Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: kpnuts on December 29, 2014, 07:50:15 pm
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Hi all I've made a start.
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Hi all hull halves together
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as you can see will need a fair amount of sealant to waterproof it, even though I used a vise the gaps are still quite large. just waiting for the brass rod and tube for the prop shaft to come then I will seal it all.
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I used very thin plasticard cut to about 10mm wide as a bandage along the join to reinforce the joint and it will pull liquid poly glue in by capilliary action to make a perfectly waterproof seal for the full length of the hull.
The 'tube' glue dries with air bubbles and voids so it always leaks.
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I did the same with a plasticard 'bandage' and also ran a generous amount of epoxy on the inside of the bow seam. I have never regreted that when I hit the bank.
You might like to sand /trim the bow to a finer point, my moulding had a square section there.
Chas
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one of the best ways to fill the gap up is to decant some of your liquid cement into a small pot and put some slivers of plastic card into it and leave to dissolve.... overnight will do.......use this to seal the cracks up in the hull....then use some epoxy on top of it then seal up with some sealant
Dave
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Good work. This is the one I am building, although my kit is very old, it isn't the original Matchbox Bluebell and no fancy etched brass stuff.
My hull when assembled had a moderate twist about the fore and aft axis. Hope yours is ok.
Keep up the good work kp.
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Installed the prop shaft on the corvette
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I am very tempted to do a Flower class but must be disciplined and finish my first two projects!
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May I ask you what you have used to seal the hull halves
Dave
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Hi Dave its squadron white putty, I have just used it to fill the holes and stabilize the propshaft. I will seal it with bathroom sealant.
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best thing I find for sealing and strength is milliput green cheap and very effective ....bill....
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Hi all got the radio gear in the Corvette today.
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Hi all done a bit to the corvette. the strengthening tie bars are a joke they bend all over the place had to add some plasticard to them to stiffen them also number 9 rib is about 1.5 mill too long when in place and you add the top deck it creates a gap all down the side so had to had a bit off that, fits ok now.
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Looking good so far - is there any reason why you are using a mechanical speed controller? An electronic one with BEC will allow you to junk out the receiver batteries.
Also, a suggestion - I'd block up the anchor holes with some plasticard before the deck gets glued on to avoid a trip to the bottom of the lake! :}
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I've just always used the mechanical ones don't know anything about the other type. Thanks for the heads up about the anchor holes.
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Do you make the Bobs board yourself or buy them ready made?
Ironically they are probably more realistic for ships with telegraph systems with a lower number of 'speeds', but I don't know if they are economic on power useage? I think this would be a topic for the technical/electrical rooms.
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Bought them ready made.
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Hi ballastanksian.
thats not a "Bobs board" that looks a car type mechanical speed controller which tamiya, kyosho and MFA were the last I was aware of that still supplied them when the ESC came along. The "Bobs board" was an aluminium wafer variable speed wiperboard that you mounted on top of a servo. The copper strip wipers were screwed on to the servo arms (always an extremly fiddly SOB job ) then the fun part was being able to put the correct bend on the wiper arms so they just had the correct tension when they moved accross the surface of the board.
The boards were rated at 2,3,5,8 amp. and just like the ECS pick the wrong one and its fried.
Some radio maunfactures later changed the shape of the top of the servo so to be able to mount the board you haf to fit something underneath I used a piece of 1/16 ply then enlarged the hole pic no 3 then it all has to line up underneath.
when you look at what you had to work with B4 half of this lot do`nt know how easy its been made for them.. {-)
Frank
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Interesting. I wondered where the name came from. Thankyou for the tutorial frank.
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Interesting. I wondered where the name came from. Thankyou for the tutorial frank.
Just call me Dobby, as I live to serve the house of Mayhem.... {-)
frank
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Well I hope you dress better Frank!
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Some of my models still have Bobs Boards in them now. Compared to modern ESC's there are pretty awful but in their day they were the biz. Set up properly they run ok but I always had the feeling they were a heavy drain on the battery. I'll get arround to replacing them with Vipers when I retire!
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If you can afford it do it now. O0 O0 O0
You will find when you retire your dexterity, eyesight, stamina and a host of other things reduce your ability to do what was possible in your younger years. :(( :(( :((
Hence the saying don't put off what you can do today as tomorrow may never come
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Haha! Thanks Gunner. That's more jobs on my 'to do' list. :((
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Hi all I've had an idea to get this back on the bench, it's a bit out there but those who know me know I can be a bit weird. Anyway I was thinking of doing it as a 1960s bat boat, now first problem it's a 30 crew ship, I can reduce some of that since I have the Airfix jet engine, so I can do away with the crew for stoking the furnace, I figure that's probably 4 less laser cannon instead of the standard armament (I could add several and have them controlled by computor) so I figure 2 or 3 fewer crew there, still a long way from 2 crew or if I include the Butler 3, any suggestions how I can realistically reduce it down to 3, or excuses for why batman would risk his identity and have more crew.
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Go for it
Ned
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OK I'm doing it here is the jet engine, I'm ditching the rc, there will be a fair amount of hacking involved but this will look nothing like a flower class corvette when done, I envisage lots of bat wings and stuff.
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Hi all well here is a quick mockup of where this is going. The jet engine is very disappointing detail wise I will be adding lots more detail and since this will be sprayed gloss black I will be cutting inspection doors in the outer casing to show the detail I will be adding
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Is it April the 1 St.?
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Hi all here's the first bit of alterations, not April the 1st this will be based on the real prototype I saw in his batcave in 1960, of course I was only 3 so I may be miss remembering.
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At first I thought you might have done it in rust like a cartoon effect square panels riveted on etc or mad max alike. note to self catch up with the rest of the thread before commenting.
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Hi all done a bit more.
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As you can see there's no real detail to the jet engine, I know it's meant to be an educational toys to teach kids how a jet engine works and to be see through but I fail to see how this teaches anything, no injectors no pipe work for fuel just some blades which spin and some lights, I think Airfix missed a trick here. And for very little work on their part.
I know nothing about jet engines but I know they need injectors to get the fuel where needed and fuel obviously but here is no indication of either here.
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Just s bit of gas turbine theory for you
Fuel is injected in to the engine by items called atomisers and vapourisers, atomisers get the engine started then vapourisers keep it going. Gas turbine theory is more simple than piston engines: all you need to remember is suck, squeeze, bang, blow
And there is nothing rude intended by that last bit! {-)
Nice work so far :-))
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Talking about how jet engines work I saw this video a while back....
https://youtu.be/kz5kv0RfeUc (https://youtu.be/kz5kv0RfeUc)
It's quite funny and easily explained {-) {-) {-)
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Hi all some more progress on this.
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I've concocted a couple of laser cannons for it, I think they look quite convincing, what do you think.
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You might need some ballast in the nose else it might take off but if too much it might become a sub.
Interesting development.
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An interesting diversion from your historical projects Ken. Its great to shake off the need to be accurate and just have some fun.
I can't wait to see how you open up and detail the engine.
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Hi all here is tonight's bit, it is nice to just let the madness out.
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I must say I'm quite pleased with my lasers.
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It is very stealth in that black scheme!
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Hi all here is the next installment
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I must say I'm enjoying this very much, freedom from anyone saying "that's wrong" is so liberating and I'm loving the fact I can use my imagination to find stuff for making 60s style futuristic stuff ( I thought at the start of this build that the corvette lent itself to that era, modern stuff would be either squarer or more streamlined)
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Hi all, I've started detailing the jet engine.
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MMM, lots of pipes and gubbins! Excellent.
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Hi all, did some more detailing on the jet engine (yes I know all you jet engine enthusiasts out there it looks like no jet engine you ever saw) it's not real and doesn't exist in real life, I love this imaginary stuff, I can do anything.
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Hi all well I've finished detailing the jet engine, I was going to make an inspection panel in the casing so you could see the detailing but since it is curved in all directions I couldn't work out how to hinge it so you won't actually see any of it but, hey I know it's there.
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Hi all well thanks to a suggestion I'm going to do lift out panels instead of hinged so here's what I have so far.
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That is definitely from the Dark side O0 O0 :-)) :-))
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I was given a kit of HMS Snowberry Flower Class corvette but I think it is a bigger scale than !/72 I can't get out to my workshop at present to check. Does anyone know which makers it would be and is it likely to be a bigger scale. I have a feeling that the box is about 3 feet long. mind you my memory is not what what it was :embarrassed:
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Correction to last post .It is HMCS SNOWBERRY I think the scale could be 1/44 th :embarrassed: :-))
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Hi all here's another update on this beast.
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This box is about 3 ft long.
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I like that A pity that "JET" engine isn't an EDF It would be great to see that fan running to good effect. BTW I got someone to check on Mine IT IS 1/72 scale after all DOH! But I will build as is and put motors and R/C in her I would like to see action shots of yours on the hydrofoils
Anyway good luck John
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Hi all I've had a go at making batman and added a bit of colour to the ship.
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Hi all can anyone guess what this will be used for (think way out of the box)
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You have lost the plot !!!! lol
Bulbous bow !
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Something to do with gun bases. ok2
ken
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Hm. It is very round, so will it be a Radar dome?
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You're all not out of the box enough, think of batman flying.
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You are going to paint it black except for a bat shaped area which will show up on the ceiling when you illuminate it.
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Perhaps when you next see it you may have an idea.
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Hi all here is the next update.
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That is a good use for a light bulb. It saves a lot of shaping plastic.
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You could also say it is a bright idea %) %)
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I see the light. 8)
ken
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Hi all here's another update.
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I love the 'Bat chopper' very much!
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Definitely outside the box O0 O0 :-)) :-))
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Hi all another little update, I must say I'm excited to see where this goes, I have so many ideas rolling round in my head.
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Hi all I just feel like I should apologise to all the people following my other ship builds, I've not forgotten them, I'm just having so much fun with this I can't concentrate on them, is that selfish? Sorry, I will get back to them again, and to those who don't like what I'm doing to this, I blow raspberrys at you.
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Hi all another update, won't be many more as on hols on Friday.
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This is your hobby Ken. We all need diversions on occasion to refresh our enthusiasms and remind us that a hobby is meant to be fun and not a chore.
That you have several projects on the go is all the more reason to ocasionally put them aside and have some unadulterated pure fun for fun's sake.
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Hi all doing some research (I've no idea of the size of these and can't seem to find overall dimensions) I thought these would help in stabilisation either side, would you all agree, 1/72 seahund type xxv11b, I wouldn't be modeling them as submarines more outriggers with maybe some cannons or lasers attached.
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Why not? It would be a bit like that modern stealth ship the US navy built some time back but less anglier.
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Hi all well I'm back on this (I know, you're all shaking your heads and mumbling "here goes that nutter again") hey I'm just living upto my name.
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Enjoy yourself and don't worry about us! I like the Bat stabilisers!
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Hi all here is the next update.
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Hi all the next update
Here is the standard weapon and the bat boat laser to replace it
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Added some of the PE ( not sure whether to leave it as stainless or paint it red, just to add some interest instead of all black)
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And more of the hated PE
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Don't forget the Bat searchlight Ken:O)
I love the idea of the 'Bat Laser', very proper.
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Hi all here's the next instalment
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Just been looking through this topic, interesting to see something so different from the original kit, built on imagination instead of following the same old.
One thing, did you change out that speed controller yet? A esc will remove so much resistance from the circuit and also save you tonnes of power, if you buy from China and can wait for up to 3 weeks you can get them for peanuts, I never buy anything in the UK anymore, things are so much more expensive when bought from UK sellers!
You can get a decent electronic speed controller for less than a tenner ( depending on your amperage requirements) and free postage you can get a flysky fs-i6 6ch 2.4ghz transmitter that can easily have it's software upgraded to 10 ch and it even comes supplied with a 6 ch receiver for £35! With 6 or even 10 channels to play with you could control all manner of bat gadgets on the boat!
The place to get all your rc electrics and just about any other gadget is a site called banggood.com yes, I know, it sounds like a adult site but it's an alladins cave of things for sale and they are trustworthy and reliable, in 170 orders from them so far, I've not had a single item fail to arrive and if sonething is wrong with an item there customer service is good.
Some things are so cheap I don't know how they manage to make a profit, for example, I can buy a main gear for my rc helicopter for just 80p and it's delivered from China for free, I bought 10 smd led's the other day from them for 75p and free postage!
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Apart from the benefits of large scale production I think it's pretty obvious how they keep prices low.
You probably wouldn't like to work there.
Colin
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Just been looking through this topic, interesting to see something so different from the original kit, built on imagination instead of following the same old.
One thing, did you change out that speed controller yet? A esc will remove so much resistance from the circuit and also save you tonnes of power, if you buy from China and can wait for up to 3 weeks you can get them for peanuts, I never buy anything in the UK anymore, things are so much more expensive when bought from UK sellers!
You can get a decent electronic speed controller for less than a tenner ( depending on your amperage requirements) and free postage you can get a flysky fs-i6 6ch 2.4ghz transmitter that can easily have it's software upgraded to 10 ch and it even comes supplied with a 6 ch receiver for £35! With 6 or even 10 channels to play with you could control all manner of bat gadgets on the boat!
The place to get all your rc electrics and just about any other gadget is a site called banggood.com yes, I know, it sounds like a adult site but it's an alladins cave of things for sale and they are trustworthy and reliable, in 170 orders from them so far, I've not had a single item fail to arrive and if sonething is wrong with an item there customer service is good.
Some things are so cheap I don't know how they manage to make a profit, for example, I can buy a main gear for my rc helicopter for just 80p and it's delivered from China for free, I bought 10 smd led's the other day from them for 75p and free postage!
Yes, the customer service is excellent and if the item is not up to expectations it is replaced or refunded no haggles.
With regards to it being a bad place look at you local manufacturers who have set up shop in China, as they have done so from Australia.
Have a look at AliExpress, much bigger range and pricing, it is set up something like ebay with lots of suppliers to choose from O0 O0
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Hi all nearing completion, here is the next update.
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Hi all here is the next update, almost done now I thought I would put the bat tank with it just to make it less boring.
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They are lovely Ken! The Helo made from a Light bulb to make the round canopy is inspired.
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Hi all as I said before attempting to get some models finished so I can devote all my attention to the ducati. This is nearly finished now (just the rigging to go) I've decided not to put the other lifeboats on (may even remove the ones on there and add something else) I've also decided not to paint the railings to add a bit more interest, if I change my mind they will be red, anyway here are pics of where I am now.
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My next one to finish will be the Thermopylae.
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Hi all well it's finally done being completely honest I think it's ended up looking very boring, I think I should have picked a different super hero, like the incredibles or maybe the fantastic 4 I would have weathered it with differing shades of black for the different panels as someone did suggest but I don't think I've ever seen a bat vehicle that wasn't perfectly matt black or perfectly gloss black. Anyway here it is, at sometime in the future maybe I will revamp in another colour scheme.
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If Batman was not anchored to the forties then I would say that the hull shape was not as exciting as the subject. But it uses period super weapons, it has the power plant of the era namely a huge turbojet, and uses a hull that is very period, (It even has a Whirlybird Helicopter! So while not as super dooper as the things modern Batman uses, it oozes the styles and aspirations of Batman's true era.
You gat a big :-)) from me Ken. Keep on being interesting.