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Title: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Big Ada on December 01, 2015, 05:38:25 pm
Surely I was not the only one who watched this Documentary on TV?.
When they showed the clip of the 1st one take off on its maiden flight I had Goosebumps all up my back and the hair on my neck stood up. You should still be able to see it on Catch up.

Len.
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: adamD98 on December 01, 2015, 05:46:08 pm
I've recorded it. Really looking forward to watching it, I'm a fan of Guy Martin and his many adventures. Plus, the Vulcan...well, that speaks for itself really!
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Crossie on December 01, 2015, 06:24:17 pm



 I didn't see this because I don't have a TV, but it must be an unusual person that fails to be impressed by the Vulcan. Working on it was sometimes 'awkward', when static it was imposing, when taking off, especially as it used to do when on a QRA alert back in the 1960s, or during a TACEVAL, it was simply awesome. Will always remember how one could feel everything and oneself shake as it rotated and roared upwards trailing 4 great clouds of brown smoke!
                                                                  Trevor
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: inertia on December 01, 2015, 06:55:55 pm
I was present at an air display at RAF Waddington sometime in the 60's when six of them did a squadron scramble...or did they call it a stream takeoff? That's 24 Olympus engines, all on full power, pointing straight back at the runway. Nothing that even Jim Marshall could have contrived would have made that much noise!
My Mum loved it, bless her.
We were at Duxford last year and saw 558's display. The climb-out at about 60° at the end of the display was so thunderous that I shouted a very loud two-word expletive - and not a soul seemed to have heard it.
As the man says, awesome.
DM
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: BFSMP on December 01, 2015, 07:04:53 pm
It was a wonderful programme. Guy Martin was his usual self.

And amazing to realise that some of this was filmed just two weeks before his monumental at the Dundrod circuit on August 6th apparently though, some of the filming was shot after he discharged himself from hospital just days after the crash when he went back to work saying he was bored of just lying around all day.

And they still let him loose on the controls of a 70 odd ton Vulcan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxdm0_urUjw

what a man.

Jim
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Howard Q on December 01, 2015, 07:05:26 pm
Hi.
 I recorded and and watched the Guy Martin with the Vulcan, the Aircraft never fails to impress, Guy was the ideal person to present the show as he is genuinely interested if not over awed by the skills and dedication provided by the ground team also the men who fly theses wonderful British Aircraft.
I had the privilage of watching the Vulcan flying over Douglas Bay in the Isle of Man a number of years ago in a display that makes the hair on the back of your neck stand on end, the sound of the engines when it went into a steep climb is something I will never forget, I still play the video that I took on that day.
So sad she has to be retired, but at least it and others will be able to be viewed at various sites for years to come.
Howard Q.
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: mrturbo553 on December 01, 2015, 07:22:46 pm
http://youtu.be/rS7uEF1lcyA (http://youtu.be/rS7uEF1lcyA)
 
Enjoy  :-))
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: adamD98 on December 01, 2015, 07:38:46 pm
http://youtu.be/rS7uEF1lcyA (http://youtu.be/rS7uEF1lcyA)
 
Enjoy  :-))

 Great link/vid Aid  :-))
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: regiment on December 01, 2015, 07:47:20 pm
I was stationed at raf Waddington in the 60s  when one took off loverly  when two the married qrts  used to shake but boy could the vulcan  climb when on qra

 
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: ballastanksian on December 01, 2015, 07:50:36 pm
A flying work of art. Better even than the Italians or French can do in this case with a military aircraft.

Thanks for sharing:O)
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Plastic - RIP on December 01, 2015, 07:53:51 pm
It's good to get close to the Vulcan... :-))
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: DavieTait on December 01, 2015, 08:07:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeL3LhrmeME (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeL3LhrmeME)

^^ a HUGE jet powered RC model XH558 Vulcan !!!
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 01, 2015, 08:33:02 pm
Great programme but so sad never to be in the air again..
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Peter Fitness on December 01, 2015, 09:19:10 pm
I've recorded the programme and am looking forward to seeing it. I always enjoy Guy Martin's shows, he is so passionate about his subjects.


Peter.
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: roycv on December 02, 2015, 09:17:39 am
Hi all, feeling my years as I was trained on radar that was used in the Vulcan I only aspired to Canberras myself.  Got talking to a slightly older friend and found out he used to work on NBS (Navigation and bombing system) radar which was the heart of the electronics in the Vulcan.  You needed a small crane to get the equipment out for inspection.
I must say I am surprised the RAF has not tahen the Vulcan into the Memorial flight as she was/is an Icon in her own right and followed on from the role of the Lancaster.  Also the Vulcan could evade most fighters when at high altitude as well, so you would not need the jet equivalent of the Spitfire and Hurricane.

( I still think the Meteor NF14 was quite a machine).

On the other hand I did fancy being a pilot in V bombers and it was not until recently I read a book, a slightly fictionalised account of experiences doing just that, that I realised what a lucky escape I had.  (I got through the RAF testing procedure but was told there were no vacancies!)
regards Roy
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on December 02, 2015, 11:58:05 am
It's just flown down the Mersey heading NW - I thought it was now grounded?

LB
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Crossie on December 02, 2015, 12:15:24 pm
Hi all, feeling my years as I was trained on radar that was used in the Vulcan I only aspired to Canberras myself.  Got talking to a slightly older friend and found out he used to work on NBS (Navigation and bombing system) radar which was the heart of the electronics in the Vulcan.  You needed a small crane to get the equipment out for inspection.
I must say I am surprised the RAF has not tahen the Vulcan into the Memorial flight as she was/is an Icon in her own right and followed on from the role of the Lancaster.  Also the Vulcan could evade most fighters when at high altitude as well, so you would not need the jet equivalent of the Spitfire and Hurricane.

( I still think the Meteor NF14 was quite a machine).

On the other hand I did fancy being a pilot in V bombers and it was not until recently I read a book, a slightly fictionalised account of experiences doing just that, that I realised what a lucky escape I had.  (I got through the RAF testing procedure but was told there were no vacancies!)
regards Roy


 Even luckier escape not to have been a rear seat occupant in the Vulcan if things went curly with the aeroplane --- you were supposed to climb down the lowered nose leg and parachute to safety {:-{
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on December 02, 2015, 12:23:20 pm
I seem to remember one of the early Victors had landing gear failure and the poor sod in the compartment underneath could not get out.... it was case a case of I'm sorry old chap there's nothing that can be done about it, so cheerio and all the best!

LB
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 02, 2015, 02:10:53 pm
It's just flown down the Mersey heading NW - I thought it was now grounded?

LB

Seriously, Did you get a picture ?. 
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: JayDee on December 02, 2015, 02:47:43 pm
Hello,

I saw a Vulcan flying North, on the East side of the M5, over the Cotswolds, near Stroud, in early October.
Flying very low, 6 or 7 hundred feet, gear up.
I too thought it was grounded !!.

John.   ok2
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: mrturbo553 on December 02, 2015, 02:51:00 pm
Hello,

I saw a Vulcan flying North, on the East side of the M5, over the Cotswolds, near Stroud, in early October.
Flying very low, 6 or 7 hundred feet, gear up.
I too thought it was grounded !!.

John.   ok2


End of October it reads
http://www.vulcantothesky.org (http://www.vulcantothesky.org)
Aid
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: JayDee on December 02, 2015, 03:04:56 pm
Hello,

Just checked the dates, it was the afternoon of the 10th of October.
The plane was flying North, about a mile east of the M5.
Lots of other folk there saw it too.

John.   :-))
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: imsinking on December 02, 2015, 03:14:21 pm
It's just flown down the Mersey heading NW - I thought it was now grounded?

