Its the area between the Castles right at where the deck underside meets the slipway top. They'll be a gap there. I was thinking of a seal in that area like I did on the Meteor or maybe best sealed all round this lower deck with glued rubber bands on top of the bearers. A couple of screws or small bolts on top of deck with captured nuts  under the bearer tightened may do the trick . Nice to hear from you

I don't think I am going as far as working gear on her. But wish I had the skill to do it

pic 1.  More clamps l.o.l. raising frame one to the deck height
pic  2. Bearer on frame one Not too caring how the model looks below decks as long as it is neat and square above
pic  3. bearers glued all round rear section nice and straight




 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on November 27, 2014, 04:59:43 pm
Thinking back the storm gate was always raised apart from the time to shoot or haul the gear back , its a safety system for the crew to make sure they don't get washed down the ramp

(http://pstew.co.uk/shipphotos/scotia2.jpg)
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 27, 2014, 07:29:53 pm
Davie

Looking at your picture I am considering the two bulwarks up to including the ramp around the slipway area, Will be glued to the hull and not removable. Something to ponder on over next couple of days.   
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on December 15, 2014, 06:13:05 pm
Starting to build the anchor
Pic 1 The picture of the anchor on the real Scotia and it's looks tricky to do considering it scale size
pic 2 Cut parts getting ready to glue together and its my pet hate again plasticard
pic 3 Parts glued together and looking half reasonable lookalike
pic 4 Tacked part  to some plasticard offered up to see if they look o.k. in position. Will clean up the open area with a file and  wet n dry before final gluing part in position with araldite
pic 5  As a precaution I resined the back of the plasticard to the hull incase the glue didn't hold  up.
pic 6  Clamps again holding the tacked breastplate in position while glue dries used araldite
pic 7  Glued dry clamps off and a strip of tissue/ resin underneath plate applied to make sure it won't move. It will support the deck
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on December 15, 2014, 11:57:54 pm
As a precaution I resined the back of the plasticard to the hull incase the glue didn't hold  up.

That's a great idea - I'll add that one to the old notebook :-))
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on December 16, 2014, 09:12:03 am
Cheers Ray

But I am not happy with the anchors or the openings for them. The area the anchor sit in is recessed. So its a strip job.   {:-{

 I'll switch to wood construction for  anchors and recess.  :} The anchors are broader too. 

All good fun eh !!!
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on December 23, 2014, 09:33:45 am
Manage to get the plasticard off  inside the hull by cutting into the tissue just in time before the resin cured. Will sand the hull inside round this area as it is uneven. Put a chamfer on the outer edges of the anchor cutout and build the recessed part that the anchor sits in  But I'll wait till after Xmas and the new year celebrations. All the best in 2015 to all.

martin
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: marinemole on January 16, 2015, 03:55:02 pm
Not sure if you have managed to fit in your expedition to photograph the ship. Lachie Stewart shot albums of photographs of the ship while under construction at Fergusons. I have scanned a first batch and uploaded them to Photobucket. Following your build with interest.


Andy


See


http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,49862.0.html (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,49862.0.html)
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on January 16, 2015, 08:19:19 pm
Andy
Cheers great picture to add to ones I have for further reference . Many thanks  :-))

 Keep them coming as I have areas that I didn't manage to photograph. haven't sorted mine yet.

Just finished doing the anchor and recess in wood this time. Taking me a while to get back into it.

Have been talking with Bluebird about the best way to build decks to gain entry to all the running gear, Looks like the slipway and the 2 castles will be glued to the hull making it water tight at the aft end. With the rest of the deck with cabins removable

Martin
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on January 21, 2015, 03:32:47 pm
The anchors recess I built them on a black plate rather than do a recess and glue them in later. This time there in wood.

pic 1 starting the build on a backplate of plywood
pic 2 the box section in which the anchor sit in
pic 3 the inside section finished and  squares of wood  glued around outer edge of backplate to fit  neatly to the shape of the  anchor hole cut in the hull
pic 4,5  Looks about right port  and starboard sides
pic  6  Bit messy but a little resin and tissue applied to the inside. Just in case the pop off as it would be a hard job refitting them with the deck glue in position to top of the breast plate
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on January 25, 2015, 01:47:10 pm
I have resined and fiberglassed  the main deck supports and the breast hook as I've done with the anchors. It would be a tricky job to repair these if they popped off.

pic 1 Basic template cut roughly out
pic 2 Template in model and to get a perfect fit I add further piece of card slide up slight against all sides then taped. As you can see half way through the job
pic 3 From the finished template the ply deck is cut out and with a little  trimming here an there to fit.
pic 4 You seem this before but this is the completed template to the correct size and shape. The ply deck will be cut from this later tonight.
pic 5  The fiberglass strips  supporting the  deck supports
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on January 29, 2015, 05:32:27 pm
Building the slipway which will be glued in position and  to the underneath of the deck and sealed with resin and f/b. This part of the model will have a cut across  the deck from port to starboard just in front of the castles and will be glued permanently in position. The rest of this deck will be removal  to get into the running gear. 

pic 1 taking a tracing from the plan to get an idea of the angle and length of slipway.
pic 2 offered card to the opening of the slipway to get width.
pic 3 the two sides made from card.
pic 4 card mockup offered into position slight adjustment to the height at the far deck bearer.
pic 5 from the mockup a wooden slipway is offered into position.
pic 6 checking the deck and top of slipway touch each other ready for gluing. Deck isn't fully resting on the bearers but its a neat fit.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on January 29, 2015, 05:34:36 pm
Ply cut out from template of the main deck. A little hold up here as there is a slight measurement discrepancy. Tricky midships with different deck levels. back to the plans   
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on January 31, 2015, 03:30:26 pm
Should have noticed these areas when I was doing the bow bulwark.  They're the inside of the bulwarks and the rough surfaces will be seen. So I gave them a coat of P38 and rubbed the areas smooth. Just a little here and there might be needed now. I'll finish off with Deluxe Material's Plastic Putty. At the same time I removed the port deck bearers and lined them up better.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 04, 2015, 04:24:03 pm
Work in progress is to strengthen the aft work deck. I used some old, clean and straight  B & Q strips that were lying around. ( size is a bit an over kill )

pics 1 and  2

Mark out the aft rubbing strips and glued 1mm square evergreen plastic in place.

pics 3, 4, 5. 

Slipway is still ongoing haven't really decided on which way to get into running gear. I will have to shorten the the slipway to have room for the swing of the rudder arm  and be able to get to the screw securing arm to rudder shaft on/ off.
 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 05, 2015, 07:09:56 pm
Pic 1 Decided to go this way by cutting out a section over the top of the slipway to get good access into gear and remove deck completely for repairs off boat
Pic 2 The part  that was cut out was glued to the top of the slipway to bring it up to the same level as the aft deck. Notice the slipway has been made shorter so it won't foul the rudder arm swing.
Pic 3 Cut out a template of the slipway bulwarks to length. Can't find a way to the height of it but took a guess measuring a picture I have got.
Pic 4 Template in position and looks good.
Pic 5 Cutting out parts from template
Pic 6 Parts built and put into position. The square wood is to be the safety gate that slides up and down.
Pic 7 Starting to take shape. Round of plastic glued to wood to look like a roller. More to do here 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on February 05, 2015, 08:06:06 pm
There isn't any deck where you've just glued onto , its a ramp up onto the deck and the storm gate come up vertically from the top of the ramp
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on February 05, 2015, 08:11:32 pm
(http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/636/medium/52scotia.jpg)
(http://trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/636/medium/old_photos_041.jpg)
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on February 05, 2015, 08:16:21 pm
(http://pstew.co.uk/shipphotos/scotia2.jpg)

That shows the storm gate in the up position with the roller on top vertical to the deck not horizontal
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: wbeedie on February 05, 2015, 08:36:39 pm
It has the option of a deck above the ramp Davie, look at your last picture, never saw that before but it links in with the plans of a Hydraulic Bouy plate, in line with the stern scuppers
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on February 05, 2015, 09:17:56 pm
its never covered at sea would be far too dangerous for sea slamming up the ramp , I never saw it moved ( paint was never cracked ) and if it was used only once a year max as there was only a single short 7 day trip to recover deep tidal buoys and put new ones back
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: wbeedie on February 05, 2015, 10:08:36 pm
Didnt even know it was there Davie ,always thought it was just the straight ramp
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on February 05, 2015, 10:11:21 pm
I knew the gate was there but in the time I was on her the paint was never touched around it so it had never been used at all
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 06, 2015, 09:27:54 am
Hi Davie, wbeedie   
I knew it wasn't a deck in there as it has to be movable for the slipway to be used. But most photos I seen of her and the photo of the stern including the one I took while she was in Aberdeen has the gate up and say a platform of sort in position.( I think the gate  needs attention). I was happy to fit this part and the gate in the up position because when reversing the model water would rush in up  the slipway and this would stop at least some of the flow  I think this was mentioned somewhere on the thread. Although its no in line with the scuppers this is because I never notice the deck area under the port castle is raised.

See pics
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: wbeedie on February 06, 2015, 09:32:20 am
I knew the gate was there, having seen a following sea while taking the net aboard or shooting, saw how much water came aboard up the ramp, enough to put a man on his backside and begin a slide up then back with water, we had to wear life jackets for that reason, it was the hydraulic plate for the bouys I never knew about though
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 06, 2015, 10:02:22 am
Not happy at the slipway top not in line with the scuppers. But it looks right with the plan and an other Scotia model.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 08, 2015, 06:59:07 pm
Just messed about this weekend trying to get this mid deck correct, as most pictures of models have witches in this area. I'll probably make a ply copy of it and put it to the side. I want to get on with the hull for a spraying up.
 The on going problem of deck(s) removal to get to the running gear is still waiting to be sorted.  {:-{

Pic 1 Tracing of the plan
pic 2 First cut out on card.
pic 3 Final trim  and shaped step up
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 15, 2015, 11:06:52 am
pic 1,2  I've had a relook at the back of the model and did some rework. The bulwark where the trawl door gallows sits were  high. I made new bulwarks  for each side of the hydraulically operated buoy handling door to the same height. Insert a piece of wood to make the whole lot level thru-out. redone the safety gate making it slightly larger. to me looks better.
pic 3,  Added rubbing ribs (strakes) aft
pic 4,5 made a little rough box to blank of the side viewing window on the port side.This'll  be painted white walls green deck glued in place before deck is fitted. Ladders go down to this area so needs to look the part
pic 6 Build this part to fit into the side gate still to trim off. Note the pencil lines below gate. I  still have to make up my mind what to do in with this area. Just spray it brown or build a good lookalike. It is recessed on the Scotia but I am not cutting that area out to make a recess. Also the rubbing strake goes right thru this area and would need to but trimmed off.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 20, 2015, 10:05:39 pm
Side Gate Finished trimming the top wooden part and built the lower part. Used plastic for this as it would be near the water level and would need replacing in a few years if wood used.

pic 1 Built 2 frames to see what was the strongest the square end joint was a lot stronger than the 45% cut one. So I used the square one.
pic 2 When frame's glue dried I made a cardboard template to get a good fit. Centre part fitted using 2mm plastic card. Perfect fit.
pic 3 Scratched up the hull area for a good glue joint and the back of the plastic
pic 4 Both parts glue in position. Plastic part araldite 24  hr. glue used and clamped overnight
pic 5 Wood part supported inside with a strip of resin / tissue

Getting near hull spray time. Need to find a colour at Halfords near  Sky blue RAL 5015. 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 20, 2015, 10:40:03 pm
Forgot I had to remove part of the rubbing strakes to have a nice flat area for the lower part of the side gate to sit right tight to hull. Its on the plan that it run thru the gate. But looking at pictures of Scotia it doesn't

pic 1.2.3. Using the dremel two angles cut out of strake. Centre part removed and then rubbed down with wet n dry
 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 22, 2015, 12:51:05 pm
Just masked up  to spray the hull. I am going to try and spray the hull in one hit by not removing the masking tape till all 3 colours are on the hull.

