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Title: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 05, 2014, 03:50:24 pm
Hello!
Some pics of my latest project, disguised in "primer".
Any ideas of what it is and what it was?  ok2
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 05, 2014, 04:36:24 pm

Would it be a cruise ship ?  maybe like the one pictured on the box it's sitting on.

Cheers

Ken

 
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: cos918 on November 05, 2014, 04:56:32 pm
Hi Hama
no idea at the moment ,i will have a look but dont recal see a ferry of that shape. From the funnel back wards it screams of superfast

john
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: Netleyned on November 05, 2014, 04:59:04 pm
Is it a very modern Hurtigruten ?
Ned
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 05, 2014, 05:45:18 pm
We'll, Ken it's not a cruiseship but it has been!  ok2
John, yes the stern is inspired by the Superfasts.   :-))
Ned, it is not a superfast Hurtigruten!  :D
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 05, 2014, 05:49:58 pm
Okey, it's a freelance design inspired by these two vessel types;
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: cos918 on November 05, 2014, 06:02:23 pm
That explanes it . I was thinking i had never seen that boat before. Will your model be RC?


john
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 05, 2014, 06:25:35 pm
Yes John, it will be RC. This is really a rebuild of my Revell Queen Mary model. It is modelled to about 1:250 instead of the 1:400. Therefore I've increased the draft by 10mm and remodelled the bulb. There is a "ducktail" at the stern as a rest of the rounded stern. The sides have been dressed with styrene to remove all the portholes and stuff. I hope she will perform well with the extra draft and added weight, I tested here in that condition before the rebuild.
Some more pics!
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: cos918 on November 05, 2014, 07:10:18 pm
very nice.
I would have never guessed that she started with a QM2 hull. very nice

john
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 05, 2014, 09:11:35 pm
Thanks!
I'll see when I can get some more paint on her as it's off to work tomorrow for a few days.
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: carlmt on November 05, 2014, 10:42:31 pm
Hama - That is ingenious!!!!!
Excellent lateral thinking there...........I like it!!!!
Keep us all posted eh?
Carl :-))
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 05, 2014, 10:47:48 pm
Thank you Carl! Watch this space for updates, in a while...
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 13, 2014, 08:33:32 am
Update!
Just had two days off from work, better use them! Put some more colour on, starting to see how she will look when finished.
All the best!
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: cos918 on November 14, 2014, 07:25:43 pm
looking good

john
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 14, 2014, 09:19:03 pm
Thank you John!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: JaS on November 15, 2014, 09:49:49 am
agree!..very nice rebuild.. :-)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 15, 2014, 10:06:26 am
Thanks Jack!
Perhaps I can sell the design to the ferry company, Destination Gotland/Gotlandsbolaget! %)
Have a nice weekend!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 19, 2014, 09:56:07 pm
Hello!
Some more paint on!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 22, 2014, 01:45:56 pm
Got a opportunity to make the maiden voyage today, unfortunately the phone died when I started to record a video but I got three pics.
The test was a success! She was very stable and performed well with her extra draft. I ballasted her with wheel weights and they are at the very bottom of the hull along with the flat battery. Need to ad some details and lifeboats. Can't really decide if I shall paint the rubbing streaks red or leave them white?
I'll make a video eventually.
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 23, 2014, 01:25:01 pm
Today I had the battery in the cellphone charged, but then the memory space got full!! Well well, another day perhaps. But I got two pics and a short video showing a high speed turn where you can see how stable she is.
All the best!
Hama
http://youtu.be/fWk6blXzm1c
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: JaS on November 23, 2014, 01:26:28 pm
Super!!!
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 23, 2014, 01:57:43 pm
Thanks Jack!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: carlmt on November 23, 2014, 05:14:47 pm
Excellent model there Hama - The ingenuity is first class......she really looks purpose designed!!!!!
 
As to the rubbing strakes - my view? Keep them white.....
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 23, 2014, 07:25:58 pm
Thanks Carl!
And I think I'll go with your suggestion, keep the rubbing strakes white. :-))
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 24, 2014, 06:47:30 pm
Made another trial run today. We had a southerly gale blowing today so I headed out to sea on a northern shore to see how she handle wind gusts. I'm very happy that she feels perfectly safe even in a heavy wind gust. Wasn't sure of how she would handle during the build but she proved to be all I could ask for. Happy to go on with some detailing eventually.
All the best!
Hama.
http://youtu.be/LfAIf4NgH88
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on December 18, 2014, 08:26:27 am
Hello again!
Done some detailing. When I was cleaning in my workshop I found some plastic railings that I had saved for future use. Had totally forgotten about them but now they came in handy. Sprayed them white and glued them on. Some radars, antennas, nav lights and a water slide from the qm2 kit. Made a fake sternramp as well. Now I need to find some lifeboats.
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: dana futura on December 18, 2014, 09:10:20 am
Very good custom design. Also the idea of modifying a ready hull is very clever.
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on December 18, 2014, 09:56:35 am
Thanks! :-))
It will be a long wait for spring so I can sail her again, wish I had access to your café-pool as it looked Amazing. Temperatures are dropping her so it will probably be ice on the water soon.
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: tobyker on December 18, 2014, 07:49:41 pm
She looks good - fair turn of speed too! Nice one.
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: carlmt on December 18, 2014, 10:19:00 pm
Hej Hama!!
 
You are doing wonders with that ship  :-))  Such a simple idea and yet the end result looks so professional.  I like it  O0 .
Maybe she needs an ice-breaker bow at this time of year  {-) ?
 
Carl
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on December 19, 2014, 12:35:19 pm
Thanks Carl!
Yes in the 70's some baltic ferries were built with ice breaker bow, so why not!!
It was all fun rebuilding this boat, in fact I'd do another one if I come across a qm2 hull some day. With some more modifications to the stern and the bow you could make a scale like Superfast ferry.
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: cos918 on December 19, 2014, 03:32:08 pm
Hi Hama
looking very nice. Rember Finnjet had a bulbus bow and was good for up to 1m of ice .something to with her stupied amount of power LOL.

John
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on December 19, 2014, 04:49:54 pm
Indeed John! I believe that's why they don't build them like that anymore, the increase of engine power on modern ferries. You crush your way through the ice rather than brake it with your weight. I worked on a roro vessel that had 20000hp and bulbous bow, nothing could stop her!
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on March 07, 2015, 10:03:05 am
Hello!
This video clip was posted in the Radio equipment section, put it here too as it has to do with the build. I've programmed the radio to have 3 different modes on this particular model. Manual, cruise and dock mode. Shown on the video is the dock mode, but it wasn't possible to show all manouvers due to lack of available hands! %%
All the best!
Hama
http://youtu.be/RuhSfuwGEHQ
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on August 02, 2015, 09:33:41 pm
Some docking manouvers, more to come...
Hama
http://youtu.be/lsA4N88jldo
http://youtu.be/pjr4jpcgXiM
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: Edmund on September 03, 2015, 08:13:18 am
Excellent videos of ferry docking! Very neat!  We don't see enough of model ships doing realistic manoevres like this. 


I'm wondering if I will be able to dock like this with the train ferry I'm building (Freia) when its complete.  Twin props but no bow thruster - well the original of my ferry didn't have one. 


Anyway excellent video - I look forward to seeing more!
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on September 03, 2015, 11:08:41 am
Hi Edmund and thanks!
You really should make a dock/linkspan with railroad tracks on! Would be great to see the wagons roll on and off!

Here's a video I like. Something happened to the light that gives it a vintage look. You get the feeling of an early summer morning somewhere in the Med perhaps, even the bugs played along acting as seagulls! Unfortunately my daughters didn't play along and can be seen as two giants walking by on the hills in the background!
Hama
http://youtu.be/guqIZSYRdLQ
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: Edmund on September 03, 2015, 12:56:02 pm
The use of slow motion in the video is excellent as well, adding that real touch of authenticity.  Giants in the background?  We can forgive that!  Your boating pond - the Swedish archipelago presumeably - is a fantastic setting as well.  A few years since I stayed with friends there.  I remember night sailing on a yacht through the islands and rocks - scary!
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: Brian60 on September 03, 2015, 01:01:06 pm
There is something missing from each of your videos Hama. The dockworkers catching the mooring ropes and roping the ferry in!

But considering the scale and difficulty of getting tiny humans the size of ants I think its ok to miss them out O0 {-)
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on September 03, 2015, 02:22:51 pm
Haha, your right! Perhaps some tiny clothes and hard hats on some ants would do the trick, that is if I can train them to walk on two legs! %%
Anyway thanks for your compliments!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: ballastanksian on September 03, 2015, 09:57:21 pm
Thanks for sharing your videos. your transmitter is impresive with its array of switches. Your Ferry is very elegant and quite sleek to boot. The sound of motors and thrusters sounded realistic.
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: roycv on September 03, 2015, 10:29:08 pm
Hi Hama, love the idea and it all looks good. 
What scale are the railway items?  HO guage is not far away from 1 : 72 or is there a better scale? 

