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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Yachts and Sail => Topic started by: Unsinkable 2 on December 10, 2015, 10:18:38 am

Title: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on December 10, 2015, 10:18:38 am
Alantis.........

I really enjoyed building 'Lena' and learned a few things along the way, some from my mistakes and a lot from the help, advice and threads from this forum (thanks guys). One major thing I learned was that the sails on Lena are far from adequate. They are to scale (from what I could work out from the diagram I built her from) but I imagine that if you scaled up the models weight to full size you would have to fill the full size boat with concrete to match the weight. Luckily I fitted a motor.


My original plan was to have a sailing boat that I could bring back to shore with a motor should I get into difficulty. So now Lena is finished (and working wonderfully with the motor) it's time to start building a sail boat.


After being on this forum for some time I decided that I would like to sail a boat like the 'Robbe Atlantis' but I wanted to make a boat myself and not from a kit. After a lot of forum and Internet searches and questions I decided that I would build a very similar boat. The only major problem that I could see was the keel.


The keel weighs in at 11.5kg on the Atlantis so if I have to make one it has to be from Lead. Which means making a mould and casting one....... Mmmmm. If I can make a keel I can make this boat, SO, less words and more pictures........ Here we go U2s (Alan's) Alantis........
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on December 10, 2015, 10:20:53 am
I love it when a plan comes together  :D


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsxgzvhxzh.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsxgzvhxzh.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on December 10, 2015, 10:21:57 am
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsarydyqwq.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsarydyqwq.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on December 10, 2015, 10:24:33 am
Things started to go mouldy......... O0


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsbrkelopf.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsbrkelopf.jpeg.html)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsu7hdgs5f.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsu7hdgs5f.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on December 10, 2015, 10:27:01 am
If this works it looks like I'm on my way........... O0 


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsctjwa8wh.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsctjwa8wh.jpeg.html)




Wow it worked :-)) .........







Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on December 10, 2015, 10:37:50 am
I decided that as I will be sailing my boat in the sea I can afford to make the keel slightly deeper. I added a couple of cm onto the depth of the keel and made it so that I can add more weight to the bottom of the keel if need be once I start to balance it in the water. More soon....... U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on December 28, 2015, 06:07:50 pm
Well the Christmas holidays are here and I'm full steam ahead :}


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsbwuc36sy.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsbwuc36sy.jpeg.html)

Keel position check

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The rough outline of the unplanked deck

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Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on December 28, 2015, 06:15:00 pm
Rudder with prop cutout


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The motor is fitted to a tight push fit support and can be easily removed if need be. The prop and shaft were test fitted and everything lines up perfectly.


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Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on December 28, 2015, 06:20:24 pm
I don't like planking every day so I had a break and started the rear cabin/wheelhouse?


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All fits well, mmm its starting to look a little like something I want it to look like


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 :}   U2

Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on December 31, 2015, 12:20:52 am
Coming along nicely!  :-))
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: TomHugill on December 31, 2015, 04:46:42 pm
Fantastic! Will be keeping an eye on this build.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on January 01, 2016, 08:01:08 am
Nemo, a lot of this is thanks to you supplying me with info. Much appreciated  :-))


Tom, almost every day I'm building I can't help thinking about the thread 'I like big boats and I cannot lie', it just pops in my head ha ha {-)


I've finished planking one side and all the rear. If all goes well another couple of days should see the hull planked. Then a couple of weeks to sand, fill, sand, fibre glass, sand, fill, smooth and finally paint. In the meantime I am searching for rigging screws and deck fixings. More soon. U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: timg on January 01, 2016, 06:02:19 pm
Hi unsinkable 2

Your doing a great job

Could you please tell me what wood you are using for the planking ?


Thanks
Spud
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: PeachyPM on January 01, 2016, 08:52:09 pm
Proper boat building, very nice! :-))
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on January 02, 2016, 08:19:02 am
Peachy, Spud, thanks it's always nice to receive compliments :}


Spud, the wheelhouse/cabin is made from a plywood base and panels, with edges and work surface made from 'obechi.


The frames of the boat are made from  10mm plywood.


The planks have been cut by me from a sheet of pine. The pine sheet is 18mm thick and is made of pieces glued together by the manufacturer. I cut 2mm strips with my circular saw. If you do this you will have to make sure that you seal the wood with a good resin inside and out once you have finished planking. This stops warping and pine resin leaking out. U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on January 04, 2016, 01:09:13 pm
Unfortunately a bad back has stopped the build for the last and next few days so I just did a little more on the plan. Even though I knew it was going to be big it wasn't until I had finished drawing the sails that I realised how big it actually is! :o


That's a 40cm ruler..... U2


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Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on January 06, 2016, 01:04:52 pm
Managed to make a set of sails


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Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on January 06, 2016, 08:32:35 pm
US2 - Well done!
You might find some more inspiration from this website.  http://www.sparksstudios.com/boatyard/atlantis.htm

I used his overhaul section ( http://www.sparksstudios.com/boatyard/atlantis_overhaul.htm ) to put pencil lines on the sails which transformed them and gave them a more authentic look. I used an HB pencil - not too sharp!

