Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Yachts and Sail => Topic started by: Martin (Admin) on July 06, 2015, 01:21:39 am
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Anyone ran a Land Yacht before?!?
Nope, nor me but I now have a HobbyKing BAT1 for review!
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__76855__HobbyKing_8482_Bat_1_RC_Land_Yacht_ARR_AR_Warehouse_.html
NB. I also met Stuart Warne, who does lots of HobbyKing YouTube video. It was a bit weird as I heard him talking to someone behind me,
recognized his voice, turned around and was sort-of surprised not top see a Youtube window around him!!!
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Ordered one a few days ago - should arrive very soon (I hope!). What are your initial impressions? Any problems? (And it looks like you stayed up really late putting it together.) If it's as quick as it looks the main problem is going to be finding a space big enough :}
Greg
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Hi Guys
Would think that the beach would be a good place, unless you have a disused runway, those things can go like hell in the right conditions
Mark
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https://www.facebook.com/Jerseymodelboatclub
These guys had a plan on their Web Site a while back for one made out of Plumbing Pipes and fittings, called a Polypipe Land Yacht, try Googling it.
Len.
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Ordered one a few days ago - should arrive very soon (I hope!). What are your initial impressions? Any problems? (And it looks like you stayed up really late putting it together.) If it's as quick as it looks the main problem is going to be finding a space big enough :}
Greg
Crickey Greg has the weed in our lake got that bad, %% %% %)
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Crickey Greg has the weed in our lake got that bad, %% %% %)
Well, it's good to be prepared for any eventuality! :-))
The Bat arrived today. Looks a nice piece of kit, carbon mast and boom and main axle, nice bearings for the wheels. But a few questions for anyone who has one or knows about it -
1. How is the boom attached to the mast?
2. What is that short piece of tube taped under the hatch for?
3. And what is the cocktail stick for? (Yes, really!)
As you might have gathered, the instructions leave a little to be desired - or maybe I am just being thick %% Still, I should be able to get it running soon, and will report on performance.
(How's yours coming along Martin?)
Greg
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Greg in Ans to your question No 1 it looks like it is held on by a plastic bracket.....just been looking at the pics Martin put up
Question 3.....ANS it is to do with the attatchment of the boom to mast....have a look at the picks on the Hobbykong site and all will be revealed
Dave
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Greg, the boom/mast joint seems to be a couple of pieces polythene a stud and a small bit of dowel, which to me doesn't seem to match the engineering of the rest of the craft, I bet you come up with something better, :-))
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Thanks for the picture interpretation guys - yes, I think Joe is right - there is no actual connection between boom and mast, just some soft tabs that encircle mast and boom - and I guess that cocktail stick is to hold the tab in place on the boom. And yes, I'll probably come up with something a little more secure! :-))
Greg
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I thought I would give the Bat a go straight from the box, so put it together with the stuff Hobby King provides. The boom was held to the tack of the sail with the cocktail stick and the small rubber band supplied held the clew of the sail to the end of the boom, hooked around the small screw that HK supply in place. Nothing putting any tension on the sail luff, no connection between boom and mast, no boom vang..... %%
It was pretty breezy here today, a bit too much if truth be told, but off I went. The Bat certainly takes off in the puffs and goes a lot quicker than I can run! :embarrassed: It also stops unless the surface is flat and hard. Even a thin layer of soft sand over the roadway stopped it. But the rig was a big disappointment. Even sheeted in hard the sail never set properly and as soon as the sheet was eased the boom rose and the top half of the sail flapped. >:-o
So - lots of potential but some work needed on the rig, which I have started. And yes, it did flip over several times in the gusts, and you need pretty swift reactions to keep the wheels on the ground. A more efficient rig might improve this as it should be possible to feather it more easily. Time will tell!
Greg
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This youtube post/review/build should help you out. after seeing the vid i ordered one should be here Thursday %%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbHtiC2Xung (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbHtiC2Xung)
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Thanks TT. That shows pretty much how I put it together, and some of the other videos on that page are worth a look too.