Will the trains be operational, the mind starts to boggle!  Although thinking about it it would not take much of a rough pond to de-rail the rolling stock.
Great build I am following with interest.
regards Roy
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on September 04, 2015, 09:10:27 am
Thanks both of you.
And Roy, my comments about train ferries was referring to Edmunds excellent build in another thread. My ferry is a freelance design built to a scale of 1:250 if I remember correctly and no trains on her.
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: roycv on September 04, 2015, 10:04:20 am
OOPs sorry Hama I must concentrate more.
regards Roy
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on September 03, 2017, 01:58:46 pm
Hello!
Done some detailing and made operational stern ramp as well as automatic mooring system. Got to try it at our club meeting the other day along with my linkspan.
Had originally named her "Thjelvar", but the shipping company decided to name their latest new building Thjelvar. I then choose Graiper instead. Both names come from the ancient mythology Gutasagan regarding the island Gotland. Thjelvar was the first inhabitant on the island and Graiper one of his grandchildren according to this saga.
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: ballastanksian on September 03, 2017, 02:04:51 pm
As kong as Grendel's mother isn't around! Nice ship by the way. Quite sleek.
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on September 17, 2017, 09:16:40 pm
Hello again!
Put some cars on-board as well as one crew member! He/she will have some company eventually.. Bought some Z-gauge figures and cars.
The maindeck behind the ramp is minimal due to the ruddershafts. I therefore cut the cars in two and glued the fronts against a black background to create an illusion of a loaded car-deck. The rear of the cars are "loaded" in the garage part of the upper deck.
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: Capt Podge on September 17, 2017, 09:25:28 pm
I therefore cut the cars in two and glued the fronts against a black background to create an illusion of a loaded car-deck. The rear of the cars are "loaded" in the garage part of the upper deck.

Now, that's a very clever solution to the lack of space - well thought out Hama. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on September 17, 2017, 09:29:09 pm
Also further work on the linkspan and mooring system. It all works great and could easily be adapted to other boats.
A servo arm moves strong magnets in position on the inside of the hull. One of the fender elements on the dockside has a metal plate. This holds the boat to the dock, the stern is hold in place by fenders. One could have two magnetic points along the hull instead but this was a less complicated way of making it. On my first prototype I had only one servo controlling both magnets and ramp, but two separate servos proved to be more flexible.
Pictures and some videos.
Hama
https://youtu.be/354lplhOjqg (https://youtu.be/354lplhOjqg)
https://youtu.be/Rsug-EMTA1Y (https://youtu.be/Rsug-EMTA1Y)
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on September 17, 2017, 09:31:07 pm
Now, that's a very clever solution to the lack of space - well thought out Hama. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
Thanks! Also quite economic  {-)
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: cos918 on September 18, 2017, 08:21:50 pm
Hello Hama
very nice idea . Nice sailing to


John
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on September 18, 2017, 09:12:32 pm
Thanks John! :-))
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: derekwarner on September 18, 2017, 10:39:05 pm
This is really clever hama...10/10......I also bet they are not expensive as a crew of scale Dockers  {-)

Obviously the magnet buffers have sufficient force to hold the vessel, but the vessel also has sufficient force/power to overcome breakaway resistance :-))

One consideration could be to disguise the magnet buffers assemblies in those pedestrian covered walkways that advance to the ships side after the vessel has actually berthed

Derek

 
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on September 19, 2017, 12:37:47 am
 Thanks Derek!
Yes the idea with the walkway is great! Another idea I had is to fix piano wire to the dockside to represent mooring lines. As you say I can use power to break loose from the connection but the way to do it properly is to just flick a switch to "let go all lines"! :-)
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: derekwarner on September 19, 2017, 02:30:35 am
I suppose it is a blank page.......following is an example of the thought .........[Port of Kobe in Japan]

Shoreside DC electromagnets :o....the only question or downside is the application of the magnetic force/gauss

Can this be induced progressively?.......or is it snap on <*< .....then snap off  <*< ??

Derek
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: Edmund on November 12, 2017, 07:06:30 pm
Here's my very simple solution to docking onto a link span

A tiny magnet attached to the underside of the linkspan attaches to a similar magnet on the bow and the stern of the ship.  Ship approaches and the linkspan automatically attaches.  Even the rails on this train ferry line up!  I tried a magnet on the side of the ship to attach it to the dock also but the Freia couldn't pull away- but not wanting anything complicated - Hama's solution is simple but needs a little bit of engineering to create -  instead I use a guide bar which you can see in the video, but which will be painted black eventually when the dock is completed. The linkspan is enough to hold the boat in dock until you want to sail away.

So if you watch the video through you can see both forward and backwards approaches on to the linkspan.  No bow thrusters used - everything depends on twin props.  It was a rather blustery day and the ship gets blown about a bit!  Now to populate the dock with buildings and paint it.  Others in our club have produced some fantastic docks which we can set up on sailing days.

Enjoy the link to video on YouTube:

 https://youtu.be/vYoDCbTPyuY
Title: Re: New ferry build
Post by: hama on November 15, 2017, 06:05:05 am
Clever idea Edmund! Simple and effective.
Another option would be to run the rod beneath the surface and attache a dolphin/ mooringpost to it. And thats making it complicated again {-)
All the best!
Hama