LB
I think that was a VC10 tanker , saw it from New Brighton . . .
Had the high tailplane & in grey , another fine aircraft the political NASTIES saw the end of . . .
Bill
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: shad3925 on December 02, 2015, 03:17:58 pm
My first posting (early 1960's) in the RAF as an aircraft instrument fitter was to RAF Scampton 617 Sqdn (Dambusters).
The Vulcans were all white then and changed to camouflaged when the cold war was about to start.
I had five very happy years on the squadron and enjoyed quite a few visits with them to foreign parts where they gave flying displays.
I was one of the few ground crew who had the opportunity to fly in a Vulcan, we flew to a Gardermoen in Norway for a display.
Happy days
Reg
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: JayDee on December 02, 2015, 03:28:01 pm
Hello,
About 35 years ago, I made a scale model Slope Soarer of the Vulcan.
Four feet wingspan, full radio control of Flaps and ailerons.
As a plane to fly it was terrific, it would fly in a full Gale, or skim along the heather in next to no Wind !!.
When I started building boats, it was sold to a model Shop in Manchester.
Will look for some photos.

John.
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 02, 2015, 03:47:53 pm
Hello,
About 35 years ago, I made a scale model Slope Soarer of the Vulcan.
Four feet wingspan, full radio control of Flaps and ailerons.
As a plane to fly it was terrific, it would fly in a full Gale, or skim along the heather in next to no Wind !!.
When I started building boats, it was sold to a model Shop in Manchester.
Will look for some photos.

John.

I started to build one many years ago when I was trying !! to fly planes, the wing frame is built and in the attic somewhere, still have the plans ..:-)
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Netleyned on December 02, 2015, 04:16:43 pm
Grey with four engines and a HighTail
Globemaster methinks.


Ned
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Big Ada on December 02, 2015, 04:18:06 pm
Thanks for all your memories.
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on December 02, 2015, 05:20:50 pm
Grey with four engines and a HighTail
Globemaster methinks.


Ned

Could have been I suppose, I only had a second or two as passed between the roof tops, it took me off guard so no pics.

LB
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: imsinking on December 02, 2015, 07:25:27 pm
Could have been I suppose, I only had a second or two as passed between the roof tops, it took me off guard so no pics.

LB


Hmm, set me wondering as I only saw it late , I was derubbishing the lake at the time . . . almost certain there were no engine pods on the wings and it was a low wing profile , it was left banking (going to Valley ?) so never got a good look , I think there's been maneuvers going on the past three days , Chinooks and jolly greens have been clattering overhead . . .
Bill 
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Peter Fitness on December 02, 2015, 10:19:04 pm
The Vulcan, VC10 and C17 Globemaster are very different looking aircraft, as most people would know. The distinctive shape of the Vulcan's delta wing is instantly recognisable, while the VC10 has its 4 engines mounted in pods of two at the rear of each side of the aircraft. The C17 has its 4 engines more conventionally mounted under the wings, and has winglets on each wing tip. The RAAF flies C17s, which occasionally make visits to nearby Ballina airport, presumably on training missions.


In my opinion they are all impressive aircraft, particularly the Vulcan which had a wing shape unique in heavy aircraft. As far as I am aware, it's the only heavy bomber with a delta wing. The VC10 was used by BOAC on its services to Australia back in the 70s, and I always admired its clean lines with the rear mounted engines. When my young sister and her English husband moved to Australia in 1974, they flew in a BOAC VC10. The C17 looks a very purposeful and rugged aircraft, and should have a long service life.



Peter.
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: davidm1945 on December 02, 2015, 11:06:03 pm
I think that was a VC10 tanker , saw it from New Brighton . . .
Had the high tailplane & in grey , another fine aircraft the political NASTIES saw the end of . . .
Bill

There have been no VC10s flying for at least 2 years...
Can't disagree with the second point though!

Dave.
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: imsinking on December 03, 2015, 12:01:09 am
Ah well, wishful thinking on my part ? ?
This Vulcan is being stood down , not because it's not airworthy, but because no companies now have the expertise to carry out the necessary checks . . . .
I liked the highspeed taxi run they did in the other Vulcan , that must have been an experience .
Bill
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Perkasaman2 on December 03, 2015, 12:51:22 am
The sound of a Vulcan taking off is never forgotten.  :o
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: BrianB6 on December 03, 2015, 02:40:09 am
My best memory is being at Farnborough and watching the first Concorde flight.   The cheers were deafening as was the sound of the Harriers taking off simultaneously on the other side of the field.
Shook like a jelly.
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: FsASTSyd1 on December 03, 2015, 06:45:22 am
Perkasaman :The sound of a Vulcan taking off is never forgotten - And a tactical take off by four or in one case even more numbs the brain as well being impossible to forget
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: david48 on December 03, 2015, 08:51:11 am
I used to live just of the end of the runway near RAF Finingley ,you are not wrong a noise never to be forgot or felt
David
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 03, 2015, 09:41:52 am
 