I got the kit version rather than the plug and sail, so fitted my own servos which was pretty straightforward. (You do need to supply one extra small screw to fit the sail arm to the servo arm.) One hint I offer for anyone assembling a Bat - the instructions say place the receiver to starboard and the batteries to port in the space behind the servos. If you do that the batteries will foul the on-off switch. Put the batteries to starboard and all is fine.
Greg
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Hello,
When my Sons where in their teens I made them a Land Yacht.
Set up correctly they really do go very fast !.
A Member said 'unless you have a disused runway' - - well at the time, we DID !!!.
The runway now lies under the M62 Motorway.
We waited until there was a correct wind, and set the Yacht up on the runway, in front of the car -- and let it go !!.
Gave it some distance in front of us, and belted after it.
Just under 35 mph !!!!!!, no effort, more wind, I am sure it would have gone a lot faster.
My Sons were screaming with delight - - and me !!.
John. :-)) :-)) :-))
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I brought the PNP version as i got it at almost the same price as the kit when they offered me a discounted rate, it also works out a little cheaper to get that version when you add the price of 2 reasonably decent futaba servos to the 'kit', not sure on the quality of them but for the price you can't really knock it.
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Not sure if anyone is interested but just in case...
Here's what I did to the rig to try and improve things a bit. There was no room for a conventional boom vang to keep the boom level, so I went for a windsurfer-style wishbone arrangement. All bashed together out of whatever I had to hand, so it's a bit rough and ready, but if it works OK I can tart it up a bit later.
Here's a general view of the result -
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The piece that slides on the mast and the piece at the end of the boom are small lumps of oak, and the 1/8" dowels are, I think, walnut from heaven knows where. Thin carbon rod would be more in keeping!
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I held the tack of the sail down with the supplied rubber band and a small screw in the back of the mast.
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(The messy glue around the mast is from an earlier attempt to fix the boom to the mast.)
The whole rig looks and feels much more like it should (or at least how I think it should) but I haven't actually tried it yet. I'll let you know how it performs when I have had a test run.
(Come on Martin, where's yours??)
Greg
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Hi Greg, that should do the trick, that's what they call lateral thinking, I think %% %%
See you next Thursday if you are going, I'll bring my Victoria just hope there's enough water for her. :-))
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OK, all my 'ducks-in-a-row', lets build this thing!
What is the box.
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First impressions;
well packaged,
half decent manual, ( won't need that! )
hull good quality,
nice ball-raced wheels!
servos included and fitted,
sale arm pre-fitted,
steering rod pre-fitted.
magnetic hatch,
brass inserts on hull screws,
carbon fiber mast, boom and rear axle,
reinforced front wheel assembly,
free useless screwdriver & toothpick!
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It's about this stage I get why it's call BAT 1 !!!
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The Hatch is held down by a magnet, which isn't glued in place, well the top half isn't?!?!
Dab of Hot Glue, job done.
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So far so good, where am I going to put the radio?
I decide to be a smart ar5e clever and Velcro the Receiver (Rx) to the hatch & run the aerials inside the hull top!
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I then notice the steering snake / outer / rod was loose, so more Hot Glue.
I also Hot Glued the snake down the hull to the front as it was only bonded at the servo end.
The steering got quite stiff after that so a few drops of Teflon oil soon loosed it up nicely.
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The front wheel, steering arm and mount is quite substantial... but I hot glued that in too anyway!
The steering clevis was none to clever, that will need keeping an eye on...
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Stepping back a bit, I would be using the Turnigy TGY-i6, 'all signing, all dancing' 2.4GHz (Gig) radio.
http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__62710__Turnigy_TGY_i6_AFHDS_Transmitter_and_6CH_Receiver_Mode_2_.html
(anther computer radio to learn.... )
It has a good "feel" to it and runs on 4 AA batteries.
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Nice safety feature!
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The kit is supplied with one of those spring type battery holders which takes 4 AA batteries.
At this stage I will state my personal preference for a 'flat pack', pre-welded battery pack.
( I've had several failures of spring-type battery holders in the past, splitting, corrosion, bad joints, percussive failures, etc, etc. )
.... just don't like them at ALL!