Pic 1, 2
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: John W E on February 22, 2015, 04:13:56 pm
hi ya my mate, aye your build is looking good!

just out of interest, how does this model compare for overall size against the Meteor?  Is it a similar scale?

aye, watching with interest

aye

john
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 22, 2015, 04:40:46 pm
Hi John
Meteor is 1: 100 and is 95.5 mm long.  Scotia is 1: 76 (ish) and is 92 mm long. They look good size together. I think I've sussed out that middle deck arrangement. I'll be bringing them over in late spring

Nice to hear from you hope your a lot better now.

Martin
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Mark T on February 22, 2015, 05:14:55 pm
Hi Martin


I know its a PITA masking up but in my experience if you don't remove the masking tape whilst the paint is still soft, when you do either the paint will crack at the edges or the tape won't come off.  Just a thought  :-)


Mark
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 22, 2015, 05:48:14 pm
Cheers  Mark

I wouldn't have it on for longer than 3 days as it is a mess to get off. The masking on the model at the moment is only to stop the primer go on to bearers and inner areas that are going to have glue on them. I was hoping to do primer today but it iffy in the shed cause of the rain.

Still pondering to use white or gray primer as the white will make top coat lighter and gray darker.

I think the weather and time of year will have to have each colour done separately with a  day or two between them.

I usually pull the tape off 5 minutes after spraying and pull it into the edge I want to keep sharp
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on March 01, 2015, 10:27:41 am
Little problem spraying the hull. Trying my luck in a cold, damp, dark shed and first thing in the morning didn't work out. At least I knew when to stop before things got really bad. I also had another look at the side gate and reworked it in plastic. A kink in this area of the hull where it was cut out and plastic could take a little bend in it to help loose some of the kink.

pic 1, 2  Hull rubbed down to get rid of all runs and blotches
pic 3, 4  New plastic side gate top glued into place and support with resin / tissue at back.
pic 5  Trying to get a colour match to RAL 5015 Sky Blue. Using the computer screen doesn't give a 100% true colour /shade
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on March 11, 2015, 05:06:32 pm
The small section of blue beside the gate is the closest to the colour she is, its one of these things for some reason it all depends on the time of year and the amount of light she can look dark blue or light blue so right in the middle is as close as you'll get.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on March 11, 2015, 06:30:54 pm
Cheers Dave  :-))
I am getting the same with the model paints So if its the one on the left of the gate painted on the upright plastic card its Revell no 50 and its an oil based paint. The Little square painted part on the large pieces (Ford blues) is the Revell 50. So its telling me to paint on a white primer to get near to the shade. So its back to the search for an acrylic spray as I don't want to hand paint the hull or mix paint types
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on April 27, 2015, 04:35:59 pm
Finally got the outside of the hull painted. I had a lot of trouble trying to get a real white finish on the white top section using white primer after about 4 coats gave up and raised a help on the forum under "Hull paint problems" in Painting Section. Advised to use Appliance White so primed rubbed down the hull again and sprayed it with Appliance White and it had a real white finish I was looking for. Thanks to the members for their help. Then had a lot of bleeding using Halfords masking tape. With help from Stavros advised and bought fine line 3m masking tape. Got  good straight lines using the 3m tape with no bleeding. The blue used on the hull is the nearest colour David Tait referred to I could find to spray on hull

Pic 1 & 2 shows the bleeding which caused a lot of rework on the hull
Pic 3, 4, 5, 6 the hull finished waiting for the paint to cure then a coat of Chestnut satin lacquer.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on April 27, 2015, 04:51:51 pm
and pic 7 inside of gate
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on April 27, 2015, 04:52:45 pm
The colour is spot on , as I said it depended on the time of year and amount of sunlight on the hull but its about as close as anyone will ever get to the colour she is without phoning the painters of the real boat and getting a small tin of their paint ( bit expensive as its all 2 pack epoxy paint they use now lol )
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on May 08, 2015, 06:26:45 pm
Have done a little more lately

Pic 1 & 2 Tidied up the rear bulwarks area couple coats of Tamiya white and black.

Couldn't get the right colour of blue lettering for the name. So I sprayed the name letters with the correct colour from the rattle can blue as on the hull and got a perfect match.

Pic 3 The letters do look like they are the correct colour prespraying but that is just the camera.

Pic 4 & 5  They were stuck to grease proof paper and sprayed removed just after they were dry no cured.

Pic 6 & 7  Masked up to line up letters evenly in the right place

There were  little rough edges on the letters which was rubbed off using a stiff brush gently. I am happy with them
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Post by: cos918 on May 08, 2015, 07:43:12 pm
Hi
looking very good. Like your tip on the letter, must remember that one


john
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on May 08, 2015, 08:45:43 pm
John  :-))

I use another type of paper next time probably smother and shiny  to get a better edge on the letters
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on May 12, 2015, 09:43:27 am
Not much modelling happening with the weather getting better.
Pic 1 fitted the walk way I'll have to remove this to make it deeper as it being too short won't tie up with the ladder/ deck down to it
Pic 2 Sheets of clear plasticard for the porthole and window they have a protective film on them
Pic 3 Pieces cut to shape ready for gluing. I'll use superglue.
Pic 4 Glued and clamp plasticard into position.
Pic 5 & 6 Clamps and film being removed and no glue on the plasticard.

I may paint the the widows / portholes black to stop people looking into the model.
I'll be spending a few weeks working out how to build the mid and aft decks for getting into the running gear   
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 25, 2015, 12:08:31 pm
Not happy with the planned layout of the Scotia.I arranged to go over to Newcastle to see Bluebird (John). I took The Meteor to let John have a look at the finished model as he only had seen it on the Mayhem  build. Then we turned to the layout of the Scotia. After some discussing we decided to start from scratch altering  the running gear cause access to where it was would be a pain to get to fix or service. Also the rear section of the superstructure (Decks) will now be glued down, leaving a 2 inch hatch on the rear work deck. This'll  allow entry to the servo and rudder arm.

pic 1 started with the idea of adding another shaft to the original one. Didn't like this
pic 2, 3  removed both bearings from the shaft
pic 4 started to remove old shaft using the soldering iron. Good job Bluebird advised  me to araldite the original shaft in, it was removed with
        a little coaxing. Had it been resined it would have been a drill job and maybe not so successful.
pic 5 bought a new 16 inch shaft from MBB fitted motor to mount and to a temporary coupling offered into position to see what else needed            to be altered. Cut a notch in centre frame and just managed to fit in,  saves moving ESC
pic 6 Fitted motor to mount using stainless steel countersunk screws, nyloc nuts, washers,
pic 7, 8 secured screws by cutting a staple in two, drilling a hole next to the screw head inserting the half staple down the hole and into the
            screw slot with a touch of araldite to secure
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 25, 2015, 05:31:48 pm

I've got on with fitting motor and batteries. bought an aligning tool from MBB and they made up a 16 inch shaft 4mm inner steel shaft and 6.5 outer brass case. This'll fit nicely into the old shaft hole in hull. It had a  centre bearing fitted to stop whiplash also an oiler. Haven't made up my mind weather batteries are going to be in  series or parallel.

pic 1 aligning tool fitted, motor/ shaft in position leaving a good amount of thread for prop to screw on and clearance from ESC
pic 2  motor glued in and  flexible coupling/ motor / shaft in permanent position. Battery tray made from scrap wood
pic 3, 4 batteries in place nice and low keeps c of g low. Middle frame just camera angle makes it look cocked

Now the decks   %%
   
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 25, 2015, 08:14:06 pm
couple more pics

pic 1,2  no damage done to area where old shaft was removed so no filling or painting required.

pic 3 Noticed that not all flexible couplings are the same size but I'll make sure I'll  use 40 mm like the aligning tool on the most right
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on September 26, 2015, 01:57:59 pm
Great to see you're still at it Seaspray - looking forward to more of your informative updates.  :-))
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 26, 2015, 02:44:41 pm
Cheers Ray  :-))

Things are now sorted regards the decks and their layout thanks to Bluebird. But first a little test at the pond Sunday.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 27, 2015, 04:46:03 pm
Test run went well no problems. Although sat high in the water (no ballast ) made good speed but will consider a 5 blade prop in the near future
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: ballastanksian on September 27, 2015, 06:59:59 pm
I do like the design of your Model Sea spray. I like the way the bulwarks vary in height all over the place with all the ates and openings.

Are their laboratotries and the like on board or is she just taking readings for quantities of species etc?

I look forward to seeing the superstructure and fittings as you whittle them.

TTFN, Ian:O)
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 27, 2015, 08:22:13 pm
The Tasks
Scotia is used to monitor and evalulate fish stocks by trawling , acoustic surveys, and specialised sampling. The ship is also equiped to carry out state-of-the-art oceanographic in all weather condition, and plays an important role in monitoring the seas around Scotland.

There is container labs on board
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Post by: ballastanksian on September 28, 2015, 11:01:28 am
Thanks for the info. I look forward to your next installment.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Tug Hercules Fireman on September 28, 2015, 07:33:33 pm
Your tip on drilling a hole and using a half-staple to secure screws is a fantastic tip. {I had not seen this idea before.}

Thank You for sharing this one.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 28, 2015, 09:00:27 pm
I just used what is to hand. Sometimes it clicks like it did this time  :-))
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 04, 2015, 03:59:55 am
Spot the difference just realised  it myself.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: derekwarner on October 04, 2015, 04:33:33 am
Appears that the manufacturer put a 50-L-4bl-M4 propeller in the bag labelled 50-R-4bl-M4  :embarrassed:

Interestingly, recent comments on LH or RH propeller selection suggested that LH had certain advantages in manoverability  ...

