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Title: What is the point?!!! ( Meat styled vegetarian food )
Post by: Neil on December 07, 2014, 05:42:40 pm
 
They may as well call it Swan, Dodo or Teradactyl.........as there's no meat involved................I just don't understand why if people want to eat quorn ( and I have no objections at all) but why call it a "meat" and one that they don't eat anyway, just to appease their pallets <*< <*< <*<

Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: mickyrubble on December 07, 2014, 05:52:19 pm
But its free range Quorn {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Netleyned on December 07, 2014, 05:55:26 pm
Meat free they are saying, Neil, so no meat.
Looks like Chicken, Tastes like Chicken ????
Trading Standards should be reading the small print.
No Horse in a Beefburger so no Chicken in a meat free
meal.


Ned
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: GAZOU on December 07, 2014, 06:20:28 pm
 ok2
I prefer food of the foie gras, the frogs and the snails.

Roquefort

Profiterroles

Bordeaux

All this is natural O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 07, 2014, 06:29:30 pm
Sacrilege!!!  >>:-( >>:-(
(http://krlllc.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/morning-star.jpg)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: inertia on December 07, 2014, 06:50:58 pm
Sacré bleu!
I wonder what unpleasant chemicals have been smashed together to give us these tasty meat-free treats? And why do you need a farm (Morning Star) to produce veggie bacon? I'm with Jean-Pierre on this - although I draw the line just short of snails................

Profiteroles are natural? In which part of France would that be, J-P - and do you have special dogs to sniff them out?  8)

DM
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: jenga on December 07, 2014, 06:54:45 pm
I bought a six pack of baked beans from co-op (famous brand) and opened two and found not a single bean, just tomato sauce. Co-op wouldnt believe me, said I had taken the beans out....so I insisted they opened the others, all were fine ...til the last one(phew) that had about 20 beans in.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: jenga on December 07, 2014, 06:58:37 pm
wife just reminded me of Tescos own brand jumbo peanuts , old packaging, that staated on the back...may contain nut products! no sh*t sherlock
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: NFMike on December 07, 2014, 07:07:07 pm
And why do you need a farm (Morning Star) to produce veggie bacon?
To grow the vegetables? O0
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 07, 2014, 07:07:35 pm
Did you buy it by mistake Neil?

Beware the campylobacter, could be even worse with the veggie version....

Colin
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 07, 2014, 07:35:09 pm
But its free range Quorn {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

 :-)) :-)) O0 O0

So that makes how many Quorns to an acre.
We will make a fortune here in OZ grazing Quorns %% %% {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) O0 O0
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 07, 2014, 07:38:30 pm
Are they UniQuorns?  %)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Guy Bagley on December 07, 2014, 07:46:28 pm
and to think quorn was developed as a commercial fish food !!!, a micro protein for salmon farms.....my dad was involved many years ago with its development

Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 07, 2014, 07:48:08 pm
Are they UniQuorns?  %)


I see it now,
Australia rights its balance of payments, as  UniQuorn exports exceed all imports $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ %) %)

What is the point?, Money, money money, that is why ABBA is still popular in OZ

Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: grendel on December 07, 2014, 07:49:53 pm
I have opened several cans of cat food, to find a whole tin of gravy, the cats were not at all chuffed with this.
Grendel
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: GAZOU on December 07, 2014, 08:02:29 pm
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Dave

To eat healthily you should not go to the hypermarkets of stores.
It is necessary to cultivate its garden, to make its products, to make its soup, to make its cooking , to buy at youngs producer
When I go in your country I do not know what to eat, everything is under plastic..................
You are responsible for it, and now he is too late for you. You are condemned to eat this kind of thing.

I have a lot of English which(who) live near me, all sound come for the way of living here.

In two months we go with them and from other friends to make an English day.
It is them who treat us (I adore their cakes)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: slug on December 07, 2014, 08:09:24 pm
ready cooked chicken on packaging says contains chicken...smoked mackerel says contains fish...is grass fed beef vegetarian beef ????  regards tony
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 07, 2014, 08:17:11 pm
I am just heating up a Marks & Spencer tinned curry - yum!

Colin
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: jenga on December 07, 2014, 08:32:42 pm
the best "whats is the point" complete and utter waste of time and tax payers money was the road sign I saw on the net .
It said IT IS AN OFFENCE TO DAMAGE THIS SIGN...that was its only purpose, are they totally mad
jenga
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: mickyrubble on December 07, 2014, 09:22:31 pm
I
CAN'T
STAND
ALL
THESE
QUORNY
JOKES
 <:( %% {-) :embarrassed: %)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Neil on December 07, 2014, 11:17:01 pm
Did you buy it by mistake Neil?

