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Title: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: SailorGreg on October 31, 2014, 10:35:43 am
We have a hobby where the occasional blood-letting is part of the fun.  Once upon a time you wiped the blood away, slapped on an elastoplast and got on with things.  A couple of days later you peeled off the plaster, usually leaving a sticky residue of adhesive that provided endless hours of amusement picking it off.   O0

Today, the plaster seems to stay in place for about 30 minutes before dropping off and allowing an unwanted smear of blood over the model/shirt/wife or whatever.   >>:-(   OK, no adhesive residue but, frankly, no adhesive!   >:-o   I have resorted to putting a layer of PVC tape over the plaster to try and get it to stay put for a few hours.  (Having once had a rather unpleasant infection through a cut I am a little reluctant to rely purely on the PVC tape!)

Is there a plaster that stays stuck, or are they all the same?  Are those blue ones that catering staff use any better?  I'm fed up with paying for a product that completely fails in its primary function!  Any suggestions?

Greg
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: inertia on October 31, 2014, 11:12:58 am
Greg
I've found pretty much the same thing, so these days I stick to (ouch) the old-fashioned 'fabric dressing strip' branded Elastoplast. It's the non-waterproof type that you cut into strips from a long piece off a roll and goes soggy when wet, but it still sticks like the proverbial brown stuff to a blanket. The waterproof type seems to be the worst at sticking while other manufacturers' fabric types are still not very adhesive.
Hope this helps. BTW cyano glue is a great help for a cut - after all, that's what it was originally designed for.
Dave M
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: grendel on October 31, 2014, 12:59:33 pm
masking tape for cuts is my preference.
Grendel
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: SailorGreg on October 31, 2014, 01:07:52 pm
Thanks Dave - I didn't know you could still get the "real thing".  I'll have to keep my eyes open next time I am dragged to the shops.  Current first aid stocks have been supplied by the Boss - and she seems immune from scalpel cuts!

Greg
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Netleyned on October 31, 2014, 01:19:56 pm
Elastoplast every time  :-))


Steer clear of the shop and discount stores offerings.


Blue not much better.
Pass your dinner past a metal detector and you
will know its there if its fallen off finger %%


Ned

Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: chipmonk on October 31, 2014, 03:08:18 pm
Hi guys,  try micropore adhesive dressing tape over the plaster. It sticks like you know what to a shovel. And it comes off cleanly.It is used by the ton at work (our local hospital).I believe it is available in boots.
Cheers Chris M
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 31, 2014, 03:52:10 pm


Seleotape and baby wet wipe is my current favorite!
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Shipmate60 on October 31, 2014, 10:36:48 pm
Superglue, it was made for holding battlefield wounds together and from personal experience is excellent.


Bob
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Stavros on October 31, 2014, 10:46:03 pm
you can not beat toilet paper and masking tape  :-)) O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
 
 
Dave
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: essex2visuvesi on November 01, 2014, 01:30:08 am
you can not beat toilet paper and masking tape  :-)) O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
 
 
Dave


As long as its not the Izal stuff from our school days  >:-o
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: slug on November 01, 2014, 07:30:13 am
always used black pepper and tape...my dad swore by black pepper dries things up and he said it was antiseptic...whether true or not don't know .......tony
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: derekwarner on November 01, 2014, 08:07:56 am
Guys.......unless you cut an artery & the blood is being pumped out you don't need any form of Elastoplast tape or band-aids or PVC tape  >>:-(

1. dap the wound with a little minded garlic.....
2. dap a little Mercurochome solution 2%WW over the garlic
3. eat the left over garlic
4. wash it down with a glass of RED ned

Repeat point 4. until the pain has gone....... {-)  simple..... Derek

What ever you do.......do not mix the Mercurochome with the red ned.......both mercury & chromium are not nice  [hexavalent castogenics   <*< from memory]

Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Brian60 on November 01, 2014, 08:46:14 am
Mercurochrome is not available in the UK Derek, not even for hospital use. Best here is something like Povidone Iodine, available from the likes of Boots the Chemist.
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: SailorGreg on November 01, 2014, 10:43:29 am
Well, I am very impressed with the range of solutions offered here - thanks folks.  But the top prize has to go to Derek's red wine - I might test that out even before I cut myself again, just to make sure I have the right technique for applying it properly.   :} :} :}

Greg
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: sparkey on November 01, 2014, 11:15:55 am
 :-)) Greg,can you report back to us when you have sobered up,Ray. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Klunk on November 01, 2014, 05:50:02 pm
you can not beat toilet paper and masking tape  :-)) O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0

I was told that a couple of years ago at Warwick dave! I believe you have pictures! !!!
 
 
Dave
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Klunk on November 01, 2014, 05:53:36 pm
Vinegar and best brown paper.
Ps I can't use elastoplast,  the glue peel my skin off after a couple of hours and it's always itchy!
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: SailorGreg on November 01, 2014, 05:57:10 pm
:-)) Greg,can you report back to us when you have sobered up,Ray. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Could take a while.  I plan on a very thorough test.
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Brian60 on November 02, 2014, 07:34:56 am
Vinegar and best brown paper.
Ps I can't use elastoplast,  the glue peel my skin off after a couple of hours and it's always itchy!

