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Mess Deck: General Section => Tugs and Towing => Topic started by: andywright on March 17, 2015, 08:50:54 pm

Title: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on March 17, 2015, 08:50:54 pm
Few pictures of the start of my Svitzer M Class, no name yet.  I believe this hull was moulded by Tyne Models.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: adamD98 on March 17, 2015, 10:08:46 pm
 :-)) nice one Andy! Looks great so far.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: tugnut on March 18, 2015, 07:30:58 pm
That's a great looking hull,Keep pictures coming Andy.
Did chipchase Brian have one.


regards John B
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on March 18, 2015, 10:21:11 pm
Chip chase made the original mould, don't know if he built his on the original plug or a grip hull, very very nice model his is, I dont think mine will be to that standard, the winches are a problem for me, his were superb. I have almost finished the deck house, only the roof to add now, but am away from home for three weeks so at a stand still. I have looked at harbour models winch, they do a working one and a non working which looks the same without the motor, but they are not really like the originals. I have had a look at MMM ones and trying to adapt two to make a winch but I don't think they are suitable, though worth importing I guess.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: tugnut on March 19, 2015, 07:12:37 pm
That,s what i did got the Portgarth winch and Modified it :-))
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mrturbo553 on March 19, 2015, 08:43:55 pm
If you can scratch build something, then have a look on the site below


http://www.nswinches.co.uk/products/marine


Cheers Aid
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: ministeve on March 19, 2015, 09:08:44 pm
scratch it as a dummy then fit a modified electric screwdriver under the deck to tow from
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on March 19, 2015, 09:13:14 pm
That,s what i did got the Portgarth winch and Modified it :-))
Any chance of a photo?
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on March 19, 2015, 09:14:35 pm
scratch it as a dummy then fit a modified electric screwdriver under the deck to tow from


I'll have a look at that. Don't have a lathe so it would have to be made from easily sourced stuff.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on March 19, 2015, 09:16:35 pm
scratch it as a dummy then fit a modified electric screwdriver under the deck to tow from


I've heard of that before.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: adamD98 on March 20, 2015, 12:45:45 am
Andy, it's actually easier than you think (I'm a complete plank when it comes to these things by the way) ... I'm sure someone will post a pic soon for you but all you need is either the electric screw driver modification, or make up a 30rpm (for example) winch below the deck, feed your rope up through a brass tube and over the top of the winch on deck, and hey presto you have a realistic (ish) winch.


 Hope this helps mate
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: tugnut on March 20, 2015, 06:47:46 am
This is my one part MMM part bits and pieces, the drill is mounted under the deck.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on March 20, 2015, 10:43:46 am
That's impressive, nicely done, will get on to Brian and order one of those, what did you use on the aft deck?
Nicely built model, great detail on the bulwark frames. Did you fabricate the anchor chain stoppers or buy ready made?
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: tugnut on March 20, 2015, 06:43:38 pm
I made them .do you mean the colour or the material on the deck.
The colour is Halfords red oxide with satin lacquer. the decks are all fiberglass.


John B
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on March 20, 2015, 08:29:02 pm
I made them .do you mean the colour or the material on the deck.
The colour is Halfords red oxide with satin lacquer. the decks are all fiberglass.


John B
Sorry John, I meant what winch did you use
Andy
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: tugnut on March 21, 2015, 07:16:22 am
Hi Andy thanks for your comments,   it was the bow winch for the Portgarth,


John B
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on March 22, 2015, 05:25:59 pm
Update photos.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: adamD98 on March 22, 2015, 05:59:02 pm
Looks great Andy, coming along now!
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: tugnut on March 22, 2015, 06:41:26 pm
Looking good Andy.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on April 19, 2015, 07:36:17 pm
Little update, not got on very well, been away at sea too much, only getting the odd evening home. Have tried a different way of building on this one, sprayed hull before fitting bulwark frames, so I get a neater edge between the deck and bulwarks. Going to try making the frames and painting and fitting after. Sounds hard but maybe it will work out ok.

Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: adamD98 on April 22, 2015, 01:09:03 am
Looking good mate  :-)) 
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on April 27, 2015, 08:02:36 pm
I shall be watching this build as I am building the Svitzer Marken. :-)) :-)) Looking good mate.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on April 27, 2015, 09:57:14 pm
Progress is a  bit slow at the moment, can't get time home wioth work. Vesselin Dry dock now for three weeks, so all at a stand still. Will keep posting as progress is made. I now have the winch parts from Mobile Marine models, winches won't be exact to scale, but hopefully will look the part.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on April 27, 2015, 10:03:06 pm
Hi mate, are you building from plans, if so is there any chance you could scan the mast and send it to me.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on April 27, 2015, 10:06:55 pm
Hi Dave,
Will be home at the weekend, will try to remember, you can email me  as a reminder. The Svitzer Maltby is at Pembroke dock near to where we are on the slip. Havent had a chance to chat my way on board yet, will try before we leave Pembroke.


Regards Andy
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on April 27, 2015, 10:08:59 pm
Hi Dave,
Will be home at the weekend, will try to remember, you can email me  as a reminder. The Svitzer Maltby is at Pembroke dock near to where we are on the slip. Havent had a chance to chat my way on board yet, will try before we leave Pembroke.


Regards Andy

Thanks mate.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on May 04, 2015, 08:27:46 pm
Dave,
Here are scans of the mast, if it doesnt work send me a pm with your email and I will email them to you. Sorry they are not more clear, but the plan I have must be a copy of a copy of a copy etc.
Andy


Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on May 10, 2015, 06:34:26 pm
Hi Andy, thanks mate have you done anymore on your build. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on May 10, 2015, 09:37:42 pm
No, not been home again, the wheelhouse is done upto top of main windows, will have to spray it next and fit windows and interior.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: The Old Gals on May 12, 2015, 11:12:52 am
Looks like good work to me.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on May 17, 2015, 07:44:46 pm
Photo update, one funnel, having a break from awkward wheelhouse windows.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: tugnut on May 17, 2015, 08:51:44 pm
Looking good Andy  :-))  keep pictures coming  O0 .

Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on May 17, 2015, 09:39:38 pm
Looking great Andy. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on May 20, 2015, 05:51:08 pm
Hi Andy, how thick is the styrene you are building the wheelhouse from.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on May 20, 2015, 08:59:21 pm
Hi Dave,
The lower wheelhouse or accommodation block is 2.1mm, and the wheelhouse itself is 1.8mm. I think this will give quite a scal appearance to the depth of the window frames.
I got the styrene from a local company who make industrial tanks from styrene, I'm not worried about weight with this model, after fitting the motors, the hull requires about 11kg of ballast to get her down to her marks. Because the hull is so deep, stability is not a problem, so long as the batteries and ballast are fitted low down.
I have now built second funnel.

Regards Andy
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on May 20, 2015, 09:43:40 pm
Hi Andy, I was thinking of 2mm for the wheelhouse but was a bit unsure if it would be stiff enough to hold its shape. But having looked at your photos of the wheelhouse built from 1.8mm and yours looks fine so I should be ok with what I have, keep up the good work as your build looks great.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on May 21, 2015, 08:32:16 am
Hi Dave, yes I found the 2 mm a bit too bulky and difficult to work with for the wheelhouse itself, funnily enough I was looking at the real boat in Milford and thinking about the mast, after all it is only supported by the thin side frames of the windows.
 I haven't started the top windows yet, (been putting them off because of the fiddly aspect), but I will probably put two cross struts in of 2mm just under the mast going side to side just for extra support, nobody will see them unless they get on hands and knees. They will be as deep as the slope on the top reverse windows. This will also help the wheelhouse keep its shape.
I have been using the plumbers solvent, the type they use for cementing plastic waste pipes together, i find it easier to use and stronger than the watery stuff which evaporates in 2 seconds, and a lot cheaper.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: DMS Sparrow on May 21, 2015, 09:23:11 am
Good morning Andy
I have just bought a hull for a svitzer m class tug
Do you  have any close up photos of them
Your model looks great
Martin
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on May 21, 2015, 03:41:23 pm
Hi Dave, yes I found the 2 mm a bit too bulky and difficult to work with for the wheelhouse itself, funnily enough I was looking at the real boat in Milford and thinking about the mast, after all it is only supported by the thin side frames of the windows.
 I haven't started the top windows yet, (been putting them off because of the fiddly aspect), but I will probably put two cross struts in of 2mm just under the mast going side to side just for extra support, nobody will see them unless they get on hands and knees. They will be as deep as the slope on the top reverse windows. This will also help the wheelhouse keep its shape.
I have been using the plumbers solvent, the type they use for cementing plastic waste pipes together, i find it easier to use and stronger than the watery stuff which evaporates in 2 seconds, and a lot cheaper.

Hi Andy, I don't think there will be a problem with supporting the mast once the windows are fixed in place the wheelhouse should be quite strong. As for the plumbers solvent I had not thought to use it......but will now...as for the top windows have a go at making them out of card first that's what I do, Keep up the good work mate.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on May 22, 2015, 10:22:09 pm
Yes, I make cardboard patterns first. My deck house is strong enough for me to stand on and I am tall and 17 stone.
I have stuck plans together using my plan as template, some have a very narrow bit of detail missing between sheets, but nothing important is missing. Will post tomorrow.
Regards Andy
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on May 22, 2015, 10:31:23 pm
Good morning Andy
I have just bought a hull for a svitzer m class tug
Do you  have any close up photos of them
Your model looks great
Martin
Hi Martin,
Unfortunately I never got to arrange to get on board Maltby when I was on the slip at Pembroke Dock three weeks ago, no time!!!. There are some nice photos on chipchase thread here.


http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36015.0.html (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36015.0.html)


Regards Andy
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on May 27, 2015, 08:46:19 am
Hi Andy, have you managed to get any more done on your build. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on May 27, 2015, 05:10:26 pm
No, been away at sea again, really slowing down now.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on July 12, 2015, 08:42:43 pm
A bit more progress today, been away on holiday for two weeks, back to sea tomorrow so had a go at spraying wheelhouse and building winch. The winch is a modified MMM winch.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: tugnut on July 13, 2015, 07:07:30 am
Nice one Andy :-))
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on July 15, 2015, 12:05:13 pm
looking good Andy, keep up the good work. :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: Blaven03 on July 16, 2015, 10:03:39 am
Hello,


Fantastic job your doing, what scale is she.


Cheers
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on July 17, 2015, 11:56:08 am
She is 1/32 scale, a nice handy size. Fits in the back of my car great.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on December 08, 2015, 08:25:44 am
For the third time!!, don't think this site likes Apple Macs, trying to post updates unsuccessfully.
Anyway been doing a bit more lately, wheelhouse ready for internal fit out, winches coming along and thinking of funnel vents. If photos don't post this time will try later on a PC.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on December 08, 2015, 08:26:46 am
Photo
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on December 08, 2015, 08:27:18 am
Photo
Will try later sorry
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: chipchase on December 08, 2015, 01:31:46 pm
couple of photos of wheelhouse, not the easiest of builds
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on December 08, 2015, 04:58:50 pm
Trying again,
Updated photos.
And yes Brian the wheelhouse does take some doing, I stuck to my original idea and it worked. I havent fitted the roof yet, i am going to build the inside first, then fit the roof. Yours looks very good.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: Netleyned on December 08, 2015, 05:02:18 pm
Photos have worked Andy
Looking very tidy.

Ned
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on December 08, 2015, 05:27:11 pm
Looking very good Andy, keep the photo's coming mate. And Brian yours is very good, just hope mine will be close to the standard you two have set. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on December 08, 2015, 05:32:06 pm
Thanks for comments. The wheelhouse isn't fitted yet, just resting on top for photo and have to fit horizontal bars.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on January 31, 2016, 09:53:40 pm
Bit more work today, finished large windows glazing, started cutting frames for bulwarks, not looking forward to that job, but once a template was made got on quite well.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on February 05, 2016, 10:21:13 pm
Getting on well, just about finished all bulwark frames. Last batch sprayed ready to fit. and fairleads all fitted.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: mersey dave on February 06, 2016, 10:24:24 am
Coming on great Andy, looks great keep it going mate. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Svitzer M Class
Post by: andywright on March 25, 2017, 07:12:34 pm
Have been moving on this again, wheelhouse nearly finished, towing posts and one wink fitted, accommodation block sprayed, wheelhouse fitted so it can't slide off! :-)) . Will post pics in next few days.