I would try the sails without battens and see how they trim. The supplied battens are apt to become unstuck at the ends and are a nuisance - unless you can think of an improvement.
Bob.

Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on January 06, 2016, 09:15:50 pm
Cheers Bob, once again a very helpful post. I have actually started the lines on the fwd sail but your post gives more detail and direction. It also gives some great photos of other detail and throws up a new question. There is a 'frame' around each mast base, I noticed that there is an extra tube on the fwd mast for the tensioning string but on the rear there are 2? One fwd and one on the left. What does the left one tighten? U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on January 06, 2016, 09:21:10 pm
Did you modify your post whilst I was writing? I didn't see that photo before :o  as for battens I don't know what they are or what they do  :embarrassed:  talk about biting off more than you can chew!) please expand my knowledge!   U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on January 07, 2016, 12:15:25 pm
Cheers Bob, once again a very helpful post. I have actually started the lines on the fwd sail but your post gives more detail and direction. It also gives some great photos of other detail and throws up a new question. There is a 'frame' around each mast base, I noticed that there is an extra tube on the fwd mast for the tensioning string but on the rear there are 2? One fwd and one on the left. What does the left one tighten? U2

U2: The 'frame' around the mast base is known as a 'pin-rail' as used in some ships to locate belaying pins to tie off halyards etc at the base of the mast - actually much better for larger ropes than cleats. Some Atlantis builders find the time to make belaying pins and install them. The tube on the left of the mainmast pin-rail brings the sheet from below decks and up the side of the mainmast to the level of the aft end of the gaff, where it crosses to another eye at the gaff end which guides it to a tying  -off cleat. I hope the photos show this clearly.  The 'tube' at the front of this pinrail takes the sheet to the after end of the boom of the 'third' sail from the bow.
Yes, as an afterthought, I added the photo for you. As for the battens, I suggest you Google 'sail-battens' to tell you what they are for. The thin plastic ones supplied with the Atlantis kit as not very good and if you can do without them so much the better, but as your build is a one-off, I suggest a trial before you decide you really need them.
 
 
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on January 12, 2016, 07:42:08 pm
Nemo, thanks again, I just realised I hadn't replied (I thought I had)


I can now carry on with my 'pin rails' knowing what they are for and what to incorporate into them. Any more photos of small details welcome.......


As for what I've been up to, well, a bit more planking.....


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsobrhrvk6.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsobrhrvk6.jpeg.html)


Before today's effort....


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsejspgcgc.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsejspgcgc.jpeg.html)


And then with masts.......


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsg4xqaw4n.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsg4xqaw4n.jpeg.html)


The masts simply slide onto threaded bars. There will be a nut on each bar so once the mast is on and the rigging is connected the nut can be turned to raise the masts and tension the rigging lines. The threaded bars go through the deck and then through 18mm wooden support plates (see photo above) these plates will be bonded between frames as well as to the underside of the deck. The reason for the strange shape (as apposed to a straight plank from one side to the other) is that I have allowed enough edge landing to be able to incorporate the rigging pin attachment points giving a total thickness of 21mm. That should be enough!
 The threaded bars continue down to the keel where they will be fixed in position after alignment of the masts once the time arrives.       U2


Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on January 26, 2016, 07:18:15 pm
Not the best of photos, but hey, some progress. This was 3 days ago (23rd Jan) the planking is now complete and the hull has been fibreglass coated, then covered with body filler and the sanding process has started.
 I'm 3 days in and one side is just about up to the stage where I have to now primer it to be able to see where I missed......... Then it's back to fill, sand, fill, paint, sand for another couple of days....... You all know it {:-{ ..... Then when that's done I can start the other side........ Aaaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhh :((


Back in a week.......... U2


Oops, nearly forgot the photo.......


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Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on January 26, 2016, 08:30:59 pm
It will all be worth it!  :-))
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on February 06, 2016, 09:45:31 pm
Well I've been very busy :} . I've now built the centre and fwd cabins, found the centre line of the deck and drilled holes for the masts. I've built supports in the bottom of the hull for the rods the masts slide on to. I've cut 3 large access holes in the deck and built walls around them to stop waters spilling in. These walls also double as supports the cabins slide on to. I've dry fitted one fwd servo winch and the rudder servo. Phew! 8)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zps6lynjxbi.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zps6lynjxbi.jpeg.html)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsmqv3ff3n.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsmqv3ff3n.jpeg.html)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpstmomhmq1.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpstmomhmq1.jpeg.html)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsrjt7ghf8.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsrjt7ghf8.jpeg.html)


                                                     U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on February 10, 2016, 08:07:28 pm
A few big steps forward and one step back.........


Fwd, inside the hull all resined, a servo tray made one of the pin rails made and the biggest step of all (after a massive learning curve on another thread!) is that I can now control each of the 4 winch servos from one 6v NiMH battery pack and remotely switch on an ESC powered by a lipo should I need to.