That's because you are allergic to the adhesive on the tape. That is why they introduced Micropore tape, available again from Boots, it is supposed to be hypo-allergenic, ie anyone can use it. Thing is its a paper based tape so not very flexible once applied.
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Ron Rees on November 05, 2014, 11:47:27 pm
Superglue, it was made for holding battlefield wounds together and from personal experience is excellent.

When my wife was having Chemotherapy, she feel while carrying wine glasses and landed on them. The cut was very big and squirting but try as I may she would not hear of going to hospital, having spent all day there already and dinner guests arriving in 20 minutes!
Out came the Runny superglue, and after a very messy few minutes I had sealed up the 1 inch long very deep gash. The arm gradually got more and more swollen as the blood poured into the area so I bound it up tight with bandage. A week later, back at the hospital for blood tests, the Doctor went ballistic at me and insisted that he look at the wound and treat it properly. Removing the dressing, there was a bit of bruising and a thin red line, now you can't even tell.
So....Always keep a bottle runny Cyano in the fridge!
 
Ron.

Bob
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Brian60 on November 06, 2014, 08:50:34 am
Superglue was actually discovered in 1942 by an american scientist looking for new plastics, accidentally mixing up various components he found that rather than a plastic compound he had discovered an instaent glue. This eventually had the spinoff of the sterile superglue as used on later battlefields, it was never used during WW2.
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Netleyned on November 06, 2014, 09:09:10 am
The guy was looking for a plastic for gunsights.
It was never used because it stuck to everything  {-)
It was re-invented in 1951 by Eastman Kodak as a glue.
Used by Medics in Vietnam.


Ned
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: U-33 on November 06, 2014, 10:02:13 am
What was that stuff that me old mum used to pour on cuts...horrible yellow stuff, stung like heck, but by heck did it ever work. Iodine, was it?


Rich
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: grendel on November 06, 2014, 12:49:09 pm
my wife was bitten by the cat last week, right the way through her little finger (he didn't want to eat the worming tablet) so off to A&E we trot, out came a big bottle of Povidone iodine, was splashes over the bit, then the tetanus injection, and some antibiotics and we were in and out in about 20 minutes.
So they are still using iodine on wounds even now.
Grendel
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Brian60 on November 06, 2014, 05:00:18 pm
Yep the NHS use povidone iodine by the tankerload!
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 06, 2014, 06:16:55 pm
 
 Iodine, that brings back memories....must of them very stingy!
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 06, 2014, 06:19:08 pm
my wife was bitten by the cat last week, right the way through her little finger (he didn't want to eat the worming tablet) so off to A&E we trot, out came a big bottle of Povidone iodine, was splashes over the bit, then the tetanus injection, and some antibiotics and we were in and out in about 20 minutes.
So they are still using iodine on wounds even now.
Grendel

That reminds me of one of my favorite posts...


How To Give A Cat A Pill   
 

1. Pick up cat and cradle it in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand.  As cat opens mouth, pop pill into mouth.  Allow cat to close mouth and swallow. 

2. Retrieve pill from floor and cat from behind sofa. Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process. 

3. Retrieve cat from bedroom, and throw soggy pill away. 

4. Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm, holding rear paws tightly with left hand. Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right forefinger. Hold mouth shut for a count of ten. 


5. Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of wardrobe. Call spouse from garden. 

6. Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, hold front and rear paws. Ignore low growls emitted by cat. Get spouse to hold head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth Drop pill down ruler and rub cat's throat vigorously. 

7. Retrieve cat from curtain rail, get another pill from foil wrap. Make note to buy new ruler and repair curtains. Carefully sweep shattered figurines and vases from hearth and set to one side for gluing later. 

8. Wrap cat in large towel and get spouse to lie on cat with head just visible from below armpit. Put pill in end of drinking straw, force mouth open with pencil and blow down drinking straw. 

9. Check label to make sure pill not harmful to humans, drink 1 beer to take taste away. Apply Band-Aid to spouse's forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap. 

10 . Retrieve cat from neighbor's shed. Get another pill. Open another beer. Place cat in cupboard, and close door on to neck, to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert spoon. Flick pill down throat with elastic band. 

11. Fetch screwdriver from garage and put cupboard door back on hinges. Drink beer. Fetch bottle of Scotch. Pour shot, drink. Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus shot. Apply whiskey compress to cheek to disinfect. Neck another shot. Throw away T-shirt and fetch new one from bedroom. 

12. Call fire department to retrieve the damn cat from across the road. Apologize to neighbor who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid cat. Take last pill from foil wrap. 

13. Tie the little xxxxxxx's front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table, find heavy-duty pruning gloves from shed. Push pill into mouth followed by large piece of fillet steak. Be though about it. Hold head vertically and pour 2 pints of water down throat to wash pill down. 

