Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: Stan on August 06, 2015, 05:08:30 pm
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Hi now that the minesweeper build is coming to the end I have 2 models in build U S S Whitehall and also the Elco boat. Just a few pictures showing motors /props and rudders. Rudders need more work on them before final fitting.
Stan.
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Very neat work Stan. Your shafts are exposed I take it with just short tubes to make the transit through the hull water tight?
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HI Guys just a few shots showing internals items fitted. R/X to fit and connect battery set speedo etc hope to sea test next Sunday.
Stan.
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I like the rudder control arrangements Stan. All in all, quite a tidy build so far.
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Nicely laid out Stan - looking forward to seeing this one develop O0
Regards,
Ray.
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Hi Guys fitting out is now completed. Everything ready for sea trials on Sunday. I have opted for 27 MHz to control this model is seems a shame to fit a four channel set when you only need two. I have enclosed some close up shots of the internals some of these may have already been posted sorry about that. The aerial wire is fed through plastic tubes and will be tensioned using a elastic band something from my model flying days .
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Stan,
Not a great lover of the long exposed shafts after the coupling without any support.
Bob
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Very neat Stan.
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HI Bob the distance from the end of the couplings is very small no problems with vibration at all. The motors run perfectly but if some are needed simple to fit. All the external shaft supports have bearings fitted to them and also brass pegs that go into the hull giving more support.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Dry fitted the deck most of the items will be under the cabin sections. Also a picture showing the minesweeper build which is coming to an end along side my next project.
Stan.
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Great build, where did you get the bits for the rudder coupling thingys? The bits with the screws in the top :-)
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HI the brass fittings with the screw in the top are from SLEC OR Sun lane engineering. The small bell cranks are from Deans marine hope this helps.
Stan.
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Very helpful thank you :-))
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Excellent minesweeper build and something to aspire to with my Elco build
Ps The garden looks lovely as well :-))
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Sunday 16/8/15 Elco had first sea trial major problem with noise from motor couplings at full revs. These have been removed and Robbe rubber connectors fitted this has reduced the noise. The 385 motors gave a good scale speed.
Stan.
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Nice build, i to used the red version of these couplings and found lots of vibration and noise!!! :(( Fitted a coupling from Marks Model Boat Bits ( it uses a plastic / rubber type coupling tube ) and hey presto, silent as a mouse and no vibration. :-)
Regards, Dave.
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Old couplings removed rubber tube fitted no further vibration problems. New 27mhz radio taken back due to range problems model is now fitted with Tamco 2.4 set. At 11.1 volts a nice scale speed is obtained I have tried motors up to 14.4 volts to noisy. I wanted a scale look to this model hence the use of brushed motors.
Stan
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That is good thick tube Stan. I will look at the Marks model site.
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Fitting out is now complete next job is to source some new props this week end at Haydock from prop shop. Next week should see the build start if all goes well. If your are going to Haydock come along to the Kirklees Stand.
Stan.
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New props fitted tested in the test tank{BATH}much better. Further sea trials on Sunday.
Stan.
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Sea trial done this afternoon much better motors only slightly warm. Final fitting consists of the following
Three MFA 385 motors One 11.1 volt lipo battery. Two channel Tamco 2. 4 radio set. A M troniks Tio speed controller. A 10 amp fuse is fitted this handles all three motors with no problems. Hoping to move on the building now.
Stan.
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Due to other things that need doing I will not be working on my models for the next month. But I will be back.
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Are you going off on your travels again then Stan?
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High spooksgone only been back from Normandy two weeks pictures to follow when time allows. Next trip Duxford Battle of Britain air show and R A F Museum Hendon.
Stan.
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Wow Stan, RAF Hendon. I went there a couple of years ago, didn't want to leave the place, certainly going back again, jaw dropping place.
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Saturday morning managed to get a few hours in. I have fitted 1/4 sq hard balsa under the deck . Fitting the braces I hope will stop or reduce the spring in the deck area when you snap fit the superstructure in place. I have used a building adhesive Sticks all from everbuild to fit the balsa braces.
Stan
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Taking it all in Stan and tx for your guidance so far, hope to have prop shafts and rudders fitted in mine in a week or so bur basically copying your set up for my first build.
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Just a few pictures. I am using magnets to hold down the cabin sections these are glued on to timber frames. Other pictures show bow weapons in place. Sorry to be so brief and not the best pictures but at the moment modelling time is in short supply.
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I hope there will be a arc inhibtor for that 20mm gun as the 37mm crew wouldn't be too happy if 20mm rounds started whizzing past their heads!
Looking good Stan:O)
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Hi guys very little done over the last month and it looks like it will be December before I get back to full time building. I have managed to do little on the Elco I have replaced the plastic frame work on the stern section with brass wire much better than plastic. That's about all take care.
Stan
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Excellent framework Stan. That must have been a good afternoons bending, shaping and soldering.
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Hi everyone it seems ages now since I got in my workshop and it looks like it will be the end of November before any modelling is done again. I have two projects to finish and some repair work to be done on one model. Happy building everyone I will be back.
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Oh dear oh dear Stan. You let your list of DIY get backed up and now its off to the DIY place for weeks to come for stuff :((
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DI Y coming to the end looking forward to getting back into building again more to follow.
Stan.
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Hope to start building again this week.More pics to follow next week
Stan. :-))
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Back in the garage now just done a little on the Elco. The brass etch plate that fits around the towing eye has been put in the bin to thick for my liking. I have made one from plastic card sheet marked and drilled out for the rivet positions. I have used plastic rivets from S B Models Barrow in Furness see pictures attached more to follow on this build. The product range is called Grandt Line.
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Hi guys you may wondering what has happened to this build. It is on hold at the moment.Hoping to have complete for Ellesmere show in March.
Stan
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I believe Stan's garage/mancave is like a fridge at the moment and I don't blame him for staying in the warm and doing some research :-))
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HI Guys just to let you know this project is on hold at the moment but not forgotten.
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Hi everyone I have displayed this model at Ellesmere Port this weekend and it roused a quite a lot of interest.It proved very popular in the way it was wired and the way the rudder system was connected .I had numerous comments and thanks for displaying this plastic conversation.Pictures can be seen in earlier pages of this post.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-))
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This build is now underway again along the Whitehall more to follow.
Stan.
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The model is almost finished now should be in paint shop by end of the month . Just a few pictures showing construction so far.
Stan.
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Hi Stan
That's a very nice model you have their :-) :-) I've probably missed it but who's the kit manufacture?
Thanks:)
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Hi Stan
That's a very nice model you have their :-) :-) I've probably missed it but who's the kit manufacture?
Thanks:)
Italeri
http://shop.italeri.com/Products/6468-5602-elco-80-pt-596-torpedo-boat.aspx
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HI Guys just fitting magnets inside hull to hold down the deck area. Small platforms made from 15mm wide timber glued in place and magnets fixed in to them.
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Started to apply grey primer will post pictures before final paint scheme is applied pictures to follow.
Stan
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Some pictures of the Elco in grey primer. More to follow.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-))
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HI everyone just a few pictures showing paint work started. Notice the variations in shades of green.The light shade is green 2 and the darker shade is green 3 the deck is much darker green. Below waterline Norfolk anti fouling red more to follow.
Stan
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Just a few more pictures showing the various shades green used on this model. Guns are painted mixing polished aluminium and black. More to follow.
Stan.
Deck green US 20 g
Green 2.
Green 3
Anti fouling red US14
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Just a little more today having fun marking out the pattern on the hull side. Easy side done first enjoy.
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Brilliant work Stan :-)) That mix of silver and black is pretty near the mark. Lovely job with the variations of green and looking forward to see the finished article. Don't tug too many hairs out stressig over the cam scheme, it was probably applied free had anyway based on a pattern drawn by a PO or Officer.
Lookin good:O)
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Hi work stopped at the moment. Just made the pattern shapes for the hull sides. When they are dry will cut out and mark the shape on to masking tape.
Stan.
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Super intricate Stan!
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Hi all. When this build is complete I will have a set of cardboard templates for the hull side patterns.I am willing to send them on if .any one needs them.Please p/m if interested
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Looks good
I keep looking at this kit and I think I'm going to hint at it for my birthday next month <*<
If anyone is interested I ham happy to scan these and hold them on file so I can then cut them on the vinyl cutter for anyone who needs a set
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I will keep your offer in mind if and when I give this kit a go.
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HI Guys most of the hull markings are now complete. Just a few shots showing final masking prior to spraying.
Stan.
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Looking good Stan. Thanks for the offer, But I could not even imagine when I would have time in my want to build list to start an Elco. You are very kind. Apologies for not speaking to you today, I am poorly:O(
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HI guys I have now nearly finished the hull markings but there is some work to do on the transom. Holding this to mark out the other colours proved difficult. Two piece's of timber were screwed to the bench to rest the transom on curtain hooks screwed into the bench then two elastic bands did the rest see pictures. Also some general shots enjoy. Sorry one of the pictures is out of focus
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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You're a wizard with the masking tape Stan! Very nice
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Still painting. Seems to go on for ever. Just a few pictures showing the masking of small deck items. Even with a fine tip in my a/brush I still need a large area to be masked off. On the stern hatch I have used 2in wide tape and shaped it like small box this allows me to be able to spray in all directions with no overspray. If you have in your area a quay plastics trade outlet I can recommend there masking tape for the large area work save the Tamiya for more detailed work
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Well another build almost complete. Just adding the final touches and build a nice stand hope to have complete by the end of next week more pictures to follow.
Stan.
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I look forward to see her complete Stan. The camouflage came out really good :-))
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Well another build almost complete. Just a few odds and ends to fit I am waiting for a nice stand and other parts to finish the model. Will post final pictures when I have these parts until then enjoy this group of pictures. If you are thinking of building the model for r/c please feel free to send me a p/m if you need advice
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More pictures.
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Spiffing! I was surrised to hear she was destroyed given the sheer amount of weaponry she carried! Lovely job Stan, you should be proud ofyour work.
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Looks excellent Stan and thanks for all your advice during my first build of the Elco :-)) :-))
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Another gorgeous model from "Uncle Stan's" slipway. Brilliant work once again Stan - well done. :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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Hi Guys stand is now complete just a few pictures showing use of the kit stand fitted to a wood stand and some general shots 0f the model. Still waiting for the flag for the mast and a crew figure to make for the bridge enjoy. Sorry for cutting of the bow in the first shot also just noticed some runs on the wood stand they will have be sanded of.
Stan.
Kirklees Model Boat Club. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Lovely job Stan :-)) It's a work of art. I bet that is going to look so realistic on the water. Thanks for sharing.
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Beautiful detail work Stan. Thanks for sharing. Dennis
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She's a bobby dazzler alright Stan! Love the camo and the details. I am sorry to hear that your fishing boat is being a beast %%
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Well all the work put in to this build paid off at the Model Boat Convention. Of all the models on our club stand this little model was awarded best on club stand.
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Congratulations Stan! You deserved the accolade :-))
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Check out this conversation. Three motors triple rudders no problems. Replace plastic parts with brass wire were possible.
Stan.
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Hi Arjan yes W E M paints on this model.Just one crew figure to paint and fit hopefully then sea trials.
Stan.
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Hi Stan,
Pity the WEM paint is no longer available although I must say I prefer working with acrylics. Especially the light green colour (US Navy WWII 2 green) puzzled me, somehow it looks different whenever the lighting conditions change but I would now say that Tamiya Field Grey (XF 65) is a very close match. I'm looking forward to some action footage and some pics of your crew. I bought both Italeri PT crew sets and have carried out some surgery on them (e.g. increasing the length of some legs) and reshaping helmets. I must confess I even drilled out their torsos to get rid of a few grams, needless to say I'm an obsessive weight watcher ;) .
Regards,
Arjan
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Hi Arjan W E M paints are now sold by sovereign hobbies Scotland full range.I intend to only fit one crew figure.Paint colours are Green 2 Green 3 Deck Green 20 G and I never use Black instead a very dark grey.Having checked the sovereign site they have dealer in the Netherlands.
Stan.
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I hope to get this in the water early in the new year. To busy with work at home and club activities. I have been asked how to wire up 3 motors using one speedo will try to sketch and post on mayhem.
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Very nice Stan!
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Hi rem 2007 scroll through these pages should find all the info you need. Pictures of your build please.
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:-)) :-)) :-)) thanks Stan...
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Hi I have reposted this topic for a guy in Australia hope it helps.
Stan
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Hi Stan
What a lovely clean build.Nice talking to you last night, regarding our conversation about acrylic adhesive,I have ordered two 80g packs of Stabilit from Germany via Ebay.Will let you know if it turns up %)
Regards
Nigel
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Nice build.
Sorry its off topic but where did you get the german minesweeper kit from .
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The kit was made by Robbe sadly they have folded. You could try contacting Krick to see if they plan to release the kit in the future. Please note my model is not built from the kit lots of scratch building to do.
Stan