I was hoping to avoid a lipo as I didn't want to keep having to remove it in order to charge it, but, only switching it on if needed means (with any luck) that it may only need the occasional charge after quite a few outings :-)) . The power can be checked by plug in checker. The NiMH can be charged in the model after each outing :}


I have to hold my hand up and say my lack of knowledge on the electrical side lead to some 'schoolboy error questions' thanks to the guys for helping me out (you know who you are) O0 ,


Now, my one step backwards......... After connecting 3 of the four winch servos (I have to order the 4th) and connecting a lipo and getting it all to work I started to wonder how much a 10.63kg servo could actually lift? Well not wanting to blow it up with a 10 kg weight I thought I'd try it with a 3kg weight first......... It blew up >>:-( ....... Actually it slowed down then stopped and now it doesn't work at all.  <:( . I've emailed the seller and asked him to explain and see if a fix is possible as it's probably my fault for trying to over work it (for believing a 10.63kg servo could lift 10kg) we live and learn. Wow if I carry on learning at this rate I'll be the cleverest poor person here.......


I also picked up the deck planks today so I'll be cutting and fitting those soon. Photos at weekend hopefully



Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Klunk on February 10, 2016, 11:12:07 pm
http://www.sailservo.co.uk/techinfo.html
Look here for some good info.
Also why do you need to control all 4 sails independently?
On mine all are controlled by one servo winch! I can add a second to control the genoa sail if reqd but I dont see the point of fitting the genoa yet
Also it pays to buy good servo winches as well.
Mine has a hitec sail winch operating all the sails and  sails in high winds at Mayhem weekend. There are pics of her on the Mayhem pages from the last few years.

P's get a metal geared high torque servo for the rudder. I stripped a futaba 3003 and a ballraced futaba servo finding that out. The rudder has a lot of force against her when sailing in gusty conditions!
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on February 11, 2016, 12:47:38 pm
Hi Klunk, yes the rudder servo fitted Is high torque and metal geared. It was overkill on another project and  has been waiting to find its place.


As for why I want to control all sails independently, I just like the idea, and I like fiddling with all the buttons and dials on my radio. At the click of a switch they will all move together but I can then adjust each sail separately should I want to.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: TomHugill on February 11, 2016, 04:08:25 pm
http://www.sailservo.co.uk/techinfo.html (http://www.sailservo.co.uk/techinfo.html)
Look here for some good info.
Also why do you need to control all 4 sails independently?
On mine all are controlled by one servo winch! I can add a second to control the genoa sail if reqd but I dont see the point of fitting the genoa yet
Also it pays to buy good servo winches as well.
Mine has a hitec sail winch operating all the sails and  sails in high winds at Mayhem weekend. There are pics of her on the Mayhem pages from the last few years.

P's get a metal geared high torque servo for the rudder. I stripped a futaba 3003 and a ballraced futaba servo finding that out. The rudder has a lot of force against her when sailing in gusty conditions!


Do you have the Genoa kit Klunk?
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Netleyned on February 11, 2016, 04:14:49 pm
Think the Genny fit is a tad awkward as a retro fit.
I've met a couple of guys who have got the kit and
given up trying to fit it to an already built yacht.


Ned
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on February 11, 2016, 06:26:03 pm
Tom, I know 'you like big boats and you cannot lie' so I'm glad your keeping an eye on my Alantis ill try and get some more photos up soon.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on February 12, 2016, 01:04:38 pm
I agree, several others have added the genoa and commented that it was not worth the trouble.  O0
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Klunk on February 12, 2016, 01:54:23 pm
I have a 95% complete genny kit with plans.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: TomHugill on February 12, 2016, 06:17:40 pm
I have a 95% complete genny kit with plans.

If you ever decide you don't want it let me know, been after one for ages.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: TomHugill on February 12, 2016, 06:18:35 pm
Tom, I know 'you like big boats and you cannot lie' so I'm glad your keeping an eye on my Alantis ill try and get some more photos up soon.

I've really enjoyed the thread so far, can't wait to see how she ends up.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on February 12, 2016, 10:50:53 pm
I was worried when I read that you had planked one side before doing the other with the risk of the hull warping, but you have brought it off well.

I love seeing planked hulls and tyhe deck looks marvellous with those deck houses.

Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on February 13, 2016, 06:50:09 am
Thanks Ballast.
Yesterday saw a 3 hour battle against the rudder preparation. It has to be fitted at the same time I fix the keel. (The keel HAS to be fixed) before it is fitted it has to be totally finished including paint. The reason for this is because I don't want to spray paint into the small space between the rudder and the keel. (I want to make sure it's covered with paint )


So....... To paint it first I have to resin it and then smooth it. To resin it I had to make sure it was completed with hinges and steering arm and that it was also the correct shape once in position. This meant a number of trial fits. There's me thinking it would only take 15mins.


Today may (hopefully) see the rudder painted ready for a hull and keel get together which may take place tomorrow on Valentine's Day (oh how sweet! :kiss: )


That in turn means that today will also see me making a stand.


Wow it could be hitting the water next week :} .........



Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on February 16, 2016, 09:13:19 pm

So I made a stand and got the keel fitted ........ :}


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsl0eerq13.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsl0eerq13.jpeg.html)


Then just as I was about to start shooting photos the postman arrived with my new servos so I popped them into the servo tray I made earlier.......


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You can see them here, you can also see the supports for the base of the bars that the masts will fit into as well as the rudder servo in position


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Here are the bars temporarily fitted with the nut that will be used to raise the masts to tighten the rigging. It also shows the strong support that the bars are held with. These supports are waterproofed with resin and will bond to the underside of the deck when it's fitted.


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpskaugzjpx.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpskaugzjpx.jpeg.html)




Here is the deck temporarily fitted and you can see the first 'pin rail' (thanks Nemo) it still needs the legs trimming though.




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This photo shows the excellent camouflage effect of the cabins against the background although it should show side view with finished rudder. :embarrassed:


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More camouflage but at least you get an idea of two of the sails now.......


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Ah that's a bit better, I just need to make a channel for my brass tube which sits on the underside of the deck. The tube is for the rear sail tension line and comes up through the deck at the rear flagpole holder


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpse8l0kpvr.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpse8l0kpvr.jpeg.html)


It might be test float time soon :} :} :} ......... U2



Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on February 17, 2016, 07:48:49 pm
U2, congrats on a very fine job. You took on quite a challenge in my opinion and you have more than proved your skills here. It's something I would never have attempted - but I have an Atlantis anyway %%
I look forward eagerly to your first sail video! Very well done. Just don't drop it!  :-))
Bob.

PS. Have you sorted out your rigging screws yet?
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on February 17, 2016, 08:38:38 pm
Hi Bob, I've got some very strong piano wire and I intend to make some hooks from it. I have also got some big split pins and I have designed the shape of the mast support plates (18mm pine) to take these split pins. They look quite nice I think, and they are very strong they will pass through the plates and fold back as well as being fixed with resin. Four for each mast, two at the back and one at the front.


Yesterday I did the final coat of resin over the now fitted keel. Today I gave it a coat of filler so I can get it really smooth for primer and paint before hitting the water for initial level tests :-))


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zps4kq9yknj.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zps4kq9yknj.jpeg.html)


More very soon...... U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on February 17, 2016, 09:49:08 pm
Your deck houses really did blend in nicely with the background! Shes a lovely model though, and the carpentry is first rate. You know someone is enjoying the build when they spend time cutting curves into parts that will be permanently hidden under something.

 :-))
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on February 17, 2016, 10:18:39 pm
U2: I have re-designed my rigging - again - and used these from Cap Maquettes. They were not cheap when you have to buy 10 but they are very well engineered and of course are adjustable. When set up, they have to be just slack enough to hook onto the deck-eyes, thus saving to have to adjust 10 screws each time. I can now set up the whole rig at the lakeside in a matter of minutes and last week I de-rigged in under a minute!.  :-))
I take it there will be no adjustment on your system - or will you use something like  bowsies?
Bob.
 
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on February 18, 2016, 07:00:06 am
Hi Ballast...... I think it was my apprenticeship training that stayed with me and just grew more and more because whether a part is hidden or on view I do like to round all the edges, de burr and smooth off. There is a small section inside the hull where body filler was pushed in when I fitted the keel. I tried to smooth it as much as possible and then cover it with resin. It ended up a slightly lighter colour than the rest of the inside of the boat and even though it will not be seen it still annoys me. (Annoys? Not quite but can't think of a better word) (actually 'niggles' is a better word)


Nemo..... I was actually considering those a few weeks back. I think it was Cornwall models, but after looking at the pics you sent me And seeing you just had small hooks I thought I would try and make some. I also considered the price and for my boat it would be over £50 for the adjustable hooks or 1 euro for the piano wire. I can't justify it! Especially as once initially adjusted I wouldn't need to adjust them again as the system I built into my boat tightens them all with the turn of a single nut.


If you look at the bar the mast sits on you will notice it's threaded. I have a large nut sitting on the deck and when it turns it lifts the masts. The nut will be disguised as something, probably rope. BUT, I haven't dismissed the adjustable hooks totally because 'A' they look fantastic and will give something extra to the boat and 'B' I don't know how successful I will be at making good looking fit for purpose hooks. Maybe I will change them in the future...... Let's see.     U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on February 19, 2016, 09:34:05 pm
After the resin came filler then primer and then the final touches of filler then primer....... Etc..... Eventually it was ready for white paint.......


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zps4rdgkjce.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zps4rdgkjce.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on February 22, 2016, 08:18:36 pm
Not painted yet, I'm waiting for the right time. I connected the rudder servo and fitted the other 2 sails. I couldn't wait so I taped it together and took a photo........ It's getting near now :}


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsn9azjztd.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsn9azjztd.jpeg.html)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zps1ywzxtb0.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zps1ywzxtb0.jpeg.html)






Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on March 20, 2016, 01:20:26 pm
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsuzqkq4cr.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsuzqkq4cr.jpeg.html)


Easy to carry with this handle (despite the weight)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsqxcr6p0p.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsqxcr6p0p.jpeg.html)


Not bad for a first attempt at getting the black lines in the deck. I could have done a little better by folding some card between the ends of the planks as well but I'm happy enough. I also made a life ring (just another nine to make...... Then finish the cabin..... Then..........


