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Title: Scams etc!
Post by: regiment on December 06, 2014, 01:36:47 pm: just received a letter from international processing center po box 3005 Stafford dc qld 4053 australia saying I have won $80.000.000.00 aus dollars and could I meet them to collect my prize I was 84 yesterday to old to fly all that way so if any mayhemer >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( in australia would like to collect it for me I will go fifty fifty with them Gordon
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Brian60 on December 06, 2014, 06:43:06 pm: Wow 80 million aussie dollars. That must be about 1 euro 60 cents after the exchange rate :}
Title: Re: scam
Post by: derekwarner on December 06, 2014, 08:21:05 pm: regiment ...here is the detail of the company who rents PO Box 3005 is Stafford 4053....QLD in the land of OZ.....interestingly there is also another reference to a Political person of that same address %) ......it's just down the road from our mate rarrartygunner ...so I reckon he should be promoted to the chief investigation officer {-)...& I'll be on 10% of his 50% for the recommendation :P ...... Derek

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trademarkify.com.au%2Flist%2F0%2Fservice%2FWatershift%2520PO%2520Box%25203005%2520DC%2520STAFFORD%2520QLD%25204053%2520AUSTRALIA&ei=emODVIWLH8bamAWz1IHwCQ&usg=AFQjCNGgNG-nEwbfGJZ9TMQcDdFPff8jRg&bvm=bv.80642063,d.dGY
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Peter Fitness on December 06, 2014, 08:59:01 pm: Actually Brian, at the current exchange rate it would be 54,181,976.00 Euro. Deduct the cost of the air fare and there would still be quite a lot left over O0 :} Regiment could even fly first class :-))

Peter.
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Netleyned on December 06, 2014, 09:03:03 pm: A lorra lorra vegemite {-) {-)

Ned
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Dicky-P on December 06, 2014, 09:30:23 pm: Had yet another call from "Microsoft support" telling me my computer is running slow and offering to sort it for me.

Told them where to go

On Watchdog type programmes have been duped into letting them remotely accessing their computers and then accessing their bank details.

Feel sorry for these gullible people.

dickyp
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Bob K on December 06, 2014, 10:38:20 pm: I get at least four nuisance calls a day. Just lately Microsoft engineers with heavy Asian accents, followed by what sounds like the same people trying to "help" me claim my PPI money owed and wanting to know about my "recent car accident" no doubt to encourage me to defraud an insurance company. Each of them insist on repeating the same childish rubbish every day. Do they think that on the 50th attempt I will somehow "relent"?

In fact I get more scam calls then genuine ones.
Title: Re: scam
Post by: inertia on December 06, 2014, 10:57:22 pm: Quote from: Bob K on December 06, 2014, 10:38:20 pm
In fact I get more scam calls than genuine ones.

We went Ex-D about a couple of months ago. Phone calls have gone from maybe six a day to five a week - and none from scammers (we have caller ID, too).
'Tis bliss!
DM
Title: Re: scam
Post by: cabman on December 06, 2014, 11:53:30 pm: I get 2 or 3 nuisance calls per day. I think they're trying to tell me about PPI or claiming for the accident I never had but unfortunately I can't hear what they're saying because my hearing was damaged in the noisy factory that I never worked in. When they ring about that I just say, "Sorry. Can you speak up.?" Very unoriginal but it amuses me and hopefully annoys them.
Title: Re: scam
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 07, 2014, 12:27:30 am: My parents have had a deluge of them over the last week or so, several calls a day from the same number, normally silence on the end of the phone
Finally one time i picked up I actually had a voice on the end of the phone

"hello, we see that you have some problems with your credit report"
"Really? So you have checked my credit report?"
"yes"
"On who's authority? you realise this is against the Financial Standards Authority code of conduct?""
"Well we haven't actually checked your file"
"Ah so you lied then?"
silence
"Not exactly a good way to start a business relationship is it?, either you have lied or broken the law"
Silence
"Do you mind if I use your name in the report I file with the FSA?
...Click...

not heard from them since :-))
Title: Re: scam
Post by: FsASTSyd1 on December 07, 2014, 07:59:16 am: I don't answer any calls that are not recognised by my caller I D, then later check voice mail just in case.
Title: Re: scam
Post by: kinmel on December 07, 2014, 08:59:07 am: I just ask for the second and fiftieth character of the telephone password.