What is the hand of the propeller in the real vessel?........do you intend to exchange it? or use the LH unit? ... Derek
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Ianlind on October 04, 2015, 10:13:09 am
Apparently the Europeans do it backwards and read the props in reverse to what we do here. They read the rotation from the front!


I just got two Raboesch 50mm LH props from Float a Boat in Melbourne, and they had changed the RH on the header card code to LH in ballpoint pen.


Viewed from the rear, they are LH rotation props.


Hope this makes sense.


Ian.
 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: derekwarner on October 04, 2015, 10:30:38 am
 %).....appears that Raboesch have now adopted the universal UK/American convention for the designation of propeller rotation over the previous European confusion and mis-understanding {-)  of such......  ....

'As if you previously ordered a right sided propeller then you will get the propeller which was previously called a left sided propeller'
 
%%......

Just wondering if Raboesch could simplify this even further by stating RH propellors = Right and LH propellors = Rong

I am also wondering if the VAG could use a similar misunderstanding in the Court?...............Derek
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 04, 2015, 04:03:16 pm
So right is left and left is right, right. Going to be good fun ordering from different suppliers

 I'll just run with servo reversed. Just a thought is an electric motor construction  designed to run (for clarafiction ) clock wise and anti clock wise.

Derek

Scotia has six blades on prop with a little dump on the end of each blade. So somebody in the yard ground  them off and a new blade was the order of the day.

An email from Raboesch said the prop in the picture was a left hand prop.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 09, 2015, 12:14:54 pm
Not much happening at his time enjoying the lovely Scottish weather

Cut an opening out of the deck to get into the servo and rudder arm if needed.  Cleaned and roughened up the the deck bearers inside hull and glued the aft deck in place with weights to keep it down in place

Also been messing about with fiber optics,  considering putting some lighting in the model. Just working out how many strands of F.O. I can get from one LED.

I think the mid deck will be a nightmare to suss out and fit
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: david48 on October 09, 2015, 02:35:07 pm
Hi Seaspray
I have been putting some thought to the fibre optic . I thought I might flatten of the dome on the LED so the cut ends fit better to the LED then use shrink sleeve to hold the fibres together then use shrink sleeve to join them together.
In a former job I looked after sauna sang these had star effect in the black ceiling ,these were fibre opiptic made by Sovorski(maby not the right spelling).There light source shon through a revolving disk with a pattern in it making the lights twinkle . The fibres were all bunched together ,with each fiber having shrink sleeve on it then these were shrunk sleeved on to a short piece of acrylic rod and the hole lot covered in shrink sleeve ,then the light shone at the revolving disk , in this case the lamp was a 12volt dichroic bulb
David
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: g6swj on October 09, 2015, 03:09:30 pm
Hi,

Not sure if you just want light at the end of the optic cable - if not check out "Light Pipe" as it emits light along it's entire length - available if different diameters. Put a controllable RGB LED and you have mood lighting!

Just heat shrink led to cable - this video will give you a snapshot of the effect achievable - a little bit like the toys kids have at concerts/out door parties - except they die after some hours when chemical reaction has finished...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CQnRARsk4E

Cheers
Jonathan
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Brian60 on October 09, 2015, 05:47:10 pm
Looking at those fibres you should not encounter the problem I did. Yours are quite a large diameter, mine were about 1/64th not much larger than a hair. I enclosed them in shrink sleeve and applied light heat, all the fibres melted inside the shrink tube! I'm talking about the heat from a match here, the shrink tube hardly moved but it was enough to damage the fibres.

So a bit of advice for David, don't go too small on the fibre diameter!
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on October 09, 2015, 06:42:08 pm
David48
I've seen two ways of attaching LED to F.O strands. One was file the end of the LED drill a small hole on tip , not too deep to touch the elemant
push strand in the super glue in hole. these were on the Tube

G6SWJ
I did see the light pipe on the Tube too cheers . I was only looking for a light at the end of the strand but if you bend it seems to light up the whole strand. This I would use to light up the hull portholes and cabin lights. I haven't really got into the planning this yet but as well as having a good few strands light up the whole boat Just wonder if the LED strand placed in a deck light would give a good light like a wheat bulb.

Brian60
I have had a lot of problems too with a small lighter flame melting the F.O. strand and I  think  using a soldering iron on a small setting would probably do the same. I think it is a shrink wrap on the LED and try and get as many strands down a smaller tube and insert that into the shrink on the LED then glue the lot together. I also noted some of the guys on the Tube used  this method with a hot glue gun. Wonder if its worth buying one an hope it does for other jobs   

I've been using 0.5mm and 2.5mm strands Bought these on the Bay wonder if there are good quality
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on August 25, 2016, 07:56:19 pm
Catchy up here we go

pic 1 tracing of the plan for mid deck
pic 2 transferred to card template
pic 3 template of forecastle deck being trimmed to shape
pic 4 forecastle deck offered up to check fit
pic 5 midship deck template fully traced out and taped up offered up in position didn't half take some sussing out to get the correct shape
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Post by: Seaspray on August 25, 2016, 08:25:12 pm
pic 1 forcastle deck cutout taken from plan front
pic 2 forcastle deck cutout taken from plan rear
pic 3 deck opening traced on to ply deck
pic 4  opening cut out and sanded
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on August 25, 2016, 11:00:34 pm
Great to see you're back with the Scotia - looking forward to yet more of your informative updates.  :-))

Regards,

Ray.
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Post by: Seaspray on August 26, 2016, 12:15:44 pm
cheers Ray  :-))

more today some time all my pics are out of sequence and taken sometime to sort out


Seaspray




Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on August 26, 2016, 05:59:08 pm
pic 1 most models aren't square so i am a big fan of using templates to get the right shape little adjustment here
pic 2 3 decks surfaces offered up for a check they're fitting
pic 3 Decks glued and side structures fitted
pic 4 top view of previous pic
pic 5 parts to make the 3 doors and little unit om working deck
pic 6 parts glued in place
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on August 26, 2016, 10:24:20 pm
Lovely bit of woodwork there Martin - the deck levels are appearing to gel nicely. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
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Post by: ballastanksian on August 26, 2016, 10:38:24 pm
Yes and it looks very complicated. Great progress  :-))
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on August 27, 2016, 08:48:14 am
I had a little nudge from Bluebird regards the deck layouts and took a few attempts

pic 1 marking out the workdeck planking
pic 2 planking fitted on  on workdeck
pic 3 Also made planking for the sidegate  work area
pic 4 workdeck fits the cabin area and the doors have been glued in place
pic 5 the famous teabag mixed with coffee to give a stained affect
pic 6 the 2 deck stained and put in place
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: ballastanksian on August 28, 2016, 08:15:16 pm
Those are interesting deck shapes the designers threw into the product, they look good.
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Post by: Seaspray on August 29, 2016, 08:57:02 am
More shapes to come and the winches and cranes on her. All good fun especially from a builder's plan

cheers
Seaspray
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Post by: Seaspray on September 01, 2016, 09:09:58 am
The little control cabin for the crane above it

pic 1 From a piece of spare wood was marked out ready to shape
pic 2 Shaped using the sander nice and straight edges
pic 3 The wood split don't know why as it has been under my workdeck for years. glued and clamped
pic 4 Finished the repair by cutting a groove along the split and filling with P38 primed and looks good
pic 5 Offered to the sprayed up midships deck looks right
pic 6 Using insulation tape I cut out the windows
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: ballastanksian on September 01, 2016, 09:29:58 pm
I suppose that after years of being left to its own devices, the strains of being machined just releases the stresses in the wood and it lets go. I beleive that Cast iron needs time to relax as well after you machine it.
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Post by: Seaspray on September 02, 2016, 08:05:35 am
First time I've had this wood spilt on me and the first time I've shaped it  with the sander so your right. Its originally from the inside of a delivered washing machine it steadies the concrete weight inside it during transport and its very old piece of wood. Guess I was just unlucky but it glued back together no problem
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Post by: Seaspray on September 07, 2016, 09:12:01 am
Some pictures of further work on the model. The safety rails/ wall on the slipway

pic 1 template to get an idea of layout
pic 2 first section offered up
pic 3 part built up and brass wire for the railings
pic 4 glued into position also note the working deck planking finished
pic 5 midship section fitted and sprayed up starboard side
pic 6 port side  cabins sprayed up and a coat of varnish on planking
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Post by: Seaspray on September 09, 2016, 03:18:30 am
The side doors in the little work area

pic 1 offering things up to see how they would look including the planking
pic 2 outer frame on building board scrap pieces of wood are to support the sliding door
pic 3 big door done I scored the face of the wood to give the impression of slats
pic 4 small door to left done same way with the third door added
pic 5 This is what I've used to punch portholes in insulation tape near enough correct size
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Post by: Capt Podge on September 09, 2016, 09:34:46 pm
I like the scoring of the wood "slats" - very good idea. O0

Likewise, I also used same hole punch, with acetate, to obtain "glass" for portholes. :-))

Looking good Seaspray.

Regards,

Ray.
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Post by: Seaspray on September 10, 2016, 10:09:55 am
cheers Ray

 all the pictures of the build are allover the shop as the computer crashed and some lost I'll manage one more part of the build on mayhem during the week then off for a month another bloody op at hospital


seaspray
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Post by: ballastanksian on September 11, 2016, 06:13:40 pm
Oh dear on both counts.I hope your Operation goes smoothly. Your current work looks good.
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Post by: Seaspray on September 12, 2016, 10:19:43 am
me to l.o.l might get some bits of build on mayhem before op day monday cheers
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 25, 2017, 08:24:36 pm
I've found the problem which I was having measurement differences I have a plan on the memory stick, DVD, a hard printed copy and one on the Scotia build file on the computer. Now that it is sorted I'll stick to the printed copy This has caused a lot of rework on the model  I won't go into all the parts that were rebuilt but start on the forecastle deck. It was sitting too high and I hardly had any bulwark on the forecastle deck. This was removed from model and so was the bearers they were then dropped 3 mm to the correct height  refitted The hull is made of thick fiberglass which was a bonus as it didn't break or crack and everything went  back together easy pezy I also reshaped and fitted a new breast plate again it was at the wrong height

Pic 1 removal of the deck
Pic 2 deck removed and also  breast plate
Pic 3 inside of model clean up sanded smooth
Pic 4 new deck cut out resprayed and fitted
Pic 5 nice fit on lower deck
Pic 6 Forecastle deck with some bulwark supports fitted



Pic 4
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on June 25, 2017, 10:31:10 pm
Hi Seaspray - it's great to see you back on here, hope all went ok with the operation.

