Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Mike0001 on December 08, 2014, 09:26:27 pm
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some of you may be aware be having some problems with my blood pressure and today wearing a 24 hour device
my last reading 176/118 sounds terrible but it tightened up so much round me thought it was going to squeeze my arm in half
any other sufferers here , getting a bit worried about this
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Mike....that is way too high.... so go to your Doctor >>:-(
About 3 years ago I found mine to be averaging 175/140/70...the Dr suggested I had very little time left on earth <*<
However with medication [plus red wine & garlic] I have never been better & monitor it for daily for two weeks every 3 months [with one of those $100 digital monitors]
I have an appointment with my Dr tomorrow morning & have prepared the following...[for some reason she continues to ask why I need to drink every day.......I simply respond that a man is not a came]..... {-) ... Derek
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hi
was in the hospital over night last night got out at 6.30 this morning...
Doctors today and presrribed blood pressure tablets , started taking tablets tonight so hopefully they will kick in soon, hopefully overnight.
aged 46 I did not see this coming, 9-10 weeks of constant ecgs and blood tests are taking its toll
hopefully though now I have started blood pressure tablets it will bring it down..... also go to go and get an angiogram done.. scary stuff
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hi
was in the hospital over night last night got out at 6.30 this morning...
Doctors today and presrribed blood pressure tablets , started taking tablets tonight so hopefully they will kick in soon, hopefully overnight.
aged 46 I did not see this coming, 9-10 weeks of constant ecgs and blood tests are taking its toll
hopefully though now I have started blood pressure tablets it will bring it down..... also go to go and get an angiogram done.. scary stuff
Hi Mike001..
First things first.. It will take a few days for the tablets to kick in but Don't blo*dy stress yerself out about it. It can be managed.
For years, (nearly 10) I suffered from headaches and put it down to the stress I was under in a particular occupation. I ended up leaving it. I then decided to go back to lifeboating, flew through the medical until the doc nearly forgot about the blood pressure. To cut a long story short i thought I had blown it as my BP was sky high. Not a problem. He put me on tablets, (had to alter them to get ones that suited me) got the BP sorted out and am now a full crew member at local lifeboat station training as a helm and ALB navigator.
Can count the number of headaches i've had on one hand the past 4 years... and I just turned 47.😀
Declan
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I have had a couple of angiograms. Nothing really to worry about, its best that they find any issues this way than the alternative!
Good luck
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Cut out salt as much as possible..... easy for me to say! <:(
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I was on Cyclosporine for a while and that cranked my bp to an average of 210/160. :o
Unfortunately, even though I'm not taking it any more, my bp still wants to be around 170/120 but I seem to have the worst side-effects from every bp pill they put me on. :((
Now on Bendroflumethiazide & Candesartan - bp sitting around 140/100 but often around 155/110 - not good. {:-{
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In June 2014 I went to my doctor for a routine check for diabetes
Said to him I didn't feel well
He checked my blood pressure and heart rate, sent me to the treatment room for an ECG.
He looked at the ECG and immediately started writing a letter to the nearest hospital 20 miles away
He asked if my wife could take if not he would call an ambulance
He said I had a racing and intermittent heart beat
Ended up in hospital for six days
In September 2014 I went for a cardioversion
This is where the shock the heart back into a good rhythm
Went back after six weeks for a checkup and was told my heart had reverted back to a bad rhythm
They said they would not try the procedure again and that I would just have to carry as i am until it catches up with me
I am noe 70 but you what life goes on
Fifie
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2006: Full time job + Trying to live through a major house renovation = Severe nosebleeds + 180/120 + Psoriasis
>Doc + Amlodipine + Simvastatin + Tell HMC&E to stuff their job = No nosebleeds + 120/75 + no psoriasis
No 'bad' cholesterol. It was probably stress.
I too use one of those squeezy monitors and have had no problems with it, although it does feel like it will crush your arm!
Good luck.
DM
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Hi Mike, just be glad you found out about it, it's not called the silent killer for nothing, I was diagnosed with it around 10 years ago, you will most likely have to try different tablets or combinations of them once your doctor finds the right combination you can live with it ok :-))
Joe
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:embarrassed: I have had had high blood pressure for over 30 years started when I was 29,started getting giddy spells and feeling faint went to doctors who said you have blood pressure of a man of 70 he put me on pills and have been on them ever since,some of them have have side effects which I could not take, now on Amlodipine which seems to agree with me,I don't put any salt on my food at all,we can live normal lives with this problem just take care of yourself,some people say it because you are over weight but I have never been over 10 stone must be my genes,Ray. :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
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hi all I have high blood pressure my tablets are amlodipine 10 mg I still go boating and shopping messing about in the garden if you worry it will get worse carry on as normal I do I was 84 on 5 dec tot of whisky at night no harm so my doctor says Gordon ps mind you at 42 I was running around the Brecon beacons jumping out off helicopters that's why im fit so my wife says :-)) :-)) :-))
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A few years ago mine was checked out after a flu jab and the medics homed in on me. I had noticed that the new trousers that I bought had been needing a steadily larger waist size as time went on. I had a bit of a lifestyle change. Not being the kind of person who can cold-bloodedly walk for exercise, I abandoned the weekly shop and started doing a daily shop to a range of shops about 3/4 mile away on foot. No use of a basket, when my arm was full, that was it for the day, plus I was walking home carrying it. That, and somebody told me that including beetroot in my diet would help. Also not adding salt helps. Since then, I have come down from a rather uncomfortable 16 and a bit stone to just under 13 and a half, getting around is easier and the blood pressure monitor has moved from normally orange to occasionally yellow and usually green. Just need to sort the cholesterol out now.