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/guy-martin-last-flight-of-the-vulcan-bomber
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: roycv on December 03, 2015, 10:15:46 am
Hi all, talking of noise and deltas, some may remember the Gloster Javelin fighter.  If you were nearby the two engines would rev up, the noise got really loud and you could feel your lungs being vibrated and then as the revs increased the engine noise would go ultra sonic and you could hold a normal conversation just a few yards away!
I think the Javelin looked great but failed the 'if it looks right it is right' test.
regards Roy
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: regiment on December 03, 2015, 02:33:36 pm
taking about the javelin I was in married qrts at raf inworth 1952 the jav came over the married qrts broke windows it went through the sound barrier before landing at staverting down the road mind you it was a wimpy mq brand new    gordon
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Netleyned on December 03, 2015, 03:24:55 pm
Think the old memory is playing tricks Gordon.
The Javelin didn't enter service until 1956.
I worked on the other offering that the RAF didn't
want, the DeHavilland Sea Venom formerly DH110.
They made a fine sound leaving the steam catapult
on Victorious and Eagle when I was aboard.


Ned
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: roycv on December 03, 2015, 03:56:18 pm
Come to think of it not many aircraft could go through the sound barrier in 1952.  I was just involved in maintenance turn rounds etc on Javelins but nobody spoke that well of them, if there was a hydraulics failure you might as well eject.

However we watched a javelin with hydraulics failure being landied and I understand the pilot had his feet up on the instrument panel to do it! he got a commendation.
We were very happy about that as if he had failed and ploughed into the woods we would have had to go and collect the bits, not a nice job, on one occasion one of my friends found a shoe unfortunately the foot was still inside.  They used to give you a drop of the hard stuff before you went!

We had a Supermarine Swift tucked away in the corner of the hangar as no one knew what to do with it.

I would now and again go to RAF Bruggen and see the Victor bombers, at the time I liked them better than the other V bombers,  Never saw a Valiant though.
We were all Canberras and meatboxes.
I found my certificate for having done a decompression test recently.  This meant you could go on an air test, but I was posted before my chance came up
regards Roy
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: regiment on December 03, 2015, 08:40:28 pm
the first javelin flew November 1951 test flying at staverton  entered raf service 1956 even at 85 I still have a good memory   gordon
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Raymond on December 05, 2015, 03:34:23 pm
I think you mean DeHavilland Sea Vixen Ned  :-)
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Netleyned on December 05, 2015, 03:42:33 pm
OOps.
Worked on Vampires, Venoms and Seahawks earlier.
All in the brain together and the wrong one surfaces :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:


Ned
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Netleyned on December 05, 2015, 03:46:04 pm
the first javelin flew November 1951 test flying at staverton  entered raf service 1956 even at 85 I still have a good memory   gordon


Gordon, I stand corrected Sah!


I recall reading that the Sound Barrier incident was due to the Pilot having snags with his Oxygen Mask.


Ned
Title: Re: Guy Martin and the Vulcan Bomber.
Post by: Grumpy Dave on December 05, 2015, 10:17:16 pm
I was working on a canal boat early 80's at a marina at Poynton (Manchesterish) on a clear bright day, when I heard thunder rolling. After a couple of minutes it didn't stop it was getting louder and I was getting spooked. I climbed out of the engine room just as the sun was blotted out by the Vulcan coming up the hill probably from Woodford.  The noise was incredible, I remember thinking 'If he hadn't got the wheels up he would be knocking chimney pots off' . I had never seen a plane that big before, it was truly awesome. It was awhile before the goosebumps went down.