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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Submarines => Topic started by: colin-stevens on July 14, 2007, 06:26:15 pm

Title: U-31
Post by: colin-stevens on July 14, 2007, 06:26:15 pm
any of you guys come across the new Robbe U-31 as yet.
Colin
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Sub driver on July 14, 2007, 07:09:56 pm
Only what I have managed to read...I think it can be purchased in 2 versions with an option of a brushless motor.
One of the packages is a dynamic dive and the other I am told will be a dive module for it.
I am led to believe that the full option ie static dive and brushless set up could be quite expensive... well here anyway..Thats all i can tell you hope that is of use ..
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: colin-stevens on July 14, 2007, 08:12:55 pm
i made it out as the brushless was standard, static will be a option, extra will be the the control unit for the motor. MMMM.
as will everything else. yer, pricey.
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Sub driver on July 15, 2007, 07:06:21 pm
Unfortunately all the bits are extras...you buy the hull package .(1215).Then the power package..(1216) .Then the ballast package (1217) and then the static package .?.
It also reccomends a computer PCM radio as the rear vanes are a cruciform arrangement and the computer radio has the facility to mix the vanes...or you would have to invest in some electronic mixer for a standard radio ( according to my Robbe 2007 new release catalogue anyhow ) :(
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Subculture on July 15, 2007, 07:28:21 pm
If you want to fit a leveller, then on board mixing is essential- a computer radio is waste of time in this regard.

Andy
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Stavros on January 24, 2008, 10:10:23 pm
Topic cleaned up lets get back on track


Stavros
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: bbdave on January 25, 2008, 08:42:05 pm
whats the advantage of using outrunners on a sub? is it worth the extra? don't they have a very high current drain?
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: colin-stevens on January 25, 2008, 08:51:09 pm
bbdave, er, have i missed something? what do you mean by outrunners?
colin
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 25, 2008, 09:11:34 pm
bbdave, er, have i missed something? what do you mean by outrunners?
colin

Brushless Motor.
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: bbdave on January 25, 2008, 10:47:40 pm
yep sorry thats my dads electric flight lingo(brushless) just wandered what the advantages were in a sub space could be one.
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Subculture on January 26, 2008, 11:03:32 am
An outrunner will provide low revs combined with torque, which enables a direct driven prop- silent, simple and efficient.
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: ASW on January 27, 2008, 07:34:55 pm
I purchased Robbe U 31 month ago. It is nice kit, mostly watertight cylinder. I have it included static dive system. Only I do not like is plastic hull from kit,I do not know, if this can handle 20 kg heavy submarine. I do not thing so, just because this I purchased excellent fiberglass hull. It is more money, but I am sure, I never will have any cracks on hull. Outrunner electric motor is required, because 6 bladed propeler has 10 cm diameter, and it need low RPM, because kavitation. Outrunner have 100 RPM on Volt, so in 12 volt system, it is 1200 RPM.
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 05, 2008, 09:49:04 pm
ASW is right. I received today fiberglass hull for my U 31. I am sure, ABS plastic Hull will have problem keep weight of all lead and water t. cylinder.I never seen so great quality of fiberglass hull as my U 31.Hopefully I will have my sub in the lake soon for test drive
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Stavros on February 05, 2008, 11:36:16 pm
Ok then where did you get your Fiberglass hull from spill the beans so maybee others can purchase them as well

Stavros
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 06, 2008, 03:25:14 pm
I purchased this hull beauty. But I do not thing so, if forum is good place to show manufacturers contact. If somebody is interested about this fiberglas hull for U 31, mail me personal mail. I thing we have here some rules.I expecting dive my U 31 on end of this month. By the way, informations about hull for this sub is on SUBCOMMITTEE. He is selling a lot to USA
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: DavieTait on February 06, 2008, 04:20:46 pm
No such person selling copies of any Robbe hull on Subcommitte , they wouldn't accept an advert and would delete any posts offering such rip off merchandise , to deliberately copy a manufacturers work is copyright theft pure and simple
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Subculture on February 06, 2008, 05:09:34 pm
Davie,

I don't believe the chap has said it's a copy of the Robbe hull, just that it's a GRP 212, which could mean the hull has been moulded from a new pattern. and Peter Zak is advertising U31 epoxy glass hulls in the subswap section at the Sub Committee website.

http://s181686668.onlinehome.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php5?t=6939
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Stavros on February 06, 2008, 05:23:09 pm
I personally believe this chap is DDG 51/ASW/HANSON THE POSTINGS ARE ALL THE SAME funny isnt it