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Greetings, I had a massive heart attack when I was in my late forties, had 2 more since, both near fatal. I have had a quad by pass about 9 years ago and am now as fit as a flea ( a very sickly flea lol). people ignore blood pressure and it is so dangerous to do so, with the right meds its controlled, also you need to take things easier, no streesing about stuff you cant control, go with the flow, chill.
last year on holiday after standing for hours watching an air display I fainted, embarrassed or what. anyway paramedic said he thought I had a heart attack and wanted to take an ecg trace, so I warned him he would freak out if he did. he took it and FREAKED OUT....hospital on blues and twos...doctor repeated test, told him he would freak out, and he did. kept telling him I was fine and heart rhythm trace was normal for me, it always freaks med staff out lol. I now carry a letter from consultant heart surgeon plus typical(for me) ecg printout to stop them trying to issue a death certificate for me. btw my normal resting pulse is about 40bpm, one bang per lamppost as old bikers used to say.
do as your doctor says, and yes they do know whats best for you.
regards Jenga.....still ticking
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malcom blackpool thats where I fainted....re cholesterol, my surgeon wanted my nasty cholesterol below 4, I got it to 3.6 then got invited to the trial of a new drug and it is now an incredible 2.4, one of the lowest ever seen in our area, so when its released it will be a godsend for high cholesterol suffers.
heart conditions are NOT the end of your life, if you do as your told its the start of a different style of life. I had to retire at 48, lost a thriving business, but I have gained so, so much, been able to spend all the time I wanted with my wife and family and do everything I want to do. At the ripe old age of 68 Im going back on stage in a rock band, bring it on. Was a singer all through my teenage years in the 60,s touring with the top groups of the day so Im going back to the start so to speak. wish me luck
jenga
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wow that's some great reading /stories and perked me up
Been giving Amlodipine 10 mg, today my work saw me typing with one hand and holding my chest and dialled 999, panic I think set In but was taken yet again to hospital for blood test which again came back negative
so watching my blood pressure over next few days to see what effect it has, I have since first attack lost 18lbs in weight and changed my diet for the better
angiogram is next port of call possibly in 2 weeks....... trying to keep calm is hard but staying positive I say only way is up
:-))
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I had a similar problem (but opposite in a way) a few years back I got the pains the feverish feeling so off to the doctors, possible heart attack, so into hospital and on all the standard heart meds. after a week they had ruled out heart attack but couldn't be sure as I had had the raised levels of something or other that indicates the heart has been working too hard, as one of the things they put me on had been IV antibiotics, it transpired that this was what had stopped all the problems as I had had an infection - myocarditis - the muscle around the heart gets an infection and squeezes the heart (giving all the symptoms of a heart attack, and if untreated can be just as deadly) now they kept me on all the meds and would not let me home as I now had a different problem, a blood pressure of 80/50 - every time they took it the machine would have a spasm and start shrieking its alarm.
finally they sent me home. for a few days I could not bend over, or stand up from a chair without crashing straight over in a faint. so I voluntarily stopped taking the blood pressure pills, ah better - back to my normal low blood pressure.
a few weeks later they did an angiogram, just to be sure.
that was an experience, the camera up through the arteries from the groin, the nurse who tried to push her thumb through my leg for 10 minutes after I came out of the room to allow the arteries to clot and start knitting, plus sitting not moving for the next hour, after that the doctor came out, he had a beaming smile on his face when he got to me, it seems he almost never had good news for patients, but he let me know my arteries were in perfect condition (and by the way could he use the video he took to show his pupils what a clean healthy artery should look like as it is so rare to get a patient having an angiogram when nothing is wrong) he told me that if anyone said I was having a heart attack he would call them a liar.
This has not stopped other problems, apparently I have sluggish blood, its too thick, and through that I had some pains in the right shoulder (small blood clots on the lung) and am now on thinners (warfarin)- still the good bit was it helped seal up the hole from the angiogram quickly.
So the moral of the tale, don't ignore blood pressure (either way) don't ignore heart attack symptoms (of ones for blood clots) and see the doctor if you feel anything unusual is going on.
I am now 54, and since being made redundant a few years back have taken on a more lowly position and at work am taking it easy (well I say that, but I still do twice as much as others doing the same job) but I have no pressure from work.
Cholesterol - Somewhere under 2.4 last time I was tested, so even with low BP and low cholesterol you can still have problems, but caught early its all treatable.
Take care all
Grendel
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mike 18 lbs is awesome, keep it up. I know how you feel, every little niggle seems to make you think the worse, but your doing something about it. my advice to anyone is see a doctor soonest, far better than seeing a pathologist later lol. you'll be fine and dandy when they sort you out, may take a few attempts but you will get there. look at my story, I survived 3 MI heart attacks, I have 3 dead areas of heart muscle yet my old pump is going like a good un.....arrrrrgggggggggggggg sorry black humour. Dont count the days, make the days count, and tell those close to you you love them often. and get on with your life, its not a rehearsal, this is it, so enjoy.
jenga
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Like so many others on here I also have high BP. It has always been on the higher side but earlier this year I was offered a free NHS health check for the over 65s which indicated that it was over advisable limits. After a day on the portable squeezer I was booked in for an ECG. This took place the day before we were due to fly to Canada on holiday so I think that put the level up a bit more as I was terrified of being pronounced unfit to fly! Fortunately the Doctor didn't raise any objections.
I have been put on Ramipril capsules 2.5mg. This is apparently one of the default types of pill as it is cheap but it is also the one most likely to have side effects, in fact the list of possible side effects in the packet seems to include just about everything short of dropping down dead! However, I cannot definitely say that I have noticed any strong side effects myself so am carrying on with it for the moment. If you do then they switch you to other, more expensive, pills until they find one that you can tolerate.
I have been a bit remiss in monitoring my BP though and as a result of this topic have just ordered a BP monitor from Amazon at £19.99 which will avoid the need for frequent visits to the public machine in the local health centre.
Obviously keeping your BP down is a sensible thing but it still doesn't mean you won't expire from something else altogether! :o
Colin
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2006: Full time job + Trying to live through a major house renovation = Severe nosebleeds + 180/120 + Psoriasis
>Doc + Amlodipine + Simvastatin + Tell HMC&E to stuff their job = No nosebleeds + 120/75 + no psoriasis
No 'bad' cholesterol. It was probably stress.
I too use one of those squeezy monitors and have had no problems with it, although it does feel like it will crush your arm!
Good luck.
DM
so yours was stress ? doctors have said mine might be stress and been offered diazipan ? really don't fancy that
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mike...stress is very nasty, but you seem to be stressing your self worrying about your BP, very easy and understandable but.....you are being treated by competant people and you will be fine. You see how many responded to your post, you are not alone with this....feel sorry for the ones who have it and dont realise/dont do anything about it. worrying what might happen will not help you one bit, think to yourself it'll all be fixed soon. If you can lose 18lb you can beat this stood on you head,...... actually dont stand on your head its bad for BP. my brother in law has diabetis, his BP is 212/177 and his blood sugar is so high that when I entered it onto a web site, the response I got was "please enter a valid level", now he really needs to sort himself out but he wont.
your doing all you can...now RELAX!!!!!!!
jenga
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Crikey, is nobody well on Mayhem?, not me either, had Heart attack the day before 60th birthday and spent it in Hospital then taken from Ashford to St Thomas's in London to have Angioplasty and with pills I am doing ok.
Len.
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I take amlodipine for mine, its around 150/90 and the doc says its too high for a guy nudging 60 :D
So anyway get yourself into a branch of Boots and buy an Omron blood pressure monitor. Its just what they use in hospitals, wrap it around your arm, plug it into the gizmo and press the button. The machine does the rest for you and gives a digital reading-systolic/diastolic and pulse. For 20-25 pounds you can't go wrong, they even sell them on ebay for a couple of quid less.
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:-)) If you are taking medication remember to take same time everyday, if it is only one pill take it in the morning as that when B.P. is at its highest,that is also the best time to take your B.P. but be relaxed before you do(not after a 5 mile hike) so or your get a false reading,all this I have learnt after 30 years on pills,Ray. :-)) :-)) :-))
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I recently had the NHS health check ( I'm 70 in January ). Nurse told me my cholesterol level was low - she said " whose a clever boy then! " and that my blood pressure was very high. Now, my BP has always been on the low side so that came as a bit of a shock, but as I had been playing golf that morning she suggested I came back the next day for a recheck. So, I went back and she rechecked it (3 times - both arms) with the new super digital equipment and said it was still very high and said that I must see the doctor there and then. Waited about an hour and saw the doc. He checked BP on the old manual "pump up" equipment and said it was slightly higher than normal but nothing to worry about. He didn't actually say so but gave the impression that the newfangled equipment didn't always tell the truth!
Anyway, much relieved....
Dave.
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doctors also told me that, digital equipment is not as accurate as manual pump but its good guide.
Purchased a boots arm monitor and will be taking a record once a day at same time to show the doctor if noting else.
as for weight loss, well changes to my diet, porridge for breakfast, a small lunch and for dinner potatoes with veg, and rice and pasta
Basically cut out all the rubbish, was snacking a lot on crisps, sandwiches was also an issue looking back, now when I fancy a packet of crisps I grab an apple .
weight came off pretty easily, not a big guy weighed 11 and a half stone now ten stone 2, lost about 2-3 pound weekly.
nice to think I am not alone and it can be beaten :-))
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Like so many others on here I also have high BP. It has always been on the higher side but earlier this year .
I have been put on Ramipril capsules 2.5mg. This is apparently one of the default types of pill as it is cheap but it is also the one most likely to have side effects, in fact the list of possible side effects in the packet seems to include just about everything short of dropping down dead!
You sure. Was it not in the very small print at the bottom of page 2 😜😜😜😜
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You sure. Was it not in the very small print at the bottom of page 2 😜😜😜😜
So it is! It says to consult your GP immediately in the event of this. :-))
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taking tablets now blood pressure going down but still feel like I have pressure in my chest
seeing doctor who wants to book angiogram for possibly start of new year, stents I think he said have mentioned .
need to do some more research into them
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Stents are mesh tubes inserted into the arteries and expanded to enlarge them and thus reduce constrictions and hence reduce blood pressure.
Colin
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thanks colin
sounds a bit scary doing some research but sounds well worth it
he told me balloon goes in which expands artery and cylindrical tube then goes in which holds artery open ?
12 months of aspirin and blood thinners after as well
anyone been through it on here, it looks like that where I am headed but staying calm and positive
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Yes Mike , I had a stent fitted about 5 years ago. The procedure is simple and completely painless. Added bonus that I could see the whole thing as it happened on the monitor that the surgeon was using to insert the stent. The device is a little mesh tube that keeps the restriction open. Aspirin keeps the blood thin. Important to keep active, I`m hill walking and cycling to keep fit, age 78 years young.
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I am quite an active guy, did martial arts for years, regulary go swimming and cycling now and also changed my diet for the better
don't smoke or drink and still think so why me ? aged 46 ?
good to see your still active and its worked for you ... very well done.
hopefully I will not have to wait to long
when I handed in the blood pressure monitor the nurse downloaded the data and told me most of the readings were very high highest 190/130 lowest 145/100 so not great but blood pressure tablets have now took this down but still high
healthy future everyone :-))
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Mike, it is always a shock when you are confronted by something like this, particularly at a comparatively early age. However there are hundreds of thousands of people in exactly the same boat as you who are all being treated successfully so the odds are totally in your favour that you will be one of them. The important thing is to come to terms with the situation and understand exactly what it means and what are the implications for ongoing treatment and then you will be able to go on with living a normal life. OK, so you may have to take some pills but most of us have to do that!
Colin
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yes colin its all happened so quickly which has came as wake up call for me
hope I am not coming across as a moaner because that I am not.......
interesting topic though and a lot of response and unbelievable strong attitude to getting on with it has what I have noticed
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Mike,
No you are not coming across as a moaner, simply someone who needs to put your situation in perspective and where better than on Mayhem with it's huge contingent of fellow travellers!
Colin
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One point not mentioned here so far Mike is the term 'white coat syndrome' ....not joking...but scientifically proven that a persons BP may well exceed 15% of the norm when taken by medical staff.... be it a pretty young nurse %) or a grumpy old Doctor >>:-(
So whilst I have great respect for my GP........sometimes Doctors appear to not 'leave well enough alone'.... as my GP suggested instead of my [5mg Ramipril] each evening... I try [5 mg Ramipril + 5mg Felodipine] in the one modified release tablet each evening
Within 48 hours my ankle bones disappeared with swelling of my feet <*< .....I awoke with pins & needles in the finger tips of both hands <:( and a fuzzy tingling in my toes %)
Ain't GOOGLE great....looked up side effects of Felodipine....you guessed it...swelling of joints, pins & needles on extremities & a host of other issues
Its good that my GP is just a 3 minute walk from my residence..........I cannot describe the colour of her skin lest say it is the absence of light.......she was born in Nigeria....[surname is UCHENDU].. 6'6" tall & very very attractive :kiss: :kiss: ...but was thinking of a few [unmentionable] expletives as I walked to the Surgery rooms.....
Needless to say ..I am back on [5mg Ramipril] each evening...& yes my BP does seem a little higher than the norm when monitored by my GP.......Derek :D
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hi
yes I have heard of white coat syndrome..... bit like being quizzed by a superior and your heart rate goes up but I get what your saying ...... kind of go into a panic while they take your pressure
brain playing tricks on you really
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I agree with Derek, Im so laid back Im horizontal, my doctor is a great bloke and when I see hom Ifeel chilled and calm, BUT ...my blood pressure is higher than normal, so he chats to me for a while about fishing or such stuff and repeats test, and its normal again. Sometimes does 3 test, I guess thats how lie detectors work, you feel calm but inside you aint.
Mike, I had stents done mid 90's when it was a bit less easy, also my arteries were 85% blocked, and it was ok. When I was waiting for open heart surgery, I met a guy who had a heart bypass done 14 years before and he looked like someone had attacked his chest with a chain saw, and thats not me being funny, it was horrendous, and my initial reaction was oh my, well it was actually F*** that!! .Still I had 2 choices, have it done or die, so no contest really. But my operation left my chest with just a thin red scar line which has all but gone now. So techniques improve and results get better. Strange as it may seem, when Ive been in hospital, I look at the other "customers" in the ward and think Im lucky compared to them. Example: sat in ER with my thumb in a plastic bag wrapped in a bag of frozen peas, I was feeling very sorry for myself till they wheeled in a young guy with his arm in a bigger bag, lol. so remember theres always someone suffering more than you. You are really like an old prop shaft, the motor is working a bit harder to whizz you around, a bit of grease and you'll be spinning fine and dandy.
You realise that some researcher will read these posts and make the connection between stress, high BP and model boat building and the Gov will ban it like smoking.....regards Jenga
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Hi Mike,
Angiogram is where the insert a wire in your groin ( in my case ) and feed it up to your Heart, and if they find a narrow or blocked artery they will then insert a Stent, and this procedure is called an Angioplasty, this is what I had done 10years ago after my Heart Attack and I feel FINE!! O0 O0 O0.
Len.
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good to hear len
I have been referred last week to caridiac consultant, not sure when this will take place have another appointment 23rd of December with my doctor.
Also work for rs and have the option of going private with axa which I may take up if nhs has a long queue.
don't like the sound of going in through groin though I was hoping it would be my wrist
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There should not be a long wait, but, take the AxA option
It will be done straight away at your convenience and
follow up treatment will not mean waiting in outpatients
for long stretches.
Had a Aorta / Bi Femoral bybass 8 years ago and fine.
Good Luck.
Ned
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Just noticed this thread, :D
in 2008, my feet started to swell up, so I went to the A&E, two weeks later managed to escape and get home, my blood pressure reading made the male nurse in a&e disappear quite rapidly, he recorded 224/180 (it had been higher), now i feel like i rattle every morning and night, idipmide water tablets to counteract the metaformine, statines, doxisosin, and yes you guessed it Rampril, all at about the top dosage (10mgs), in all 9 tablets in all, 3 in the morning and 6 at night. deep joy.
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;D Many of the tablets taken for blood pressure can have some really bad side effects,you might have to change them quite a few times to get one that agrees with you,the worst one for me was beta blockers they made me so ill that I ended up in A&E one night,so if you feel unwell and think it might be the tablets go back to the doctor and change them you are going to be on them for the rest of your life so get the right ones, there are may different pill for B.P. so it is easy to change,Ray. O0 O0 O0
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46 ay Mike I beat that by 1 year 45 had my heart attack followed by stents being fitted what an experience that was no pain and as soon as it was done I fell 150% better high point was watching it all being done on the monitors worst part was when they squirt that horrible dye into your blood so they can see everything clearer make you all nice and warm in the groin area as if you have peed yourself luckily they warned me about that but was still uncomfortable metoprolol and asprin and a statin now for the rest of the forseable but hayho great to still be here loads of us out here all had the treatment never met anyone yet who has moaned about the procedure its quite good to talk to others about something that been done to you as well as me we can all relate too.dont want to go through it again though so a big change of life style less rubbish food and more healthy stuff tastes quite as good as the other stuff so not all bad lol
all the best if / when you get to have the procedure mate
Mark.
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I had four stents fitted after my second heart attack...best bit about the whole procedure was having a pretty young nurse standing by me and holding my hand whilst it was being done, describing what was going on. Wire up through the groin, completely painless, and to top it all the surgeon had Pink Floyd's "A momentary lapse of reason" playing on the stereo.
I watched it all happening on the big screen monitor, and even got a copy of it given to me when I went home.
I take seventeen tablets daily which control heart rate, blood thinners, blood pressure, pain killers and muscle relaxants for the RA, medication for the damage done to my digestive system years ago, plus three different types of inhaled medication for the COPD, and medication for Vitamin C deficiency because I can't get outdoors much.
I guess my diet leaves a lot to be desired, I don't like fruit much apart from the odd grape or two now and again, and because I live alone I tend to eat a lot of convenience foods.
Waking up in the mornings is a bonus for me...yes I still smoke, yes I still drink alcohol, but I'm still here.
Rich
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Oh, should have added that the pain killers for the RA can vary between eight and twelve a day, depends on how bad a day I'm having.
Rich
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Waking up in the mornings is a bonus for me...yes I still smoke, yes I still drink alcohol, but I'm still here.
Rich
We went on holiday to Whitby, recently, but had to curtail our normal 7 days away as we had already booked up for a concert at the Derngate complex in Northampton. It was one of the 70's evenings with quite a few famous names, We drove back the 200 miles home down a very wet M1, got our breath back and then went off to the theatre.
The concert started with the compere announcing that one star, Gerry Marsden, could not appear as he had developed double pneumonia while on a holiday in the sun to prepare for the show's tour. Also sadly announced that Brian Poole had been taken seriously ill while at the previous venue and again would be missing. The show proceeded with a bit of a mix and match of artistes ( P.J. Proby and the Pacemakers !!! etc) He sang 2 up tempo songs then could hardly speak until he could get his breath back
High spot of the evening was The Searchers, with two of the original cast and a couple of younger members. They played a couple of numbers straight off , then did a bit of chat which went a bit like " We would normally say that it is nice to be in Northampton, but with me at 70 and him (indicating the other original member) at 73, it's just great to be ANYWHERE"
Does make you think, doesn't it. I am 63, diabetic and on metformin and statins. Just had my annual MOT and awaiting the results, hopefully "see you again next year". Like most years , my blood pressure was up when first taken as I get a bit anxious as I know that they are going to take an armful of blood and despite 25 years in the NHS I still don't like needles!. Nurse sits and chats about this and that and then retakes it , by which time it has come down to a more sensible , if not ideal level.
One of the joys of being older is facing mortality and making the most of what you have for as long as you can !
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so he chats to me for a while about fishing or such stuff and repeats test, and its normal again.
Where the hell do you find a GP who has time to do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
Colin
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Where the hell do you find a GP who has time to do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
Colin
I do miss my old GP who used to do the same. When I used to get uncomfortable with how long I had been in with him, he used to say that as he was the Senior partner in the practice , the others had to live with it.
At the time, the part of the NHS I worked for had another local GP as its manager and he and my GP had basic disagreements how community services should be run. The discussions in the surgery got quite interesting sometimes!
It is only fair to say that nowadays , Gp's are under immense time pressures and personally, I think that it is a hard way to earn a crust.
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I once got winged at by one of the younger mid 20's rugby playing doctors at out local surgery thatmy blood pressure was better than his.
Grendel
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well I got my referral from my doctors to go private, have to ring axa ( my works medical care ) to get the ball rolling on monday.....
only other symptom I have is quite tender under the sternum (where your ribs meet ) and now mild pain in chest , tablets brought down my blood pressure but still don't feel right in myself, run 20 yards or even going up stairs out of breath
so hopefully consultation before Christmas and then the treatment, definitely angiogramn first
replies have been great and read in detail every one of them
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Our OZ Prime Minister recently tried to apply a $7.00 co-payment to see your GP....but the opposition & independents canned that in the Senate <*<
His next step is to reduce the Government payment to all GP's by the same $5.00 who use the bulk billing system [pensioners & health card holders excepted]
When I saw my very tall dark skinned GP this week....she spoke for 10 minutes on her views of our PM >>:-( ........ appears he makes her blood boil....... :D .... Derek
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;) my thoughts on the matter as below
"Please excuse me if I appear misguided…but my understanding is….
1. In 2014……the Abbot Government budget proposal for a GP consultation $7.00 co-payment was rejected by the Senate
2. Today the PM advises that proposal is scrapped but the following will apply
• A new Government reimbursement will apply to all GP’s under the Government Health regulations
• They will be paid $5.00 less for each standard consultation they provide to clients
• It the Doctor wishes to maintain be paid the standard Government rebate for each standard consultation…they must charge a $5.00 co-payment to the client [which is electronically remitted to the Government]
• Under 16’s, pensioners, & Health Card recipient’s will be exempt from the new co-payment system
• So my question is two fold
3. Is the Government simply shifting the unpleasantness of asking patients for $5.00 extra to see the Doctor onto the Doctors shoulders?
4. The PM today also remonstrated on Doctors charging the standard schedule fee but for consultations less than his standard 10 minutes
5. If a Doctor worked 8 hours per day = 480 minutes of chargeable time @ 10 minutes per patient there would be approx 48 patients per day
6. If the Doctor worked 48 weeks per year we have [48 patients per day x 5 days per week x 240 working days PA = 56,250 patients]
7. If the standard Government payment to a GP is $38.00 for a standard consultation…we see the GP being paid $2,137,500 PA
8. Will the NXT & the PUP & Lambie have the intestinal fortitude to speak up about this?
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5. If a Doctor worked 8 hours per day = 480 minutes of chargeable time @ 10 minutes per patient there would be approx 48 patients per day
6. If the Doctor worked 48 weeks per year we have 48 patients per day x 5 days per week x 240 working days PA = 56,250 patients]
7. If the standard Government payment to a GP is $38.00 for a standard consultation…we see the GP being paid $2,137,500 PA
8. Will the NXT & the PUP & Lambie have the intestinal fortitude to speak up about this?
48 patients @ $38 = $1824 per day
$1824 x 5 days per week = $9120 per week
$9120 x 48 weeks = $437,760 per year. Or am I missing something?
Dave
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Derek, you have used 240 days whereas this should have been 48 weeks.
Your already into weeks with the 5 days, so a factor of 5 out.
divide $2,137,500 by 5 and we have
$427,500.
The difference with davidm1945 is in your line 6. which should have been 57,600. You didn't use the approx 48 patients per day, but the actual number, didn't you.
so both then get the same answer.
Then you have to take out wages for staff and office rent/running costs to get down to anything like the doctors actual earnings.
To early, my plastic brain hurts
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:embarrassed:...opps........found out... >>:-(
it was just a RED herring to see if anyone was watching.......sorry guys.......or maybe too many glasses of RED ned? ......or enough to raise my blood pressure....... Derek
PS...it is reported that the image below is a true to life representation of me working in the garden.......very thirsty work this gardening stuff..... {-)
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opps, sorry Derek, but think I've eaten a few of your overseas cousins, in Vietnam.
Quite partial to soute'd 'frogs' legs, just like mini drum sticks. And go down well with a nice wine.
:D :embarrassed: %) ok2
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certainly not a drinker myself but keep hearing red wine is good for your blood pressure and your heart....... so why is that or pure myth ?
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certainly not a drinker myself but keep hearing red wine is good for your blood pressure and your heart....... so why is that or pure myth ?
Drink enough of it and I don't suppose you are bothered about either of them
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What I was told by my consultant heart surgeon on my first post op check up after bypass about BP, heart disease and smoking was this.
I will not ask you if you still smoke because I hate being lied to and I have seen your breathe analysis report, your oxygen levels are fine by the way.
Whatever you are doing, is not doing you any harm, as long as you keep to the same routine as you are now on, that is , if you did smoke and at present were smoking less than 10 cigarettes a day, the benefits to you with regard to stress relief is probably doing more good than harm. However, this is not an endorsement of smoking, and does not mean that you have carte blanche to have 11 a day. just go steady and you will suffer no problems, though less would be better, and none would be better still if you could find alternative stress relief, and alcohol doesnt come into the equation. Thats if you did smoke of course.
When I trimmed up my left hand with my new chopsaw, I was in theatre for over 9 hours while they stitched the bits back on, no Radiojoe you cant use epoxy, no one mentioned my heart condition, but all subsequent ops were done under a local ( not fun) because I had a heart condition and they felt it was too dangerous to put me under. I cant understand that one as most ops lasted 30 mins, and no one would ever explain it to me.
One thing that did fox me was the air ambulance response when paramedic asked for transport to hospital 30 miles fron scene . It was refused on the following grounds
1 I was a male over 60
2 it was not my dominent hand
3 male hands are not classified as "cosmetic"??? whilest female hands are
wanted to go in chopper, looking forward to it....still had an exciting ride in ambulane with police escort, felt like royaly.
Mike as I said before, this is not the end of your active life, its the start of a new lifestyle, best of wishes jenga
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Yes, I discovered it gets messy when you try to stop a hedge trimmer with your fingers!!
Dave
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strange thing was....no pain and no blood... for about 2 hours the all hell broke loose lol
Luckily the saw was brand new and razor sharp, irony is for the previous year or so had been using a saw with a blade guard that would stick at the worst moments, so I bought a new saw and the blade guard worked fine...lmao
I had leeches applied after op to keep blood flowing, when they had fed they would drop off and wander off around the ward...none of the nurses would pick them up, it was soooo funny. Surgeons dont like sewing fingers back on, blood vessels too small, prefer you cut the whole hand off, shall have to remember that.
jenga
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Drink enough of it and I don't suppose you are bothered about either of them
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strange thing was....no pain and no blood... for about 2 hours the all hell broke loose lol
Luckily the saw was brand new and razor sharp, irony is for the previous year or so had been using a saw with a blade guard that would stick at the worst moments, so I bought a new saw and the blade guard worked fine...lmao
I had leeches applied after op to keep blood flowing, when they had fed they would drop off and wander off around the ward...none of the nurses would pick them up, it was soooo funny. Surgeons dont like sewing fingers back on, blood vessels too small, prefer you cut the whole hand off, shall have to remember that.
jenga
when I was getting my new kitchen fitted 2 years ago , fella who done mine had no guard on his chopsaw, told him to get it sorted
reply was yes once I get the time, next day he came rushing in looking real pale with blood flowing from his forearm, he tripped and stumbled after he had cut a length...... he said no pain as well until we got into hospital and then it all kicked off while he was getting stitched up
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certainly not a drinker myself but keep hearing red wine is good for your blood pressure and your heart....... so why is that or pure myth ?
The magic chemical is 'resveratrol' (a derivative of resorcinol), and it works, but you'd die from alcohol poisoning long before you could get enough of the good stuff to benefit you. >:-o
Resorcinol is, traditionally, a waterproof glue for wood boatbuilding. Another derivative is 'hexylresorcinol', which was developed to replace carbolic acid, and is an active ingredient in Strepsils.
Tom
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So bmi manor hospital Monday for me, no idea where it is but I have sat nav
around 35 miles from home and seeing consultant first thing Monday to talk about last 4-5 months
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Mike...if you wont have a glass of RED ned. >>:-( each night........why not try a teaspoon of garlic each evening before you see the consultant QUACK?.............Derek O0
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i had an episode on saturday night that scared me, very fast breathing, sweating , difficultto breathe and pains in chest lasted for around 10 minutes, was with my kids and did not want to scare them so went upstairs.
cant help but think attack, this happened back in july as well , dont know what a heart attack feel like but weird sensation.... still got tingles in chest today
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Mike
Any doctor would tell you to call for an ambulance NOW. DO IT. You know the number.
Dave M
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Mike, can only speak for myself as everyone is different, but when I had heart attacks, I had severe chest pains, felt really sick, had pains down my arms and it felt like I had bent both my thumbs backwards (oh , those were the days when I had 2 thumbs lol). What you probably had was a panic attack, where you feel like crap and cant breathe, if it happens again, sit quietly and breathe in/out into a bag. rebreathing your own co2 will usually stop it quite quickly. Ask your doctor for a GTN spray, this opens all your blood vessels in case of heart probs, also makes you a bit wooly headed as it opens all your blood vessels, not just the ones to your heart. If you have restrictions this will help and you will feel better in no time, if it makes no difference its usually not your heart causing the trouble ( unless damage is severe, which I doubt is your case). My best advice is if in doubt call the ambulance, never wait, they dont mind if its a false alarm. I know its hard, but, stop worrying about it, even if you get the worst possible news, you can be put right. You may have to make changes, but believe me, you soon get used to it and life goes on. Proof : I'm 68 this week (you can all wish me happy birthday on the 19th), I'm feeling fine, I live my life to the full and am in rehearsals with a band to go back on stage. Remember I'm doing this after 3 massive heart attacks, quadrupple bypass surgery and trimming my hand up, so the future is bright...go for it. wishing you well.
sorry to preach, only trying to help you through this blip..if you need to talk , pm me for phone number.
Jenga
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Dave is correct...that's exactly how my first heart attack felt. It was only a minor one, thankfully...more of a precursor to what was coming along a couple of years later.
Again, as Dave says...call the number and get yourself checked out. Not later...not sometime...NOW.
Rich
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Call NHS 24 now /doc/ambulance your chances are running out your family would want you at home for Christmas by not calling the medical services you will be worrying them more. Please ring now .
I did when my wife had chest pains 18 months ago and she is writeing her Christmas Cards now ,Best phone call ever .
David
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Mike,
Don't waste time sharing your symptoms on here get yourself checked out immediately, it sound a lot more than a panic attack to me.
Too many people die because they think that if they wait a bit then it will all go away. Instead it's them that go away - for good!
I hope you are not reading this having taken Dave's advice.
Colin
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just back from hospital, I took advice and called 999
actually talked to cardio consultant in kettering who after doing triple test confirmed its not my heart, no damage done to heart..... but have to go back in 2 weeks for ct scan on arteries though
so think I need to settle down and take it easy........ thanks again for advice, I only read first one and was off
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And I bet they didn't suggest you were wasting their time!
Glad you are OK.
Colin
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hi
no they certainly did not, there was slight accident when catheter was ripped out of my arm by nurse buy accident which caused my blood pressure to drop a lot and they brought in cardiac team which was bit alarming.....
back on the 29th for either ct scan or angiogram......
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the good part about an angiogram is that if they find a restriction its fixed on the spot. had my own share of scares mostly false alarms apart from the myocarditis and the time I had shooting pains deep in the right shoulder and trouble breathing, when it was a few small blood clots in my lungs. dont ever wait, call the ambulance, even the nurses and doctors prefer it to be a false alarm.
Grendel
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angiogram done yesterday, at home now resting ... thanks for all the advice
have a good christmas
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don't forget to rest over the holiday, you have the best excuse in the world to sit back and do nothing so you don't strain the recovering wound, just let everyone else run around and get stuff for you..
Grendel
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:((
Regrettably!
You were not able to take advantage of the world day of December 21st %)
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thanks I got good news and bad news
good news arteries /heart fine
bad news found infection round chest area which endoscopy will hopefully sort in January
so not as bad as what I could have been
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That's good news and good news really Mike.
Arteries fine no surgery needed.
Chest infection can be cured without surgery.
A lot better outcome than expected.
Have a restful festive.
Ned
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thanks ned
being treated for Costochondritis, which is just inflammation round sternum and ribs, had this for 6 months and at least now I have something to work on
So all in all I have to greatfull could have been a lot worse
rest for me and big worry off my mind
Nurses and Doctors at Kettering General Cardiac unit are a1
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Just joined the club and collected my prescription for Ramipril today.
Good luck and Happy Christmas, everyone!
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amplodipine for me and its worked fine
Blood pressure is down to around 120/130 over 75 /80
compared to 180/120 , so feeling much better
best of luck mate, doctors and nurses of this country I have a real admiration for
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Reviving this thread because I believe I have run into serious trouble with Ramipril. Anyone taking this, or any of the many other ACE inhibitors should read this:
https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2010/04/26/when-will-doctors-pay-attention-to-an-ace-cough/
There is a lot more on the web on this subject.
