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Title: I will never understand women!
Post by: Brian60 on October 17, 2015, 10:17:18 am
I've been married for 35 years and still can't understand them.

Five years ago I had to buy a wardrobe for our guest bedroom. Immediately all of my clothing was moved into it so that wifey could expand her clothing apparel. Now it;s not really a hardship walking down to the other bedroom every morning it's something I have accepted.

Two years ago I had to buy another wardrobe to go in our hobby room as her clothing had overgrown the wardrobe and two sets of chests of drawers in our bedroom.

During the night we were woken by a loud cracking noise, on investigation the clothing rail in the wardrobe  had collapsed and not for the first time! So this morning I set about fixing it, replacing the timber rail with aluminium pole of 35mm diameter.

I made up two new brackets to support the ends and as I was drilling and screwing them to the inside I happened to remark as to why she had FIVE shoeboxes of the same shoes in there- MISTAKE!

"They are NOT the same, they are different colours of the same! To match different clothing. Anyway its the same with your tools. You've got two of those drills"

When I pointed out that I had one of them for 18 years and the second one she bought for me as a surprise xmas present 6 years ago was totally lost on her. It seems in the world of women it doesn't matter if clothing from last year is perfectly wearable, it just has to be replaced with what to us men is more of the same for this year. Then on top of that keep the stuff they will never wear again because it looks 'pretty' Hmmmmmmm..........I'm sure there are many who can relate to this.
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on October 17, 2015, 11:53:03 am
"I've been married for 35 years and still can't understand them."

"I happened to remark as to why she had FIVE shoeboxes of the same shoes in there"

Another man that like me, that has learnt nothing about women in all the years we've been married.
 What has logic got to with Anything!
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: nivapilot on October 17, 2015, 12:24:40 pm
Can I join this club as well please? :embarrassed:
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: jaymac on October 17, 2015, 12:38:27 pm
As is women who ask if their Bums look big in this live longer than men who confirm it
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: merseyferry on October 17, 2015, 01:46:06 pm
reminds me of when i was changeing the food cupbards in the kitchen , helped with a friend. the  units were everywere,so started to take one down to replace with the new ...turning to put old unit down , picking up new one we turned back to  fit to wall ...... there she was painting the wall, were she sprang from i still dont know, >:-o >:-o >:-o ok said i why on earth are you painting the wall when we carnt see it when the units are up.. because  i will know its clean behind there (it was clean to stary with) says she  so now its me my  friend  lots of units and her with a bloomin paint brush  come on woman give us some space.. oh my draws a little tiny one bottom right of bedroom unit
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: martno1fan on October 17, 2015, 02:25:03 pm
Life would be pretty boring if we understood women  O0 ,plus we would have nothing to moan about  {:-{ lol.
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: mickyrubble on October 17, 2015, 02:32:25 pm
Can i join the club too,tiz a well known fact  that misery loves company
 :embarrassed: :D :embarrassed: :D ;D
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: tigertiger on October 17, 2015, 02:33:00 pm
Forgot who said it, but in answer to the comment, I will never understand women, the answer came.


You are not supposed to understand them, its deliberate strategy on their part. And the moment they think you are starting to understand, they change the rules.
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: regiment on October 17, 2015, 03:37:42 pm
been married 63 years this december still do not under stand them   gordon
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: dodes on October 17, 2015, 05:46:43 pm
I am the same never understood the other sex, just agreed with her and paid the bills. Just had a nasty thought, if I did start to understand would that mean I would have to have a sex change operation and spend all day discussing soap programmes and what colour hair dye to use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: DavidHughes on October 17, 2015, 05:49:18 pm
I've always worked on the premise that it's not knowing how they work that makes them so enticing...kind of like complex engineering.
 
...and life would be awfully dull without them....
 
:-)
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: grasshopper on October 17, 2015, 06:13:38 pm
I'm in too....but I do understand them a little better after nearly thirty years, just say yes when you're supposed to and 'if you'd like' when you're not sure.


plus I too have my own 'dressing room' now, I got all my stuff moved into a back bedroom wardrobe along with the ironing board and drying rack. Madam has all of the wardrobes in the rest of the other three bedrooms, she also has most of the under bed storage drawers for 'seasonal clothing'
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: GAZOU on October 17, 2015, 06:39:45 pm
 {:-{

I see that the women in UK are as the European women.
I thought that the men were happier over there
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on October 17, 2015, 07:09:10 pm
I've tried English and French versions, they're all the same...... My OH just got a new cat and I'm under orders not to let it out for at least a week. Then SHE left the door open, out it went and it was MY FAULT %% . Work that one out.......

Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Bob K on October 17, 2015, 07:21:52 pm
I have found that two words can either solve, or at least mitigate, almost all problems in dealing with women.  "Yes Dear."  They are as incomprehensible as the universe itself.

"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory, which states that this has already happened."

Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Nemo on October 17, 2015, 07:25:13 pm
I've just been visiting my old Regiments' website and found a Topic headed 'Once you are married, dying becomes easy'    {-)
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: grendel on October 17, 2015, 07:51:56 pm
I've tried English and French versions, they're all the same...... My OH just got a new cat and I'm under orders not to let it out for at least a week. Then SHE left the door open, out it went and it was MY FAULT %% . Work that one out.......


Thats easy - whatever it is its OUR FAULT
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Nemo on October 17, 2015, 07:57:01 pm
 :-))
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: nivapilot on October 17, 2015, 08:42:02 pm
Contrary to popular belief....I at least have the last word on anything in our house...."Yes dear.) O0
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: derekwarner on October 17, 2015, 08:55:22 pm
Yes....universal scenario throughout the world O0......I have a total of 37 years qualification [17 + 20].... one would have thought the first sentence  <*< was long enough  {-)..... Derek
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Nemo on October 17, 2015, 09:12:48 pm
Engagement RING > Wedding RING > Suffer RING
 :}
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: davidm1945 on October 17, 2015, 09:34:48 pm
No 1 rule for successful marriage :- when having a "disagreement" and you know 100% that you are right and she is wrong - apologise immediately!!
Works for me - 40 years this year.... :-))

Dave.
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on October 18, 2015, 01:39:49 am

Have you noticed it is the same the world over.

We are not supposed to understand them, even if you have read the book, Men are from Mars women are from Venus, you are none the wiser.

Hence why they are always correct when they say you (the bloke) don't understand me and her female companions/mother/daughter say there, there dear, it's OK.

I am only a young fella having started late and have only 44 years experience of wedded bliss.

For the really young guys the attachment may be useful, no guarantees and good luck. {-) {-) {-) {-)

Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: sparkey on October 18, 2015, 08:28:45 am
 ;D Men have been talking about this subject for thousands of years and we still don't understand women,their logic is completely at odds with ours,many years ago I was working away from home and on the Friday night I rang my wife to tell I would be home by 9 o'clock,my wife has always drummed it into me that if your going to be late ring me to stop me worrying,there was a major accident on the north circular road and was stuck in a jam for 2 hours,so after 30mins I rang the wife to tell her I would be late,when I got home she started on me about ringing her to say I was running late as it caused her to worry!,my answer as always YES DEAR.......Ray ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D     
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: dougal99 on October 18, 2015, 09:16:30 am
I'm the boss in my house.








My wife says I can be
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: morley bill 1 on October 18, 2015, 09:59:52 am
You can allways retreat to the boat shed..Bill...
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Capt Podge on October 18, 2015, 04:34:46 pm
How to avoid the woman - Work On Models All Night
 
women -if there's more than one in the household - Work On Models Every Night
 
 
Took me a while to work those acronyms out 'cause I was being nagged at the time.  >:-o
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Nemo on October 18, 2015, 06:39:31 pm
When everybody on earth was dead and waiting to enter Paradise, God appeared and said, "I want the men to make two lines. One line for the men who were true heads of their household and the other line for the men who were dominated by their women. I want all the women to report to St Peter."

Soon, the women were gone and there were two lines of men. The line of the men who were dominated by their wives was 100 miles long, and in the line of men who truly were heads of their household, there was only one man.

God said, "You men should be ashamed of yourselves. I created you to be the head of your household. You have been disobedient and not fulfilled your purpose. I told you to be the spiritual leader in your family. Of all of you, only one obeyed. Learn from him. Tell them, my son, how did you manage to be the only one in this line?"

The man replied, "I don't know, my wife told me to stand here" 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Nemo on October 18, 2015, 06:42:10 pm
How to avoid the woman - Work On Models All Night
women -if there's more than one in the household - Work On Models Every Night
Took me a while to work those acronyms out 'cause I was being nagged at the time.  >:-o 
Regards,Ray.