The deck removal must have been an absolute nightmare decision to make. :o

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 26, 2017, 08:42:16 am
Ray
There was a lot of parts needed to be reworked or rebuilt on the model you'll see as we go on into the build and got to the stage where I just walked away and sorted the problems out a few months later.

The ops went well (cheers) just another two to go
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Post by: Seaspray on June 27, 2017, 09:09:04 am
The build of the two masts
pic 1 side of radar mast cut out from plan
pic 2 winch house mast cut from plan
pic 3 the rear of the masts have oval holes in their structure this was done by starting the holes with drills and finishing off with a round file to the correct size
pic 4 the two masts ready for assembly
pic 5 radar mast built
pic 6 winch mast stripped for rework with the radar mast to follow. the rework I've done on the model is unreal
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 27, 2017, 08:55:16 pm
Radar Mast
pic 1 first build looks o.k.
pic 2 Sprayed up and what a load of rubbish it turned out to be
pic 3 Stripped down ladder included they were cleaned up in a container of cellulose
pic 4 That Dermal I thought twice of buying has come into its own takes a little time to get the skill to use the round sanding pads as if you don't get it right there all over the shop
pic 5 & 6 Rebuilt sanded refill any bad bits then final spray with a coat of satin varnish Front n back views
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Post by: John W E on June 27, 2017, 09:10:22 pm
Looking good my mate  :-)) :-))

how's you, long time no see or hear  :-)
john
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on June 27, 2017, 10:19:26 pm
the rework I've done on the model is unreal

...But well worth the extra effort required to model the boat to your satisfaction. O0

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 28, 2017, 05:48:28 pm
Hi John
Things looking good now for both of us hope your good cheers mate

Hi Ray
Your right making a poor job just ain't any joy
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 28, 2017, 06:52:36 pm
Rebuild off front mast
pic 1 Looked at this surface with raise grain I decided to rebuild
pic 2 tried my luck at filling with P38  complete waste of time
pic 3 rebuild started with the base of the mast
pic 4 base completed and looked a lot better
pic 5 new parts cut out and base ready for assembly
pic 6 & 7  rebuilt and sprayed up front and back view

Still wondering where all those lost pics went and hopefully I've the build sequence in order
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Post by: Seaspray on June 29, 2017, 10:59:40 am
Life rafts canisters

They were made the same way as on the Meteor
pic 1 this is how I cut things to the same size
pic 2 I then round the ends in the drill
pic 3 add thin strip of styrene to give it the canister shape just glue one end and leave for a while as they'll come off if you bend them right away
pic 4 finished life raft on the plan they look like almost sitting on the deck hence the little square support platform  but looking at a picture of them on the boat they have legs in each corner more rework  {:-{
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Post by: Seaspray on July 03, 2017, 07:00:46 pm
Started to make up the bollards and found out that the punch didn't cut the styrene in pic 1
pic 2 took my round file and cleaned up the inside of the punch turning the drill very slowly
pic 3 used the flat file to make a better sharp angle again turning the drill slowly
pic 4 some assembled parts ready to glue up
pic 5 all parts built and painted included is the air vents for behind the funnel

I also reworked the liferaft canisters
pic 6 a quick made up jig the make all square and right sizes
pic 7 the 3 liferafts with their frames built ready for painting
pic 8 rafts on the frames and painted they look o.k. will glue up tomorrow
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Post by: Seaspray on July 06, 2017, 10:36:38 am
The Provision Crane
Getting short on modelling wood using old wood from the stash
pic 1 working out the sizes using the plan I needed to put the base in the drill and sand it down to 11mm the boom was o.k. done on the sander
pic 2 the base was built using ply and washers to look like the flanges
pic 3 the boom further into the build with the end  glued in place and the guides on top fitted
pic 4 all the part laid out on plan and look good to me boom didn't have guides fitted yet
pic 5 parts glued and sanded up looks nice and clean
pic 6 ladder and gantry solder up and fitted in position
pic 7 sprayed up and  swl  decal added port side
pic 8 all decals and a varnish coat added managed to get a reasonable surface finish of well used crane but wood is old and bit rubbish
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on July 06, 2017, 09:57:45 pm
Well, the end result justifies the means - and the crane certainly looks the part. :-)

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on July 07, 2017, 12:28:02 pm
The Hatches
pic 1 parts cut and laid out for assembly
pic 2 two hatches build others in clamps
pic 3 two of the  small  hatches one clamped and one assembled
pic 4 laid out in their places on the forcastle deck

The dogs I think this is what they are called well they are on a naval ship's doors
pic 5 this is how I cut items to the same size using a jig this time its a piece of ply the thickness I require
pic 6 made from brass rod and bent to the shape needed and 3 soldered up
pic 7 couldn't think of a way to hold them while spraying them so gently stuck them to masking tape sprayed black then a coat of varnish waited a day to dry turned them over and repeated the process
pic 8 dogs ??? fitted to the hatches a reasonable likeness hopefully

Ray
I feel the build quality in a little down compared to the Meteor build cheers

Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on July 08, 2017, 07:11:15 pm
The Funnel
pic 1 all the parts laid out with the base built
pic 2 funnel part being built all nice at this stage
pic 3 both parts built even nicer looking
pic 4 base offered into deck position to adjust to fit squiggly line says somethings wrong cut the base length down to correct size and had to cut a piece out of the hull to male it  right size too  this is using the 3 plans backfiring
pic 5 the rework has started again what a mess the wood and spraying look like
pic 6 scraped paint back to the wood and sanded  smooth added a  coat of p38 sanded again to the wood now the green deck needs the same treatment
pic 7 started building the rear ladder
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on July 14, 2017, 04:40:12 pm
Continuing rework on funnel
pic 1 back to bare wood sealed rubbed down and brass fitting refitted rear
pic 2 fitting the front of ladder look a lot better now front
pic 3 ladder fitted and painted by brush prior to spraying up
pic 4 the funnel logo a round piece of ply cut to shape and sprayed I took me a wee while to realise  it was a fish
pic 5 fully sprayed up and a coat of varnish added
pic 6 funnel offered into it's position stb side
pic 7 in position port side
pic 8 One for Martin Mayhem See you can use araldite without it gong all over the place l.o.l.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on July 14, 2017, 09:22:17 pm
Moving on at last

Gooseneck vents these are square welded ones on the boat not just bent in a half circle as many are on the net

pic 1 made three mock ups to check scale as there is nothing on plan to work to
pic 2 selected the middle one from using picture of the boat cut to size looked o.k. I need a lot and will try my hand at molding them little sanding and clean up before
pic 3 This is the etching for the ladders steps and sanctions a friend done the CAD and PPD Ltd  in Lochgilphhead Argyll did the etching they also did the etching for the Meteor
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on July 14, 2017, 10:03:33 pm
That funnel looks great Seaspray - makes all the difference to the model and probably will inspire you to keep at it. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on July 15, 2017, 08:33:16 am
Ray  :-))

Yep were in top gear now regards model boat building all ops done now or the ones they could do  Got out of hospital Thursday and its down to the sports centre soon and get fit. More of the build  on the forum tonight

Wish I had met bluebird many  decades ago I recon I would be a master builder by now (hopefully) 
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on July 16, 2017, 10:45:21 am
Life Raft Davits and Funnel Crane
pic 1 from the plan but it seems to be an old drawing so I worked from a picture taken on board
pic 2 all the parts cut out for assembly
pic 3 the 2 davits and funnel cranes assembled also a fitted the securing straps on the life rafts foreground

just the 3 build pics as the computer crashed but a bonus of pics inside her engine room. When we were up on deck talking about the engines i was told the engines were running and running backward there was hardly and vibration in the engine room
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Post by: Seaspray on July 17, 2017, 08:28:50 am
The Bin
pic 1 starting to assemble bin get things nice and square
pic 2 when marking up I like to use the knife for marking as it get a lot closer to the job and leaves a thin line
pic 3 bin frame completed
pic 4 template used to make a mock up of hopper
pic 5 ply parts cut from the templates
pic 6 hopper glue up
pic 7 fitting the platform and support legs
pic 8 ladder fitted awaiting spraying
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: ballastanksian on July 17, 2017, 03:55:34 pm
The detail and effort you are putting into your Scotia is impressive. The ladders and handles are especially good.
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Post by: Seaspray on July 17, 2017, 04:53:54 pm
Hi ballastanksian

Cheers lots of hold backs and rework but its coming together. Got the hull in 2009 and I think this is another 10 year build like the Meteor l.o.l.

More of the build on forum tonight (hopefully)
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Post by: Seaspray on July 17, 2017, 06:25:24 pm
Bin and Guard continued

pic 1 starting to shape the guard from the plan
pic 2 guard soldered up what a mess stripped down resoldered
pic 3 guard offered up into place holes in  deck predrilled
pic 4 bin and guard in place looks o.k. but a lot more work in this area to do
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: ballastanksian on July 18, 2017, 09:35:20 pm
She'll be worth the time spent with all those brass structures alone.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on July 18, 2017, 09:56:33 pm
Cheers ballastanksian

just working on the bridge soon on forum
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on July 31, 2017, 05:36:28 pm
Cofferdam Deck

pic 1 is the plan of the cofferdam deck and base of bridge deck
pic 2 I tried to make the windows by drilling out round the edge then file to the window frame line try 1
pic 3 then I tried to remove the wood from inside the window frame line with a wood chisel  try 2
I opted for try 1 as I found that the rear of the chiseled out windows try 2 the ply was splitting
pic 4 std side frame into position and started to glue up round the corner
pic 5 port and std and back frame glued up fitting like a glove
pic 6 front support brace fitted and all glued up and clamped
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on July 31, 2017, 09:32:53 pm
Getting the windows cut out is something that many of us struggle with. My preferred method is the chain-drilling then filing to the edges and finishing the corners with either flat or round files (depending on the type of window aperture that is being cut out).

Your efforts are showing promise of another fine model. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on August 01, 2017, 09:04:40 am
Ray  :-))
I prefer the chain file method as you can take your time and alter the file if need be. I think I've made a little measurement mistake on the bridge windows and the railings are not high enough but i am working on that by either getting stanchions a little bigger or solder two together to get the height Alternatively I need to glue some square pieces of wood blocks to the gantry ( have rebuilt this twice) so the stanchions will sit a little higher on the gantry. I'll give James Lane a bell to see what he has that might be a better course.

Anyway you'll see what i mean when I get to the bridge build soon. Can't wait to finish the Scotia as I will start building the Kontio Icebreaker and its from plank of frame hull full scratch build  I really drop myself into it at times   
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Post by: Seaspray on August 05, 2017, 02:20:23 pm
Having to make about 16 + goosenecks and they're shaped like the one moulded I decided to have a go at casting This is different to the casting I know of using resins

pics 1 Is the moulding plastic product called Blue Stuff
pic 2  I was going to use this mix ExPoPutty (mainly used  for aquariums) but decided to use Muliputt as it was cheaper for first tries of moulding
pic 3  Comes in stick of 4 or 8 which you pop in to very hot water for a few minutes
pic 4  I decided to use the wooden master for trial purposes
pic 5  Is the moulded piece on the left in Muliputt. Very happy with a first go and will clean up the wooden master

When  finished moulding  this shape you  can put the Blue Stuff back into hot water and reuse it A point to watch is to have your work area really clean as not to pick up rubbish off surface

A write up

Blue Stuff sticks is a new generation of thermo plastic molding material which can be reduced to mouldable conditions by inmmersion in hot water during 3 minutes. It will allow you to create an instant mold of any piece you wanted by pressing the plastic material against the piece you want to have the mold made from.
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Post by: Capt Podge on August 05, 2017, 09:34:10 pm
That doesn't look too bad.

For a quick-fix it looks to be a good idea but, I'm curious to know how many moulded parts you would get from the one "impression" before needing to make another copy of the master ?

...just thinking out loud, so to speak. :embarrassed:

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on August 05, 2017, 10:15:22 pm
Ray
I think you would be able to make a good amount anyway you could  make a new mould in the in ten minutes its just a case of boiling the kettle and put the old moulded part in the hot water for a few minutes then repress the master in place
Just got to let the first part get cold before you press the second part which should be done hot . Muliputt goes in each half of the mould then compressed together gives you plenty of time

Time will tell
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Post by: Capt Podge on August 05, 2017, 10:18:16 pm

Time will tell


 O0 :-)) :-))

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on August 06, 2017, 04:42:11 pm
Still work on the Cofferdam / Bridge decks

pic 1 top cut out sanded and fitted note the sturdy piece of ply in the front
pic 2 middle supports templates cut out  the ply doing its job
pic 3 from the templates the ply supports are cut out
pic 4 further template to aid in cutting out the front out
pic 5 wooden supports glue in position and ply front cut out
pic 6 MK 1 front cross sections for support and in 3 parts to allow for angle front there is a camber there to.
pic 7 on the plan for to get the angle and camber right tricky
pic 8 windows marked out looks o.k. but later on in the build I had to alter them because of the angle /camber         the outside windows were to high.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on August 17, 2017, 08:14:59 pm
The Bridge
pic 1 Using the Blue stuff and the Epo putty /muliputt I made a few samples of the goosenecks these are the 4  up on the left. I made  more from wooden dowel it was quicker because the curing time for the muliputt/ epo putty was overnight. I think this was due to having to stay in the mould. Not really into casting but this could be a handy method of making parts The edges of the blue stuff after 4 copies didn't have any wear Anyway a new mould could be made in 15 minutes
pic 2 How easy it was to make a gooseneck using wooden dowel just 3  45 degrees cuts.
pic 3 The rise from the cofferdam deck for the bridge floor
pic 4 Cutting out the Windows using the fret saw method
pic 5 The 3 front bridge walls cut out sanding and mated up
pic 6 The bridge floor with the overhangs fitted sanded ready for the wall also the   superstructure in place  on the model to check its a good fit
pic 7 From the plan this first section was going to be glued into position but templates required to give the correct angle or tilt of the bridge outer walls
pic 8 My favourite picture It is a model of the Scotia in a bottle i believe ( but don't quote me) built by John Dunn who showed us around the Scotia to get the pictures and info needed to build the model The model was fitted through the neck of the bottle No the bottom of the bottle wasn't cut out and then refitted
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: ballastanksian on August 17, 2017, 08:57:43 pm
Milliput and Epoxy resins cure by chemical reaction once mixed, so unless the mould is warm or cold, or the putty was poorly mixed or too much/too little of the hardner element was used, which will affect curing times, the milliput will be cured overnight wether covered or not.

I am impressed with the results you are getting, and also the two part mould you made  :-))
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Post by: Seaspray on August 18, 2017, 08:15:02 am
There like everything else there was a knack in getting the 2 part mould just right and both parts at the right depth. and aligned exactly. I notice if the resin part of muliputt wasn't equal with the other part ( yellow) when mixing your hands went yellow and if it was the other way it was off too quickly The epo putty to me, was softer and smoother than muliputt But there will be other products to try out there.

Reply 160 pic 5 is just about right for aligning up and depth of the master
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on August 23, 2017, 09:12:10 am
The Bridge
pic1 3 front section windows cut out and tacked into position
pic 2 using templates to get the angles of the bridge walls correct
pic 3 oops missed these windows had to cut them out in situ
pic 4 this to me was a tricky part to build as there is ladders to fit here
pic 5 & 6 templates used for the bridge floor and roof
pic 7 the roof and floor cut out in ply bridge walls completed 
pic 8 bridge and cofferdam structure offered up to model, fits a treat
pic 9 got these from Squires Crafts got feed up of my snipers being ruined by cutting piano wire,  they leave a nice straight cutting edge  Down side they leave a couple of mm wire sticking out cause of their wide jaws
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on August 30, 2017, 08:13:06 pm
The Bridge
pic 1 & 2 got some scrap wood and made a quick representation of the inside of bridge furniture and painted it up
pic 3  a guessed  attempt to build the gantry as I have only two references on the plan a side view stb side and a line on the top view grantry template in place
pic 4 the gantry supports  were square styrene pierces glued under bridge floor
pic 5 gantry completed with brass mesh fitted with bridge roof offered up
pic 6 looks alright looking into bridge still to sand roof walls level  to fit roof
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 06, 2017, 06:52:24 pm
Well here we go again the grantry had to be stripped down as it was too low. I  discovered this when I offered the stanchions up in their place, millimeters out

The eight pictures tell the rebuild story the last 2 are the completed rebuild including the brass mesh floor in place.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 06, 2017, 07:20:30 pm
Last few pics you'll notice the grantry side support is now glued to the bridge outside walls Thats the grantry at the right height now and where it should be
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on September 06, 2017, 09:11:34 pm
More mistakes, more re-doing, but well worth it in the end - smashing job on that gantry. O0 :-))

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on September 07, 2017, 08:19:50 am
Ray
Cheers again I've already reworked the paint work on the cofferdam and bridge section twice  Either it is bad spraying or the ply is too old I also have a paint problem at the moment of what type to use I had a reaction on the goosenecks so bad they had to be scrapped that was cellulose sanding sealer then rattle can halford's primer them humbrol enamel white Then boof what a reaction there was but it was about an hour later

I bought humbrol white acrylic no 22 and it was as thin as milk intructions on the tinlet had a picture of an airbrush so I now take it it is for airbrushing I also find the rattle can of etching primer just has to be touched a little and it falls off
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: ballastanksian on September 07, 2017, 10:17:13 am
Sorry to hear about your paint problems especially if it means throwing hard work away  >:-o The bridge with its detail and 'innards' is fantastic. I like the mesh floor of the gantry. Are you going to crew her?

Keep up the good work  :-))
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Post by: Seaspray on September 07, 2017, 10:50:51 am
ballastanksian

Never thought of crewing the model but its an idea you put in me old head I use an other model for assistance if i don't have the correct pictures and its crewed See image.

Never had this trouble on the Meteor and it was all sprayed with rattle cans but used a lot of masking tape
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Post by: Seaspray on October 02, 2017, 05:44:57 pm
further rework
pic 1 rubbed it down again and didn't like the looks of the handrails so removed them
pic 2 I removed the handrail  from the little wall supports and cleaned the lot up
pic 3 ordered some packets of these O gauge handrail knobs and will be usine these
pic 4 Some of them needed to be cleaned out but it was only a little swarf
pic 5 bit tricky putting the handrails back onto the model
pic 6 & 7 I think they look a lot better now all are fitted
pic 8 this is the way I level the bridge roof top 
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Post by: Seaspray on October 02, 2017, 05:48:36 pm
Looks good so far
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Post by: ballastanksian on October 02, 2017, 09:01:28 pm
Deffo very neat.
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Post by: derekwarner on October 03, 2017, 02:30:38 am
The brass etched boxed walkway material surrounding the bridge looks superb  :-)) ......how are you going to treat this?.......

A chemical process...[blackening] can turn this to any shade of greenish/bronze/black and is only a surface change to a few micron in depth and a few micron as an oxidised surface finish

To the naked eye, you would never perceive any change in the mesh plate surface width, depth or thickness of the cross sections

On the real vessel, I suspect any rain or spray water would simply fall through the mesh, then through boxed in scupper plates and drains to the main deck level

Derek

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Post by: Seaspray on October 03, 2017, 07:14:12 pm
ballastanksian  :-)) cheers mate it got to look neat and a treat or its binned hence all the rework

Derek

I don't think what you use as a building material these days it will deterate in time. I have templates and more brass to hand if things go sour. Also hopefully with a coat of etching primer and two coats of white primer and a top coat of appliance white it should last a reasonable time Ofcoure the primer coats were rubbed down and a few mesh hole had to be cleaned out with a 0.4 mm drill
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Post by: Seaspray on October 22, 2017, 01:44:23 pm
The pulley frame
Pic 1 parts cut out for assembly
Pic 2 the walkway brass mesh cut to shape from template
pic 3 part for the railings
pic 4 railing soldered to frame later I fitted the railing legs inside the frame
pic 5 parts to build the pulleys
pic 6 & 7 & 8 frame in place note pic 8 I refitted the clear plasticard to the windows as there was some with glue on them.  I refitted PVC clear windows but they were easy scratch while being cut to size I reverted to Bayer brand as they were better quality and had a protective film on them bought from stationroadbaseboards.co.uk and finally glued the the bridge furniture in place Looks a lot better now
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Post by: Seaspray on October 25, 2017, 03:50:21 pm
Bridge gantry railings doing a catch up as pics are still out of build sequence
pics 1 use the gantry as a template to shape the rails
pic 2 all the rails to shape for port and starboard sides
pic 3 parts use to build the rear cofferdam deck railings
pic 4 started to build the railing in situ but didn't like this and went back to building railing on the thin brass base
pic 5 the port railing soldered and offered up in position
pic 6 starboard rail soldered and etch primed in position
pic 7 port railing etched and in position ladder offered up to check things are o.k. for space
i have went on further than this as the computer crashed the pics are scrambled hopefully were now on track
ob
If you look closely in the last picture you'll see the contaminated paint surface I let it settle and sanded the surface
apply a gray primer after a week I painted in white i believe the problems with the paint came from the new flux I was using now using the old flux
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Post by: Seaspray on October 30, 2017, 01:39:49 pm
Pic 1 the 2 ladders rebuilt to be used to get up to the gantry
pic 2 gantry rails altered to fit new ladders soldered in position
pic 3 rails spray up
pic 4 cofferdam railing assembled offered into position and then removed and sprayed up
pic 5 rails  / cranes / liferafts  / window inserted / I.D number and a final coat of varnish

now the bridge roof
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Post by: Capt Podge on November 03, 2017, 06:28:39 pm
A lot of very complicated work going on here but the results are showing through nicely. Great to see it evolving - thank you.