But as it came in the kit I've use it anyway.
You Velcro it down wherever you want it.
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I have a friend who has this machine, him are very happy, it works well.
I wish to buy the same.
I would want to have a beer with coach I do not like the Coke, it is possible?
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I have a friend who has this machine, him are very happy, it works well.
I wish to buy the same.
I would want to have a beer with coach I do not like the Coke, it is possible?
No problem, beer with the next build!.... What beer do you like Gazou?
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It's only after I've fitted the battery holder and the Rx, that I then test fit the upper deck.
... It doesn't fit, there isn't enough room above the batteries for the Rx or servo plugs.
Another shuffle around but now the servo leads aren't long enough.
The battery holder ends up against the sail servo which should stop the batteries flying out in case of an emergency stop (crash!)
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The Bat 1 comes with battery holder & Hull mounted switch (with leads).
Time to set up and test the radio.
Read the instructions:
1. Plug 'Bind plug' into [B/VCC] (channel 7)
2. plug batteries into any other channel
3. Power up the RX - Fast flashing LED.
4. Power up Tx whilst holding Tx's 'Bind' button.
5. Confirmation chirp from Tx.
6. Rx flashes slowly.
........ however, spot my deliberate mistake! >>:-(
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Switch on the TX
Bind plug in wrong socket
Ned
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The clevis on the steering needs a length of silicone fuel tubing fitted over it to keep it closed. If you dont have any then you can use heat shrink tubing.
Jim
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Nope! Look again....
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Oh come on boys you are deliberately missing the fact that he's tried to bind with the radio switched off {-)
U2
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I got it I got it......... The switch on the BAT1 definitely says 'OFF' :-))
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Hey just imagine if the radio was on and the bat was on then you may have had another problem with the wires the wrong way round :} ............ Think I'd better go he's an administrator.........U2
Seriously though, I might attempt one of those myself one day as I only live 900 metres from the beach.... Could be fun.... I look forward to seeing it in action......... U2
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The battery box lead is unkeyed two pin plug, the power switch is standard 3 pin (servo) socket.....
Red to black & black to red = release of the Gennie / Magic smoke / Give up the Ghost in the Machine.
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Red to black and black to red
Makum smoke
Receiver dead :embarrassed: ;D :embarrassed:
Ned
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That battery box is dead now, it can't hurt me any more.... <:(
Order a new Rx and back to plan A, with a proper battery pack!
A dab of Hot Glue to keep the servo leads out of the way.
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Even the best make a small mistake now and then Martin! But I reckon you just had it in for that poor little battery pack {:-{
I had to enlarge the hole in the hull at the front where the steering rod emerges. I filed it wider in both directions to save the rod having to bend too much on max lock. I also fitted my servos and found you had to do the fixing screws pretty tight to stop the servos moving - might be worth checking yours to make sure they aren't going to shift.
Nice thorough review - looking forward to the rest.
Greg
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I also fitted my servos and found you had to do the fixing screws pretty tight to stop the servos moving - might be worth checking yours to make sure they aren't going to shift.
Greg
He will just hot glue them in place. :-))
Jim
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Thought for the day:
When Hot Glue sticks to fingers, it's painful at first then nothing afterwards...... Superglue is the other way round!
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OK new Rx? - Check!
Battery pack? - Check!
Radio instruction booklet? - Check!
Tx & batteries? - Check!
Bind plug? - Check!
Everything connected up CORRECTLY? - Check!
Before I set about binding the new Rx, I thought I have a play with the Transmitter (Tx).
I has loads of aero type features most of which i'll never need but a few will come in use on later projects, eg. V tail mix, servo limit & extend, etc, etc.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uploads/1022671243X1465900X53.pdf
I thought I'd set up the model name first... Easy!
2 hours later I'm left scratching my head and getting splinters for my efforts!
See if you can make heads nor tails from this?!?!
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Hey, that's one really busy CANCEL key!
Could it be a matter of 'Press the CANCEL key once to' do one action and 'Press the CANCEL key twice to' do the other action?
n.b. this FREE advice is worth just what you paid for it. ;) - Tom
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Close Tom!