Stavros
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 06, 2008, 05:26:12 pm
Friends, if you just thinking about making copy of Robbe's hull for this sub, ask Robbe, when they put on the market first kit of Type212. Then, take a look, when this guy had informations about his hulls on internet, included pictures. This beauty in NOT copy, I had opportunity to see on my own eyes master model for this hull and plans too. So if you have NOT any informations, please do not tell  anything about copying. By the way, this guy is part of subcommittee a lot of years. On the German market is also aluminium tech rock for this sub, do you thing it is copy also?
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 06, 2008, 05:27:54 pm
I want to ask, is realy prohibited to purchase hull from somebody?
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 06, 2008, 05:34:46 pm
If I want to purchase something for my models, I do not care, what kind of nick name he is using. I am looking on one thing, if this is not copy of somebodys work and how usefull is it for me.  This is the way, how I am purchased this hull, I met this guy personaly, first time ever
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: RantandRave on February 06, 2008, 05:40:09 pm
Are these U31 available for sale?
Website?
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 06, 2008, 05:42:32 pm
I purchased this hull month ago, so it is.
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 06, 2008, 05:53:05 pm
If you will check IGU Austria,there are two guys, who are selling hull in dimension for Robbes WTC and one is bigger
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Mankster on February 06, 2008, 05:54:25 pm
Are these U31 available for sale?
Website?


Here one http://www.pandanmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/Robbe_Submarines_Section.html
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 06, 2008, 06:07:46 pm
Check www. lindinger.at or www. der-schweighofer.at
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Barty230 on February 06, 2008, 06:29:34 pm
Hi I am thinking abut buying one of theses Robbi subs and was thinking thta hull not strong enough so can u give contact no for me to ring for hull info ta ta
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: DavieTait on February 06, 2008, 08:00:04 pm
The only person I know of that is selling a Type 212 sub kit , apart from Robbe , was Steve Neil ( owner of Subpirates site ) who has passed the masters over to Dave Merriman
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 07, 2008, 07:47:28 am
On the marketare several manufacturers, who are producing Type 212 sub as a kit, with out passing master over David Merriman,because they are living in Europe, not in Virginia. Check IGU Austria, they are producing 3 different hulls.You can purchase whole Type212 included RC, price is around 2200 eur
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: DavieTait on February 07, 2008, 12:38:27 pm
Well from Atomic Subs a Subdriver 2.5 (TM Dave Merriman ) for the Steve Neil designed 212 would be $435 ( thats the Caswell Inc Price and would be bundled with a full resin and white metal fittings kit ) and at a guess the hull and full fittings kit roughly another $500 so for $1000 ( including shipping )/685euro's/£514 for a super detailed fully static diving 1/96th scale model , I know I would prefer the Steve Neil designed sub over the Robbe kit mainly due to the big difference in price and the Subdriver which can be moved between models unlike the Robbe dry hull system.
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 07, 2008, 12:52:52 pm
I am sure, it is big difference in the price, I purchased my hull for 250 Eur. Made of epoxy resin, not polyester, included paint job, what is done directly to the moulds.If I will buy sub from USA, it is plus 200 dollars for shipping.
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 14, 2008, 08:02:48 am
instalation of static dive system
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: colin-stevens on February 14, 2008, 10:10:22 am
How about some more to fill our voyeristic tendancies
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Hansen on February 14, 2008, 03:14:34 pm
I will send here more pictures soon
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: 212 on March 31, 2008, 08:53:06 pm
When you will put here more pictures of this sub? We want to see them!!!!!!
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: 212 on April 01, 2008, 08:15:26 pm
Thanks for informations about fiberglass hull for this submarine. I placed order today, hopefuly I will have it soon. Today I received kit from Robbe, it is GREAT looking kit. But hull is very thin
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: 212 on April 16, 2008, 03:58:12 pm
WOW!!!!!!! I just picked up on post office my new hull Type 212. Quality is EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: 212 on April 16, 2008, 03:59:43 pm
Rear part of the hull and access panel
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: 212 on April 16, 2008, 04:01:53 pm
Great details
Title: Re: U-31
Post by: Martin (Admin) on April 17, 2008, 08:51:54 am

212 banned from Forum for providing misleading information and therefore against this forum guidelines.

Everyone expected that anyone that posts on Mayhem would be candid and truthful.


Martin - Forum Admin.