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsd4rtrbjt.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsd4rtrbjt.jpeg.html)




Getting closer by the day to that first real outing.........


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpshaeogtnl.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpshaeogtnl.jpeg.html)




U2



Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on March 20, 2016, 01:28:02 pm
Hi U2, 'Niggle' is a good word, in fact, probably the right one for the job.

I like the name plate very much, lots of little details to catch the eye :-)) Lovely build.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on March 25, 2016, 07:31:56 pm
Thanks ballast, I intend to stain the stand and then paint over the name and highlight the details in colour. There's a sail, a mast, a flag, a seagull,  a wave and a crab. %%


I managed a few more bits over the last few days..........


The holes in the bulwarks for the anchor chain and to also let the water out that it collects as it gets soaked by the sea.


 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpswj4v6qjv.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpswj4v6qjv.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on March 25, 2016, 07:42:41 pm
I need to make a winch and get some anchors....... It'll happen eventually.


I got some bracelet connectors from a craft shop, they are small brass screw together things and are great for attaching the sail lines as they just undo when you need to take the sails off. There was a loop on each end which I removed and then I just drilled them big enough to pass a string through. I tied a knot and pulled the not inside the thing. They may be small but they are strong enough to stand a sturdy pull and I think that the sails would break before they would (I'll report back on that one)


Here's the open and closed photos.........
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsuxydn6vs.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsuxydn6vs.jpeg.html)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsp0s8llgj.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsp0s8llgj.jpeg.html)

Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on March 25, 2016, 07:45:56 pm
And finally a photo with the rigging and finished pin rails......


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsbjot0k8h.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsbjot0k8h.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on March 25, 2016, 10:15:19 pm
Bracelet connectors, Hm, useful idea. Lovely work matey, the hull looks very graceful.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on March 25, 2016, 10:27:03 pm
A really good job U2. A fine project well thought out and (almost?) completed.  :-)) :-))
 Looking forward to seeing it get wet!   O0
Bob.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on March 26, 2016, 01:10:09 pm
Whoopee I've managed to sort an electrical problem and all four winch servos now work :} :} :} :}


I decided to join two receiver packs in series giving me 12v. This then runs through the same stand alone BEC as before but with the extra voltage it mustn't now dip below the minimum requirement needed to power everything.


I'm really happy............ :} %% :-))


I just finished the forward cabin, now for the centre cabin and the guard rail then it's trial time :} .



Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: oldflyer2 on March 26, 2016, 10:42:07 pm
I just found this ... very well done indeed. If I may ask, how big is this boat? It looks quite large.

Tom
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on March 27, 2016, 08:05:14 am
Thanks Tom glad you like it :} .


It's just over 1.4 metres long and 35cm at the widest point AND it's nearly ready to go in the water :} ... U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: oldflyer2 on March 27, 2016, 11:26:43 am
That is a very nice size boat for sure. I have a mini12 (just over 1 meter long with a Soling 1 meter rig) that I am redoing and I have just ordered the frames for a J boat.

I look forward to seeing pics of yours on the water.

Tom
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on March 28, 2016, 10:44:18 pm
Well I finished the centre cabin today (well except for varnish, oh, and er nav lights) so that just leaves a few finishing touches and she's ready :} :} :} . No photos today but lots when she's finished :-)) .


I'm looking for a captain, a suitable ships wheel, an electric (non working) winch and a couple of anchors if anyone knows a god source..... Think I'll pop an ad on here..... U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Klunk on March 29, 2016, 06:01:23 pm
Look on ebay for Mcdonalds toys and get a captain Haddock.
A ships wheel, I had mine made by a friend on a lathe,  a boss a small inner  section and a larger outer section then sll drill through and cocktail sticks used to hold it all together.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on March 29, 2016, 09:09:13 pm
Klunk, cocktail sticks, good idea. I have a small ships wheel I don't need so maybe that will do as a centre. If I manage it I'll report back....
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 04, 2016, 08:29:03 pm
Cocktail sticks it was!    Plus a section from an adjustable kitchen unit support and the original wooden ships wheel used as a centre...... Oh it sound bad when I read it back but it's actually pretty good. (Even though I say it myself).  :embarrassed:  Photos tomorrow........






Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 04, 2016, 08:35:57 pm




Today was the 'Alantis' Maiden voyage. I waited for a high tide and a calm sea with a not too windy weather....... She was fantastic, she needs a bit of wind to move her as she weighs in at a few kilos over a standard 'Atlantis' but when the wind did catch her she was off.....

I have a couple of small adjustments to make and after I've got her sorted I'll post a load of photos and try to get a video made......... I'm very happy she sails so well :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :}
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 08:19:03 pm
Nice day for photos today but couldn't get sailing.


Life rings fitted she just needs a flag now.....