 {-) {-) Brilliant, the complete remedy!
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Fastfaz on October 18, 2015, 09:31:47 pm
   Paddy is walking down a beach in Southern Ireland mind wandering in no particular direction when he kicks a bottle sticking up from the tide line woosh! out comes a huge Genie who say's thank you for releasing me I have been trapped for a thousand years and as you have been the one to set me free I can grant you 1 wish but 1 wish only please tell me your wish.
   Paddy thinks about it for quite a while then say's all my family and friends now live in America and I cannot visit them as I am scared of flying and sailing on boats so I would like you to build me a bridge from Ireland to America.
   The Genie replies hold on Paddy that is a very big ask even for me I need you to come up with an easier wish that I can give you.
   Again Paddy thinks long and hard saying Okay then I want the ability  to understand how women's logic and how they think.
   Genie replies okay how many traffic lanes do you want on the bridge?
        And that is the case for the defence my Lord!
            Cheers,
                Faz. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
   
     
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: canabus on October 21, 2015, 12:53:06 am
Wife Tax !!!!
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: mook on October 31, 2015, 04:24:16 pm
As a woman all I can say is our logic makes sense to us, it is men who can't be understood  %%

We need all these clothes as we can't wear the same outfit to any event that some one who may have been at a previous event would know it was the same out fit. 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Fastfaz on October 31, 2015, 05:44:47 pm
  Who pays the bills? I have no problem with equality whatsoever if its 50%/50% i.e. sharing the load. But logic I am not going there as it would probably close down the forum with responses and thats without going down the women driver's route!
     Waiting abuse.
          Faz. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: mook on November 02, 2015, 04:36:00 pm
Ok I'll respond, always split bills 50/50 men and women will never understand each other we are wired differently :-)
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Plastic - RIP on November 02, 2015, 06:19:19 pm
Wired differently?
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Bob K on November 02, 2015, 06:37:01 pm
Let us not forget that in Creation Man was merely the initial prototype.  Woman was created a day later with all the advantages of advanced development processes - more attractive styling, unfathomable cunning, and the learned ability of doe eyed 'who, me?' to be able to wrap men round their little finger from the age of three.

Men might apply logic to consider all the facts then project likely scenarios.  Women work back from what they want and re-present their selection of facts to justify their aims. 
Guys, we can't win, it's like Neanderthals taking on Homo Sapiens at Chess.

"We're Doomed, Mr Mannering !!!" 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: sparkey on November 02, 2015, 06:41:06 pm
 :-)) I was going to put my halfpenny worth on this subject,but the wife is looking over my shoulder so cowardice being the better part of valour I am keeping stum,safer that way......Ray {-) {-) {-) {-)       
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Capt Podge on November 02, 2015, 06:45:01 pm
We should also bear in mind that Women have been campaigning for many, many years, for equal rights - they are making steady progress in that direction.  O0
 
In fact, they've been so successful that they can now retire at the same age as men.  {-) {-) {-)
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: mook on November 03, 2015, 06:36:26 pm
So true not one of our best moves :((
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: ballastanksian on November 03, 2015, 08:50:06 pm
No way on earth was the government going to reduce the mens retirement age!

Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Capt Podge on November 04, 2015, 10:34:50 pm
So true not one of our best moves :((

Well, at least you're honest.  :-)
 
I've often wondered what it would be like if the Government consisted of mainly women - not the type that we have currently, but more of the housewife type.
At least the majority know how to run a budget.  O0
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Capt Podge on November 04, 2015, 10:39:06 pm
No way on earth was the government going to reduce the mens retirement age!



That's why I took early retirement - I wanted some leisure time back, for all the years of graft and paying into the system. :-))
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: mook on November 05, 2015, 05:51:23 pm
When I started work my retirement age was 60 now it's 66 what it will be by the time I reach 66 is anyone's guess. Having said that when I was recently made redundant a colleague told me to enjoy my retirement cheeky  >>:-(
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: ballastanksian on November 05, 2015, 10:16:04 pm
Cor, he's got some nerve <*< Seriously though, I do wonder when I will be allowed to retire. I expect the retirement age will be 72, so another 32.5 years to go :((

I agree with you Captain, you pay all yoiur taxes and stamp etc (National inurance contributions) so you should be able to claim back your pension. Its our money after all.
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Capt Podge on November 06, 2015, 11:16:44 pm
Here's some food for thought:-
 
I left school as a 15yr old and started work straight away. Even with meagre wages (£5 per week) we still had to "pay into the pot" for retirement.
 
Now then, would I be right in saying that I had a verbal agreement with the Government to the effect that I would be obliged to work from age 15 until retirement at age 65 ?
 
