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Title: House latex for filler
Post by: Hande on January 31, 2016, 09:32:04 am
Did I mess up?


True to my signature and based on a tip, I tried house latex for filler on my ABS hull. Tamiya putty seemed too expensive and thick. I tried thinning the putty with hardware store lacquer thinner (white spirit) (I know, there's a Tamiya LT product, but costly), but the putty behaved weird - it went in to an awkward clumpy porridge.


The latex was easy to spread with a sponge-brush and with enough of elbow grease it was fairly easy to sand. It sticks well.
How does it work with Vallejo Model Color? I'm planning to apply a plastic primer before the Vallejo paint.







Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: tigertiger on January 31, 2016, 12:30:11 pm
I am puzzled by what house latex is.
Could you provide a little more info please.
Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: Hande on January 31, 2016, 01:10:54 pm
I was not sure about the English.
In Finland we typically use certain water-based paints ("latex") for e.g. walls of rooms indoors.
Hence "house latex".
I have read that the base substance of latex paints has something to do with rubber.
There is no rubbery feeling in the end result, though[size=78%].[/size]



Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: essex2visuvesi on January 31, 2016, 01:52:56 pm
Hande
Can you post up a pic of the packaging and maybe I can do a better translation :)


I would suggest a coat of isolator spray before doing any painting just to be certain


Something like U-Pol 720 (Hopefully you can find a cheaper one in Finland as the U-Pol stuff is very expensive over there)
Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: Big Ada on January 31, 2016, 06:04:11 pm
Household Emulsion Paint ?
Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: ballastanksian on January 31, 2016, 06:08:09 pm
Americans call 'Emulsion' paint 'Latex' paint, so perhaps the Finns call it that as well?  Being waterbased, I would have thought it needs a water based thinner, or maybe even just water to thin it.
Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: Plastic - RIP on February 01, 2016, 06:54:25 am
I think he might be talking about 'painter's mate' - the acrylic gap-filler stuff in a tube used for decorating.
Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: Hande on February 01, 2016, 11:48:09 am
Sorry folks. I was hospitalised for a little stretch...


It's a proper paint - not a filler. Comes in paint cans that only come with Finnish and Swedish text.


Dispersion paint - thinned with water. Indoors. Not really meant for plastics.
Reaches final cure in 4 weeks (!). This means that it's chemical properties against solvents etc. are reached 4 weeks.


It seems just perfect in terms of handling. I will follow essex2visuvesi's suggestion to use an isolation spray (primer). Would a paint primer not do? See the latter two pics.


By googling "Tikkurila REMONTTIMAALI 20", you can find the data sheet. (Good for you e2v if you read Finnish!)







Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: Hande on February 01, 2016, 11:59:13 am

For the insulator, would a painting primer not do?







I will follow essex2visuvesi's suggestion to use an isolation spray (primer). Would a paint primer not do? See the latter two pics.

Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: Hande on February 01, 2016, 12:03:29 pm
About my MOTIP plastic primer.
Is there a chance that Vallejo acrylics don't stick well to it?


I have made a test: by sanding, the paint came off very easy, but I thought I was being too rough and used too small-numbered a grit.



Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: ballastanksian on February 01, 2016, 09:26:52 pm
How long had the vellejo been left todry before sanding? I ask because my experience ith vellejo is that it has a flexible vinyl phase before fully curing when it can be a bit fragile.
Title: Re: House latex for filler
Post by: Hande on February 02, 2016, 10:51:04 am



I let it cure for 2-3 days after the 3rd coat. I hadn't used varnish, yet, when I decided to fix some flaws on the surface. My mistake really was that I didn't let it wait long enough between coats. I think that's it...



How long had the vellejo been left todry before sanding? I ask because my experience ith vellejo is that it has a flexible vinyl phase before fully curing when it can be a bit fragile.