(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zps64y9oohi.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zps64y9oohi.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 08:22:58 pm
Here is the wheel I mentioned earlier


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsziinn8qq.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsziinn8qq.jpeg.html)




The rigging hooks are made from piano wire and hook into split pins which are resined at an angle through the deck


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpstvepbc07.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpstvepbc07.jpeg.html)



Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 08:28:44 pm
This shows the hand rail and the pin rails with fitted pins. These pins are a bi product from a job we do at work. They are the broken end of a 'pop' style rivet, (cherry max to be more accurate)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zps9pxsxpmv.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zps9pxsxpmv.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 08:33:29 pm
Optical illusion honest........


The join between the left and right bulwarks looks really bad on this photo, so bad that I just went back to check my boat. Luckily in real life it's fantastic, phew, but I don't know why it looks like that on the photo. :o


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zps7y33tobl.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zps7y33tobl.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 08:35:04 pm
Entrance, centre and fwd cabin


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsloise5jk.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsloise5jk.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 08:40:55 pm
The sunlight highlights every small detail, I didn't realise how bad the rear name sticker looks...... I'll have to order new ones.


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpssidwjk2m.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpssidwjk2m.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 08:54:27 pm
Centre cabin ....... Open for switching on charging or plugging a voltmeter in!


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsvrtcci5e.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsvrtcci5e.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 08:57:12 pm
Then closed again....... When I re fit the cover it pushes over a rubber elastic seal which is lightly vaselined to make it waterproof


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpse6jm8ght.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpse6jm8ght.jpeg.html)


Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 08:59:24 pm
Volt checker


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsjsikr14w.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsjsikr14w.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 09:04:41 pm
Just needs a red ensign now......... Oh and some spreaders :}


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpstykoieii.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpstykoieii.jpeg.html)




U2





Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 09:11:08 pm
I couldn't get the picture to rotate but I said she was a beast....... The stand weighs 1.5kg so that means the boat comes in at a tad over 20kg or 44lbs in old money..... %%


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpspvhp4ejo.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpspvhp4ejo.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 05, 2016, 09:15:32 pm
And finally when I de rig her for transportation I found that by sticking all the hooks to the masts it's far easier and less tanglier (is that a word?) next time I come to set her up. Hope you enjoyed the pics... U2


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zps28xigvi5.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zps28xigvi5.jpeg.html)




Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 09, 2016, 10:43:40 am
Well after the successful maiden voyage (followed by a week in bed with a bad back lifting it in and out the water) just kidding but it is heavy. I have now built a trailer that will allow the boat to be rolled into the sea down a ramp and then back onto the trailer when I have to remove it again.


It's wooden made and then has been covered in resin (like my boat) and has solid rubber tyres. This will stop it trying to float ( I hope ) saying that I can't imagine anything floating with my boat strapped to its back....... Photos shortly...... U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: oldflyer2 on April 09, 2016, 11:39:37 am
Looking very nice indeed and I am looking forward to a video.

Tom
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on April 09, 2016, 01:31:05 pm
U2! It has taken me a few days to catch up with your latest posts but I am completely delighted in your unique ship. When you proposed the idea at first I thought you were taking on a great deal of work without much information, but you have come up trumps, so many congratulations and I can see how proud you are. She looks great!

Tip -  You are right about rigging tangles!  Instead of masking tape(!) I use a piece of Velcro, sewed back-to-back which takes but a second to wrap round and clamp on or off both masts.



Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 09, 2016, 04:26:32 pm
Thanks Nemo, a lot of this build is thanks to your help with dimensions and tips, and now the latest tip about the Velcro is another cracking idea. I'll be looking in my OHs sowing box when she's not looking.


Tom... I'll do my best, maybe a few sailing photos first and then I'll try and find out how to upload a video.


Anyway here's my back saving launch aid......


As you can see it's a 1 wheel 'back to the future' hovering design...... :}


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpswvn5dmhz.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpswvn5dmhz.jpeg.html)


Oh no the games up, you can now see the 2rear wheels..... :embarrassed:
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsuhmtxdkn.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsuhmtxdkn.jpeg.html) U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 11, 2016, 09:56:50 am
Photos on the water as promised  :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :} :}


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/DSCN05861_zpsypx9xyzk.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/DSCN05861_zpsypx9xyzk.jpg.html)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/DSCN05881_zpsbbv3gwft.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/DSCN05881_zpsbbv3gwft.jpg.html)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/DSCN05911_zps5zdfdupz.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/DSCN05911_zps5zdfdupz.jpg.html)


A very happy U2............ :-))
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: oldflyer2 on April 11, 2016, 12:02:02 pm
And so you should be ... A gorgeous sight that is.

Tom
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on April 11, 2016, 02:10:23 pm
A triumph for you U2 - very well done! :-)) I was on the water also! They are lovely, aren't they? O0 
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 11, 2016, 10:06:40 pm
Tom, thank you very much I appreciate you following my build.


Bob, yes they are lovely I just have to learn how to sail her well now. I managed to get her out and back in again without motor (after a fair few attempts) she went a little far over a couple of times and that gave me a few scary moments but I suppose it's part the learning to sail curve. Maybe I'll try with a little less wind until I'm a bit more used to her.


I very much like the blue on your boat and thought about copying it at one point but decided on white in the end.


All I need now is a captain and a red ensign. I have made a Union Jack for the time being because it causes more of a stir living here in France. All good fun  O0


I will try and get a video on here (or at least a link) but don't hold your breath


Thanks to all who have taken the time to read my blog even if you didn't comment.   


And a great big thanks to all those that did....it's not to late.....      U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on April 11, 2016, 10:15:22 pm
Hi U2.

If 'Tanglier' isn't a word then it should become a recognised one!!! What a lovely job you have done. I do like the hidden switching port and just the overall look. I reckon she needs a skipper to add a bit of life unless the jib will bonk him/her on the head?

Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on April 11, 2016, 11:06:32 pm
Yes, find some crew, they bring a ship to life. I have a family on board, including the ships dog and cat - who tries to hide from the dog!
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on April 11, 2016, 11:08:59 pm
Aw bless :-)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 12, 2016, 06:37:34 am
Hi Ballast, yes I'm quite pleased with the switch cover (even if I do say so myself :embarrassed: ) I just wanted something to be able to charge and check batteries and switch it on and off without having to remove the cabin each time and at the same time it had to be waterproof. As for the jib on the head, no it won't, there is enough clearance for a scale size person to stand underneath as it swings.


Nemo, you are quite right it does does add a bit more life. The woman in the white top doesn't half like tea though eh?


I'll fit my flag today and then just a few small adjustments and she's ready to go again :}


It's amazing how many people ask where I bought it. I just say oh I didn't, I just bought some wood cut out all the pieces and glued them together........ I'm sure they don't all believe me........   U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on April 12, 2016, 07:53:29 pm
Don't forget the must have ............  http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000029.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ecornwallmodelboats%2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2fship_fittings%2ehtml&WD=bell&PN=mantua_bells%2ehtml%23a32381#a32381
 :}
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Captain fizz on April 12, 2016, 08:12:01 pm
She does look good U2.
That's a powerful rig, I'm not surprised she dips a rail with the size of that topsail and it looks like it was pretty breezy on the day.


simon
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 13, 2016, 07:53:09 am
Hello Cap'n ...... Yes it was a bit breezy but the thing was that there was a spot just in front of me where the wind didn't seem to reach. Maybe the trees behind me blocked it. But on about 4 or 5 occasions I was trying to bring her in and had to go round again. My motor was not set up that day! It was a good learning curve though.


Nemo......


There she blows.....
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsa9ujzsxk.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsa9ujzsxk.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 13, 2016, 08:05:33 am
Just for information for anyone reading I made all the windows exactly the same by making a jig with blocks of wood. Then I covered it with good quality car wax and glued all the pieces with superglue. There are three different lengths of wood and are all made by putting them into a groove of the said length and sanding flat level with the edge of the jig. One jig for the big window and another for the small squares window.


The portholes are cadmium plated washers and I just drilled 5 small holes in each. For the first one I advise marking out the angles with a protractor for the required number of holes then when you are satisfied use it to drill through and spot the next washer. Use the same washer to spot all the other washers and all your portholes will be the same. :-))


If anyone is interested I'll dig out my jigs and photograph them..... U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on April 13, 2016, 09:11:37 pm
I love to see a goofd jig U2!
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on April 14, 2016, 07:12:38 pm
Yes, I like a nice jig too :-))  I also enjoy sailing my Atlantis and hope U2 don't mind my dropping this one into the pot? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMjnEq6wsIw    :D

 (As is rather obvious - made with Tx in one hand and small camera in the other!) :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Starspider on April 15, 2016, 04:29:55 pm
Very nice Nemo, looks a very nice spot to sail as well.
Colin
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: andrew44 on April 15, 2016, 06:13:03 pm
Just to confirm - was it you sailing on le Bois Joalland, last Sunday ?

I was taking part in the IOM regatta - the blue Topiko FRA O5.

@+

Andrew 44
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on April 15, 2016, 10:12:51 pm
Andrew,  that's interesting, yes it was but I know it as 'lac immaculee'  I just asked my OH and she said it's also called Bois joalland like you said. Weather permitting I'll be there again Sunday around 2pm.


Will you be there again or was it just a visit for the race? I assume by the 44 in your forum name that you live here. If you prefer you can click on my link and email me.     Hope to see you Sunday U2
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: andrew44 on April 16, 2016, 09:24:15 am
Thanks for your reply. I follow all the sailing forums, and as your ID says 'near Guérande', I thought there can't be other topsail schooners in the vicinity !

I live in Pornichet and am part of the SNOS (Saint Nazaire OmniSports) Voile radiocommandé section. We (up to about 10 boats) sail on Thursday and Sunday afternoons. The standard boats are IOMs. Not the same hobby as yourself, but it's all sailing...

Météo France says éclaircies, wind W by NW 20kph, so Sunday should be good, and not as gusty as last week !

@+

Andrew

Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on May 05, 2016, 07:34:31 pm
Just a couple of nice photos of my Atlantis and wildfowl at my local lake this morning.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Netleyned on May 05, 2016, 08:13:57 pm
 :-)) :-)) :-))


Ned
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on May 05, 2016, 11:17:03 pm
That is a lovely lake Nemo. Do the Geese behave?
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on May 07, 2016, 07:59:54 am
That is a nice place to sail. I was out with my Alantis at the same time, the wind was blowing a bit and at times she was right over. I'm slowly getting more used to sailing her now and she gets a fair bit of speed up with the wind behind her sails.
 I have now mastered the art of getting her back on the trolley, that's tricky and fun.... She comes belting towards me in a straight line and I have to get ready to grab the mast and guide her onto the trolley. I could use the prop as a brake but I try to sail without using the prop at all.
I only use the prop if I find myself getting too close to something I don't want to be near. So far I haven't needed to charge the Lipo emergency battery and it's still at 12v (I test it works before each outing)
 It's nice when people comment about her and ask if they can take photos. So far so good...... U2

 
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on May 07, 2016, 10:29:57 pm
That is a lovely lake Nemo. Do the Geese behave?

Not at all - these Canada geese are a complete menace. They chase off other birds and pester the small ducks. They make the worst mess ever with their droppings which seems continuous! They make our small slipway even more slippery! Dog-owners at least pick up their pooches mess, but the geese are ten times worse.  Apparently there is nothing we can do to deter them. >:-o
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: oldflyer2 on May 07, 2016, 10:42:45 pm
The Canada Geese are a pain in the butt here in Canada as well. Some parks are so bad that people don't go there. It does make good, natural garden fertilizer however.

They can be very aggressive and I have seen them keep people from getting their boat out of the water.

Cheers

Tom
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on May 09, 2016, 01:40:12 pm
 ok2 Yep, these illegal immigrants are some that we can really do without! Strange, but I toured all round Ontario 2 years back and never saw one - maybe they were on vacation at my lovely lake!  :D
Bob.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on May 09, 2016, 08:16:24 pm
Our old wooden jetty was lethal with slippery Goose poop. A guest at the Inn had great trouble with her wee doggy eating as uch as it could while she was talking to us last week!

How many Geese have you got on your lake?
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on May 10, 2016, 06:41:58 pm
I haven't counted them, but we have Brents as well as Canada and Greylag, maybe sometimes as much as 30 or more at a time. If only people would stop bringing bread for wildfowl which is bad for them anyway, we might not have such a problem.
Read this. - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1024314/The-loathsome-bird-Britain-Robert-Hardman-says-Canada-Geese-deserve-ASBOs.html
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on May 10, 2016, 07:27:20 pm
I'm glad the law has changed somewhat in benefit of users. We might be able to use this to deal with our rabble. We have a pair nesting at the moment.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on October 03, 2016, 08:41:52 pm
Back on the thread and bending the topic back to its original title..... Some photos to give an idea of the size to those of you who don't know




(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsubzqzun0.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsubzqzun0.jpeg.html)


(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/shux_photos/Alantis/image_zpsarzfdhue.jpeg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/shux_photos/media/Alantis/image_zpsarzfdhue.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on October 03, 2016, 09:40:32 pm
That's a good size. Both managble but visible for a good distance.

It has a gorgeous finish  :-))
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on October 06, 2016, 04:19:59 pm
You lucky man U2!  I had to 'bite the bullet' and pass on my Atlantis to another good home last month as I had to admit that she was just too big for my home. Now making waves on a lake on a Surrey golf course! I miss it to bits!! Bob.
   :((
 However, I now have this.......

Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: ballastanksian on October 06, 2016, 08:55:47 pm
The stern is attractive, well the whole model is. It looks much more handy as a model than the tall mast yachts.
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Nemo on October 06, 2016, 09:52:58 pm
I agree there Ian, but big yachts are my weakness. :embarrassed:  The Atlantis only fault is it is a heavyweight. O0
Title: Re: Alantis
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on October 09, 2016, 01:22:51 pm
Nice looking new boat there Nemo, what kind is it, how big is it and what does it weigh :police:  ?


Sorry to hear that your Alan, er ATLANtis had to move on I imagine someone is out there now standing by the lake with an enormous grin and either large biceps or a bad back :D . I'll be sailing mine later........ Big grin appears on U2s face......
Title: Re:Atlantis !
Post by: Nemo on October 10, 2016, 12:41:10 pm
U2: I don't miss lugging my Atlantis around any more but I do regret not seeing her graceful passage along our lake.
My Grand Banks Fishing Schooner conversion is 92cm long and 115cm tall. She weighs a mere 4.5kg incl. (mainly external) ballast so is a doddle to carry around - in one hand! :-))
I think she is an attractive model and is improving her sailing qualities with each 'tweaking'. The mainsail is the second one I have made as the first was not large or effective enough.
Bob..

PS: Did you make your sails?

The 'Helen B. Thomas'  Port of Boston 1902.