That being the case, despite my taking early retirement, I still can't claim my state pension until I attain state pensionable age - and that has been changed to 66 - I certainly do not recall giving my consent to this, either verbal or written.
 
So now, the question has to be - is Her Majesty's Government in breach of contract ?
 
.....that should solicit some feedback. :-))
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: chas on November 06, 2015, 11:22:16 pm
Simple answer. No. They're the government, and they can do what the xxxx they like with contracts. Ask any nurse, civil servant, etc etc.
Bxxxxxxs
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Capt Podge on November 06, 2015, 11:30:44 pm
Just need to add a little bit more - a verbal contract is just as binding as a written one, or so I'm lead to believe. O0
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 07, 2015, 12:06:14 am
Quite right Ray, you had a deal and the Government hasn't honoured it. If it was a private company you could sue but as it is the Government then hard luck but that is politics for you. Think yourself lucky that you have lost only one year, others have fared very much worse.

Personally I have been very lucky in that being born in 1948 I did get my state pension at 65. I spent most of my career in local government which has a final salary pension scheme. I was given early retirement on the grounds of redundancy at the age of 58 and given added years compensation plus a redundancy payment which added up to a decent lump sum and pension. They aren't so generous these days. But I don't feel guilty as a bargain was struck way back when I started work and I got my entitlement under that bargain. If the people responsible for the system have b*****d it up in the meantime then that isn't my fault. It wasn't my intention to stop working for my employers but their decision to remove my job.  As it happens, I have since found part time work by exploiting my hobby so all in all things have turned out quite well financially. But it was luck really. Just a case of being in the right place at the right time and getting off my backside to exploit my skills.

I get a winter fuel allowance which strictly I don't need but under the law as its stands I am entitled to it so I won't give it back although I might donate some to charity. If the law is changed to make me ineligible then I won't complain as that would be fair enough but I don't make the laws.

Pensioners are to some extent a protected species at the moment and generally have done well under the current general economic cutbacks and some people think that is unfair. However I can look back to many years when working in the public sector meant that you were a lot worse off than those in the private sector but people conveniently overlook that these days. At one point my Wife was reduced to cleaning school toilets to keep us afloat financially and it was only in the latter years of my career that we achieved a relatively comfortable standard of living so I have no qualms in accepting my pension payments.

People like to say that 'Baby Boomers' have had it easy and have compromised the aspirations of the younger generation. But they don't seem to realise that it was tough for us too with mortgage rates approaching double figures and taking all of one salary to meet. In our first house I made most of the furniture myself and my Wife made many of her clothes, something which would seem unbelievable today. We didn't even have a TV for the first couple of years and then it was black and white! No iPhones in those days.

One real problem today is that the housing market is totally screwed up with property being regarded as primarily an investment (a la buy to let) as opposed to being somewhere to live. But then mortgage rates are only a fraction of what we had to pay back in the 70s.

Each generation has their cross to bear but life goes on!

Colin

Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Capt Podge on November 07, 2015, 12:51:04 am
A very well worded response Colin, thanks for that. :-))
 
A number of times of late I have thought about chasing this one up however, it is extremely doubtful that any Legal Beagle would take such a thing on (a lot would depend upon who's in whose pocket or perhaps which school tie they wear)- just think of the ramifications if such a case was fought and won though  :o .
 
Self-criticism time. What on earth has this to do with understanding women  :((
 
Time for bed me thinks...
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: derekwarner on November 07, 2015, 01:15:38 am
What on earth has this to do with understanding women?   ...well you had the Iron Lady, <*< & we had the Carrot Top  :embarrassed:

Both were purported to be women  {-)..... Derek
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on November 07, 2015, 03:50:30 am
Just need to add a little bit more - a verbal contract is just as binding as a written one, or so I'm lead to believe. O0
 
Regards,
 
Ray.

That it is.

However you had input into the age changes, namely by exercising your right to vote.
Therefore, verdict in favour of the defence AKA government
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Bob K on November 07, 2015, 08:42:44 am

People like to say that 'Baby Boomers' have had it easy and have compromised the aspirations of the younger generation. But they don't seem to realise that it was tough for us too with mortgage rates approaching double figures and taking all of one salary to meet. In our first house I made most of the furniture myself and my Wife made many of her clothes, something which would seem unbelievable today. We didn't even have a TV for the first couple of years and then it was black and white! No iPhones in those days.