No-one ever calls back
Title: Re: scam
Post by: dougal99 on December 07, 2014, 09:50:36 am: We used to get at least two a day, sometimes the same people, and then they started on my mobile. However, for the past fortnight we've had none on the land line and only one on the mobile. That was from the National Advice Centre who were not giving advice!

I don't know why they stopped but I wish it was because of something I said to offend them <*<

I hope this post isn't tempting fate <:(
Title: Re: scam
Post by: dreadnought72 on December 07, 2014, 11:13:17 am: If you're quick you can Google the number while it's still ringing. Sites like 'whocallsme' will usually give you a good idea of ... ummm ... who calls you. %)

Andy
Title: Re: scam
Post by: mikearace on December 07, 2014, 11:16:46 am: Quote from: dougal99 on December 07, 2014, 09:50:36 am

I don't know why they stopped but I wish it was because of something I said to offend them <*<

I offend them quite regularly and they soon cut me off. When its a female of foreign origin I point out that she rang me not me her and I inform her my wife is out..............that I am just out of the shower...........that I love a lady with a foreign accent..........and ask her if she's alone..............then the phone goes dead. Strange that! Works a treat. When its a guy I just give a tirade of abuse. Again works a treat. Not big and not clever I know but it works.
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Bob K on December 07, 2014, 11:49:03 am: It really makes no difference if you are Naughty or Nice, these Santas have acquired large databases of phone and personal details and will keep hammering away day and night to try to catch the 1% who are dumb enough to fall for their lies. Changing your phone number may help for a while, but after you've informed legit companies of change of number eventually you'll appear back on the databases.

Caller ID is helpful, but increasingly these Asian call centres are displaying spoofed numbers to hide behind.
Having BT block "Withheld" numbers will also block many genuine callers such as hospitals and GP surgeries who withhold their caller ID's. If you have friends abroad then blocking "International" numbers will cut them out. In practice only 1 in 5 leave messages, and they will not realise that you have an international block on.

TPS is IMO a waste of time, and totally ignored by foreign scammers. TPS hardly ever prosecute UK based scammers anyway so no deterrent there.

Until the system and the Law is changed it is a problem we are stuck with.
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Brian60 on December 07, 2014, 12:05:52 pm: They are computerised diallers.

The computer calls random generated numbers, when one rings it stores the number. If it's picked up you are transferred to an operator. If it goes dead, the previous number has connected, but it stores you for next time!

I actually engaged in a 15 minute call with an operator one time and elicited quite a lot of info from them. They try and get over all the info within a 15-20 second window because up to then their call can't be traced and the call to them is free. Over that and they are on borrowed time. During this call they mentioned that now they had my number they would call and call until I relented and gave them the information they wanted!!!!

I called my local telephone line supplier complaints section and relayed what I had been told, they went apeshit! They intercepted all calls on my home line for two weeks. The trace began immediately the phone rang instead of waiting for it to be picked up. I never got a call on my landline at all for that fortnight, the phone company took them all. In two weeks I had received 97 calls all from cold callers, and the majority from the company operating the abusive line. That company had action taken against them and surprise surprise, not a single cold call was received in months.
Title: Re: scam
Post by: jenga on December 07, 2014, 12:35:00 pm: greetings , I was hit in my car at a road juction a few weeks ago, my insurance broker was supposed to handle my claim, however they contracted it out to a company to deal with. they seemed very helpful and said a guy would call next day to sort out repairs for me. He came as promised, looked car over and asked me to sign a consent form to use approved repairer. So I did, well when he left I checked out other forms he gsve me, and it was for injury claim, I had told him I was uninjured before whiule chatting. Now the form said if I did not want to proceed, I was to write within 14 days using the form supplied to the person named on that form or else I would incur all their costs to date. No such form was left, no company name , no contact details. Broker couldnt help, so I went direct to insurer, their legal people were astounded at the tactics used. Next I recieved reams of paper work, including how to claim for whiplash, what to say to doctor etc, also a private doctors appointment(failure to show =cost to me of £250). my i8nsurers finally got it stopped, I reported company to The insurance fraud people, the register of solicitors and trading standards....all replied ...sorry not enough evidence. This firm of ambulance chasers has a terrible reputation and should be closed down, no wonder car insurance is so expensive with people like this making false claims. regards Jenga
Title: Re: scam
Post by: radiojoe on December 07, 2014, 01:37:28 pm: Some years ago I got an official looking letter with a Spanish post mark, stating that I had won the equivalent of 300 thousand pounds in the Spanish lottery, strange as I'd never bought a ticket, it went on to say the money was being held by a firm of Spanish solicitors that would release the money to me if I phoned the number given in the letter to arrange to pay 700 pounds "legal fees", well you can see where this is going, fortunately so could I, I wonder if anyone was caught out. %% %%
Title: Re: scam
Post by: spearfish99 on December 07, 2014, 05:29:18 pm: I had one of the nastier scam calls the other Sunday evening, quite late.

The caller purported to be a policeman from Paddington Green Station who was holding two foreigners who had tried to use my wifes cloned credit card to buy something in one of the big stores in London. When I said that my wife ( who barely ever uses a credit card) wasn't available, he then tried to change the story round to it being my card. When I asked which one, said it was difficult as the card the two had presented was plain with no markings ( as if a store would accept such a thing!) . The voice ,which was a young british asian by the sound of it, then said that I was to contact my card provider IMMEDIATELY!! and then get back to him so he could charge the two once the attempted fraud had been reported to the provider. He gave me the 101 general police number to use rather than a specific number.

One of the advantages of having worked for the local police force as a civvi for 15 years, before retirement, is that you know how a policeman talks . This guy had never spent any time with the police except as a client !! Also I had heard of this scam, somewhere.

It is based on the fact that you are urged to phone your bank straight away after talking to the "police". When you put the phone down they DON'T so when you ring the bank or card provider, you are still talking to the scammers. Depending on which particular version of the scam they are running you are;

1) Asked to provide info to the "bank" to confirm who you are, which of course includes all card numbers and PIN numbers. This allows them to create a clone card.

2) The nastier version is that they ("the bank") say that they need the card for evidence and they will send someone round to collect it . If you give them the address, lo and behold someone turns up and collects the card.

3) As a variant of 2) they try and persuade you to withdraw all the cash from your bank account which they offer to collect from you and hold securely until your account is made secure.

While it sounds a bit outlandish, they do target the elderly in particular ( perhaps I should be aggrieved!) and it does work.
I did ring my local police on my mobile rather than the landline that received the call and reported it. The scammers usually hang on to the phone for up to 10 minutes waiting for outgoing calls , so you need to either use a mobile or wait for a while or they end up pretending to be the local police

My local force were well aware of the scam took details and gave me a NFRC number which pertains to such offences and then got me to call the national body that advises and co-ordinates action on scams like this . They are very helpful and you can call them to report anything iffy or for advice. They are Action Fraud on (in UK) 0300 123 2040 or www.actionfraud.police.uk (http://www.actionfraud.police.uk).

The scam is known as the Paddington Green scam if you want to google it, though God only knows why they always use that station rather than any other. The real police at that location must be thoroughly sick of getting calls there!
Title: Re: scam
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 07, 2014, 06:23:20 pm: I actually know someone who got caught with this scam a few weeks ago >>:-( <*<
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 07, 2014, 07:37:40 pm: Unfortunately people do get caught off guard in these situations which is what the scammers rely on. If you are out of your comfort zone it's not too difficult to be conned.

My Sister is recovering from a rather gruelling course of treatment from cancer during which her husband suddenly died of a stroke. She has recently moved in to a new Park Home and was persuaded to part with £400 for two 'free' fire extinguishers and a five year 'maintenance contract' from cold callers.