Eventually, I figured it out, 3. should read;
3. A LONG Press on the "Cancel" key will exit and save the new parameters.
YouTube: https://youtu.be/I373L5TlGK8 (https://youtu.be/I373L5TlGK8)
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Binding was a breeze... maybe I was being Extra Careful this time!!
Fast flashing LED then Slow once Bound / Binded (?!?)
( I've eased the 'case' back a bit here for clarity. )
Utube: https://youtu.be/QPpCupwl4H8 (https://youtu.be/QPpCupwl4H8)
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I've read that some people have adjusted keratin aspect of the mechanic setup of the servos, winch arm, steering rod, clevis, etc. etc.
..... I'll do all that after the first run! Just make sure that everything it tightened down and secure before rejoining the hull halves.
I had also hot glued the sail mast .... base? .....seat? .... mast step? ...tabernacle? - as this is a high stress point.
I got something wrong as the two halves wouldn't join again properly for love nor money!
I went round to PD's and eventually we figured out that the Hot Glue had started to cool before I got the Mast Base properly in place.
..... cut it all off again and Hot glue a 2nd time with a bit more speed rather than haste!
( NB: Careful of orientation, although it can only be fitted one way round. )
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I don't think anyone has ever said, "That's neat Hot Gluing job!"
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Everything in place tested and working, time to screw the two hull halves back together, 5 screws
My usual practice with machine thread screws is to borrow some of SWMBO or daughters nail varnish to use as a thread lock.
( It holds quite tightly but then 'snaps' clean if needs be. )
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Rear axle next, easy!
small hole marks axle centre point.
Dab of Hot Glue under the axle and nail varnish thread lock.
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Nail on a couple of wheels...
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Next the mast.
I used nail varnish again... just in case!
I used the longer section as the lower end where the higher stress is.
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OK so I know nothing about yachts, mast, booms, etc....
I know that but just to emphasize that, there's nothing in the manual about fitting the boom! {:-{
Lets see if I can figure this out...
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Nope! Shouldn't the boom be connected to the mast somehow?!?!?
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Nope! Shouldn't the boom be connected to the mast somehow?!?!?
Martin, the tack of the sail (the bottom front corner) has two tabs. You have them both round the mast, one should go round the boom. The end of the boom with the screw is the outboard end. The end close to the mast has a hole for the cocktail stick which goes through the hole in the tab. The small rubber band holds the sail to the outboard end of the boom.
Well, that is how Hobbyking "designed" it as far as I can figure. But it's rubbish. The sail will never set properly without tension kept on the foot and luff and something to stop the boom flying up in the air. My solution is earlier in this thread but there are certainly others. By all means try the rig as designed - it works after a fashion - but it'll need some work if you want it to give continued satisfaction!
Good luck!
Greg
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Cracking close ups Martin, the writers of the build manual could learn a lot from this -
my philosophy 1 photo is better than a hundred words !
the model should go really well, minimum component parts hence lightweight = speed,
looking forward to the movie !
On a recent Scrapheap Challenge they built land yachts and quoted
in a 20mph wind a dinghy would travel at 12mph and a land yacht 30+mph.
Need a big empty space to test it, the acceleration is unbelievable 0 to flat out in an instant !
regards Paul
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Ah! Cheers Greg! :-))
I've also found these photos:
So THAT's what the toothpick and rubber band are for!!!
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Right, good! Just make these modifications and were good to go!
..... Do we think these tires will provide enough flotation? Or will I have to wait until winter and the water freezes over?!
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..... Do we think these tires will provide enough flotation?
Go on Martin, give it a go. Good long run up and.... %%
Just make sure the video's running!
(There's a very good piece on waterproofing electronics here (https://youtu.be/s4z8QMgTEA4) - just in case %) )
Greg
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OK, boom fixings corrected.
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... just need to fit this now and we off to the races!
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In case anyone has never snipped off the long end of a zip tie, the cut end is hard as hell and twice as sharp. Been there, done that.
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I have a plaster on my right middle finger
at this time to bear witness to this fact.
<:(
Ned
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No one?