Colin

Eloquently put Colin.  Largely mirrors my experience and thoughts, being born in '46 when average male life expectancy was not that much beyond retirement age so 65 made economic sense back then.  Mortgage rates did go over 10% under the Wilson regime but high inflation did at least bring down repayment proportion of income over time.
When my wife and I moved into our first house, with just a bed a cooker and a few bits of second hand furniture, the mortgage took the majority of our income.  Making furniture.  No TV for years.  All as familiar as me having to put in 50 to 60 hour weeks when the babies arrived.

Did it help me understand women?  Not really but at least adversity shared is like magnets, learning to keep like poles together and limit dissimilar pole conflicts.

Bob K
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 07, 2015, 10:03:33 am
 We do indeed to be going off topic but perhaps into a more interesting area than recirculating old jokes.
It is very easy to play the ‘I had it tough in my day’ card which is what I have done above although it probably doesn’t cut much ice with the younger generation who are concerned about their current problems rather than on ancient history.
But behind all the tit for tat arguments there is a very real major problem. People are living longer but not necessarily well. Medical science has yet to have much success in halting the ageing process itself. Not so many years ago I wouldn’t see a doctor from one year to the next. Now I have two lots of eyedrops for glaucoma, pills for blood pressure and an arthritis treatment and yesterday I had a very expensive NHS hearing aid replaced because the old one developed a fault. I am also scheduled to have an MRI scan to try and identify the arthritis damage which will probably result in further treatment. This all costs a fortune although I paid for two cararact ops myself. I am hardly alone and so far, unlike others on here have not developed a major trauma such as cancer although I know many who have. Somehow all this has to be paid for and the current setup is no longer fit for purpose.
The idea of a standard retirement date after which we retire to comfy arm chairs or go off on world cruises depending on our means is no longer viable. Personally I don’t like the idea and think it makes more sense to wind down to match your declining energy levels either in your current employment or by finding something new. Having part time work commitments makes you feel useful, brings in extra cash and gets you out of bed in the morning and still leaves you with plenty of leisure. However it is easier said than done in many cases. I am able to write and do computer work which is not physically demanding but still brings in a decent amount of supplementary income. So instead of spending my retirement time precariously up a ladder attempting to clean out the gutter I can do a bit of work and pay somebody else to do the job at no risk to myself – result all round. It’s not so easy for those whose careers have been spent in physically demanding work and who may no longer have the strength to continue with this after their sixties. Their skills may be less transferable although it is usually possible to find something that will bring in part time income with a bit of imagination.

I think it is inevitable that older people will have to work longer but on a more flexible basis and perhaps doing things that they enjoy rather than what they have to do to generate a full time income. Many hobbies can be developed in this way.
Colin
 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Capt Podge on November 07, 2015, 10:29:13 am
Just remembered something else....
 
While considering retirement I asked for a pensions forecast which was duly received and in a timely manner. Good so far....but, wait a minute. The goalposts were also moved in the opposite direction >>:-( . That is to say, any contributions made BEFORE the age of 19yrs will not be considered when calculating your qualifying years for the full state pension !
 
I still qualify, but all this manipulation of OUR MONEY, just gets under my skin.
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: grendel on November 07, 2015, 12:17:39 pm
I was lucky, I was made redundant at 51, because of being a member of the electrical industry pension I was entitled to my pension, on top of that the lump sum payout from the redundancy plus the lump sum from the pension, all meant I could pay off the mortgage. so mortgage free and a pension of £9000 a year - I still had to get a new job, but I have no responsibilities or stress now, and its strictly 9-5.
it should mean when I reach state pension age, I will be able to retire with a reasonable degree of comfort.
Grendel
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 18, 2015, 02:54:00 am
A little more enlightenment on the subject.


 :o :o :o Don't get it wrong

Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 18, 2015, 12:26:04 pm

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Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Norseman on December 18, 2015, 03:59:59 pm
It baffles me why men complain they don't understand women. If I woke up one morning and found I understood my wife then I would expect to be spoon fed breakfast. In that state of mind they'd never risk taking my straps off.


Dave
Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: essex2visuvesi on December 18, 2015, 04:52:54 pm
It baffles me why men complain they don't understand women. If I woke up one morning and found I understood my wife then I would expect to be spoon fed breakfast. In that state of mind they'd never risk taking my straps off.


Dave

I agree... Makes life more interesting 😊
Title: Re: I will never understand women!(more enlightenment)
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on December 19, 2015, 07:30:58 am

More enlightenment to help you understand them  O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0


Title: Re: I will never understand women!
Post by: Nemo on December 19, 2015, 03:47:17 pm
 O0