The lease arrangement she has with the site owners does stipulate that her property should have fire fighting equipment which is fair enough but not how it should be provided. She can't even lift the extinguishers that have been delivered! She should get her money back as she has invoked the cooling off period and I showed her one of my own rather smaller extinguishers which has a gauge on it showing whether it still has sufficient pressure which is all the 'maintenance' you need. This was not precisely a total scam but it was taking advantage of a vulnerable person. I don't know how these people live with themselves really, they are totally sh****y people in my view,

Colin
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Peter Fitness on December 07, 2014, 09:39:46 pm: Quote from: FsASTSyd1 on December 07, 2014, 07:59:16 am
I don't answer any calls that are not recognised by my caller I D, then later check voice mail just in case.

I do exactly the same O0

Peter.
Title: Re: scam
Post by: spearfish99 on December 07, 2014, 10:55:03 pm: Quote from: Colin Bishop on December 07, 2014, 07:37:40 pm
Unfortunately people do get caught off guard in these situations which is what the scammers rely on. If you are out of your comfort zone it's not too difficult to be conned.

I agree Colin. Since these people are preying on older people, they also rely on the basic trust that this group of people still have for the Police and authority in general. Also a lot of older people prefer to deal with real people and real cash in banking matters, which is becoming increasingly difficult with the number of branches being closed. Many don't like or understand some aspects of the current banking systems, credit cards , etc.

Despite working with computers for a large part of my working life, I do not use electronic banking or money transfer if I can help it. Call me a dinosaur if you like!

What happened to your sister is equally despicable. Don't suppose that a firm that tries this on is a member of a trade association although many of those don't take any action against members unless the story gets in to the papers. I hope that her recovery is going well
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Stavros on December 07, 2014, 11:02:46 pm: I really like it when someone who says your computer is running slow and we can help you to fix it,

My simple ans is when they ask what model you got I simply say Amstrad Pcw 9512 word processor....it is followed by a strange silence as they ask their mates what is that........they come back after a couple of mins with,,,,never heard of that one etc tec tec ...wlel it waastes their time.

Or i simply talk in Welsh with them and boy oh boy is that FUN.............Milbs would wet himeslf with laughter,as i get them going for ages

Dave
Title: Re: scam
Post by: inertia on December 07, 2014, 11:27:41 pm: ff dim ond chwerthin am welsmen fraster ;D
Title: Re: scam
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 07, 2014, 11:48:17 pm: Quote from: Stavros on December 07, 2014, 11:02:46 pm
I really like it when someone who says your computer is running slow and we can help you to fix it,

My simple ans is when they ask what model you got I simply say Amstrad Pcw 9512 word processor....it is followed by a strange silence as they ask their mates what is that........they come back after a couple of mins with,,,,never heard of that one etc tec tec ...wlel it waastes their time.

Or i simply talk in Welsh with them and boy oh boy is that FUN.............Milbs would wet himeslf with laughter,as i get them going for ages

Dave

:D thats got me thinking...... maybe some Finnish next time lol
Title: Re: Scam
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 14, 2014, 04:51:24 am: Sound perfectly legit to me!

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Brown
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 1:14 AM
Subject: Capt. Michael Brown:(Saturday)IIIII

Hello,
My name is Michael Brown an American soldier serving in the Military of the 1st Armored Division in Afghanistan. As you know, we are being attacked by insurgents everyday and car bombings. Based on the United States legislative and executive decision for gradual troop withdrawal process in Afghanistan, I have applied for honorable discharge based on the grounds of reduction in force (RI) as demanded by Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).
Without mincing words, I would want to confide in you that I have in my possession the sum of $10,500,000 USD ( Ten Million five hundred thousand Dollars) which was recovered from a mansion belonging to one of Sadam Hussein’s men who was a crude oil exporter but ran away with his oil loot to Afghanistan. I have this money stored somewhere in an abandoned mine in Kabul waiting for a moment like this to put the money in good use with the help of a reputable and sincere person for investment purposes. This is the reason for contacting you.
I am ready to compensate you with 20% of the funds. The only thing I require from you is just for you to help me move the money out of Afghanistan because Afghanistan is a war zone and also am a uniformed man ,i cannot parade with such an amount. I have already mapped out a strategy of using diplomatic means to move the money out of Afghanistan to your country as I shall inform the diplomat that the box contains your personal research materials. If you are interested, I will send you the full details.

Can I trust you? When you receive this letter, kindly send me an e-mail signifying your interest including the following information such as

(1) Your full names
(2) Your full address
(3) Your Direct Telephone number.
(4) Age And Occupation

In less than four days, the money with my box shall be in your possession. I shall provide you with the full details as soon as I receive your response.
Awaits your urgent response,

Regards,
Captain Michael Brown
Title: Re: scam
Post by: FsASTSyd1 on December 14, 2014, 01:55:36 pm: Ahhh. When I had one of these they (Three Marines) were still in Iraq and had managed to rip off the Government Oil office and wanted to share some of their ill-gotten funds with me, if I would handle the Banking for them :-)) :} :embarrassed: {-)

Syd J
Title: scams
Post by: regiment on December 19, 2014, 08:25:52 pm: wife had a call today was told her computer was playing up would she like it fixed over the phone yes she said what make is it she was asked she replied currys pc world truro the phone went dead next email message from hsbc that my card had been hacked yer do not bank with hsbc next one pay pal saying my account had been hacked do not have a pay pal account emailed the wrong person but I suppose they will get some body I might be 84 but I have all my marbles and a few more
Title: Re: scams
Post by: Bob K on December 19, 2014, 08:33:56 pm: Is there a Public Holiday in India today?

Just wondered, as remarkably I have not had one scam phone call since yesterday.
Maybe Indian Call Centres are having a day off?
Title: Another scam...
Post by: U-33 on March 20, 2015, 02:16:02 pm: A friend of mine posted this on Facebook earlier, I thought it may be worth sharing with you guys.

"To all my friends and family on here. If you book with Travelodge, Trainline or similar companies. Check and read the small print and make sure you read and re read all checkboxes! Reason? You may unwittingly be signing up to a company called completesave.co.u (https://www.facebook.com/completesave)k. They will offer you a money off voucher for future purchases, but if you are not carefull you will be signing up for them to allow to take £10 - £20 a month from your account! When did you give them your card details you may ask? You didnt! The company you booked through did on your behalf unless you UNCHECK a tickbox. I this morning found this out after Making unkown payments to them for 18months! Laura (https://www.facebook.com/laura.m.daynes) booked with Travelodge back in September 2013! So I suggest to you all if you booked online traintickets, rooms etc. Check your accounts. Type in Completesave on Google to see that its a REAL scam, also their facebook page "posts to page" section. I have stopped these payments with the bank , contacted them and will be getting a £60 refund i the next few days, then have to fill in an online form to claim the other £120."
Title: Re: Another scam...
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 20, 2015, 03:45:03 pm: Cheers for that Rich. I shall be on the lookout for that one.

k
Title: Re: Another scam...
Post by: carlmt on March 20, 2015, 06:32:42 pm: I got caught by a very similar scam a couple of years ago....again through Travelodge, but a different name then. Was paying for 8 months before I realised what was going on. I thought the monthly payments were an insurance policy my wife had taken out until I did some digging. Complained to the bank that these were unauthorised payments and the bank reimbursed me without question.

Well done for bringing it up!!!
Title: scam
Post by: regiment on December 02, 2015, 10:24:21 am: had a phone call today from a gentelman from over seas saying my computer has a problem he asked me the make of it and would I switch it on I replied it is an amstad 542 the phone went dead I wonder why gordon
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 02, 2015, 10:30:40 am: Well done Gordon, that's the way to do it!

Colin
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Stavros on December 02, 2015, 10:40:06 am: You forgot the PCW in front 542 and HEY hands off m8 that's MY LINE ha ha

Dave
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on December 02, 2015, 10:40:39 am: If I'm in the mood I ask them which one of my computers is malfunctioning, your computer they say, yes, which one I ask, seeing that you can "see" my computers? and so.............

LB
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Crossie on December 02, 2015, 11:01:17 am: Gordon, I get one of these calls every couple of months and have great fun with them if I'm in the mood and not busy with the time to spare, the trick is to go along with the scam a bit, pretend you're old, a bit deaf, even ga-ga.......... ''wot's that my dear, my computors going wrong?, oh! deary me, which one is it then?......I've got 5 you know.... oh I can't see the numbers on the back because I can't turn it over, it's too heavy, I've got such bad arthritis, do you know a good cure.. etc etc. In fact anything to make them waste their time .
I manage to keep one goon on the phone for over 15 minutes by being deaf, daft and repeatedly misreading a ficticious [but plausible looking] string of numbers and ''forgetting'' where I got to, in the end getting him to read them back in the phonic alphabet , which unfortunately for him he did not know properly, so when he read back ........''niner alpha charlie father [instead of foxtrot] ....my response of ''but you can't know charlie's father he died last year'' sent this clown from Bangaloor or wherever ,was almost in tears of frustration....... all rounded off with a hearty bit of Anglo Saxon instructions to go away!

Trevor
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Plastic - RIP on December 02, 2015, 11:07:57 am: Quote from: Crossie on December 02, 2015, 11:01:17 am
Gordon, I get one of these calls every couple of months and have great fun with them if I'm in the mood and not busy with the time to spare, the trick is to go along with the scam a bit, pretend you're old, a bit deaf, even ga-ga.......... ''wot's that my dear, my computors going wrong?, oh! deary me, which one is it then?......I've got 5 you know.... oh I can't see the numbers on the back because I can't turn it over, it's too heavy, I've got such bad arthritis, do you know a good cure.. etc etc. In fact anything to make them waste their time .
I manage to keep one goon on the phone for over 15 minutes by being deaf, daft and repeatedly misreading a ficticious [but plausible looking] string of numbers and ''forgetting'' where I got to, in the end getting him to read them back in the phonic alphabet , which unfortunately for him he did not know properly, so when he read back ........''niner alpha charlie father [instead of foxtrot] ....my response of ''but you can't know charlie's father he died last year'' sent this clown from Bangaloor or wherever ,was almost in tears of frustration....... all rounded off with a hearty bit of Anglo Saxon instructions to go away!

Trevor

This is what I do - try to ruin their 'calls per hour' work rate. :-))
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Bob K on December 02, 2015, 11:20:09 am: As enjoyable as these games may be, and I have played them myself, it got to the point where 6 or 7 scam calls a day were getting more than tedious. You know, PPI, recent car accident, and of course helpful Microsoft. So I invested in a BT8500 Call Guardian phone, and oh dear I almost miss being constantly interrupted whenever I get to a critical bit of gluing or construction.

If you don't have one, you should. Enter every name and number of anyone you know, including surgery and hospital etc. Anyone else has to announce who they are to give you the opportunity to accept or reject the call. 99% of scam callers just hand up, and move on to another call. the remaining 1% I can block with a single key press. Every so often I check the call register which lists all numbers with date and time.

Not a single scam caller since I bought it. Worth every penny :-))
Title: Re: scam
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 02, 2015, 12:52:18 pm: Quote from: Bob K on December 02, 2015, 11:20:09 am
So I invested in a BT8500 Call Guardian phone, and oh dear I almost miss being constantly interrupted whenever I get to a critical bit of gluing or construction.

If you don't have one, you should.

Definitely worth the investment.
My parents have one
Title: Re: scam
Post by: Crossie on December 02, 2015, 01:49:00 pm: Quote from: essex2visuvesi on December 02, 2015, 12:52:18 pm

Definitely worth the investment.
My parents have one

Yes, while I can get some fun out of 1 scammer every month or so that seems to get past the TPS system, 6 or 7 in a single day would most certainly not be any fun at all and I would most definitely take your advice and buy one of these phones.

Trevor
Title: Re: Scams etc!
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 02, 2015, 02:23:59 pm: I have been checking out the BT8500 and the spec looks very good. The only problem for me would be whether you can turn the volume up loud enough as I an deaf and this phone is not hearing aid compatible. I can use an ordinary mobile with the volume cranked up to max.

