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Title: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Norseman on January 19, 2016, 03:47:29 pm
Hi Guys

Recently we have been mourning the loss of our musician heroes. It was once said to me that we do not laude and love our Engineers who have done so much for us.  I thought I would start a thread in praise of Engineers both old and modern. Any Engineering at all qualifies for this so I'll start with Henry Bessemer of Sheffield. He is of course most famous for the Bessemer process and steel but he had many other and sometimes novel inventions.

I am impressed that after suffering from seasickness in 1868 he designed the SS Bessemer (also called the "Bessemer Saloon"), a passenger steamship with a cabin on gimbals designed to stay level, however rough the sea, to save her passengers from seasickness. The mechanism – hydraulics controlled by a steersman watching a spirit level – worked in model form and in a trial version built in his garden in Denmark Hill, London. However, it never received a proper seagoing test as, when the ship demolished part of the Calais pier on her maiden voyage, investor confidence was lost and the ship was scrapped. http://www.howitworksdaily.com/why-swinging-saloons-failed/ OK it wasnt' a success but hey good try!


Dave


Title: Re: Are Engineers Underappreciated
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 19, 2016, 03:51:35 pm
How about Stephen Payne who was substantially responsible for designing the Queen Mary 2?

Colin
Title: Re: Are Engineers Underappreciated
Post by: Subculture on January 19, 2016, 04:16:49 pm
Stanley Hooker. Designed the two stage supercharger that helped raise the output of the merlin engine from 1000hp to 2000hp. Also a pioneer in the jet engine industry with Rolls Royce and Bristol and post retirement, was called back in and with his team helped save Rolls Royce from bankruptcy in the early '70's.

Good film about him here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by4lH2whhjk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by4lH2whhjk)
Title: Re: Are Engineers Underappreciated
Post by: Dave Cook on January 19, 2016, 06:58:40 pm
Hi Guys , Could not agree more ( unsung hero,s)

Dave O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Are Engineers Underappreciated
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 19, 2016, 07:13:40 pm
 
 I was watching the story of the DC-3 ( on Quest ).
 Not a story about an engineer as such, but TWA went to  Douglas Aircraft and said, ' we want an aircraft better than the Boeing 247!'

Personal favourite engineers: Trevithick , Watt, Stephenson & Westinghouse
Title: Re: Are Engineers Underappreciated
Post by: Buccaneer on January 19, 2016, 07:17:07 pm
Isambard Kingdom Brunel. 9th April 1806 - 15th September 1859. I will say no more.
John
Title: Re: Are Engineers Underappreciated
Post by: Netleyned on January 19, 2016, 07:25:08 pm
You beat me to it NA39  :-))


Ned
Title: Re: Are Engineers Underappreciated
Post by: ballastanksian on January 19, 2016, 08:40:26 pm
For me the DNCs of the Victorian Royal navy are gentlemen to doff the cap to.

-Sir Edward Reed 1863-1872
-Nathaniel Barnaby 1872-1885
-Sir William White 1885-1902

These engineers and managers of vast amounts of public money and turning them via their departments into many hundreds of warships and equipment, the like of which had not been seen before or since.

From sail to turbine, they either pioneered or enacted swift development of technologies that saw warships progress as 'Steam beings'. While the navy was sometimes seen as conservative, (the retention and development of muzzle loading ordnance for example) they embraced electricity, metallurgy and steam propulsion technologies.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: nemesis on January 19, 2016, 08:48:17 pm
How about the simple blacksmith who was so important to settlers and the villagers, the most prolific surname there is, QED. Nemesis
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: ballastanksian on January 19, 2016, 08:58:45 pm
Every village had one. Very true Nemesis.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Arrow5 on January 19, 2016, 09:50:22 pm
We must not forget an engineer who modified a Norton motorcycle and won a Gold Star at Brooklands for lapping at over 100mph in 1934 , the second woman O0 to do so, she refused to marry her  fiancé until he did the same (he did).   As a Rolls-Royce engineer working on Merlin aero engines  Miss Beatrice Shilling solved the  problem of fuel starvation while pulling negative G in Spitfires and Hurricanes. The device was referred to as  "Miss Shilling`s orifice" for some reason not explained.  ;)
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Sub driver on January 19, 2016, 10:38:26 pm
How about
Sir Christopher Cockerell....inventor of the hovercraft...and also Sir Frank whittle jet engine inventor..
Sub
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: BFSMP on January 19, 2016, 11:34:01 pm
Alec Issigonis is a favourite of mine.

Jim.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: david48 on January 20, 2016, 12:17:31 am
What about the nameless ones that keep every thing going ,without engineers how would surgeons ,dentist function just to name two professions , a bit like a container ship 98% everything  that we use all relying on engineers to keep us doing what we do .
David
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Robotnik on January 20, 2016, 10:50:28 am
I don't know the name of the engineer who conceived or designed them but for me, one of the greatest engineering feats were the Mulberry harbours used in operation Overlord.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: TailUK on January 20, 2016, 12:43:44 pm
John Harrison,  Yorkshire, 1693-1776.  Carpenter and clock maker, Harrison's clocks and watches enabled accurate measurement of Longitude and revolutionised Marine Navigation.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 20, 2016, 01:29:02 pm
I don't know the name of the engineer who conceived or designed them but for me,
one of the greatest engineering feats were the Mulberry harbours used in operation Overlord.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulberry_harbour#Design_and_development
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Ian K on January 20, 2016, 04:06:49 pm
W.G. Armstrong

See Armstrong shipbuilders, ordinance and heavy engineering.

Also pioneer of water turbine generator, fitted at his own designed electrically lit home, Crag side house in Northumberland.

A true genius in my humble opinion!

Ian
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Netleyned on January 20, 2016, 04:48:28 pm
Don't forget the thousands of pattern maker's who formed the original
Items to be cast to build all the fantastic steam engines and pumps.
Many still running today.


Ned
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: irishcarguy on January 20, 2016, 06:42:56 pm
I would like to add two Canadians, Alexander Graham Bell for the telephone, & Banting & Best, not strictly engineers but has saved Millions of lives with their invention of insulin for diabetics. Of course we can't forget Cornelius Van Horne who built our CP rail line through some of the toughest terrain on the Planet & finished it on time too. AS an after thought how about Marconi that gave us a working radio, just a few that need to be remembered as great men of their time. Mick B.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: irishcarguy on January 20, 2016, 08:18:09 pm
I should note that Best was not recognised  for his contribution to insulin & the Nobel prize was given to Banting & MacLeod. However Banting shared his prize with his co/ worker Best. There are still some decent people & Banting knew Best should have been rewarded too.  Mick B.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: mook on January 21, 2016, 10:27:30 am
IKB my hero I often wonder what he would have come up with if the was around now can I throw in Thomas Telford too :-))
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Arrow5 on January 21, 2016, 10:39:37 am
Babbage and his number machine.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Nemo on January 21, 2016, 10:47:24 am
Referring to the title of this thread, most of the engineers mentioned here so far have been anything but unappreciated! IMHO  %)
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Bob K on January 21, 2016, 11:06:57 am
Sir Frank Whittle (jet engines), Barnes Wallis (bouncing bomb), George Stepheson (steam railways), Joseph Bazelgette (London's sewage system), and not forgetting Lilly The Pink (medicinal compound).
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Robotnik on January 21, 2016, 12:03:52 pm
Sir Clive Sinclair, very underappreciated by the press but very appreciated by me.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: tsenecal on January 21, 2016, 03:38:59 pm
Sir Clive Sinclair, very underappreciated by the press but very appreciated by me.


my very first computer was a timex-sinclair 1000 !!!!


wouldn't be where i am, if it weren't for him...
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Netleyned on January 21, 2016, 04:16:26 pm




wouldn't be where i am, if it weren't for him...


You certainly wouldn't have got there in a Sinclair C5  {-) {-)


Ned
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Norseman on January 21, 2016, 05:36:21 pm
Referring to the title of this thread, most of the engineers mentioned here so far have been anything but unappreciated! IMHO  %)

The kids of today probably couldn't string the names of five Engineers together but can name numerous fake celebrities, ball kickers, and media bods. Hence my unapreciated term. Just looking back above I dont see any lady Engineers mentioned either.

Dave
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 21, 2016, 05:40:16 pm
'I dont see any lady Engineers mentioned either.'

You didn't look hard enough Dave!

Colin
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: tugmad on January 21, 2016, 06:10:57 pm
Here is a lady for you, Victoria Drummond the first female chief engineer in the Merchant Navy.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Norseman on January 21, 2016, 07:12:40 pm
Ah yes Colin
I stand corrected Miss Beatrice Shilling has been mentioned in despatches  :embarrassed:

Dave
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Buccaneer on January 21, 2016, 08:12:01 pm
Thank you mook for adding Thomas Telford, I was about to do that myself. Whilst we're on transport let us add Sir John Fowler and Sir Benjamin Baker (probably not knights at the time) - The Forth Bridge.
John
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: tobyker on January 24, 2016, 04:41:06 pm
Magnus Volks of the Brighton electric railway and the daddy long-legs (and house lighting!)
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: markjames68 on January 24, 2016, 06:12:59 pm
Reginald Mitchell
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Arrow5 on January 24, 2016, 09:25:18 pm
Whitehead, (torpedoes)
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Robotnik on January 24, 2016, 11:04:47 pm
Of course, Reginald Mitchell, thank you.
Which brings to mind my own hero of aviation engineering Henri Mignet.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: roycv on January 24, 2016, 11:42:00 pm
Miss Beatrice Shilling has a son Phil, who was one of our club members.  He also is / was an engineer very clever too.
Roy
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Nemo on January 25, 2016, 01:54:38 pm
Without a doubt,  Nikola Tesla 1856 – 1943 a Serbian American physicist, inventor, electrical engineer, mechanical engineer and futurist best known for his contributions to the design of the modern alternating current (AC) electricity supply system is the most important 'Unappreciated Engineer' ever.
He held over 300 patents worldwide yet never received any official prize or award.

Inventor of alternating current in a practical form with his Tesla (induction) Coil, his work has made almost everything in our modern world possible. Thomas Edison and Guglielmo Marconi used his patents blatantly to achieve fame yet both received Nobel prizes, and Tesla died almost penniless in a hotel room where he lived.

On a topical note he was the designer and inventor of the first radio-controlled boat, so we have so much to appreciate from his genius.

'In 1898, Tesla demonstrated a radio-controlled boat (U.S. Patent 613,809 —Method of an Apparatus for Controlling Mechanism of Moving Vehicle or Vehicles)'
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Starspider on January 25, 2016, 05:01:53 pm
Ms Cherry Hinds Hill a great engineer and a hero of mine.
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Norseman on January 25, 2016, 05:16:15 pm
http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/showthread.php?t=19685 re the above
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: Arrow5 on January 27, 2016, 10:53:15 am
James Clerk Maxwell was featured on BBC4 on Tuesday 28th Jan .  Should be able to catch it on iPlayer etc. Not an engineer but influenced engineering, an  unsung genius.    On the same day the Google doodle was  John Logie baird (TV), coincidence ?
Title: Re: Underappreciated Engineers
Post by: raflaunches on January 27, 2016, 11:43:59 am
Beverley Shenstone


Has only just been recognised in a book called Secrets of the Spitfire. He designed the elliptical wing for Mitchell's Spitfire. His designs are still used in delta winged aircraft as the Spitfire wing design has a lot in common with deltas. He worked in Germany in the pre-war years with Prof Lippish who designed some of the early deltas for the Luftwaffe- none entered service- but Shenstone developed the basic design and we have some of the efficient wing designs in the world as a result.