May my modelling hand wither and drop off if I EVER  buy any quorn product, Colin............would rather eat the packaging it comes in,  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 07, 2014, 11:41:56 pm
May my modelling hand wither and drop off if I EVER  buy any quorn product, Colin............would rather eat the packaging it comes in,  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

So it is also Quorn, very interesting :o :o :o
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 07, 2014, 11:52:04 pm
veggies shoulb bear this in mind
(http://i.imgur.com/vn4Ht.jpg)


And this
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/66/20/87/6620873c46d6d906235fd96444bdfdb4.jpg)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 08, 2014, 12:10:35 am



 {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

Neil is this really a can of worms %) %) %) O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Calimero on December 08, 2014, 12:41:37 am
Reminds me of this pic:


(http://www.eatmedaily.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/passive.jpg)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 08, 2014, 07:09:13 am


 {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

Neil is this really a can of worms %) %) %) O0 O0 O0

(http://www.http://croydonreptiles.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Zoo-Med-Can-OWorms.jpg)

Also available
And the juices are locked in the can! Yummy!
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Bob K on December 08, 2014, 07:16:25 am
I find this all very confusing.  It is my understanding that vegetarians do not eat meat either because they don't like the taste / texture, or they have moral objections to where meat comes from.  OK so far

Why then to Quorn manufacturers go to so much effort in promoting how closely it replicates the taste and texture of real meat ?  Likely to put vegetarians right off, and do nothing to attract real meat eaters.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Tug Fanatic on December 08, 2014, 07:28:15 am
No guys you just don't get it.

I am vegetarian & just don't understand why you meaties are so threatened by veggies that you need to keep sneering.

I don't eat meat because I don't want to. I don't like the idea of eating meat and that would ruin any pleasure that I got from so doing. It doesn't mean that I don't like the taste of meat nor some of the convenience ideas that have developed around meat. 

It is very awkward to be invited to something like a barbeque & find that there is nothing that you can eat. Veggie burgers are a godsend. It is very awkward to have non veggie guests, or family, who expect meat. If there is a compromise like Quorn that we would both eat and which can be made into something that they would welcome then that is great. The other use of these products is to be able to use recipes that call for meat. A product that looks like meat & tastes like meat is very useful. It isn't that I really want to eat meat but rather that I really don't want to eat meat which can be very awkward & inconvenient.

Why you meaties feel so threatened by it I cannot imagine.

PS I don't understand why you meaties will eat things in pies, pasties, burgers, sausages etc that you would totally refuse to eat if presented with unprocessed .
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: GAZOU on December 08, 2014, 07:39:42 am
 ok2

A piece of plastic of the color of the meat with a chemical liquid which would have the smell of the burned meat would be the ideal

I joke ............
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: derekwarner on December 08, 2014, 07:49:42 am
Guys.....I think one of the important issues here is ...... >>:-( how do we feed the growing world population with protein?

I am not vegetarian but have eaten a vegetarian burger..........it tasted OK with lashings of BBQ sauce  O0

Our people [USSR & US] that ventured into .."outer space" or beyond the gravitational influence of any other planet could not light a BBQ as we from OZ would know

BTW...what was the name of that little USSR doggie in space?...his name was Laika  ............& when he returned...was Liaka treated to BBQ Russian meat products? .... Derek
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Bob K on December 08, 2014, 07:57:07 am
No guys you just don't get it.

I am vegetarian & just don't understand why you meaties are so threatened by veggies that you need to keep sneering.

I don't eat meat because I don't want to. I don't like the idea of eating meat and that would ruin any pleasure that I got from so doing. It doesn't mean that I don't like the taste of meat nor some of the convenience ideas that have developed around meat. 

It is very awkward to be invited to something like a barbeque & find that there is nothing that you can eat. Veggie burgers are a godsend. It is very awkward to have non veggie guests, or family, who expect meat. If there is a compromise like Quorn that we would both eat and which can be made into something that they would welcome then that is great. The other use of these products is to be able to use recipes that call for meat. A product that looks like meat & tastes like meat is very useful. It isn't that I really want to eat meat but rather that I really don't want to eat meat which can be very awkward & inconvenient.

Why you meaties feel so threatened by it I cannot imagine.

PS I don't understand why you meaties will eat things in pies, pasties, burgers, sausages etc that you would totally refuse to eat if presented with unprocessed .

Thank you for that explanation.  I was not poking fun, just asking the question.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: slug on December 08, 2014, 08:28:19 am
tug fanatic...you make it very clear...well done ..I now understand....regards tony
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Neil on December 08, 2014, 08:46:58 am
and I certainly wasn't sneering at veggies......each to their own.............I was sneering at the complete and utter rubbish printed on packaging.......MEAT FREE CHICKEN PIECES??????

As for your statement Can't eat meat......now that is misleading......unless you are allergic to meat................you can eat meat, just don't want to because of your beliefs!!

And one last point......don't see anything awkward about going to a veggie bbq..............would just ask If I could bring and cook my own piece of chicken or steak......and if refused, I just wouldn't go!......simples.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: dreadnought72 on December 08, 2014, 08:55:54 am
Fellow veggie here. I gave up meat 30 years ago after I graduated - as a student I'd lived on sausages and burgers without really thinking about all the crud that was in them. One Friday night, in 1985, while commuting back to Newcastle from my work, and changing trains at York railway station, I took a chomp on a burger that was, apparently, 100% gristle. It was like (probably WAS) eating an ear.  %%

These days? I sometimes eat Quorn. The 'mince' is handy in a chilli or spag bol., but I'd rather eat real food, made at home. No ready-meals (for half a person) in this house.

Andy
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: inertia on December 08, 2014, 08:57:49 am
ok2

Dave
To eat healthily you should not go to the hypermarkets of stores.
It is necessary to cultivate its garden, to make its products, to make its soup, to make its cooking , to buy at youngs producer
When I go in your country I do not know what to eat, everything is under plastic..................
You are responsible for it, and now he is too late for you. You are condemned to eat this kind of thing.
Jean-Pierre
1. I don't.
2. I do. There are over 100 recipes in my Favourites, including a dozen or so soups. I've used every one of them; many on a regular basis.
3. No it isn't. There is no need to buy anything wrapped in plastic on a plastic tray - you can get all of it loose by weight elsewhere, and usually cheaper.
4. No I'm not. I'm as free to choose what I eat as you are, and I too choose not to eat pre-packed processed crud or sugar-laden junk. Pizzas, chicken nuggets and burgers have no place in this house.
I do all the cooking here and I use only fresh meat, fish and veg. The reason I'm overweight is because I drink too much bl**dy French wine!
I do despair about the present generation who seem fixated on watching cookery shows on TV but who couldn't boil an egg.
But fois gras is natural?? Tell the geese that  :o
As for the vegetarian alternative, as Frankie Boyle so eloquently put it, you can £$%!! off!
Dave M
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: rpbidgood on December 08, 2014, 10:01:40 am
I hope this is meat free!
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 08, 2014, 10:14:08 am
I hope this is meat free!

You're safe its past its use by date   :o :o %) %)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 08, 2014, 10:14:18 am

 I once read that "Chocolate flavoured" products do not contain any real chocolate!
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: malcolmfrary on December 08, 2014, 10:23:48 am

I am not vegetarian but have eaten a vegetarian burger..........it tasted OK with lashings of BBQ sauce  O0

Our people [USSR & US] that ventured into .."outer space" or beyond the gravitational influence of any other planet could not light a BBQ as we from OZ would know

BTW...what was the name of that little USSR doggie in space?...his name was Laika  ............& when he returned...was Liaka treated to BBQ Russian meat products? .... Derek
The veggie burger, given enough BBQ sauce probably tasted of BBQ sauce.

Laika was on a one way trip, there was no provision for re-entry, so probably became part of a BBQ on the way down.  And he was a she.
Back then, the quality of processed ready food was questioned on TW3 - there was mention of the "gristle and bacteria pie".
As to additives, how do we know what has been involved in the production of vegetables?  One either side, I suspect that all of us just have to hope that we never get into the Soylent Green era.  Or one of Jack Vances imaginings, meals consisting of "gruff, deedle and wobbly".  Three courses.


Quote
I once read that "Chocolate flavoured" products do not contain any real chocolate!
Hence the use of the magic get-out word "flavoured".
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Klunk on December 08, 2014, 10:44:37 am
In what universe does quorn taste  like meat. It's texture is rubbery and to me it's like eating gristle. HavING been a veggie for 5 years when I was younger, I ate mainly fresh steamed or toasted veg. Made my own nut loaves and breads etc. I tried the veggie packet stuff and tofu and soya product's, but most  tasted of cardboard. During the summer months i lived on salads  and light soups and during the winter root veg soups and roast veg etc. I took a choice from the start to only use seasonal produce and locally sourced. 
I have since come back to the dark side, but still eat more veg, meat normally bring an accompanyment.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Brian60 on December 08, 2014, 11:00:41 am
I honestly think that trading standards should be involved, its obviously not chicken or beef for that matter, so why are they allowed to describe it as such?

The packaging should say Quorn in big letters with something like artificially flavoured with chemicals to taste like chicken underneath. :-))
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Calimero on December 08, 2014, 11:16:28 am
I am vegetarian & just don't understand why you meaties are so threatened by veggies that you need to keep sneering.


There's that kind of blowback because among vegetarians or vegans there's a fraction of insane people who want to evangelize "meat eater" (or even try and get bans).


While the vast majority of vegans/vegetarians keep their choice personal and don't make a crusade out of it, the minority of vocal crazies in the "movement" get poked fun at.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: GAZOU on December 08, 2014, 11:27:02 am
DAVE

I owe you excuses, when I said that you have to cook, soups it was generally, I did not think of you in particular.

The young people do not want to cook any more, how you say, not capable of cooking an egg, but girls do not know ............... that will eat my grandchildren?

The foie gras is a natural product, the animal is filled up in the maîs , We have never seen crazy duck {-)

Dave I have to change glasses, I had not seen whom you were in overweight in .......

PS the French wine does not make enlarge :P :P :P :-))
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: inertia on December 08, 2014, 11:46:04 am
Dave I have to change glasses, I had not seen whom you were in overweight in .......PS the French wine does not make enlarge :P :P :P :-))
Oooo, la la!  :embarrassed: You old Gallic charmer! :kiss:
DM
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: derekwarner on December 08, 2014, 12:09:55 pm
Goodness Malcolm...I got that one cocked up....but @ school in OZ [I was about 8YO]...we were taught that a doggie drove the Spunik rocket ...[sex in those days was not necessarily discussed]......>>:-( .... I just thought it was amazing for a doggie to drive a rocket........... O0 .....Derek
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


In 1957, Laika became the first animal launched into orbit, paving the way for human spaceflight. 

Other appellation(s) Kudryavka  Species Canis lupus familiaris Breed Mongrel, possibly part-husky (or part-Samoyed) and part-terrier

Sex Female

Born 1954
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: derekwarner on December 08, 2014, 12:25:19 pm
Well folks..... just reading........Inertia says ...... "I do all the cooking here" <*<.... so does that mean that Liz is down in the electrical workshop :P slaving away whilst the cook swigs the French wine? {-)

No wonder the quality control of the electronic bits is OK  :-)).......

Not sure how Liz puts up with the burnt or undercooked  morstials that DM offers up on the dinner plate  <*<

I also have it on good report that when the grandchildren stay overnight on the weekends...they prefer Weetabix than their grandpa's renditions of breakfast food  {-) %% .... Derek

 
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: grendel on December 08, 2014, 01:12:25 pm
as a family we have done vegetarian, and meat eating (currently in a meat eating phase) and I have had quorn as part of that - the quorn mince (or soya mince come to that) are good for bulking out real mince for a shepherds pie or bolognaise ( to keep the costs down in these expensive days) I do have an allotment for fresh veg, and we do soups, we get a lot of our veg at the farm shops (price differences are marginal over supermarkets).
Personally I think its all down to personal tastes and beliefs.
I respect a vegetarians decision not to eat meat, or a vegans decision not to eat meat or dairy.
I cant quite understand vegetarians that don't consider fish to be meat, but that's their choice (personally you could not ever get me to eat any fish or seafood as I am allergic to it).
as for labelling that's down to manufacturers trying too hard to sell their product to a meat eater as a 'healthier' version of the food they like, I have noticed how quorn is advertised not to the vegetarian, but as a low fat alternative to the meat version for the meat eater - its all about marketing.
Grendel
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: NFMike on December 08, 2014, 01:25:04 pm
Regarding the original post / picture I'd have to agree that is a bit daft, if not actually an unlawful description. 'Chicken substitute' would be more realistic.

As to Quorn, or tofu, I have no problem with them. Comparing them to meat is like comparing potato with chicken. They can all be used as 'bulk' in a sauce for example, where they basically end up tasting of the sauce. But they are, quite simply, different.
I actually quite like the texture of Quorn and tofu and the absence of gristle, fat or bits of bone that sometimes inhabit real meat is a bonus for me.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: inertia on December 08, 2014, 03:25:42 pm
Not sure how Liz puts up with the burnt or undercooked  morstials that DM offers up on the dinner plate  <*<
Is that the vegetarian morstials or the frozen morstials in packets of three-and-a-half? I think we need some clarification.  O0
As for Quorn, it's a pleasant little village on the A6 just to the south of Loughborough, with two decent pubs and a famous fox-hunting tradition - although the Quorn Hunt rides out from Barrow-on-Soar, which is the next village along.
DM
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Netleyned on December 08, 2014, 03:37:20 pm
Anyone got a model of HMS Quorn ??
WW2 Hunt class destroyer or Hunt Class Minehunter?

Ned
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Neil on December 08, 2014, 05:02:22 pm
Anyone got a model of HMS Quorn ??
WW2 Hunt class destroyer or Hunt Class Minehunter?

Ned
AN apt  name considering the world famous Quorn Hunt
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Neil on December 08, 2014, 05:07:58 pm
I am amazed by this thread............I only posted the pic as a bit of fun, and 50 up there hasn't been a nasty statement or an argument at all.......keep it up guys......who says we can't behave on mayhem.lol
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Jonty on December 08, 2014, 05:31:20 pm
  Bit late - been away for the weekend- but peanuts aren't nuts.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 08, 2014, 06:21:45 pm
Quote
Bit late - been away for the weekend- but peanuts aren't nuts.