Colin
Title: Re: Scams etc!
Post by: Bob K on December 02, 2015, 02:44:30 pm: Colin: At max volume it is not as loud as my mobile on maximum, but still quite loud. I know the problem with modern phones too well!. No socket for external speaker either. I have a separate external bell which helps.
Maybe worthwhile to call BT Customer Service for advice.
Title: Re: Scams etc!
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 02, 2015, 03:04:48 pm: My dad is a little "mutton" and he has no problems with the 8500
Title: Re: Scams etc!
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 02, 2015, 03:18:32 pm: 'My dad is a little "mutton" and he has no problems with the 8500'

Unfortunately I am a lot 'mutton'! When I play music using an amplifier and headphones on the PC my Wife can hear it upstairs in bed! I have been doing a bit more research and I don't think the 8500 is going to be loud enough.

Colin
Title: Re: Scams etc!
Post by: Bob K on December 02, 2015, 04:26:24 pm: According to BBC News a company has just been fined £850,000 for making six million nuisance calls over just six months.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-34984695 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-34984695)

With the TPS a total waste of time lets hope new legal powers from Dec 2014 will similarly target the majority of these scum organisations that often blight peoples lives with incessant harassment.
Title: Re: Scams etc!
Post by: inertia on December 02, 2015, 05:00:10 pm: Colin
We fitted one of these on the advice of #1 son, who is in the bizz. It connects in series with the phone and the socket and it uses the phone's own sounder, and it comes pre-loaded with many known nuisance numbers. If you do get a call and you want to block any more from the same number you just press the button during the call, or you can program it in later via the keypad. Like I often say, it works for me. http://www.cprcallblocker.com/cpr-call-blocker-v108-world-1-call-blocker/ (http://www.cprcallblocker.com/cpr-call-blocker-v108-world-1-call-blocker/)
Dave M
Title: Re: Scams etc!
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 02, 2015, 05:14:52 pm: Quote from: Inertia on December 02, 2015, 05:00:10 pm
Colin
We fitted one of these on the advice of #1 son, who is in the bizz. It connects in series with the phone and the socket and it uses the phone's own sounder, and it comes pre-loaded with many known nuisance numbers. If you do get a call and you want to block any more from the same number you just press the button during the call, or you can program it in later via the keypad. Like I often say, it works for me. http://www.cprcallblocker.com/cpr-call-blocker-v108-world-1-call-blocker/ (http://www.cprcallblocker.com/cpr-call-blocker-v108-world-1-call-blocker/)
Dave M

Those are great but do check compatibility first... We had one and it was not compatible with our cordless phone system.
The company are very good tho, they immediately offered a refund once its incompatibility was discovered
Title: Re: Scams etc!
Post by: boneash on December 02, 2015, 05:39:38 pm: I 've been ex directory and TPS registered for many years and have had no problems with false calls....so far.

I believe its more to do with who you give your number to, through web sites and social media. I don't give it out at all, well not the real one anyway...if really pressed,,

Funny all my parcels get here without phone calls, and the number can't be sold along with the other personal information so many have agreed to give away.
Title: Re: Scams etc!
Post by: radiojoe on December 02, 2015, 05:56:32 pm: I've been getting 3 or 4 e-mails a week from what looks like Paypal, these look very convincing and official, saying things like your account has been limited due to unusual activity, please use the link to confirm your details, etc. When you really read the text it is very bad grammar and to me sounds like a foreigner trying to sound English, also the e-mails are addressed Dear customer or using my e-mail address, Paypal always address you by your full name, I forward these to www.spoof@paypal.com who are investigating them. :police:
Title: Re: Scams etc!
Post by: grendel on December 02, 2015, 06:32:39 pm: the last call I had telling me I had a problem, I asked which one - so he said how many have you got- I truthfully replied 10, but only 6 of them are on at the moment, then he \asked which operating system, so I said well we are running XP, vista, windows 7, 8 and 10, oh and one on linux, and a unix server, which operating system is running slow, he said XP, so that narrows it down to 2 machines says I, which of those is it?
erm - the slower one he says, so I say - oh yes, that one is slow, its got a slow processor and mimimum memory, and is just used as a print server - many thanks, but you have just spent 5 minutes telling me something I already knew, and was aware of, thank you and goodbye.
at which point I will say that my computers hide behind the firewall on my internet connection, so I have full control over what can get in and what out.
Grendel