Regards,

Ray.
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Post by: Seaspray on November 04, 2017, 08:23:30 am
Ray  :-))
I feel the build  quality and paint finish is not as good as on the Meteor
Half way doing the bridge roof and a little stuck due to not much in the way of photos so have switchd to doing the work boat and rescue boat till some pictures turn up.
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Post by: Seaspray on November 11, 2017, 07:13:43 pm
The Cofferdam deck is green not white so it was a strip down all parts, sanded down surface and resprayed the deck green relaced all parts also added the rope ladders covered with their haps I used plasticine for this, Started on the bridge roof
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Post by: Seaspray on November 14, 2017, 09:48:03 am
continuing with bridge roof / wind deflector

pic 1 after doing the templates started the build using ply this corner was a little tricky to get right
pic 2  pieces of ply for the top of the deflector
pic 3  tops being glued into place
pic 4  tops glued and sanding to a good fit
pic 5  support cut and glued into position
pic 6  all the supports fitted
pic 7  sprayed the underside of roof to create some light inside bridge
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Post by: Seaspray on November 14, 2017, 11:58:42 am
pics 1,2, Bridge roof finished and offered in position
pic   3 Setting about to build the navigation mast not much on plan about this so its build from the pictures I've source of the net


Up to date on the build now
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Post by: hama on November 14, 2017, 04:49:05 pm
Wow! Great work, she will be amazing when finished.
Thanks for sharing.
Hama
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Post by: Seaspray on November 14, 2017, 05:11:27 pm
hama  :-)) appreciated
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Post by: Starspider on November 14, 2017, 11:28:18 pm
Great skills and very nice build.
COlin
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Post by: Seaspray on November 15, 2017, 12:22:37 pm
Starspider  :-))  cheers
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Post by: bfgstew on November 15, 2017, 12:39:22 pm
Must agree, your craftsmanship is enviable.
My work is as good as yours from about 100 metres away and if you squint a bit....... :-))


Stewart
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Post by: Seaspray on November 15, 2017, 01:13:36 pm
bfgstew  :-)) cheers
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Post by: Seaspray on November 23, 2017, 10:27:02 am
The mast
Went for a build in brass wish I hadn't we got there in the end I dislike soldering 2 or 3 different sizes of brass cause of the heat control good clean up needed

pic 1 the plan doesn't give much info
pic 2 I managed to blow up a picture taken while on the ship and will be using this I'll take the height from     
        the plan and work from there
pic 3 started with the base on the centre post
pic 4 parts cut and laid out for assembly
Pic 5 started soldering using a little jig to keep side arms straight and level
pic 6 job done good clean up offered into position looks goods navigation light a and radar and other bits an
        pieces to be fitted later
        Been getting a lot of dirty solder joints been using 11 old solder and 8 years old flux and the brass i think   
        is B & Q  brass I prefer KS brand. Think its a time to buy new items
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: ballastanksian on November 23, 2017, 09:15:45 pm
Wowsers, that roof and it's deflector is impressive  %% The masts are not to be sniffed at either with the complex foot. Great work as to be expected old solder or not.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: derekwarner on November 23, 2017, 09:50:33 pm
Seaspray...you are doing fine.....

Could I ask...are you using a small gas torch?.......oxidised solder will contribute to rubbish floating on the solder.......I too experienced issues with an 8 year old bottle of Bakers liquid flux with about 20% remaining ....and replaced it with a new bottle & my issues disappeared

I read all of the builds from a Canadian member [Jerry????} who built some amazing soft soldered brass scale gun mounts & other structures. He used an elaborate but simple method of heat sinks for close proximity with previously soldered joints \

I will see if I can go back & find his threads 

Derek
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 24, 2017, 10:45:28 am
ballastanksian
cheers  :-)) again took a while to do the base. It was different diameters tubes and a flat section of brass causes the problem getting the right heat and  took a few hours to get it done it did need a good clean up. Once the mast is finished It'll be doing the railings around and on top of the wind deflector again nowt on plan just pictures to go on

Derek  :-)) I spoke to you sometime ago about this problem and have since then bought a soldering flame gun like the one in the forground in your picture I was tempted to tackle the mast using it but too cold in the shed to do.Also I  would like to do some practice using it firstly. Yes I did have rubbish floating on the joint but a cleanup with 600 wet n dry did the trick never been great at soldering without using flux me i like bakers but have never got round to buying some so I'll buy some a.s.a.p. and start using it. I used bakers flux in the 60s trying to fill a hole in the white metal bearing on a big end of a 1937 Wolseley i had as the engineers said to try it as it would cost a lot for them to do it I can put a piece of copper pipe on its end on a piece of flat surface using a Qtip put a smear of baker flux around the edge where the two meet drop a small piece of solder on the bakers and chase the solder around the copper pipe and get a great finish perfect joint but can't do this with these small items being built I used a lot of makeshift heat sinks to no affect so If you find the link for Jerry's soldering it would be appreciated
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Post by: Seaspray on December 02, 2017, 05:11:58 pm
The mast has been completed and far from happy the amount of heat sinks used started to interfere with the job I'll also consider the next brass work to be done in wood but first will buy KS brass and new solder also change to bakers flux

Pic 1 the top part of the mast but was altered  and fitted later
pic 2 a good clean up and joints need checking before the etching primer is sprayed on
pic 3 mast offered in place now that was a good tight fit  the ladders just cleared the roof parts

I have added another light support on the bottom right missed this as i didn't see it for thr wind deflector/ camera angle
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Post by: Capt Podge on December 08, 2017, 09:23:42 pm
Hello Seaspray - well, I have to say your work on the bridge roof looks great. :-)

As for the mast, like most construction jobs in this game, I'm sure will look the business once painted up - keep it going. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
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Post by: Seaspray on July 16, 2018, 07:44:16 pm
Meanwhile back at the ranchpic 1 soldering up the bridge roof hatch guardpic 2 guard painted and glued in positionpic 3 using my faithful drill shaping the radar domes for the bridge roofpic 4 domes ready for assembly and paintingpic 5 starting to solder the railing on top of the wind deflectorpic 6 railing finished note the supporting rods inside the top of the deflector
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Post by: Seaspray on July 17, 2018, 08:18:53 am
I redone the gooseneck vents as the last lot surfaces went soft
pic 1 the goosenecks sprayed up and coat with varnish
pic 2, 3, 4 the finished bridge top secured in place
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Post by: hama on July 17, 2018, 11:54:09 am
Nice to see you back at it!
It looks fantastic as usual.
Hama
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Post by: Seaspray on July 17, 2018, 01:54:45 pm
hama  :-)) Nice to be back took a while but got here.

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Post by: Seaspray on July 18, 2018, 09:59:54 am
A little gangway between the winches. I have two versions to choose from and went for the one in the images 1972,1973. 
Currently doing the railings.pic 1-5 little gangway part built.pic 6 that lazy horse is on my chair again at least its warm when I go to sit on it.bare with me lads having trouble with computer pic 6 write up should be on a new line Martin is on it hopefully
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Post by: Seaspray on July 22, 2018, 09:20:18 am
Gangway built
pic 1, 2 brass rail being built
pic 3,4,5 rails removed and sprayed up then glue into position
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Post by: Tafelspitz on July 23, 2018, 06:44:17 am
Neat!  :-))
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Post by: Seaspray on July 23, 2018, 04:55:12 pm
Thanks  :-)) it took I while to build but its been rewarding
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Post by: ballastanksian on July 23, 2018, 07:59:23 pm

You are another superb builder and that last work shows it. Poor old dawg, he looks like he could do with a fuss  :}



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Post by: Seaspray on July 24, 2018, 08:01:16 am
ballastanksian  :-)) Thanks my quaility of work is down to my mentor John W E and thanks to Riggers for introducting me to John. Must admit that it does take a few or more tries to get it right or near enough.When I meet John I wasn't great at reading plans. Cheeers to them two lads as well
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Post by: nmbrook on July 29, 2018, 11:51:00 am
Very nice work Seaspray :-))


Regards


Nigel
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Post by: Seaspray on July 29, 2018, 03:12:04 pm
 Nigel  :-))
Its a rewarding hobby, thanks
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Post by: Seaspray on August 03, 2018, 03:40:08 pm
Building the work boat 7 pictures of some of the build More  pics tmo sick computer  %%
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Post by: Seaspray on August 04, 2018, 10:24:25 am
6 more pictures of the work boat build. Now ready for a clean up and spray.


Started on the rescue boat.
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Post by: ballastanksian on August 04, 2018, 05:36:57 pm
A big thumbs up for the work on your boats  :-)) 
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Post by: Seaspray on August 05, 2018, 07:27:26 am
ballastanksian cheers  :-))


Now working on the railings around the forecastle and and each side of the main deck.
More pics today of the rescue and work boats completed


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Post by: Seaspray on August 05, 2018, 07:32:28 pm
Rescue boat various pics of the build all will get a good tidy up and sprayed. last 2 pics put into position to see if everything is 0.k.
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Post by: Seaspray on August 10, 2018, 08:17:42 pm
Starting to assemble the rails and stanchions a little more tricky as there was some on the bow unlike the Meteor Now lets see if this computer behaves itself


pic 1 started to build the railings like the Meteor on a brass strip but changed my mind.
pic 2 tacked the stanchions in their places and threaded two bottom rails in place 0.4mm
pic 3 shaping the top rail around the bow
pic 4 started soldered top rail into position
pic 5 most of the railing fixed
pic 6 complete railing removed cleaned under hot water ready for spraying
pic 7 sprayed with etching primer and hung up to dry for a day of two
pic 8 slight damage to boat while building the rails and it being laying about for a time a resprayed is being done
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Post by: steve mahoney on August 11, 2018, 11:43:53 pm
Nice work on the railings. A section that size and complexity can often end in tears.
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Post by: Seaspray on August 12, 2018, 07:17:14 am
Cheers Steve
I done the rails this way as I opt to spray them off the boat. As painting them would be a pain in the butt. Anyway most of the white acrylic paints now a days is that thin its like painting milk on the railing. Although I have found 2 paints that have a little more body to them.  The first one is from the Games Workshop called Citadel, Ceramite White a base and with a little water added it has a reasonable coverage. Second one is Model Colour''s Acrylic, White, RAL 9016 it to is good. Ammo's their Signal Green A-.MIG-054 is almost a good match for Halford's Ford Mondena Green which I use for the decks
I don't use Humbrol or Tamiya paints anymore
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Post by: Seaspray on August 19, 2018, 08:45:57 pm
Few picture of some little work done in the last week as I've been painting and decorating

pic 1,2 I have to use what wood is available and when the grain is open I use P38 smeared over the wood. Then run it down smooth with my drill. I will do this with ply in the future as it has been lying around the place for years.

pic 3 This lot of wood will become the two cranes when assembled.
pic 4 Railings all spray up with a coat of etching primer, a thin coat of white primer and then a coat of appliance white. Just got to scrap the paint of the bottom of the rail ready to insert rails into the deck.
pic 5 As the model has been knocked about for years a respray here and there was required. Just the hull bottom the spray with lacquer,job done
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Post by: Seaspray on August 23, 2018, 10:04:14 am
Main deck and forecastle deck railings. The railings  were a good fit after being sprayed up and fitted to the boat. But should have glued then as I fitted them in the first place. Removing them to glue caused a few problems. A little adjustment here an there a touch of paint and I think they'll be o.k.


Pic 1 Starting to fit rails
Pic 2,3, 4. Rails glued in place
Pic 5, 6. Starting to look like a boat now


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Post by: Tafelspitz on August 23, 2018, 10:48:05 am
Coming along nicely!  :-) :-))
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Post by: Seaspray on August 23, 2018, 06:26:30 pm
Cheers Dom just doing it as I have time. Your build is coming on too.  :-)) 
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Post by: Seaspray on August 25, 2018, 07:04:17 pm
Only three more steps to do then it'll be the railings in midships area


Pic 1 the three step in their position
pic 2 handrails being soldered on
pic 3 2 in position and trimmed to size
pic 4 & 5 ladder up to the work/rescue boats deck
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Post by: Seaspray on September 15, 2018, 10:28:44 am
the cranes 2 cranes one midships starboard side at the small workstation. Other sits on top of the port castle


pic 1 top part of the main body of the crane sanded to width with front and back cambers them cut to length
pic 2 using the proxxon scroll saw cutting out the area for the lower arm of the crane
pic 3 & 4 the gap between the table and the disc on my sander is wide so i use a piece of scrap wood up against the disc while i sand the small part. as long as i keep left of centre of the disc it does the job
pic 5 crane arm sanded to shape using the way in pic 3, 4.
pic 6 both cranes done you'll see I had to glue a piece of wood on to the middle arm as I cut it wrong
pic 7 main bodies and arms ready to be assembled


Still trying to find pictures lost in the computer crash so they'll be big build gaps
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Post by: Seaspray on September 21, 2018, 10:44:04 am
Just thought I'd show my work areas as everybody else does at times


Pic 1- 3 Is  the spare room cosy (c/h) south facing (sunny) everything to hand.
pic 4 Is my paint and glue masking tape department.
pic 5  The shed or mucky pit where all the spraying and soldering is done. Getting too cold now (September) to work out there. Also I bring my electrical tools in for the winter. The other hand tools are o.k. as there in lined drawers in the cabinet at the end of the workbench.


Just finishing the 2 cranes a clean up and spray on Mayhem in a couple of days
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Post by: Seaspray on September 21, 2018, 05:38:51 pm
More on the crane builds
Pic 1 is a photo of the guide and enclosed end of the crane
pic 2 started to build from the picture a good copy on the main boom
pic 3 crane booms glued and clamped overnight
pic 4 a check so see if is a reasonable fit on the deck
pic 5-6 parts to build the platform on the crane in previous picture
pic 6  all soldered up this part is now attached to the crane


build is a hit and miss with the amount of pictures lost on crash
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Post by: Seaspray on September 21, 2018, 06:16:02 pm
further the cranes
pic 1 brass rod cut for the 3 pulley wheels on the end of the boom
pic 2 brass rods to be glued on the part cut from the plan
pic 3 using my dremel I grinded a flat on the 14 BA washers to make eyes on the cranes should they need to be lifted off the boat
pic 4 as you can see from the picture the brass part assembled on to crane and the washers glued into place
pic 5 2 cranes one on left has the platform assembled to it and both have rams using tooth picks
pic 6 what a mess I'll need to find a new soldering bolt with a very small tip to improve my soldering. I have redone this If you look at the piece of brass sticking out from the base I use this to clamp the job stops it wandering 
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Post by: John W E on September 21, 2018, 06:29:16 pm

Hi mate,


making a nice job I am watching with interest - you are a gifted modeller for sure.   You can think outside the box, I have been stuck in the box for too long hahah


John :-))
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Post by: Seaspray on September 21, 2018, 06:35:38 pm
Hi Mate
oh that soldering is crap compared to the Meteor but I'll find a pencil tip for my iron some where improve the soldering

Hmm wonder where I learned to model
 
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Post by: Seaspray on September 21, 2018, 06:43:25 pm
Last two pic of the cranes
pic 1 one on left platform redone and cleaned up both have their ladders fitted
pic 3 talk about in the deep end this is the next crane to build oh boy tricky one
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Post by: Seaspray on October 26, 2018, 02:06:15 pm
Starting to build crane 3
pic 1 A little tool I made up to find the centre of a round piece of metal / wood.
pic 2 only piece of wood available was a cut off the kitchen floor brush.
pic 3 it was 2.5 mm too big so into the drill and sanded it to size took a little time to do.
pic 4 cut the boom out and assembled the turret with plastic cut outs for the reel.
pic 5 started to construct the parts on the boom and the supports for the platform
pic 6 built the rams using a cotton bud and some brass round
pic 7 fitting rams to boom


Not happy with the finished job as the wood like me is old and the spray job was a disaster  {:-{



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Post by: Seaspray on October 26, 2018, 02:28:01 pm
Crane 3
pic 1 start to assemble the platform using brass
pic 2 lower half done
pic 3 railings added little clean up on the solder joint still looking for  fine tipped soldering bolt
pic 4 crane finished with little light spray of primer on it 

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Post by: Seaspray on October 30, 2018, 10:40:23 am
Cranes


 pic 1 All cranes finished sprayed up and decal fitted then a coat of Satin acrylic varnish


Disappointed here doesn't matter what I've tried the grain still shows. Need to stop using the likes of broom handles for round sections on the build
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Post by: Seaspray on October 30, 2018, 11:04:29 am
slide gantries



pic 1 parts cut to size for assembly
pic 2 this is how i square ladders while glue is setting
pic 3 i clamp the sides to get a straight square width all the way down the ladder fit the steps while in the clamps lets me see if the steps are cut to the correct length.
pic 4 had to do a lot of sanding when the ladders when assembled bring them to a scale size
pic 5 ladders glued up and an angle support fitted  this is a guess as it was taken from long range pictures
pic 6,7 sprayed up using gray primer as is looked like the nearest colour and offered up in position on model looks o.k.   
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Post by: dreadnought72 on October 30, 2018, 12:33:04 pm
Quality scratchbuilding, there!  :-))


Andy
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Post by: Seaspray on October 31, 2018, 07:23:09 am
Cheers Andy appreciated
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Post by: Seaspray on November 02, 2018, 11:49:24 am
Top of the castles
pic  1 & 2 the tops were cut and sanded to size which is a little smaller than the plan as i am going to glue the sides to the outside edge help hide the rough surfaces edges of the ply


started on the castle and stopped to look into further picture
pic 1 shows the modified castle side larger opening
pic 2 this is what my plan shows a smaller opening
pic 3 this show supports inside the pillar which are not on the picture in pic 1


meantime
pic 1 I'll fit the railings in this section and the ladder in the distance is spray and fitted into position.
pic 2  The ladder to the work rescue boat deck have been sprayed up and glued in position


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Post by: Seaspray on November 08, 2018, 03:37:10 pm
the castles
pic 1 from a template using guessamation 4 pieces were glued together
pic 2 when cut they matched each other
pic 3 the outside were sanded but the problem was their inside parts
pic 4 with a file and  finishing up with a nail file a nice flat inside surfaces were got
pic 5 using primer filler the outsides were sanded smooth
pic 6 castle towers offered into position to see what they look like
pic 7 from the previous reply the the platforms offered up on towers so far everything is fine
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Post by: Tafelspitz on November 09, 2018, 07:26:00 am
Ingenious work, and all from scratch... very impressive  :-))
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Post by: Seaspray on November 10, 2018, 09:58:52 am
Thanks  again appreciated


Most of it is done by hand tools and my mentor John W E. (bluebird) for over the decades is reflected in my builds
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 10, 2018, 12:03:12 pm
Raised container hatch and guard rail


pic 1 starting to build container hatch
pic 2 hatch completed ready to spray glued to a piece of wood to let spray pass
pic 3 hatch sprayed up offered into position not glued yet things to check
pic 4 guard rail frame shaped and checked for good fit in holes on deck
pic 5 cross beams soldered into position checking they're level are clear the crane hook
pic 6 guard all soldered up a clean under the hot tap and ready to spray up
pic 7 all sprayed up and glued into position
pic 8 this is the paint i am moving to its a base but I always do a final spray of satin varnish over it



Sorry about the pics there was a little bit of sawdust on the lens
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 11, 2018, 09:43:57 am
railing and stanchions on the funnel deck


pic 1 sister gave me this to make a winch for the model
pic 2  pencil line drawn and distances marked a 0.5 mm holes drilled and stanchions offered into place.. looks good
pic 3 because of the bend I load the stanchions on to the brass rod then tack them in place one by one
pic 4 sometimes I have to do a join on a corner as in this picture
pic 5 all soldered up using flux gives me a quick solder joint and move to different parts  to help with the heat or stop if need be removed for spraying
pic 6 flux removed under hot water tap then sprayed up bit iffy on auto focus my camera doesn't like too much white in the picture
pic 7 funnel place in position ladder glue in place touch up hare and there
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 13, 2018, 03:34:14 pm
last of the main decks railing


pic 1 port side railing done and in position also the blue heavy guard was removed and  resprayed
pic 2 starboard side over cabins done and fitted
pic 3 an over view of the railings in pics 1 & 2
pic 4 all the railing ladders now done
pic 5 looking up to the bow view
pic  6 the platforms for the castles were not level so they were taken apart squared up and re glued
pic 7 now the castles are in the right position with their hatches cut out starting their build


sorry about the picture quality again
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on November 15, 2018, 08:28:22 am
Seen this picture pic 1 my sister took while we were on board so thought I would have a go at trying to build it. pic 2
In the meantime I'll get on with the castles and put the pics up after the holidays
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on December 31, 2018, 04:54:52 pm
Just been going through this build log again - astounded, to find it has been just over a year since I last looked in on it :o (see top of page 9)

I must say though, she's looking great... O0

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on January 30, 2019, 05:24:06 pm
Just remembered if you've not attached the goose neck air vents on the trawl deck next to the net drum the plans are wrong , when she was brand new they were rough weather testing her up off Norway and she got swamped up the ramp and the water got into the engine control room below deck through those vents , did a fair bit of damage and once repaired they cut them in half and raised them so they were 2m above the deck
attached photos show the areas you asked about clearer
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on January 31, 2019, 01:45:12 pm
Cheers Ray
Yea time goes on thanks for your input


Thanks Davie


 I am working with the original plan and some modifications here and there.Your pictures help a lot. Waiting to see if Iain Gibb can get me better pics or drawings of the winches up on the castles and behind the funnel.