I will be fitting this....but what for?
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Martin
You are going to give the Yacht a Battering ???
John.
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A sliceof the action?
Ned
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You're not serious are you?
Ok if I must...... Er a brake that fits underneath and scrapes against the sand...... :embarrassed: U er 3
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are we going to find out what its for
part of bbq set while your on beach using the land yacht
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Rain stop play....
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oh excuses excuses where is your spirit of adventure not got a brolly ha ha
Dave
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He's not really going to fit it he just wants us to come up with crazy suggestions for his own entertainment O0 ...... Ha ha. U2
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It's to create some wind.
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Actually fixed the boom up last week and then had to wait for the right weather! Had it's first run last night in Tesco car park, great fun! ..... there seems to be a lot of walking involved with a Land Yachts!!!!
Full report once I've edited the videos.
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Hey Greg!
I know very little about yachty things, could you elaborate on:
1. "to try and improve things a bit"
2. "boom vang to keep the boom level"
Ta! :-)
Martin
Not sure if anyone is interested but just in case...
Here's what I did to the rig to try and improve things a bit. There was no room for a conventional boom vang to keep the boom level, so I went for a windsurfer-style wishbone arrangement. All bashed together out of whatever I had to hand, so it's a bit rough and ready, but if it works OK I can tart it up a bit later.
(Come on Martin, where's yours??)
Greg
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Posh name for Kicking Strap {-)
Ned
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Yes, boom vang = kicking strap, or any device to ensure the boom swings horizontally but doesn't rise into the air. You can see in a couple of your photos Martin that the sail is billowing out as the boom lifts when the sheet is let out. Ideally, the leech of the sail (the back edge) should be fairly straight whether the boom is sheeted hard in or let fully out. The sail should swing more like a door than a billowing tent! Conventionally, the vang is fitted from the underside of the boom down to the foot of the mast - you can see it on most model yachts, forming a triangle with the mast and boom - but with this rig there isn't room for that, so I made the wishbone thing I showed earlier. It would also be nice to have a proper gooseneck joining the boom to the mast, but that isn't so critical. If anyone else wants to chip in with any ideas, feel free :-))
It's been just a little bit breezy around here of late and I haven't run my Bat since I made the mods, so I can't yet offer any views on how well it goes. Maybe next week.
Greg
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A fascinating and well written article ! Martin :-))
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First tried in New Zealand 40 years ago ! great fun - Reignited the flame last year with our school rc club - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdWBAMP_CxE
email me for any help = cheers Phil
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Afternoon all!
A couple of things came out of the first run that all you yachtsmen can help me with:
1. Simple DIY "gooseneck" joint for the mast.
(bearing in mind the minimal boom mast gap, about 8mm)
2. A way of detaching the the 'outhaul' to the 'clew' in the boom for storage and transport.
(bearing in mind the minimal boom / deck gap, about 10mm)
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Hi Martin,
Super simple approach to your gooseneck could be tiny screw in hooks and eyes from the local DIY emporium,
epoxy short lengths of dowel into the mast and boom to give the screw something to bite into, popular on toy yachts etc.
Or 'binding' a fitting (ali right angle with a bolt pivot through it etc) to the mast with strong thread,
apply a coating of epoxy or varnish to beef it up and protect it - simple method of attaching items.
I have taken this a stage further using ball links for the gooseneck and kicker,
both are screwed into threaded holes in a piece of ali bar, this is then bound to the mast and filled and painted over,
see below photo - might spark off an idea !
Attaching lines to booms etc ? have a look at pictures of the smaller model yachts RG65 & 1 metres etc,
tight fitting rubber grommets pushed onto the boom with the line tied through or around the grommet gives an attachment,
then sliding the grommet along the boom gives sail adjustment.
Fishing tackle shops can also be a good source of model yacht fittings -
the little wire clips in the photo are fishing products I use to attach my lines etc, easily detachable for transport.
Hope this is food for thought and where's the action movie we are all itching to see !
regards Paul
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Case of Delhi belly last week stopped play with the BAT-1.... don't worry, I've disinfected the Forum now!