14. Consume remainder of scotch. Get spouse to drive you to the emergency room, sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearm and removes pill remnants from right eye. Call furniture shop on way home to order new table. 

15 . Arrange for RSPCA to collect mutant cat from hell and call local pet shop to see if they have any hamsters.



How To Give A Dog A Pill

1. Wrap it in bacon.

2. Toss in the air.


I know this this on here already but I need a laugh at the end of the week and this always does it for me!   :-))

Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: boman on November 07, 2014, 05:55:33 am
That reminds me of one of my favorite posts...


How To Give A Cat A Pill   
 

1. Pick up cat and cradle it in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand.  As cat opens mouth, pop pill into mouth.  Allow cat to close mouth and swallow. 

2. Retrieve pill from floor and cat from behind sofa. Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process. 

3. Retrieve cat from bedroom, and throw soggy pill away. 

4. Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm, holding rear paws tightly with left hand. Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right forefinger. Hold mouth shut for a count of ten. 


5. Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of wardrobe. Call spouse from garden. 

6. Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, hold front and rear paws. Ignore low growls emitted by cat. Get spouse to hold head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth Drop pill down ruler and rub cat's throat vigorously. 

7. Retrieve cat from curtain rail, get another pill from foil wrap. Make note to buy new ruler and repair curtains. Carefully sweep shattered figurines and vases from hearth and set to one side for gluing later. 

8. Wrap cat in large towel and get spouse to lie on cat with head just visible from below armpit. Put pill in end of drinking straw, force mouth open with pencil and blow down drinking straw. 

9. Check label to make sure pill not harmful to humans, drink 1 beer to take taste away. Apply Band-Aid to spouse's forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap. 

10 . Retrieve cat from neighbor's shed. Get another pill. Open another beer. Place cat in cupboard, and close door on to neck, to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert spoon. Flick pill down throat with elastic band. 

11. Fetch screwdriver from garage and put cupboard door back on hinges. Drink beer. Fetch bottle of Scotch. Pour shot, drink. Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus shot. Apply whiskey compress to cheek to disinfect. Neck another shot. Throw away T-shirt and fetch new one from bedroom. 

12. Call fire department to retrieve the damn cat from across the road. Apologize to neighbor who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid cat. Take last pill from foil wrap. 

13. Tie the little xxxxxxx's front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table, find heavy-duty pruning gloves from shed. Push pill into mouth followed by large piece of fillet steak. Be though about it. Hold head vertically and pour 2 pints of water down throat to wash pill down. 

14. Consume remainder of scotch. Get spouse to drive you to the emergency room, sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearm and removes pill remnants from right eye. Call furniture shop on way home to order new table. 

15 . Arrange for RSPCA to collect mutant cat from hell and call local pet shop to see if they have any hamsters.



How To Give A Dog A Pill

1. Wrap it in bacon.

2. Toss in the air.


I know this this on here already but I need a laugh at the end of the week and this always does it for me!   :-))

I own 2 cats. And pay a vet to feed them pills. Best money I spend on the little sods.
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: grendel on November 07, 2014, 01:43:58 pm
we have 7 cats, just buying the pills is a big enough hit in the wallet. we did have 2 of us, I had the 4 feet, but it was still my fault he bit her (he is the biggest of the lot, and even with 2 of us holding on could wriggle enough to be difficult.
Grendel
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: essex2visuvesi on November 07, 2014, 01:57:20 pm
Off topic I know, but there is a excellent book called "how to live with a calculating cat" it's a must read for anyone with a cat. Very funny, and has a section on giving medication.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Live-With-Calculating-Cat/dp/0671220403 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Live-With-Calculating-Cat/dp/0671220403)
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: SailorGreg on November 07, 2014, 07:07:15 pm
And, if I remember correctly, a companion volume "How to live with a neurotic dog"   {-) {-)

Did Ronald Searle illustrate them or is my memory befuddled by "How to be Topp"?  Who remembers that?

(It's my thread so I think I can continue the hijack  %))

Greg

Edit - just followed the link and there's the "Dog" book - but clearly not Searle illustrations so another failure of brain  :((
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: malcolmfrary on November 07, 2014, 07:17:33 pm
Not sure about wrapping a dog in bacon....... {:-{
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: SailorGreg on November 07, 2014, 07:18:34 pm
 {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: dougal99 on November 07, 2014, 08:37:24 pm
Yea that is a bit rash!  8)
Title: Re: Non-sticky plasters
Post by: essex2visuvesi on November 08, 2014, 12:45:06 am
And, if I remember correctly, a companion volume "How to live with a neurotic dog"   {-) {-)

Did Ronald Searle illustrate them or is my memory befuddled by "How to be Topp"?  Who remembers that?

(It's my thread so I think I can continue the hijack  %) )

Greg

Edit - just followed the link and there's the "Dog" book - but clearly not Searle illustrations so another failure of brain  :((


Yes there was a dog one too..... I inherited the books from my aunt years ago, no idea where they are now tho