I'll return to the build in a few weeks just recovering from another operation. Then l.o.l they might give me a new knee joint come March.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: DavieTait on January 31, 2019, 03:00:30 pm
You will need to extend the air pipes then as that was done before she was handed over to the Lab after the accident off Norway , I don't have a photo of that part of the deck to show it but it was literally just cut the pipes in half , weld in 1m of pipe and re-weld to the side of the ship.....
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on February 01, 2019, 11:08:26 am
Davie
I'll look in to it when I am mobile and back on the hobby bench.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on April 20, 2019, 06:52:50 pm
Hi Davie
I am kinda a head of the pictures on this thread. The original plan came from Bill Wood Aberdeen  who built the fiberglass hull. But made enquiries and got a little updated plan from the Scottish Government. So if there is any difference I'll just have to let it go. Seen a picture somewhere of higher goosevents but unable to find it now.


Back with build this week,hopefully





Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on May 04, 2019, 09:59:42 am
I'm back


Pictures of the two castle builds


pic 1 modern day picture of how the castles look to date
pic 2 using a template to get the the shape and size of side support of castle.
pic 3 the 2 sides cut out ready for to glue into position.
pic 4 sides and  edges glued into position.
pic 5 a clean up and sanding ready for a couple coats of Eze-Kote
pic 6 & 7 offered into position and the tops sprayed up.


More on build soon.

Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on May 06, 2019, 10:21:44 am
further into the build
pic 1 removed the castle bases and re sanded them as they looked rough on the wood surfaces
pic 2 placed back into place to mark up their position for gluing into position believe it or not they're smooth now
pic 3 before i glued the castles into position i fitted the goosevents into their place
pic 4 - 7 the build of the ladders used to get to the platforms of the castles
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on May 10, 2019, 12:09:41 pm
Further into the build some pictures have went missing from the camera.


pic 1 corner of starboard castle being built up
pic 2 rough parts that are in the corner you'll see them later when sprayed up
pic 3 started building the forgot what its called somebody will
pic 4 used plastic as a first build choice but went back to brass main part bent to shape and size
pic 5 support legs cut to size
pic 6 soldered up and primed
pic 7 other parts on the castle being built had to use plastic to get the 'I' beam shape
pic 8 part completed I scraped the plastic top unit
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on May 10, 2019, 12:34:26 pm
Castles
Pic 1 you can see the parts on top that were built in previous pictures not glued into position yet Also the ladders
pic 2, 3 start in to fit the railings with 2 views


Took a while to get a good surface on the wood. This is wood used at the time of building the Meteor
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on May 23, 2019, 08:24:10 am
Further on with the build
pic 1 the receiving bin glued into position also i added a little power cabinet next to it. sorry about out of focus
pic 2 started to add the support stays after they were sprayed
pic 3 bin completed
pic 4 both castles finished ready for further fittings
pic 5 port castle into position with the crane fitted and the navigation lights you seen the build of the crane earlier in the build
pic 6 container crane fitted starboard side midships build earlier in thread

More later
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on May 27, 2019, 12:11:32 pm
When I build the parts of my model I put them away till final build time

pic 1,2 another crane fitted its for heavy duty work as it has two rams

pic 3 rescue and work boats fitted also stanchions and rails

pic 4 the ( lets call it the A frame ) and the gantry now fitted

pic 5 anchor chains sprayed black and fitted

pic 6 forecastle deck has the gooseneck vents / bollards / raised hatches / provision crane / winch room and mast fitted
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on May 29, 2019, 10:39:26 am
further build on starboard castle the big heavy duty swing arm unit I was told what this was but I have forgotten maybe D.T came lets us know


pic 1 from the plan the arm roughly cut to shape
pic 2 on it side and sand it  to get the tapper and the straight part at end for arm to sit on square
pic 3 decided to remake the arm in two pieces cut the new shape out thought the top would look better using dowelling
pic 4 this is the main part again cut to use the dowelling on top
pic 5 main part offered into position with more sanding to shape looks up top better with the dowel used
pic 6 that is  a lot better shape and and almost ready to prime
pic 7 finally primed painted glued into position
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 01, 2019, 12:36:01 pm
starboard castle
pic 1 the rams partly made and taking a measurement prior fitting
pic 2 rams completed made of brass rod inserted in a cotton bud stock ends are larger brass round
pic 3 rams glued in place
pic 4 starboard  castle completed and glue on to the deck


pictures are out of build sequence motto .... don't put your picture into your computer till after you show them   keep them in you camera
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 03, 2019, 06:05:40 pm
the pelagic split net drum didn't have any pictures on this and the plan wasn't too clear


pic 1 the two ends cut out over size
pic 2 in the dremel run down to correct size and nice flat edges
pic 3 a rough attempt at the drum
pic 4 sprayed up glued into place on the model
pic 5 there is yellow paint section on the inside of the drum ends rather than mask and spray I cut yellow shaped part from a yellow sticky label


next the winches 8 I think
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 10, 2019, 10:10:01 pm
the winches made from some scrap wood  available
pic 1 started with the drum center of winch
pic 2 platforms cut to size starting to cut round ends out
pic 3 centre and ends cut
pic 4 starting to assemble winches
pic 5 glued together and in clamps over night
pic 6 almost finished build
pic 7 built ready for spraying
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 10, 2019, 10:28:15 pm
winch continued
pic 1-3 some winches glued into their position on board
pic 4-6 my usual type of name plate for the stand from a piece of branch I got years ago for this purpose


phew almost finished model :-))
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on June 10, 2019, 10:59:27 pm
This has been a fascinating build log to date. When I get some spare time I'm going to read the whole thing again and definitely make notes on some of the techniques you have developed during the course of the build. O0 
You're almost there Seaspray :-))
Regards
Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 11, 2019, 07:38:28 am
Hi Ray


Yes its been a long build but not as long as the Meteor (10 years). Just putting the hull markings on and its a ballast job then of to the local pond for a good long sail.


While I have the Kontio hull lines and a simple G.A. plan plus two build sheets from the Graupner Kit to aid building. I don't think I'll tackle that build. Looking at doing the American Waterways Patrol Launch next. I got it part built up at Coatbridge Model Exhibition. Not so much in depth scale build that'll suit me.


Regards
Martin
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 21, 2019, 11:25:32 am
Further into the build


pic 1 I am using an old pack of Barry's letters for the hull markings
pic 2 started with the line all  the way along the hull or most of it anyway
pic 3 name and port on starboard stern ( Leith is part of Edinburgh docks )
pic 4 more hull markings at the bow
pic 5 my usual name plate a slice of branch and centering  the lettering
pic 6 lettering looks good and 3 coats of varnish
pic 7 overall view of model almost finished


The model has had a good tart up since these pics were taken

Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on June 21, 2019, 11:34:46 am
She's a beautiful looking model Martin and you can be justifiably proud of your achievement.
Looking forward to seeing pictures of  her on the water :-))

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Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on June 21, 2019, 11:51:13 am
Forgot to add this - don't forget to seal with varnish /lacquer.  :o
Regards
Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 21, 2019, 05:29:42 pm
Hi Ray
Cheers for your comment and she does look good so does the real one


 As all the paint is Acrylic and sprayed either from a rattle can or airbrush. I use Chestnut Satin Varnish its just right, sprays easy doesn't run and just good at protecting the model


After using 10 cans over the years and buying from Axminster tools. I found a supply locally and saved £3.00 postage


Martin
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 22, 2019, 09:56:56 pm
almost there on the build

pics 1-2 in the bath to load up correct ballast


pics 1-7 the completed model


Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on June 22, 2019, 10:06:20 pm
I think congratulations are in order here Martin, and as I said earlier - she's a real beauty.
With this great model alongside your Meteor you have a fine pair to sail and display.
 :-)) :-))
Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 22, 2019, 10:17:37 pm
Hi Ray


Don't tell anybody there both  going to a Scottish museum. Just a display case issue

Here is a better picture of the magnificent two


Off to the pond tomorrow and trials and final pictures
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on June 22, 2019, 10:26:40 pm
Your secret is safe with me  :-X {-)
 :-))
Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: hama on June 22, 2019, 11:53:20 pm
Magnificent model! It's been great to follow this build and I particularly like how you make all the different parts and fittings out of wood.
Now looking forward to see her on the water!
Hama
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 23, 2019, 08:16:43 am
Hi Hama
Thanks for interest appreciated.

I do prefer wood and brass to plastic

On the water photos tonight

Cheers

Martin
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 23, 2019, 11:17:38 pm
picture of the model on the water various manoeuvres handled well


Thats it job done phew....


Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: marinemole on June 23, 2019, 11:56:11 pm
Congratulations and well done. Beautiful model.


Andy
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Capt Podge on June 24, 2019, 12:01:23 am
Great to see her on the water Martin.
Thank you for the very interesting build log - inspiring really  :-))


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 24, 2019, 11:18:54 am
Hi Andy and Ray


Thanks again
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: awvs on June 24, 2019, 05:19:24 pm

Wow, a beautiful model and she looks great on the water.


Congratulations
Wilhelm
Title: Re: FISHERIES RESEARCH VESSEL SCOTIA
Post by: Seaspray on June 24, 2019, 07:32:37 pm
Hi Wilhelm


Many thanks It was a pleasure and a challenge to build


Martin