I have had an awful cough for five weeks now (not the first time) and two different antibiotics have made no difference. I'm seeing the quack on Monday to ask for an alternative to Ramipril . I'll keep you posted.
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Reviving this thread because I believe I have run into serious trouble with Ramipril. Anyone taking this, or any of the many other ACE inhibitors should read this:
https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2010/04/26/when-will-doctors-pay-attention-to-an-ace-cough/ (https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2010/04/26/when-will-doctors-pay-attention-to-an-ace-cough/)
There is a lot more on the web on this subject.
I have had an awful cough for five weeks now (not the first time) and two different antibiotics have made no difference. I'm seeing the quack on Monday to ask for an alternative to Ramipril . I'll keep you posted.
I ended up with DVT and coughing up blood on this one.
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The cough is a relatively common side effect of Ramipril and some people can get it quite badly in which case alternative medication should be prescribed. I understand that Ramipiril is the first port of call as it is very cheap and most people can tolerate it. If it does cause problems then alternative, more expensive treatments can be tried.
Having said that, there are some nasty things about which can give you a long standing cough irrespective of whether you take Ramipiril. They don't appear to respond very well to antibiotics either.
Colin
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Ramipril gave me a persistent annoying cough. The Doctor replaced it with Losartan Potassium.
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Ramipril gave me a persistent annoying cough. The Doctor replaced it with Losartan Potassium.
I had the same prob with the cough ramipril then lossartan and it went after about 6/7 week Irony is though I never had any problems no high blood pressure and a cholesterol off 2.8 still had a heart attack.
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Ramipril gave me a persistent annoying cough. The Doctor replaced it with Losartan Potassium.
My doc put me on ramipril and within a few days got the tickly cough. Put up with it for another two weeks until i went back for a checkup. Blood pressure was getting better but the moment I mentioned the cough, he took me off them and put me on the Losartan Potassium.
Havent looked back since even with being on the crew. %% %%
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Hi, I was put on Ramipril about 10 years ago, I went back after 28 days (as you have to) and saw a doctor who I think should be surgically removed from medicine and me in particular.
He did a cursory check of my blood pressure and doubled the dosage.
After a couple of days I was like a zombi also I could feel my pulse all over my body. Weird! I went back to the Surgery, refused to see him, saw another and went onto a different pill and have since been fine.
We can now book an appointment on line although that is usually for some time ahead but he always has a vacancy! Wonder why?
My last experience with him was part of the "walk in take pot luck" mornings. He called my name I never heard him, I hear everyone else! He came out to find me and then told me off for being deaf! Only I had to strain to hear him mumbling it!
I think seeing someone like that just gives you high blood pressure.
If he had worked for me I would have found a way to "dispense with his services", a good prescription in his case.
However and fortunately I have found all the current female practitioners excellent, they tell it like it is and I am fitter now than ever.
regards Roy
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Further to my post of 7 October I stopped taking Ramipril and also the pee pill that was supposed to increase its effectiveness. Since then I have been checking my blood pressure daily, and it seems to have made no difference!
My cough has almost gone, though now I see that that can also be a side-effect of the Tamoxifen that I have to take for another couple of years. OBTAA.
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my doc put me on 10mg amlodipine at 86 next month doing fine fingers crossed, no after effects
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Hi all, I had a prostate problem, typical having to get up about 3 hours after going to bed to have a rather slow pee.
By chance I found that eating 3 pieces of crystaline ginger, which I love, each day alleviated the peeing need and I carried on like this for nearly a year. However there is always a side effect and the ginger stained my teeth a bit yellowy.
I had to have a crown fitted and my dentist said he could not match it for colour so I had a course of whitening using a clear bleach/jelly held in place by plastic moulded denture fittings.(£££'s)
It took a month to remove the stains and I do not eat much ginger now.
I let the NHS deal with the prostate (benign) problem, that was 9 years ago and I rarely get up in the night now.
regards Roy
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Whisky and Ginger - bypasses the teeth! Makes you feel good too.
Colin
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Well, when I worked out that ginger had medicinal properties as of course does whisky I tried ginger pills and Stones ginger wine again all in the persuit of science but only the crystaline form worked.
Reminds of a small club contingent designing a Stirling hot air engine that needed close fitting aluminium cylinders similar in size to lager containers and the many other alcoholic beverages available. The research took a long time before going into the design phase!
regards Roy
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Hopefully paralleling the current topic, I had for some time been suffering by severe cramps in the calves and feet at night. Someone advised me to drink Schewppes Indian Tonic Water, which has a small amount of Quinine in it. Quinine is often prescribed by Doctors for leg cramps, and although the amount of it in Tonic Water is small compared to prescribed doses it has really helped alleviate this annoying condition.
No, I don't add Gin - before some asks.
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be careful and mention it to your doctor, as leg cramps can be an early sign of blood clots, I ignored mine until the clots moved to the lungs (sharp pain deep in the right shoulder) and am now on warfarin.
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I had the same symptoms, also pain in calf muscles
when walking.
I ended up with an aorta to bi femoral bypass.
Ned
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Of course I saw my Doctor, and we must all be cautious of conditions esp when in our Seventies.
He confirmed that it was the Quinine that was helping. I now drink about 3 litres a week.
Of interest here re cramps:
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/legcrampsunknowncause/Pages/Introduction.aspx (http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/legcrampsunknowncause/Pages/Introduction.aspx)
One in three over 60's get leg cramps. No further medical action was needed in my case. If in doubt, see your G.P.