I've been pondering the Gooseneck thing for ages now, various options seemed viable.
Brass tubing and pin Gooseneck.
Couple of ball races around the mast wrapped with thin Aluminum sheet.
A smaller windsurfer type kicking strap ( like SailorGreg )
A RC car type steering ball joint
A commercial unit.
Anyway I thought I'd go round to PD's to see what we could knock up ourselves.
Various ideas came to mind.
A slotted pen body or a Split pin.... but which to try?1
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Well I've been ready to go for 3 days now but it seems the best cure for wind (weather type!) is build yourself a land yacht and that'll calm the weather down for a week! >:-o
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Here you go Martin, you need one of these............
(Seen at Cowes last night. 2nd pic shows the rest of the boat. Lookit the ropes on that!
(Any chance of smileys on Windows 10?)
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(Any chance of smileys on Windows 10?)
Smiles are browser dependent not OS.... {:-{
Try Chrome, Firefox, Opera etc.
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BTW: I still don't have wind!
Still for 2 weeks, now expecting thunder storms today! >:-o
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BTW: I still don't have wind!
There are plenty of foodstuffs that can solve that problem. ;)
Greg
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So are you going to show us all your gooseneck modification or not as the case might be
Dave
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Smileys. Oh, should've thought of that (seeing as I work in the computer industry!)
So it's Microsoft Edge that's the problem. I miss my smileys!
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STILL not had another chance to run the BAT due to my lack of wind!
( There are several people that will vehemently dispute that fact! )
In case you have one, HobbyKing are now advertising a list of available spare parts:
http://hobbyking.com.au/hobbyking/store/__1819__934__Boats_Parts-HobbyKing_Bat_1_RC_Land_Yacht.html
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That list of spares is interesting - unless the prices given are wrong, you can get a whole BAT (less servos etc) for a little over thirty quid! That's a lot cheaper than buying the boxed product! (Yes, I know there will be a bit of P&P but even so.... )
Or am I missing something here?
Greg
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Oh, and like Martin, the weather has kept my BAT grounded (moored? parked?). That and some recent personal maintenance work courtesy of the NHS. But soon, real soon...
Greg
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Get well son Greg! :-))
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Thanks dad ;)
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Get well son Greg! :-))
Does Mrs Mayhem know about this :D :D :D
Ned
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We all all have skeletons in the closet...
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So come on Martin you have made modifications to the Goosneck lets see it
Dave
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did we find out what the flat spatula was for? did I miss something? U2
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Not saying anything more until ! get some wind up and actually rub the thing again! >>:-(
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So...if you rub it, does the magic wind genie appear?
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So...if you rub it, does the magic wind genie appear?
I normally rub to try and get rid of the wind. Gaviscon does a good job too.
Really intrigued to see what the spatula is for.
It'll be a flying helmet and wet celery next!
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Actually, the spatula was too heavy in the end,a plastic one wasn't rigid enough, so swapped it for flattened stainless steel tube base from garden solar light....
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Did we get an answer as to what the flat garden solar light was for or did I miss something along with the something I missed about the spatula {-) , it's all very confusing....... U2
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I think Martin has gone quiet over the solar light, Mrs Martin has found out. He's on the run, quality live coward, keep moving, harder to hit!!!!!!
Mark
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Looks like the winds up tomorrow! :-)
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Looks like the winds up tomorrow! :-)
Warned you about the 'olde peculier',
I reckon the flat spatula thing is a drag brake.
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grasshopper, that's what I thought (page 3) but he won't tell us will he! :(( We'll find out sooner or later. U2
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No wind? No flat spatula, er sorry squashed garden light? Oh I've forgotten ITS BEEN SO LONG ! %% U2
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It is weird, I though this cornor of the world was winder than it really is!
Enough wind I guess but either when I'm at work or accompanied by rain...
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Has your SWMBO/Daughter discovered traces of their nail varnish on your model yet Martin?
Is the solar stalk being used as a bowsprit??
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Told you Martin send it up here plenty of wind here
Dave
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So much wind near Stavros it blows his avatar %) ........ U2
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As a long time landyachter (full size) and short term radio version one, I have read this topic with interest. A few things have jumped out and I feel the need to comment, you are welcome to shoot me down if you wish (or should I put whisk given the spatula ?)
Vang/kicking strap are not used on landyachts as if you sail them as you should, fully sheeted in all the time, they have no function. You will learn to tack downwind using apparent wind rather than true for speed around the course. You very barely ease the sheet except for bearing away then pull back in as the speed rises.
It was in the 80s that gooseneck or whatever you wish to call it was largely discarded on the full size yachts which did not use a wing mast. Reasons as above, as the boom became a simple function of keeping tack and clew apart and a place to attach the mainsheet.
The Batt (or is it Bat, ) was designed for HK by a well renowned Land Sailor in the US and uses some of the thinking he has gained over the years, as well as using KISS for commercial reasons.
When you set it up, make sure that the mainsheet can be pulled in hard at full extent of the lever. Then it will be enough slack at the other end of the range. Much of what you may have learned as a water sailor is irrelevant, even if you sail very fast boats. As a full size "wet" sailor, all I had learned with fast yachts like Tornado, International Canoe, 12 and 18 foot skiffs had to be unlearned when I took to wheels. The same applies for the RC ones, Marbleheads, 1 metres and multihulls are irrelevant to the RC landyachts.
Thanks for allowing my ravings.
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So, any word on the flattened solar light/spatula thingy? Does the land yacht live? I am just waiting for one to arrive and I am in the material gathering phase to build one.
Cheers
Tom
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Hey, Spring will soon be here! O0
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Ooooh, very cryptic. Does the spatula need a sunny day then? %)
Greg
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Ah ha a clue at last....... The spatula is for the BBQ.......... 8)
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I just joined this site and stumbled on these HK BAT1 threads. I thought I share these interesting links of the Hobby King with new clothes. Waiting for a windy day here to take mine to a larger area and let it rip!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2anwGrh4NQ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2anwGrh4NQ8)
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ha ha, come on Martin surely you must have had at least one free day when it's been windy......... It's been 9 months {-)
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I just joined this site and stumbled on these HK BAT1 threads. I thought I share these interesting links of the Hobby King with new clothes. Waiting for a windy day here to take mine to a larger area and let it rip!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2anwGrh4NQ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2anwGrh4NQ8)
Interesting mods in the video. And if you are still waiting for the wind, we could let you have some - we've had a surplus just recently!
Turning to Martin's spatula mod - I reckon he is building a wind-powered lawn mower. Or maybe a pooper scooper. :-)
Greg
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I am starting to think Martin is a spy, he uses everyday objects and turns them into something new but is able to keep it secret from all around him O0 ........... How much longer can he keep it up I wonder?
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Two additional links, of the improved Hobby King, that were posted on You Tube recently. Man!, many people are having fun in their locations with wind, I am still waiting for a day where I can say I got a satisfying run with mine. It is like wishing for a miracle right now. Little wind that comes and goes. SailorGreg do send wind this way, absolutely! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHvdryLNCJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2a3Ky1SX4
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If you want wind then buy a model aeroplane that needs a calm day, you'll get wind for weeks.......
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My Bat1 arrived today so I will put it together and try and get it out in the air tomorrow.
Tom
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We'll compair notes!
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Martin, don't bother with the Bat1. You won't enjoy it at all ... it won't put a smile on your face ... it won't make you feel like a kid again! It won't make you look like a right pratt whilst applying body english to try and get it to go faster or turn sharper! It did, however, attract a couple of ladies walking their dog :-)) Oh ya ... watch out for the fun police ... they just don't understand!
Tom
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Here is one heavily modified looks much better than stock. You just need wind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0QgGho8T70
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Been trying to get some time on the Bat1 but it is hard when it keeps snowing!
Tom
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A very big thank you!
Some fantastic posts on your forum very helpful, thank you model boat forum:-)
Cheers
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I posted on the MBM Facebook page, as I have just bought one of these. And someone posted the link to this thread.
Some great tips, and advice, and I will not be using the cocktail stick in my build.