No, unlike most of the posters on this topic.  :D
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 08, 2014, 07:48:29 pm
I am amazed by this thread............I only posted the pic as a bit of fun, and 50 up there hasn't been a nasty statement or an argument at all.......keep it up guys......who says we can't behave on mayhem.lol

C'mon Neil give us time we are only just winding up, we'll get there  :o :o :o %)%) %)
Its not the Quorns fault that they are being maligned all animal lovers should now come to the fore in Defence of the Quorns <*< <*< <:( <:( <:(
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: dpbarry on December 08, 2014, 08:03:16 pm
You're safe its past its use by date   :o :o %) %)


'Load of auld b*ll*cks' as me da and da-in-law say. ( da-in-law a chef). Since all this EU crud came in, we waste more food that is well useable but because it has a date on it, its deemed not fit for human consumption if it goes past it. If it smells okay, it usually is. If it doesn't, its not.


Declan  O0
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Neil on December 08, 2014, 10:35:37 pm
   but peanuts aren't nuts.

seriously.........but what are they if they are not nuts???? %% %% %%
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: dreadnought72 on December 08, 2014, 10:45:12 pm
If it smells okay, it usually is <ok>. If it doesn't, its not.

Totally agree. I think the safety factor is purely there to keep the lawyers at bay and to protect the stupid.

...mind you, the seven-years-past-its-sell-by-date Marmite that my Mum had was a bit stale.  :embarrassed:

Andy
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: tobyker on December 08, 2014, 11:06:50 pm
When we had a holiday in Brittany the local PrisUnic sold chicken from named farms within ten miles of the shop. They were a bit small and stringy by Tesco's standards but by gum they did taste of something.
Wasn't HMS Quorn (Destroyer) sunk in the channel shortly after D-day?  - nearly all the crew were lost. I think one of the people on our church memorial list was lost on her.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: derekwarner on December 09, 2014, 12:06:24 am
 {-) ...Andy...isn't Marmite made from fermented horses hooves?  <*<.........but Vegemite is a different storey O0 it is made from a left over yeast product from brewing hops........

We are happy little Vegemite's   :-)) in the land of OZ ...... :P :P ...Derek
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: NFMike on December 09, 2014, 12:26:26 am
seriously.........but what are they if they are not nuts???? %% %% %%
They are actually members of the legume or "bean" family. Other members include the pea, the sweet pea, and the laburnum.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 09, 2014, 02:05:25 am
Totally agree. I think the safety factor is purely there to keep the lawyers at bay and to protect the stupid.

...mind you, the seven-years-past-its-sell-by-date Marmite that my Mum had was a bit stale.  :embarrassed:

Andy

Stale, stale, I ask you, was it not actually matured like a vintage cheese :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 09, 2014, 02:07:21 am
{-) ...Andy...isn't Marmite made from fermented horses hooves?  <*<.........but Vegemite is a different storey O0 it is made from a left over yeast product from brewing hops........

We are happy little Vegemite's   :-)) in the land of OZ ...... :P :P ...Derek

Derek, Bravo sock it to  em  O0 O0 {-) {-)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: GAZOU on December 09, 2014, 06:19:25 am
 ok2

Hello TOBYKER

You were very lucky to find chickens like that in Brittany ................. It is a miracle!

It is not the ideal region to eat of the good chicken.

To find a good chicken it is necessary to buy him to a farmer to the market.
But Europe (Brussels) wants to remove these people there.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 09, 2014, 07:20:41 am
Derek, Bravo sock it to  em  O0 O0 {-) {-)
 


vegimite, just a cheap copy of Marmite
and something a group sung about a few years ago  :}
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: derekwarner on December 09, 2014, 07:54:06 am
 ok2 :P ......

'In 1919, following the disruption of British Marmite imports after World War I and prior to the introduction of Vegemite, Callister's employer, the Australian company Fred Walker & Co., gave him the task of developing a spread from the used yeast being dumped by breweries. Callister had been hired by the chairman Fred Walker. Vegemite was registered as a trademark in Australia that same year. Callister used autolysis to break down the yeast cells from waste obtained from the Carlton & United brewery. Concentrating the clear liquid extract and blending with salt and celery and onion extracts formed a sticky black paste.

Fred Walker's company first created and sold Vegemite in 1922.
Following a nationwide competition with a prize of £50 (2010:$3,527) to find a name for the new spread, the name "Vegemite" was selected out of a hat by Fred Walker's daughter, Sheilah. The winners, local sisters Hilda and Laurel Armstrong (aged 18 and 20 at the time) of Albert Park, Victoria, were known as "The Vegemite Girls" for the rest of their long lives. Vegemite first appeared on the market in 1923 with advertising emphasising the value of Vegemite to children's health but failed to sell very well.[8] Faced with growing competition from Marmite, from 1928 to 1935 the product was renamed as "Parwill" to make use of the advertising slogan "Marmite but Parwill", a convoluted pun on the new name and that of its competitor; "If Ma [mother] might... then Pa [father] will." This attempt to expand market share was unsuccessful and the name was changed back to Vegemite; but did not recover lost market share
In 1925, Walker had established the Kraft Walker Cheese Co. as a joint venture company with J.L. Kraft & Bros to market processed cheese and, following the failure of Parwill, in 1935 he used the success of Kraft Walker Cheese to promote Vegemite. In a two-year campaign to promote sales, Vegemite was given away free with Kraft Walker cheese products (with a coupon redemption) and this was followed by poetry competitions with imported American Pontiac cars being offered as prizes.[9] Sales responded and in 1939 Vegemite was officially endorsed by the British Medical Association as a rich source of B vitamins. Rationed in Australia during World War II, Vegemite was included in Australian Army rations and by the late 1940s was used in nine out of ten Australian homes. In April 1984, a 115 gram jar of vegemite became the first product in Australia to be electronically scanned at a checkout
Vegemite is produced in Australia at Mondelez's Port Melbourne manufacturing facility which produces more than 22 million jars per year. Virtually unchanged from Callister's original recipe, Vegemite now far outsells Marmite and other similar spreads in Australia. The billionth jar of Vegemite was produced in October 2008

We are happy little Vegemite's   :-)) in the land of OZ ...... :P  :kiss: ...Derek
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: slug on December 09, 2014, 08:04:22 am
marmite is 100% vegetarian ....Bovril is the one with meat extract..marmite uses yeast from English beers not lager as the yeast is not strong enough    regards tony
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: derekwarner on December 09, 2014, 11:25:22 am
1. Brovil..... that's what we used that in the Wood Work class in the glue pot   O0 ...reconstituted & fermented horses hooves  {-)
2. Marmite......the best residue with English beers is urination  {-)

Now speaking with class is Vegemite.......... Derek
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: GAZOU on December 09, 2014, 12:02:00 pm
 ok2

I ask myself the question:

How can eat again without vomiting {:-{
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: derekwarner on December 09, 2014, 12:15:39 pm
Easy....drink RED wine with it  {-) .... Derek
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: grendel on December 09, 2014, 01:06:14 pm
Totally agree. I think the safety factor is purely there to keep the lawyers at bay and to protect the stupid.

...mind you, the seven-years-past-its-sell-by-date Marmite that my Mum had was a bit stale.  :embarrassed:

Andy
more of a vegemaybe perhaps.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: dpbarry on December 09, 2014, 01:10:44 pm
Marmite..Vegemite... next you will be bestowing the virtues of Peanut butter.. Boke!!  <:(
Oxo cubes.. Now there is something to suck on.  {-)
 
Declan
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Post by: TheLongBuild on December 09, 2014, 01:22:17 pm
Marmite..Vegemite... next you will be bestowing the virtues of Peanut butter.. Boke!!  <:(
Oxo cubes.. Now there is something to suck on.  {-)
 
Declan

has to be Cruncy Peanut butter, not Smooth stuff..  Marmite Rules.. :-))
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Jonty on December 09, 2014, 02:11:45 pm
  As I recall it, and Edouard de Pomiane agrees, most ready-made stocks are made from hydrolised blood - and horrible.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: slug on December 09, 2014, 02:35:43 pm
vegemite must be a bad taste if you have to eat it with a glass of red wine and garlic....joking...jonty is veering towards a northern favourite....black pudding,with white fat in it...yum yum....regards tony
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Post by: Jonty on December 09, 2014, 02:40:32 pm
  And Gazou will be familiar with the equally good boudain noir. Though I draw the line at that Mayenne specialty andouillette.
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Post by: Netleyned on December 09, 2014, 03:12:57 pm
  And Gazou will be familiar with the equally good boudain noir. Though I draw the line at that Mayenne specialty andouillette.


Nowt wrong with a nice bumole sausage :-)) :-))

Ned
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: inertia on December 09, 2014, 03:30:29 pm
Marmite - proof that the adage "If it looks like it, and it smells like it, and it's brown and sticky then it's definitely s**t" isn't always right.
Personally I always hated the stuff - but only because my younger sister (whom I loathed) liked it. She has since moved on up the social ladder and presumably these days snacks on Beluga caviar along with her Veuve Clicquot. We haven't spoken for a very long time...................  Give me a big wedge of Blue Stilton and a pint of Theakstons any day.  O0
DM

I've just Googled Andouilette - yep, that looks disgusting; I wouldn't even eat it for a bet.
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Post by: Colin Bishop on December 09, 2014, 04:17:44 pm
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I've just Googled Andouilette - yep, that looks disgusting; I wouldn't even eat it for a bet.

The smell is reputedly even worse....

Colin
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: slug on December 09, 2014, 04:20:37 pm
lets add a bit of class...lea and perrins sauce...like marmite some like it others don't  tony
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Post by: tobyker on December 09, 2014, 04:46:40 pm
For a positively Lucullan feast - Vegemite AND peanut butter sandwiches. Even better than peanut butter and jam (or jelly), as the cousins say.
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Post by: david48 on December 09, 2014, 05:13:21 pm
Oxo cubes ,This will read bad to a lot of you . On a real cold wet windy day out of the East and every thing seems against you  . Try this toast rather  well done on a open fireside best ,a mug of oxo and put toast into mug Eat with spoon all very warming ,don't start about open fires and rain and all that this is done inside .Far better then H 57 Tom soup .
Or bullshot when out by the pond on a cold day , that's beef consommé ,tabascosauce to taste and vodka heated up and put into the thermos.
David
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Post by: Jonty on December 09, 2014, 05:27:13 pm
  Sounds good, but I'd sooner have beef dripping on my toast.

  Martin; I think we're close to having to merge this thread with the one on blood pressure!
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: GAZOU on December 09, 2014, 05:43:25 pm
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Jonty you know what is good!

Cut a French shallot in any small ends

In a frying pan put some butter

Make gild shallots and andouillette

Put a little dry white wine towards the end of the cooking in the frying pan

Put a spoon of crème fraiche in the frying pan

Move to warm the cream

Eat it and you will see there is nothing better to the world in .........

With French-style French fries

Drink the same wine

You can make a rôt of satisfaction     O0 O0 O0


I went recently in the Scotland motor home and to ORBAN a Scotsman with sunrise arms by seeing us and he shouted
AN-DOUILETTT-TTTEEEEE   {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: davidm1945 on December 09, 2014, 05:47:06 pm
Hate Marmite.

Love Bovril.

Used to love chewing Oxo cubes (gets a real sweat on on a cold day) but they changed the recipe and not so good now.

Dave.
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: inertia on December 09, 2014, 08:51:22 pm
I went recently in the Scotland motor home and to ORBAN a Scotsman with sunrise arms by seeing us and he shouted
AN-DOUILETTT-TTTEEEEE   {-) {-) {-)
O My Goodness we've got food-loonies on both sides of us! How about a new reality TV show - "I'm a vegetarian - Get me out of here!"? First off we'll put J-P's malodorous pig-parts bangers up against a freshly killed haggis. Then we can have a head-to-head between les escargot and a savaloy with curry sauce mix.
Truly vomitricious, my little ones!
And now a treat for Mr Warner:-
Saute a couple of finely chopped shallots in a little unsalted butter until golden; add a glass of (cheap) white wine and reduce by half. Add a squeeze of lemon juice if you like it, then season with Lo-Salt. In the meantime cook some tagliatelli until 'al dente' then allow to drain well. Stir a good glug of double cream into the sauce (or creme fraiche if that's your thing), allow to bubble and reduce a little then throw it over the pasta and stir well. Add about 200g chopped smoked salmon, more lemon juice, freshly-ground black pepper. Stir again and serve with a proper French baguette and a huge glass of chilled Sauvignon Blanc. Takes 15 mins from start to eating. Serves 2 normal people or one greedy b*gger.
N-Joy, dudes!
DM
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Post by: derekwarner on December 09, 2014, 09:20:08 pm
'Saute a couple of finely chopped shallots in a little unsalted butter until golden; add a glass of (cheap) white wine and reduce by half. Add a squeeze of lemon juice if you like it, then season with Lo-Salt. In the meantime cook some tagliatelli until 'al dente' then allow to drain well. Stir a good glug of double cream into the sauce (or creme fraiche if that's your thing), allow to bubble and reduce a little then throw it over the pasta and stir well. Add about 200g chopped smoked salmon, more lemon juice, freshly-ground black pepper. Stir again and serve with a proper French baguette and a huge glass of chilled Sauvignon Blanc'

Sounds a beautifully but simply delicately balanced seafood brunch DM  O0 .........does it have a name?..... & can you by it in cardboard box for the 60 second microwave ZAP?........ :D just kidding 

In OZ we used to have an imperial pint glass [for beer].......now I think the largest is a 375 ml glass [called a schooner size in NSW...which by co-incidence is a very nautical term & hence suitable for inclusion on MBM  {-)].....that would certainly be a convenient sized glass for the ice chilled Sav Blc ...probably down to approx. 6 degrees C :P ...and should it be consumed via a straw?.....would not want people to think we were being piggish with the Sav Blc  %)

So having said all of this do the members think that Inertia should create a new thread called "Creative Cooking Tips".......?..... Derek
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: GAZOU on December 09, 2014, 10:00:38 pm
 ok2

DAVE

Have you French origins? {-)
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 09, 2014, 10:12:57 pm
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Have you French origins?

Well, he is clearly a man of letters....
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Post by: Neil on December 09, 2014, 10:32:26 pm
Have you French origins? {-)

That's a new name for them..........Could it be a new chat up line down the local.........must try it {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Post by: Neil on December 09, 2014, 10:39:11 pm

vegimite, just a cheap copy of Marmite
and something a group sung about a few years ago  :}

nah, Larry....it's actually totally different...........and much smoother and nicer and less salty than marmite...........a much nicer concoction.......have it every morning on top of cheese on toast...............it's actually very good for sufferers of psoriasis. relieves the itching and also the inflammation too.
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Post by: Stavros on December 09, 2014, 10:43:06 pm
OH lord heavens above we got a Electrical wiz kid who THINKS he is a flipping Chef and now we got Neil who is advocating Vegimite for things down below where is this thread going to ....down the PAN me tinks  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
 
 
Dave
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Post by: dpbarry on December 09, 2014, 11:08:58 pm
lets add a bit of class...lea and perrins sauce...like marmite some like it others don't  tony


Hmm....  Yip.. Can hack lea & perrins..


1lb of mince, bistro gravy, mushrooms, onion(yuk..pureed), teaspoon of tomato puree & 4-5 splashes of lea & perrins. All nicely brought together and spooned out on a nice bed of spuds and a dollop of butter on top.


Ahhhhh! Loverly


Declan
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: dpbarry on December 09, 2014, 11:13:10 pm

Sounds a beautifully but simply delicately balanced seafood brunch DM  O0 .........does it have a name?..... & can you by it in cardboard box for the 60 second microwave ZAP?........ :D just kidding 

In OZ we used to have an imperial pint glass [for beer].......now I think the largest is a 375 ml glass [called a schooner size in NSW...which by co-incidence is a very nautical term & hence suitable for inclusion on MBM  {-) ].....that would certainly be a convenient sized glass for the ice chilled Sav Blc ...probably down to approx. 6 degrees C :P ...and should it be consumed via a straw?.....would not want people to think we were being piggish with the Sav Blc  %)

So having said all of this do the members think that Inertia should create a new thread called "Creative Cooking Tips".......?..... Derek


Don't get me started on ding..ding meals  <*< >>:-(
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: inertia on December 09, 2014, 11:32:14 pm
sounds a beautifully but simply delicately balanced seafood brunch DM  O0 .........does it have a name?
Yes - I call it Jim..................but it never answers.  <:(
J-P
Un peu.......
Colin
Only the French kind, and they were "Use before July 1983"
Stavros
No - it's the "electronics wiz-kid" that's the dubious bit.
Neil
Good luck with that, dude. You will need it.

DM
Title: Re: WHAT IS THE POINT!!!
Post by: davidm1945 on December 09, 2014, 11:36:11 pm
it's actually very good for sufferers of psoriasis. relieves the itching and also the inflammation too.


Rubbed in or applied as a poultice?

Title: Re: What is the point?!!! ( Meat styled vegetarian food )
Post by: derekwarner on December 10, 2014, 12:09:44 am
will this get to 100 & still not out?  :P ............ Derek
Title: Re: What is the point?!!! ( Meat styled vegetarian food )
Post by: cabman on December 10, 2014, 12:52:05 am
Speaking of burgers and hotdogs and going back a couple of pages on the thread, Laika, the Russian space dog was dead on her return to Earth. It was eventually reported to have been caused by overheating which I guess turned her into one. Didn't Charlton Heston star in a film about Quorn? It was called "Soylent Green" and was the answer to the world's food shortage problem. Still sounds a good idea to me!
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Post by: GAZOU on December 10, 2014, 07:13:24 am
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Rubbed in or applied as a poultice?
No not, it is much more effective in suppository
Title: Re: What is the point?!!! ( Meat styled vegetarian food )
Post by: slug on December 10, 2014, 08:11:39 am
eat what you like...just enjoy...everyone has different tastes and religions...no100 regards tony
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Post by: malcolmfrary on December 10, 2014, 10:52:33 am
nah, Larry....it's actually totally different...........and much smoother and nicer and less salty than marmite...........a much nicer concoction.......have it every morning on top of cheese on toast...............it's actually very good for sufferers of psoriasis. relieves the itching and also the inflammation too.
"I'd rather wear it than eat it" - Bullwinkle to Rocky on the subject of curds and whey, but it still applies to other things.


Probably best as a poultice.
Title: Re: What is the point?!!! ( Meat styled vegetarian food )
Post by: grendel on December 10, 2014, 12:53:22 pm
Actually if you have read the book, soylent green is not what you might imagine it to be (plankton based) as one line exclaims 'soylent green is people'
Hardly vegetarian atall.
Grendel
Title: Re: What is the point?!!! ( Meat styled vegetarian food )
Post by: cabman on December 10, 2014, 08:00:28 pm
I know Grendel. I was joking.
Title: Re: What is the point?!!! ( Meat styled vegetarian food )
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 11, 2014, 12:04:43 am
Some interesting Finnish food:-


Mammi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4mmi
Leipajuusto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leip%C3%A4juusto
Taste tested by Gordon Ramsay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S-8gF9GFJo


Finnish Black pudding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustamakkara