Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: Dan.Lord on September 16, 2015, 10:46:49 am
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Hi all, managed to get my Bluebell :-)) as you can see it's an old Matchbox kit, I've been through the contents, & all appears to be present, apart form 2 glass ( plastic ) portholes, but I'm sure I'll be able to use something else. nice to see it as some crew, & the flags are sort of cloth material, so that's good.
I've brought the necessary bit's n bobs from SHG, to make her R/C so that should be fun %%
All the mouldings look to be very clean & crisp, from what I remember of matchbox they were always a nice fit, so lets hope this one is too :D
I think I'll upgrade some of the parts like the railings etc, as they look a bit lifeless.
Cheers Dan.
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Pour some glue into the box, seal it up, shake it up for 20 minutes and voilą!
.... obviously, add paint for colour.
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Wow - you're very lucky! I'd LOVE to have an original Matchbox Flower Class model.
I bought the Revell re-issue back in 2003 (brand new for £40 from Revell Germany) and it was very poor quality. The 2 halves of the moulds were badly aligned so nothing fitted properly.
I was really diappointed in the early Revell model after many years of coveting the Matchbox model from afar in Beatties model shop - it was WAY too expensive when I was young.
I've built another couple of them since and the quality is better, but still not a good as the originals.
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Pour some glue into the box, seal it up, shake it up for 20 minutes and voilą!
.... obviously, add paint for colour.
Lol sounds like a plan :-)) I'll throw in the motor etc & hope they find the correct place to live {-) Watch this space %%
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Wow - you're very lucky! I'd LOVE to have an original Matchbox Flower Class model.
I bought the Revell re-issue back in 2003 (brand new for £40 from Revell Germany) and it was very poor quality. The 2 halves of the moulds were badly aligned so nothing fitted properly.
I was really diappointed in the early Revell model after many years of coveting the Matchbox model from afar in Beatties model shop - it was WAY too expensive when I was young.
I've built another couple of them since and the quality is better, but still not a good as the originals.
Cheers Plastic, I paid 60 quid for this one, not cheap, but cheaper than getting a Revell one :embarrassed: some one's written on the back of the box purchased in 1980, so she's been stored a while %% I think i'll start her this weekend esp if this weather keeps up :D Can't mow the grass if it's wet now can I !!!! :-))
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Wow - you're very lucky! I'd LOVE to have an original Matchbox Flower Class model.
I bought the Revell re-issue back in 2003 (brand new for £40 from Revell Germany) and it was very poor quality. The 2 halves of the moulds were badly aligned so nothing fitted properly.
I was really diappointed in the early Revell model after many years of coveting the Matchbox model from afar in Beatties model shop - it was WAY too expensive when I was young.
I've built another couple of them since and the quality is better, but still not a good as the originals.
I remember this one being in My local Model shop when I was a kid.... I remember the price as well... 29.99. This was back in 1982/83
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ahhh the good old days, bought mine in '82 £26.00, its main engine was powered by 4 D sized batteries - yep that bad, I aint got any better {-)
RC was a acoms 2 channel, still got her, shes had a couple of updates in the early 20 years, but not for a while, still have the two books, mine has an airfix bofors replacing the pedestal gun as the kit gun is atrocious, the main 4" is original but its hidden under the canopy so the detail is easily overlooked, was going to convert the gun to a german 88 back half to improve the look but decided to keep the original with a bit of moulding canvas.
mine also has the two bridge guns replaced with 1/35 Tamiya willys MB jeep 50 cal machine guns as these were better looking than those in the kit.
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Managed to start the hull, glued both sections together & fitted the main prop shaft. This had to be done very carefully, as there wasn't much hull left by the time I'd drilled & filed it out to get the shaft to fit. In the end it went in with a nice tight fit & I've dropped some epoxy all over it to seal any small gaps that might be present. I've also smoothed off the edge where the hull joins, but I reckon it'll need some filler finish it off .
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It's difficult to tell from the photos Dan, is there sufficient clearance between propshaft and hull, on the inside, to attach a motor or would you use a small pulley system ?
Regards,
Ray.
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Does look a bit close to the hull.
Maybe it's the camera angle.
Ned
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Wow - you're very lucky! I'd LOVE to have an original Matchbox Flower Class model.
I bought the Revell re-issue back in 2003 (brand new for £40 from Revell Germany) and it was very poor quality. The 2 halves of the moulds were badly aligned so nothing fitted properly.
I was really diappointed in the early Revell model after many years of coveting the Matchbox model from afar in Beatties model shop - it was WAY too expensive when I was young.
I've built another couple of them since and the quality is better, but still not a good as the originals.
the revel kit IS the matchbox kit. I have 3 revell issues and 4 original Matchbox versions.
Earlier this year a Mr Dave Abbott was talking to me as he had just made a corvette that had been left on his bin outside his house for him by someone. He had been trying to source the decals for it for 6 months to finish it off but had had no success from Revell. I mentioned that I had a few bits left and delivered him an original set of Matchbox decals and a Revell set. He used the original set......from 1979! and they came out perfect. no silvering or fragility!! He was more than impressed that I had a spare set of original decals and that I would let him have them for free!
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a corvette that had been left on his bin outside his house for him by someone.
That will have me checking my bin on Monday morning O0 {-) {-)
Regards,
Ray.
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Well your not getting your hands on any of mine! Lol
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Ive measured the distance from the end of the shaft to the bilge, its 19mm so plenty of room for the coupling to meet the motor :-))
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Thanks for that Dan.
Must have been the camera angle, as suggested above. :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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the revel kit IS the matchbox kit. I have 3 revell issues and 4 original Matchbox versions.
Earlier this year a Mr Dave Abbott was talking to me as he had just made a corvette that had been left on his bin outside his house for him by someone. He had been trying to source the decals for it for 6 months to finish it off but had had no success from Revell. I mentioned that I had a few bits left and delivered him an original set of Matchbox decals and a Revell set. He used the original set......from 1979! and they came out perfect. no silvering or fragility!! He was more than impressed that I had a spare set of original decals and that I would let him have them for free!
Yes - it's the same moulds - but the care of their alignment and the quality of the pastic are nowhere near as good as the old Matchbox version.
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Dave Abbott did a review of the Revell kit for Model Boats magazine a little while back. His article is on the MB website: http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/hmcs-snowberry/10039
Colin
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Dave Abbott did a review of the Revell kit for Model Boats magazine a little while back. His article is on the MB website: http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/hmcs-snowberry/10039
Colin
That's the one I supplied the decals for . He ran this boat at watermead and Black Park open days in the last few weeks and no doubt it will be on display at the St Albans show at the end of September as well
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Dave Abbott did a review of the Revell kit for Model Boats magazine a little while back. His article is on the MB website: http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/hmcs-snowberry/10039 (http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/hmcs-snowberry/10039)
Colin
Thanks for the link Colin :-)) I like looking at other peoples builds gives me inspiration :embarrassed: Cheers Dan
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makes me envious - if ever I get the time i'll have to upgrade mine to look better.
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makes me envious - if ever I get the time i'll have to upgrade mine to look better.
Get a new 'old' kit and build another. There were 3 different versions in the box.
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too many boats to redo - finish off - upgrade and no space and the cost for any is getting higher each year, plus I'm jinxed, every time I try to upgrade one of start one, work starts to get in the way or something or other happens, the card board boat is on hold for the time being due to things happening at work - for the worse. >>:-(
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Hmmm same problem here. I sold 3 boats and then got given 7 boats. And I'm sure they are breeding in my shed!
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Got a little further today, Filled the cracks etc, & fitted the bilge keels, they were fun to fit, ended up using cyno,as they kept springing back up >:-o got there in the end though :D Also made up the rudder, as in the review, I used a shop rudder & cut it down & fitted the original model rudder over it & used epoxy to glue them together. I had to adjust the angle of the post a bit to get the rudder to sit correct, but with a bit of plastic metal to fill the gap it looks pretty good. Just got to trim the shaft down a it to fit under the deack & jobs a gooden :-))
Pleased with the results so far :embarrassed:
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Nice work so far!
A suggestion - Because the rudder tube has to be cut down to fit under the deck, I normally put a bulkhead just in front of the rudder post to limit where any water ingress can get to.
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Nice work so far!
A suggestion - Because the rudder tube has to be cut down to fit under the deck, I normally put a bulkhead just in front of the rudder post to limit where any water ingress can get to.
That's a good idea :-))
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I have just got the platinum edition, not started it yet so it will be interesting to see how yours turns out .
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Managed to get a little done today, I was supposed to go for a trip on the old Waverley paddle steamer, but it got cancelled due to the high winds & couldn't load :(( so I did some rubbing down etc. Filled all the edges where the hull sections fit, & given it all a good coat of primer, pretty pleased with the results ( If I do say so myself !! ) Also got the rudder fitting nicely, & trimmed the shaft to fit under the stern deck, but in the process noticed that the hull join is really visible, so a bit more sanding & filler work needed there :(( Had to order a servo too, thought I had one but can't find it , so I'll have to wait before I can get the deck on %% I think I'll paint the hull first anyway, then fit the port hole glass :-))
Anyway a little progress is better than none !!
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Will you be getting any upgrade kits? Or are you building straight from the box. Going well so far .
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Hi I'm looking into getting some Stanchions in etched brass, as I don't fancy cutting all the little lengths of plastic, I remember getting a sheet for a boat I built along time ago, but I can't remember where I got them from {:-{
Question If anyone knows a good place to get said stanchions I'd be grateful for a nod in the right direction O0
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Well, I supply 1/72 stanchions but I'm thinking the kit requires more than the standard stanchion which I supply in some places
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Cheers for that :-)) I've decided to go for the individual brass one's. They look pretty good & will fit in the holes already in the decks :embarrassed: many Thanks though Dan.
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Dan have you worked out how you are going to do the deck yet so as to get access to the r/c, I have started mine, had the same issues you had, but my hull is warped out near the mid section so will have to glue the deck to the hull, but I need access.? Decided to fit a smoke generator.
Chris
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Do the research on the boat. If memory serves I believe the English and US boats had steel decks not wood. Canadians had wooden decks. I stand to be corrected on this. Been a few years since i researched it!
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Another one on eBay at the moment... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Matchbox-Flower-Class-Corvette-P-M-R-c-Electric-Powered-Boat-With-Motor-/381422110810?hash=item58ce87885a )
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Another one on eBay at the moment... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Matchbox-Flower-Class-Corvette-P-M-R-c-Electric-Powered-Boat-With-Motor-/381422110810?hash=item58ce87885a (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Matchbox-Flower-Class-Corvette-P-M-R-c-Electric-Powered-Boat-With-Motor-/381422110810?hash=item58ce87885a) )
No bids so far,If anyone wants to go for it, I can always scan the instructions for them from mine :-))
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Dan have you worked out how you are going to do the deck yet so as to get access to the r/c, I have started mine, had the same issues you had, but my hull is warped out near the mid section so will have to glue the deck to the hull, but I need access.? Decided to fit a smoke generator.
Chris
Hi Chris, I was going to fix the rear deck in position, & leave the mid deck loose with maybe a lip on the front to slide under the fore deck to help hold it in place. See the review link in an earlier post their method looks good. I have a 6v Graupner smoke generator also so I thought I'd fit it too.
Sprayed the red anti fouling yesterday, & major set back >:-o totally reacted with primer, both acrylic paint, so don't know what went wrong there >>:-( oh hum, plenty of rubbing down on Sunday {-) Got next week off, so hoping to make a bit of progress on her !!
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Found this nice colour picture on the inter web the other day :-)) HMCS job
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A piccy of my Dis-ar-ster :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
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Oh Chris, I brought this book, got loads of interesting info & pictures of models & real ships
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flower-Class-Corvettes-Shipcraft-Special-Lambert-Brown-Seaforth-P-9781848320642-/151690809767?hash=item23517a11a7
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Crikey, what happened there? I would expect that if spraying acrylic over enamel, but not like on top of like. I assume they are from the same manufacturer?
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No different makers, but both said Acrylic on the tin, so went for it <:( oh well at least it didn't melt it, I'll get some wet n dry & flat it off :-)) I'll stick with Humbrol next time %%
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Hi Dan. Acrylic paint is not always the same, it looks to me the red has split not reacted, I may be wrong but as the primer is mixed to a different formula it may have needed to vent a lot longer, even though it was dry it was still gasing, the red held the gas in and then split. The answer is if you are useing spray cans use the same maker for both , if you can smell fumes from the primer leave it until it stops. I have the tea shirt on that.
As for the deck I will do the same with some magnets to hold it down. I have found some on this site. www.magneticdisplays.co.uk. Thanks for the pic. Regards Chris
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Hi Dan. Acrylic paint is not always the same, it looks to me the red has split not reacted, I may be wrong but as the primer is mixed to a different formula it may have needed to vent a lot longer, even though it was dry it was still gasing, the red held the gas in and then split. The answer is if you are useing spray cans use the same maker for both , if you can smell fumes from the primer leave it until it stops. I have the tea shirt on that.
As for the deck I will do the same with some magnets to hold it down. I have found some on this site. www.magneticdisplays.co.uk (http://www.magneticdisplays.co.uk). Thanks for the pic. Regards Chris
Hi Chris, yes i'm sure you're right, I might have been a little hasty putting on the coats :embarrassed: not good being an ex car sprayer by trade {-) I'm gonna rub it down tomorrow, it's nice n dry now :} Very good idea on the Magnets, plenty on ebay :-))
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Hi the magnets sounds interesting do they interfere with the radio gear Bill......
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Hi the magnets sounds interesting do they interfere with the radio gear Bill......
Good point :-)) I guess we'll find out soon enough :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Anyway, after lots of rubbing down, which was a pain due to the plates, I've given her a coat of primer again, & all seems well. I'm gonna let this coat dry hard & give it a quick nib off tomorrow & apply a couple more coats & see how we go from there. Anymore cock ups like this & I'll <*<
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Hi the magnets sounds interesting do they interfere with the radio gear Bill......
I have seen other sites and u-tube where others have used them on r/c subs and boats and they haven't had any problems. I think you use the magnetic tape which is like the type they have on fridge magnets and just use a small piece in two or three areas. What I have found on e-bay is self adhesive magnetic strip which can be cut with scissors ,it's in a roll . You get two types of magnetic tape ,one of each A&B which attract each other.
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Hi Dan that looks better , what red paint will you use this time ? Personally I wouldn't put to much primer on, and then just thin coats of red drying each one. Anyway you should know as a car sprayer. I used to work in a body shop as well. I have noticed that some corvettes were black underneath ?
Chris
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Hi guys using magnets to hold down cabin section on the plastic Elco boat see post in warships and military. Sailed the model on sea trails with no problems. I am using magnets used by the aero modelers
Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Hi Dan that looks better , what red paint will you use this time ? Personally I wouldn't put to much primer on, and then just thin coats of red drying each one. Anyway you should know as a car sprayer. I used to work in a body shop as well. I have noticed that some corvettes were black underneath ?
Chris
I'll see if I can get some red primer the same make as the grey, Simonez I think it is. I'll put another couple of grey coats on as you can see where I rubbed it through in places, this coat was only a very light dust coat to seal it really.
Yes I see some had black bottoms :embarrassed: too ,but according to the colour charts Bluebell had red, so I'll stick with that.
On the Magnet side I'm going to order this as it looks pretty good I think
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Matching-Pair-1-metre-of-1-2-wide-flexible-self-adhesive-magnetic-strip-craft-/181860998162?hash=item2a57c29c12
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That's like the stuff I have ordered, it may be £2.60 per roll but to send it to Cyprus they want £11.05 postage. This is one of the problems we have out here. I tend to buy things on e bay from China, it may take a month to get here but the postage is free. We don't have any model shops in Paphos the nearest one is Limassol if you can find them open, but as there's no Web site you don't know what your getting. Chris
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That's like the stuff I have ordered, it may be £2.60 per roll but to send it to Cyprus they want £11.05 postage. This is one of the problems we have out here. I tend to buy things on e bay from China, it may take a month to get here but the postage is free. We don't have any model shops in Paphos the nearest one is Limassol if you can find them open, but as there's no Web site you don't know what your getting. Chris
pity you already ordered it. I could have sent you some for just the postage, prob only a couple of quid, you only need a few inches really {:-{
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Success :-)) Gave it a couple more coats of grey , then went straight wet on wet with the Red, both the same make this time %% Got a nice smooth finish, now let that go off & get the waterline taped & a coat of Grey for the upper. Nice to see some colour on it.
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Only one problem Dan, you've sprayed it upside down! %)
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Only one problem Dan, you've sprayed it upside down! %)
There's no flies on you Martin {-) I wondered who'd spot my mistake first %%
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That's alright Martin, all Dan has to do is hang from the roof beams by his feet when spraying the top coat:O)
Oh, you meant that the grey went on before the red? I am sure Dan has a cunning plan to bring the grey back.
I am glad you got the paint to behave this time. Smooth is the word for that lovely job :-))
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Its OK Dan.......looks like those Dockies %) did a good paint job with the RED primer
Now the question is.......will that said RED primer be waterproof?........or after a certain number of hours [2 & 1/4 max] being immersed in the briny will it absorb sufficient moisture through the porous surface & then collectively fall off your plastic hull?
I have little experience here ....so hopefully someone ;D [a highly experienced person in the art of model dockyard hull preparation and painting] may offer some worldly advice .... Derek
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Cheers for that :-)) I've decided to go for the individual brass one's. They look pretty good & will fit in the holes already in the decks :embarrassed: many Thanks though Dan.
Dan where are you going to get them i am thinking along the same lines, but you need 77 @ 15mm and 16@ 11mm. Very expensive, if you have a contact let me know.
Chris
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Its OK Dan.......looks like those Dockies %) did a good paint job with the RED primer
Now the question is.......will that said RED primer be waterproof?........or after a certain number of hours [2 & 1/4 max] being immersed in the briny will it absorb sufficient moisture through the porous surface & then collectively fall off your plastic hull?
I have little experience here ....so hopefully someone ;D [a highly experienced person in the art of model dockyard hull preparation and painting] may offer some worldly advice .... Derek
That is a thought, {:-{ on the plus side, I've used the same before on a previous build ( HMS Leeds Castle ) & it's held up to the elements, I can just hope this one will too :embarrassed:
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Dan where are you going to get them i am thinking along the same lines, but you need 77 @ 15mm and 16@ 11mm. Very expensive, if you have a contact let me know.
Chris
Chris I'm going to get mine from here, as you say expensive but no point spoiling the ship foe a hapeth of tar as they say :embarrassed: Oh thanks for counting them by the way, saves me a job :-))
http://www.modellingtimbers.co.uk/40.html
Oh he's away until the end of he month, so I'll order mine then. Great bloke to talk to also
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Thanks Dan for the attachment, I found this on e-bay no 180926444650 , 9806 Pavel. Take a look, might work out cheaper, by the way double check the number of stanchions just to make sure. Love the model of HMS Leeds Castle, a very well done ship.
Chris
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modelling timbers is a ace supply and as said great guy to deal with
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Thanks Dan for the attachment, I found this on e-bay no 180926444650 , 9806 Pavel. Take a look, might work out cheaper, by the way double check the number of stanchions just to make sure. Love the model of HMS Leeds Castle, a very well done ship.
Chris
Yeah they might work out a little cheaper,[size=78%] although Keith said if I buy a decent quantity, he'll do a bit of discount, plus the chap was really helpful, so I'm going to stick with him [/size] :-))
Thanks for the Compliment on Leeds Castle, she was my brothers last ship before he came out of the RN, brought the Hull & scratch built the rest. 1:72nd scale, was a pain getting bits to fit >:-o
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Also got the top Grey painted, just got to do the camo pattern now :-)) Looks nice with the brass prop on too :-)
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Got the camo detail done :-)) Not quite the exact image on the instructions, but looks near enough :embarrassed:
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Mine has that biscuit colour up front as well - looks strange - actually never liked it, might break it up a lot if I ever get time to refit her again, I used humbrol paint in the 80's, still solid and as far as I know intact. bueatiful finish :-))
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Cheers Warspite :embarrassed: :embarrassed: I'm not to keen on the front colour either, but better put it on as it says so {-)
Not sure weather to use the original decals seal them with matt varnish or get some new ones made up in vinyl {:-{ I've used some flat clear abs sheet to cover the port holes, that way I could make sure they are well sealed so not to let water in. Starting to see some progress now :-)) [size=78%] [/size]
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Finished fitting all the port hole glass, & fitted rear deck in place & made a tray for the battery to fit in. Floated her for the 1st time today to get the battery in the best place, sits nice & level & no water ingress :-))
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Good to see her afloat Dan. I had to take a second look at that last photo - it's a kind of optical illusion in that, at first glance, I thought you had painted the inside of the Bow a brown colour. :o
(It's the fo'c'sle deck, of course) :embarrassed:
Regards,
Ray.
