Model Boat Mayhem
Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => The "Black Arts!" ( Electrics & Electronics ) => Topic started by: merseyferry on May 18, 2015, 07:27:39 am
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hello all does anyone know of another liquid to put inside a 6v graupner smokeunit that makes smoke ,some1 said baby oil but that did not work well..the price for a 10ml of the real stuff is a bit steep 9quid steep lol
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This any use:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fogjuice-for-smoke-machines-/111668924882?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19fffc91d2
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-Your-Own-Fog-Juice/
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-your-own-smoke-fluid/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuHkhIns1kA
http://www.bigclive.com/smoke.htm
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This is the same stuff; it's just in the manufacturer's bottle instead. Still not cheap, but not nearly a pound per millilitre. http://www.modelmasters.co.uk/acatalog/SEU105.html (http://www.modelmasters.co.uk/acatalog/SEU105.html)
You can also get it in 250ml and even 1L sizes on E-Bay - mainly from German suppliers. Just search on "Seuthe"
DM
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thank you gents ill give the fogjuice ago :-))
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I'd be careful! Reading the label this stuff is intended for water-based fog machines. These use a nebuliser to create a mist while the Graupner/Seuthe units use a heated element to vapourise an oil-based distillate.
DM
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Most of the fog machines use glycol which will not work in the oil type smoke generaters, plus can trigger asthma attacks. Use baby oil and Varsol 50/50%. It works baby oil is to thick by itself.
Regards,
Gerald.
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Varsol - is that we call Turps / white spirits? ( States call it rubbing alcohol I think?!)
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Glycol is used in "water-cooled" internal combustion engines to prevent freezing. I don't think it is used for medicinal purposes, I could be wrong. Sounds like a glycerine and alcohol mix ? Best smoke is pyrotechnics if the model is suitable, a LOT of heat ! Expensive too.
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Ah! Now I know this one! "Glycol" is ethylene glycol (anti-freeze, and sweetener in dodgy under-the-counter wine) and rubbing alcohol is pure ethanol. I wouldn't drink either of them........................ :o
DM (Chemistry GCE A Level - Grade E - 1970)
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As ever, Wiki has information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit Varsol is, indeed, white spirit.
Rubbing alcohol - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubbing_alcohol
Martin, be careful which you use for what.
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Hmm...sounds like something to be tested on the workbench, not in the boat. Best to have an appropriate fire extinguisher nearby, just in case!
Tom
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i been playing with smoke for a while ..... im a pyrotechnician .. ... watch my video i made ... but please turn the sound down . unless you dont mind a bit of swearing !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzUzxXFqUF0