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Title: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: derekwarner on November 02, 2014, 08:33:41 pm
There are some low lifes about.....  <*<

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2666777/heartless-theft-of-gongs-steam-locomotives/?cs=300 (http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2666777/heartless-theft-of-gongs-steam-locomotives/?cs=300)

We considered them as securely locked in a storage shed complex behind padlocks and chains....but no  >>:-(

Derek
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Brian60 on November 02, 2014, 10:09:37 pm
Sorry to hear that Derek.

The one good thing you have in your favour is that they are a specialised piece of kit. There will be very few places they could be sold and any buyer if they are honest themselves will know they have been knicked and won't touch them!
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: dougal99 on November 02, 2014, 10:18:32 pm
Heartless  Thief is a tautology. I hope your property is soon found and returned but there is always the possibility it was stolen to order. A pox on all their houses.  <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*<
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: derekwarner on November 02, 2014, 11:26:16 pm
Thanks Guys... a little explanation....
____________________________________________________

From: Derek Warner [mailto:dlwarner@bigpond]
Sent: Monday, 3 November 2014 8:43 AM
To: 'Danielle Warner'
Cc: Barbara Wells; Geoffrey Smith; Gary Mackenzie
Subject: Heartless Thieves Steal ILS Engines

•   No impact on running days……we ran on Saturday & Sunday for private pre-Christmas parties……same next weekend
•   The gates are securely locked….we though the buildings were too…this will  now be upgraded
•   They used two wheel barrows to transport the engines to the roadway through the bushes on Squires Way
•   Each engine has a unique serial number stamped into the boiler for the steam certificate….so they cannot be sold
•   Every time an owner goes to an alternate venue, he must display his valid boiler certificate & S/n witnessed before firing the boiler
•   All model steam clubs in Australia are affiliated …so each club was contacted on Saturday afternoon with picture detail & S/n etc
•   One thought is they were stolen for the copper boiler for scrap $ money
•   Remember a year or so ago morons stole brass plaques from the Crematorium then took them to a scrap metal dealer….who called the police :police:
•   The  :police: today will contact all NSW scrap metal dealers that are on their database register
•   One of the engines took the owner approx 5 years to build

•   Thanks Barb….I knew you tell other steamers………………….

From: Danielle Warner [mailto:seacreatureadmin@bigpond
Sent: Monday, 3 November 2014 7:57 AM
To: dlwarner@bigpond
Subject: RE: Heartless Thieves Steal ILS Engines

Hi Dad

I was planning to call you about this today. How awful! Did it impact on the running days on the weekend? Do the police have any clues?

Xx
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
From: Barbara Wells [mailto:BWells@berendsen
Sent: Monday, 3 November 2014 7:34 AM
To: 'Derek Warner'
Subject: RE: Heartless Thieves Steal ILS Engines

I saw this on the Lost Wollongong Facebook page and I shared the story to some of my railway friends. They will keep their eyes & ears out  %)
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: derekwarner on November 05, 2014, 03:18:41 am
Regrettably the images both the before and after condition >>:-( ..... Derek

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2674017/broken-pieces-of-model-trains-found-in-lake/?cs=300
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on November 05, 2014, 03:44:58 am
That is really awful.
It is really sad to see the state of the remnants that have been recovered.


 {:-{
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: GAZOU on November 05, 2014, 05:58:17 am
It is really distressing!
But to where will go the human stupidity ?

 >>:-( <*< <*< <*<
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: SailorGreg on November 05, 2014, 09:14:41 am
 <:( <:( <:(
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: B.B on November 05, 2014, 09:32:01 am
Sorry to see that , low life trash if they are caught any of their treasured possessions , they should be put in a pile and make them watch while their crap is destroyed  <*<
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 05, 2014, 09:59:02 am

THAT IS AWFUL NEWS.

My condolences to the club. Lets hope these people are caught when they try to sell the scrap metal..


ken
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: U-33 on November 05, 2014, 10:00:23 am
Why?


What satisfaction can anyone get out of stealing somebody's prize possession, then damaging it to that state and finally dumping it in a lake? Stealing it and selling it...yes, I can see the reason behind that, but to steal it and then leave it like that? Absolutely senseless to me...


Rich
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: slug on November 05, 2014, 10:18:12 am
I am lost for words...any news of the other loco? the before and after photos should be put in the local press...might make people think a bit what mindless people are about...good luck to the club...hope they can get over this and still give rides on open days...all the best tony
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: radiojoe on November 05, 2014, 11:07:56 am
That's terrible Derek, I don't know why but after nearly 70 years I'm still shocked at what some people will do, thank god they are a minority I sincerely hope they get their punishment some day.  <*< :police: 
Joe.
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Brian60 on November 05, 2014, 11:10:48 am
That is truly wilful damage.

There was no need to damage them that much just to remove copper tubing! This looks more like strip the copper and then do so much damage to the remains that they cannot be salvaged by anyone- truly spiteful! Looking at them I suppose the club can recover parts like drive wheels etc for use on new models, but that is no consolation.
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: FsASTSyd1 on November 05, 2014, 12:33:18 pm
Maybe it's my age but I despair at some of the human race, if as has been suggested all this was just to get some metal to sell, how much might they get for the bits they took, at the stolen rate not legal scrap sale. Doubt it paid for the fuel they used to carry out the theft. One hopes that your courts are a bit better than ours, if they ever get caught that is, String them up by their b****, might drain some sense into their brains, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for that.
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: U-33 on November 05, 2014, 01:08:57 pm
My 'ladyfriend' has just posted this on her Facebook page...the lowlife seems to be getting lower.

''Last week I saw a lady who lives in the flats out the back being taken away by an ambulance. I've just had the police at my door because she was burgled while she was away, and they wondered if I saw or heard anything. How sick is that! I hope they get the b*****d!!!!''


Rich
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: FsASTSyd1 on November 05, 2014, 01:30:24 pm
Rich,
       think they are down about as far as they can go, wasn't it only a week or so ago there were reports of a house being burgled whilst everybody was at the owner/ex owners funeral.


Syd J
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: U-33 on November 05, 2014, 02:10:42 pm
It's got ridiculous now...if I'd have even thought of doing anything like that when I were a lad, my father would have made sure that sitting down would have been nigh on impossible for a week or two.


The police aren't allowed to issue anything more than a 'stern' warning...whatever happened to the old fashioned village bobby who would issue his own form of punishment? A thick ear from him worked wonders...and another one was waiting for you when you got home.


Bring back the old days...


Rich
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: dave301bounty on November 05, 2014, 07:56:51 pm
my most sincere sympathy goes to you ,what a terrible thing to happen ,WHY who/ever ,so very sorry .Dave .
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Wetwater on November 05, 2014, 08:46:03 pm
 <:(   Speechless.   <:(   Apart from the words I can't print here.   <*<
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 05, 2014, 08:57:44 pm
It's just about impossible to get into the mindset of someone who would do that.

Colin
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Stavros on November 05, 2014, 09:16:38 pm
Words simply FAIL me and if I could put into words how I felt when I saw what the low lives had done  <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< I would like a load of others on here receive a lifetime ban  O0 O0 O0
 
 
Dave.................................feeling so sorry for the lads who put this together
 
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: grendel on November 05, 2014, 09:24:58 pm
words cannot express.............
Grendel
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: derekwarner on November 05, 2014, 09:44:14 pm
slug.......

1. members will scuba dive and also use a boat mounted under water image finder [sonar fish finder?] in the watery grave area  {:-{
2. we have 200 guests on Saturday and another 200 booked for Sunday... so we cannot disappoint them........  :-))

Brian56

3. the engine is approx. 30 years old........even the main wheels sets axles are bent  <*< .....there is literally nothing that can be economically reclaimed

Derek
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Peter Fitness on November 05, 2014, 10:12:55 pm
I am simply speechless >:-o  The senselessness of it is staggering and, like Colin, I am unable to comprehend the mindset of such idiots. It reminds me of when our club's storage container was broken into in 2008. The would be thieves did not find anything of marketable value so they set fire to it, after first pushing our ride-on mower (which they could not start) into the (salt water) lake. Total damage was estimated by the insurance company at A$15,000. However, that pales into insignificance compared to the Wollongong theft, where years of painstaking and loving work were wantonly destroyed for a few dollars worth of copper. At least, thanks to the generosity of some local people and businesses, plus the insurance money, we were able to get going again fairly quickly. The locos, on the other hand, are practically irreplaceable.


Peter.
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: raflaunches on November 05, 2014, 10:22:38 pm
I'm absolutely disgusted, whoever is responsible for this disgraceful act should have many un-name able things done to them, can't believe they would go to that much effort to destroy such fantastic works of modelling. My sincere sympathy to the club and builders. <:(
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: carlmt on November 05, 2014, 10:36:54 pm
Nick - The scum that did this wouldnt recognise serious modelling if it jumped up at slapped them across the face!
 
I am at a total loss for words on this......vigilante justice might be sweet, but murder still carries a heavy penalty.......
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: TheLongBuild on November 05, 2014, 10:37:31 pm
No Ideas as to the culprits ?.
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: McGherkin on November 06, 2014, 01:22:37 am
That is absolutely heartbreaking. To think of all those hours, effort, money and, devotion and dedication being destroyed and dumped in a lake... Words fail me.
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: slug on November 09, 2014, 07:36:01 pm
any news of the second loco...tony
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: derekwarner on November 09, 2014, 08:26:18 pm
slug...second engine found with little damage.....we think they got cold feet..... Derek

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2679063/second-model-train-recovered-in-berkeley/
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 09, 2014, 08:39:49 pm
Good news.      :-))


ken
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Stavros on November 09, 2014, 08:58:57 pm
Excellent NEWS indeed
 
Dave
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Shipmate60 on November 09, 2014, 09:05:00 pm
They should have cold everything.
A trip to Siberia would be too good for them.


Bob
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: derekwarner on November 09, 2014, 10:57:47 pm
Guys......thanks for your comments but locks only keep honest people out  <*<

So again....whilst it is no consolation to the owner of the Warrick engine........a local Illawarra security company  :-)) has offered to provide a courtesy back to base electronic security alarm system for the ILS storage complex...our only cost will be some display signage [which we keep under lock & key] & put them out each monthly public running day where we commonly get 600 to 700 members of the public attending ....so good advertising for this new sponsor [the security co]

The Wollongong community spirit has been amazing in response to our plight....with offers of assistance & donations from a number of other Illawarra business groups

ILS will be publically acknowledging these companies or groups in due course  O0........................... Derek

Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: slug on November 10, 2014, 09:22:16 am
so pleased that the second loco has been found...with little damage...I think the public and local community have done you proud...may you all manage to go forward and get loads of support...on open days maybe the odd bucket for donations......tony
Title: Re: Heartless Thieves Steal 5" Gauge Steam Locomotive Engines from Wollongong
Post by: Peter Fitness on November 10, 2014, 10:12:38 pm
Good news indeed, Derek. Unfortunately, Blowfly is a relatively simple loco, originally intended for beginners to steam model engineering, whereas the destroyed loco was much more complex. It's still a ray of sunshine on a very dismal event, however, and I'm sure the club will be relieved.


Peter.