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Hi Dan. She is looking good, I seem to take one step forward two back,then wait for weeks for things to arrive . If you don't like the front colour you can just put the grey back. There's a colour pic in John Lambert book ,later date but who knows when it was changed? What battery did you use.
Don't know what ship I will do yet ?
Chris
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Hi thanks for nice comments :embarrassed: The fo'c'sle deck is just placed on at the mo, will fit it soon. I've decided I quite like the front colour now, breaks it up a bit, I wonder why they didn't put it anywhere else on the hull ?
Anyway, glad it didn't sink {-)
I used this type of battery as I thought it would double up as ballast, & it also helped that I had one in the cupboard :-))
Must be annoying for you Chris having to wait ages for things to arrive {:-{
http://www.componentshop.co.uk/6v-4-5ah-sealed-lead-acid-battery.html
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Disaster >>:-( just finished spraying the hull when it fell nose ( bow ) first off the workmate when I moved it to get something. It has put a 2 inch split down the bow , from the deck down. Not on the seam but to the side of it, goes to show it's a weak point. So be aware.
Chris
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Disaster >>:-( just finished spraying the hull when it fell nose ( bow ) first off the workmate when I moved it to get something. It has put a 2 inch split down the bow , from the deck down. Not on the seam but to the side of it, goes to show it's a weak point. So be aware.
Chris
Damn, that's not good >:-o I bet you're well >>:-( Can you glue it ok ? Are you doing a build thread ? would be nice to see some progress piccys :-))
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Were you going for the 'battle damage' look Chris?! {:-{
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More likely after it had rammed a submarine %) %)
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Ha Ha :} Now the hull has gone out of shape due to the split and the cross members braking out >>:-( If i get anymore problems I shall make a model of a U boat, and name mine Compass Rose.
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Sorry to hear of your disaster. If you still really dislike that green I have to say that it does not look right in what appears to be an Admiralty Disruptive scheme. I would expect that bow area to be G20, a medium greenish grey. Or do you have proof that it is right? Kit instructions are not infallible.
If your hull is irreparable I believe Deans do a replacement in 1/72.
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Jonty. I think you got us mixed up, Dan is the one with the camouflage, mine is the one with the problems.
Chris
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Not so much a green, more of a biscuit (pale rich tea shade), was perplexed when I put it on mine - reminds me got to get it out of storage.
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Easily confused, I'm afraid! One of the light blue-greys, B55 from memory, was replaced by a light khaki late in the war due to shortage of blue pigment. Lack of green pigment had caused the abandonment of the pale Western Approaches Green long before that.
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I think you could pick holes in the kit from here to Christmas {-) there seems to be several mistakes / mods in the kit going by other reviews etc, I'm just gonna do mine as it says on the tin, or box in this case %% As long as it's reasonable I'm happy :-))
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As long as it's reasonable I'm happy :-))
That's the ticket Dan - and as long as you're happy, you'll continue to produce reasonable models :-)
Regards,
Ray.
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Got a little done today before doing boring house stuff took over >:-o Fitted front deck & built up rear superstructure. Had to do a bit of sanding to get it to fit the rear deck nice & flush, getting there though :-)) Will add a bit of coaming around the rear deck access to help keep it in place also.
When visiting a museum the other day, I saw this nice example in one of the display cases, took a piccy of her for inspiration :}
Anyway a little more done is better than nowt I always say O0
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Nice to see you back Dan, I have been busy with the Compass Rose, must update my thread. On the Bluebell in the museum I see they have the hedgehog in a different place. Don't she look rusty {:-{ don't think I will go that far.
Chris
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Cheers Chris, that's the trouble with work etc, stops all the fun {:-{ Hadn't noticed the hedgehog placement tbh, no I don't think I'll weather mine either, I'm not all that great at weathering, plus they were all brand new once {-) It's nice to start seeing some shape forming, been a hull for to long !!
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Dan just done an update on my one ( Compass Rose ) Love your views on it. Are you still going with the smoky on yours.
Chris
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Dan I have looked at the Graupner smoke units and not certain how they work as they look to small, can you attach a pic of one. Have sent you a message on my thread.
Chris
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Hi Chris, thanks for the offer of the plans, but I'll leave the decks as is, as I've glued the rear & front down already. The smoke unit works well for the size, only about an inch long & 3/8th dia, so will fit n the funnel no probs :-)) puffs out enough smoke but not belching out if you know what I mean :-) You just wire it up to the motor & it works when the motor goes etc. Basic but does the job.
One "Q" what colour are you painting your decks ? Cheers Dan
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I've got one of those in my first Flower - it works well on calm days. I mounted it inside the funnel surrounded by packed Rockwool to stop it melting the funnel - no problems with it.
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that greeny biscuit colours back {-)
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Hi Chris, thanks for the offer of the plans, but I'll leave the decks as is, as I've glued the rear & front down already. The smoke unit works well for the size, only about an inch long & 3/8th dia, so will fit n the funnel no probs :-)) puffs out enough smoke but not belching out if you know what I mean :-) You just wire it up to the motor & it works when the motor goes etc. Basic but does the job.
One "Q" what colour are you painting your decks ? Cheers Dan
Thanks Dan for the pics, do you have to put some kind of oil in it ? For the colour of the deck I used Humbrol 32 dark grey. Did your deck fit OK ?
Chris
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Hi Chris, yes you get a small pot with it & you squirt ot in with a syringe supplied. Obviously you can buy more once you need it. The front n rear deck fitted fine, rear I glued a bit at a time as it was quite aukward being fairly big. The upper deck fits well apart from a small gap starboard front, which wouldn't be aproblem if glued on, but as removable it will have to stay. Only about 1mm so not horrible etc. Cheers on the paint I'll go the same route :-) keep up the good work Dan.
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Any chance of a link to where you got your smoke unit?
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Any chance of a link to where you got your smoke unit?
This is where I got mine :-))
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Graupner-Smoke-Generator-Kit-6v-2324-/252061129988?hash=item3ab0039d04:g:6QsAAOSwMmBV0yBp
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Thanks :-))
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Thanks :-))
You're most welcome :-)) :-))
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Dan I looked on that site and surprise surprise they don't post to Cyprus >>:-(l as I said it's getting the norm for me. That's why I got one from Australia
I find I now have to think out of the box now. Did you see my up date?.
Chris
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Quick update, ordered the brass stanchions from Keith at :- http://www.modellingtimbers.co.uk/40.html
He only had 3 packs in stock, but sent out what he had & will post others when he gets them in next week. Cracking service from him, they arrived the next day, can't grumble at that :-)) Anyway fitted the bow railings & used some wire from Keith also, you need really good eyes or a magnifying glass to see the holes, neither of which I [size=78%]have [/size] {-) so feeding the wire through was fun to say the least, but looks good once done. Next job give it a coat of paint :} [/size][size=78%] [/size]
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Nice one Dan. :-)) :-)). I won't be going that root , usual thing cost , going to modify what I have.
Chris
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Well my idea didn't work out so I have had to bite the bullet and ordered the stanchions from Keith thank you Dan for the contact.
Chris
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You're welcome Chris :-)) They arn't cheap but very good quality ok2 Nice little order for Keith anyway between us O0
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Little bit of progress, painted bow deck etc, now doing some of the superstructure :-))
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That is coming along great Dan.
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Many thanks :-))
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Bit more progress today, started on the funnel, fitted the smoke generator. Also fitted the frame ribs around the rear inner hull & made the coaming to hold the rear superstructure. Starting to look a bit more like a ship now :embarrassed:
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Good idea on that rear superstructure Dan, I will have to follow you on that :-)) .She's starting to look good :-)) :-))
Chris
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Yeah helps keep t all in place Chris, nice n solid :-)) . Little bit more progress, tested the smoke generator, looks pretty good :embarrassed: Fitted some more railings to the main gun, deffo much better than the plastic rubbish provided O0
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Looking good Dan, now that my stanchions have arrived I can get on a bit more and you are right they are very good. The smoke generator is going well. I must do a bit more update on mine, keep up the good work :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Chris
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Quick update, been busy fitting the bridge & all the little fiddly fittings that goes with it %% Also fitted funnel section, starting to look like a ship now :-)) :-))
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Your scratchbuilding work is making her much finer and crisper Dan. Lovely :-))
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Your scratchbuilding work is making her much finer and crisper Dan. Lovely :-))
Many thanks :embarrassed: Much appreciated :-))
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Looking good :-)) :-)) :-)) it's amazing how much it starts to look like a ship now . Will try and get on with mine now. Did you paint the camouflage by hand. Keep up the good work.
Chris
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Looking good :-)) :-)) :-)) it's amazing how much it starts to look like a ship now . Will try and get on with mine now. Did you paint the camouflage by hand. Keep up the good work.
Chris
Cheers Chris, I'm pleased with the results, No I used a brush {-) {-) for the Camouflage why does it look that rough lol %% %%
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On the contrary my dear Watson it looks splendid. O0
I am still thinking about doing mine in this way, but stll can't make my mind up which way to go with it. %% .
Chris
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Cheers Chris, I'm pleased with the results, No I used a brush {-) {-) for the Camouflage why does it look that rough lol %% %%
If that's what you call rough Dan, then I desire to see your finest painting. I expect that this is better than the crew could do swinging from rope seats.
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I am building the LE' Mave a Flower in Irish service so much easier for detail as the knowledge base for Irish Naval Service vessels is quite low even among the Irish. I re armed with guns from: http://www.coastalcraftmodelsuk.com/accessories.php?page=1 rather nice kits in themselves and not too expensive.
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Hi Dan , not heard from you for awhile, hope you are well. How's the boat building going, any more updates.
Chris
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I am building the LE' Mave a Flower in Irish service so much easier for detail as the knowledge base for Irish Naval Service vessels is quite low even among the Irish. I re armed with guns from: http://www.coastalcraftmodelsuk.com/accessories.php?page=1 (http://www.coastalcraftmodelsuk.com/accessories.php?page=1) rather nice kits in themselves and not too expensive.
Thanks for the link :-)) looks like some nice stuff.
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Hi Dan , not heard from you for awhile, hope you are well. How's the boat building going, any more updates.
Chris
Hi Chris, no not done any since Christmas, having a break :embarrassed: I've been building a 1/48th C47 in Ruskin Airlines livery, It was an old tv series in the 80's called Airline with Roy Marsden . Fancied a change Lol Hope your's is coming along ok. All the best Dan
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Looking really good. Well done !
Quick question on the Graupner 6V smoke unit. How long does it smoke for from the initial oil distillate fill ?
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Hi sorry i cant remember as long time since i last used the one in my Calypso. Several.mins i think. Thanks for the comments btw :-)
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Hi Dan . Not heard from you for a long time, are you still doing Bluebell, miss your threads on her, how's the C47 I used to like that airline series as well. Been trying to do more on mine, come back mate need to see where your at. :((
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Hi Chris, yes I'm still here :-) Not done any to the Bluebell for a while, needed a break !! Been doing a few aircraft for a change :-) Finished the C47 & built another, now finishing off a Phantom, & will then resume Bluebell. Found a link that the Calypso will be restored , look in full scale ship section, great news !!!! hope yours is coming along nicely. All the best Dan
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Very nice, are they 1/72? I love the old Dakota and its nice to see it in civilian markings for a change :-)) Have you looked at the latest pics of mine ? Have done a bit of work :-) let me know what you think of her now ?
Chris
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Very nice, are they 1/72? I love the old Dakota and its nice to see it in civilian markings for a change :-)) Have you looked at the latest pics of mine ? Have done a bit of work :-) let me know what you think of her now ?
Chris
No 1/48th so a decent size :} Just had a look at yours, pucker work :-)) :-)) just finishing up this Phantom & I'll get back on her :embarrassed: