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Title: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 05, 2016, 07:33:20 PM
I have ordered my next tug build which is a ASD Tug from MMB, it comes as a semi kit and should arrive by the end of next week. The kit comes with 45mm nozzles but as I want it for towing these he is going to replace with 50mm, I am looking at fitting 555 high torque motors driving 50mm 4 blade brass props so it should be fine with lots of power, your thoughts on this set up  So all I can add for now is watch this space.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: tugnut on April 05, 2016, 08:50:01 PM
Hi Dave i used all the origanal bits on my one and she works great they are a lovely tug to build to.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: Fastfaz on April 05, 2016, 08:55:14 PM
   Not sure about the 50mm Korts and props for towing especially with the size of the boat, I have 70mm Korts on my tugs with either a pair of T12's or scooter/fan motors these tugs are very powerful. If you contact one of the guys from Balne moor (competition this weekend on sunday) they are really helpful. Good luck.
       Regards,
            Faz. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 05, 2016, 09:08:00 PM
   Not sure about the 50mm Korts and props for towing especially with the size of the boat, I have 70mm Korts on my tugs with either a pair of T12's or scooter/fan motors these tugs are very powerful. If you contact one of the guys from Balne moor (competition this weekend on sunday) they are really helpful. Good luck.
       Regards,
            Faz. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Hi Faz, I spoke to Mark when I placed the order and he said when he built his it was taken to Balne moore  and it towed the San George around with his standard set up no problem, so I should be ok with the set up I have now gone for as motors and props have now been ordered. Time will tell. :-)) :-)) :-)) And yours looks very good john and on standard set up too......Does it pull ok.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: Capt Podge on April 05, 2016, 10:42:40 PM
Patiently waiting Dave. O0

(you don't hang about do you)?

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: tugnut on April 06, 2016, 06:13:20 AM
Hi Dave, she tows fine running on 12v set up. :-))
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 06, 2016, 07:34:22 AM
Patiently waiting Dave. O0

(you don't hang about do you)?

Regards,

Ray.

Hi Ray, No mate once I have made my mind up I go full out, I have to keep my mind active or I would go nuts with boredom....not much fun being stuck in a wheelchair so I get my wife to throw me in my shed and I'm happy as long as the supply of coffee keeps coming. Thanks John so I should be fine with a 50mm set up running on 12 volts. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: jerseydaz on April 09, 2016, 11:06:56 PM
Hi Dave. I bought the ASD in your pictures from Mark and have no problems towing with it. It's even better for free handling being very manoueuvrable due to it having independent kort nozzles. Thoroughly recommended.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 10, 2016, 10:35:05 AM
Hi Dave. I bought the ASD in your pictures from Mark and have no problems towing with it. It's even better for free handling being very manoueuvrable due to it having independent kort nozzles. Thoroughly recommended.

Thanks Mate, I am looking forward to it arriving and getting started on the build. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 12, 2016, 05:27:29 PM
Had a phone call from Mark at MMB today and my new tug will be on it's way tomorrow, can't wait to get started. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: TugCowboy on April 12, 2016, 08:15:19 PM
Exciting stuff Dave. I look forward to seeing the build progress!
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 13, 2016, 07:35:21 AM
Exciting stuff Dave. I look forward to seeing the build progress!

It sure is mate, we have a Tug Towing event at our club planed for the 26th June so I am hoping that she will be ready to take part in that. It will all depend on what goes on with getting my leg sorted.....with the way things are going I don't think anything will happen for a long while yet with these strikes the Doctors keep having my op will be put on the list like everyone else.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: Captain fizz on April 13, 2016, 07:53:14 AM
No pressure there then Dave,good luck with the build.
I hope you get your op sorted soon.


Simon
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 13, 2016, 08:27:07 AM
No pressure there then Dave,good luck with the build.
I hope you get your op sorted soon.


Simon

Thanks Simon, No pressure mate if it's ready fine if not it's not the end of the world.  :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 14, 2016, 11:58:26 AM
Hi all, well my new tug has arrived and looking at it I am very happy.....it looks great, can't wait to get started I will add some photo's later.  :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: Norseman on April 14, 2016, 08:14:13 PM
I'll tag along - a 26th June deadline!
It'd take me that long to check the contents  %) 


Dave
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 15, 2016, 09:02:16 AM
Ok here is what I start with, so now the fun begins.  :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: Capt Podge on April 15, 2016, 10:23:14 AM
Photographs right from the start - that's what we like to see - should keep you busy for a few weeks... %)

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: Starspider on April 15, 2016, 03:15:40 PM
I will tag along as well as I have this on my list to replace my Assurance tug when I sell it.
Colin
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 15, 2016, 04:27:09 PM
Ok made a start, first job was to mark out were the korts were they were to be located. Once I was happy and the measurements were checked again and again two 5mm holes were drilled. Once the korts were lined up they were fixed in place with P38 filler, this has now been left to fully harden I will then go over them again with Fast glass resin.


Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: Starspider on April 15, 2016, 05:40:50 PM
First holes are always the worst, looking good tho'
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: Davenotdone on April 15, 2016, 05:49:37 PM
No expert on these matters but is that car body filler holding in  your Kort nozzles? Some people say it is not waterproof and allso weak. Just a thought but a nice build log by the way, regards, Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: Captain fizz on April 15, 2016, 05:57:01 PM
Yes, it is car body filler. You are correct, it is not waterproof which is why MD will go over it with resin.
It is useful for the first fix because it goes off nice and fast.


Simon
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 15, 2016, 05:57:44 PM
No expert on these matters but is that car body filler holding in  your Kort nozzles? Some people say it is not waterproof and allso weak. Just a thought but a nice build log by the way, regards, Dave.

Hi Dave, I will be going over the filler with resin mate... I have always fitted them this way and up to now I have never had any problems. I would think we all do things different and I'm sure others will let us know there way of doing this part of the build.  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: 16-21 on April 15, 2016, 07:16:46 PM
Did you not get one of marks fantastic Hawaii shirts?
I thought he supplied one with each purchase.

Nice looking tug Dave
Defo watching the build.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: Davenotdone on April 15, 2016, 07:18:49 PM
Okey dokey Dave, just an observation, looking forward to this build, allways fancied this kit myself, regards, Dave.

Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 15, 2016, 07:24:35 PM
Did you not get one of marks fantastic Hawaii shirts?
I thought he supplied one with each purchase.

Nice looking tug Dave
Defo watching the build.

No mate, you only get the shirt if you paint the tug in the shirt colours. LOL  :-)) :-)) :-

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: tugnut on April 15, 2016, 07:47:44 PM
Hi Dave,i never got the shirt {-)  if you need any pictures just ask :-))
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: 16-21 on April 15, 2016, 07:56:27 PM
Haha,

That will certainly be a bright Tug then.
Know running lights required....
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 16, 2016, 10:17:09 AM
Hi Dave,i never got the shirt {-)  if you need any pictures just ask :-))

Hi John, yes please mate I would like to see lot's of your photo's ....I know I can learn a lot from looking at your builds mate.  :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way
Post by: mersey dave on April 16, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
Okey dokey Dave, just an observation, looking forward to this build, allways fancied this kit myself, regards, Dave.

No problem Dave I welcome all comments mate....after all that's how we learn. Go for it mate and get the kit you won't be disappointed.  :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 16, 2016, 04:18:30 PM
Hi all, I have now fitted the prop-shafts and again these have been fixed with P38 filler and I have gone over the filler on the Kort fixing points and the shafts with a good lashing of Resin so there will be no chance of any water getting in at these points. I will take some photo's later as I had to get of the shed before I got to high.  :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: Captain fizz on April 16, 2016, 04:22:00 PM
Ahh! Saturday afternoon snorting resin fumes, what could be better. :-))
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 16, 2016, 04:29:44 PM
Ahh! Saturday afternoon snorting resin fumes, what could be better. :-))

Yes it's good stuff, got rid of the pain in my leg for now.  {-) {-)

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 17, 2016, 03:37:28 PM
Ok like I said the shafts are in and props on just to make sure all is well, I am now waiting on the couplings to arrive and I can then fit the motors in place. I also have the servo box to make and fit this at the same time....it's coming along.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: tugnut on April 17, 2016, 05:05:28 PM
Looking good Dave :-)) let me have your email and i will send you the pictures.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 17, 2016, 06:59:07 PM
Thanks for sending the photo's John.   :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: tugnut on April 17, 2016, 07:44:40 PM
Hope they help Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 17, 2016, 08:41:05 PM
Hope they help Dave.

They will be a great help John, thanks again mate.  :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 19, 2016, 07:19:59 PM
Ok today I cut out the 8 windows on the lower accommodation block, as you can see I drilled some holes to start with and then moved onto the file.... a slow job but not one that cannot be rushed. I then made a start on the main deck supports while I wait for the bits I ordered to arrive...hopefully tomorrow I can the get the motors in and then carry on with the rest of the deck supports. Coming along slowly.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 19, 2016, 09:08:37 PM
Hi all, I have been looking at the other builds of this kit and noticed that there has been no wash ports cut out, is this just down to the builder or is there another reason.

Regards Dave,
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: tugnut on April 20, 2016, 06:39:14 AM
I think you are right i have seen a couple with them done , looking good :-)) .
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: Capt Podge on April 20, 2016, 11:28:40 PM
Coming along slowly.

Regards Dave.

You're coming along nice and steady Dave - looking forward to more of the same. :-))

(my build is hardly moving at all - must get myself motivated)

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 21, 2016, 08:43:35 AM
You're coming along nice and steady Dave - looking forward to more of the same. :-))

(my build is hardly moving at all - must get myself motivated)

Regards,

Ray.

Hi Ray, come on mate get that motivation going.....the weather is picking up your new build needs to be on the water.  :-)) :-)) :-))

Best Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 22, 2016, 05:03:42 PM
Hi all, I have now got the motors fitted in place along with the servo. I have gone for 2mm brass rod for all the servo to kort and then from kort to kort, I know some will think this is a bit on the heavy side but what I have decided to do is beef up everything at the stern as I am going to take a chance on a sealed one piece deck.....no hatches on the stern....The reason being to keep all water from entering the hull as it can be a bit choppy here at New Brighton so when it's towing from the Bow there is a high risk of water splashing over the stern. Also I have now fitted most of the deck supports so tomorrow I intend getting them finished and move on to fitting the electrics ready for the test tank...ok the bath...Will take some photo's of the progress tomorrow. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: Netleyned on April 22, 2016, 05:13:02 PM
I think wash ports are a no-brainer if you have a choppy lake.
Water swilling around the deck with nowhere to go but inside
if there are no ports to send it overboard.


Ned
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 22, 2016, 05:36:20 PM
I think wash ports are a no-brainer if you have a choppy lake.
Water swilling around the deck with nowhere to go but inside
if there are no ports to send it overboard.

Ned

Yes I have to agree Ned, wash ports will be going in mate. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: Fastfaz on April 22, 2016, 05:50:29 PM
     Dave,
          Cut out the wash ports please! after waiting since December last year the last few days of sunshine and warmth has allowed me to take out and lower down the roof lights in my shed (they were fitted with a 2 inch upstand but unfortunately this caused a water holding valley) to cure the minor capillary action dripping leak that had become a P.I.T.A. Water will always go to the lowest point so wash ports are a deffo. Nice to see you are progressing keep up the good work.
       Cheers,
               Faz. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on April 22, 2016, 05:59:38 PM
Hi Faz, will do mate thanks. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on May 23, 2016, 07:42:36 AM
Hi all, just a quick update.....Nothing is getting done on the build at the moment due to waiting to go back into hospital to have a bit more of my leg amputated, once they have sorted my leg out I will get back to working on the tugs again.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: tugnut on May 23, 2016, 07:55:18 AM
Hi Dave hope Goa's OK for you.
all the best John
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on May 23, 2016, 05:29:07 PM
Hi Dave hope Goa's OK for you.
all the best John

Thanks John.  :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: Capt Podge on May 23, 2016, 10:41:21 PM
Wish you a safe and successful op and a speedy recovery Dave.

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on May 24, 2016, 06:40:31 PM
Wish you a safe and successful op and a speedy recovery Dave.

Regards,

Ray.

Thanks Ray, they say at the hospital I am looking at the end of July to have the op so a bit of a wait yet.  :((

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: deepstar on May 27, 2016, 11:43:31 PM
hi dave
they are a great little tug
 i have two that i sail
and on hull and superstructure ready to build
so i will be be selling one
 to make a bit of room for the new one
 keep the photos coming
and good luck with the build
regards deepstar
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on March 07, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
Hi all, just a quick update..... I will be getting back on this build again very soon I have been doing bits on my Maltby so it's getting close to working on my ASD tug so there will be lot's of photo's and your help needed I am sure. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: tugnut on March 07, 2017, 06:18:47 PM
Cant wait :-))
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on March 10, 2017, 04:01:14 PM
Ok I have now got round to working on the tug again, today I managed to get some of the wheelhouse built.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: tugnut on March 10, 2017, 06:38:06 PM
 :-)) :-)) and now the windows %%
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on March 10, 2017, 07:13:02 PM
Windows...... I will have a go at them tomorrow John, I hate doing windows but they will have to be done. I have decided to change the look of the wheelhouse a bit and yet still undecided as to fitting a bow thruster. :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: Paul2407 on March 11, 2017, 08:16:53 AM
That's a lovely looking Tug Dave, can't wait to follow the further progress of this
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on March 11, 2017, 10:52:29 AM
That's a lovely looking Tug Dave, can't wait to follow the further progress of this

Hi Paul, yes its a nice handy size my idea is I can carry this around as and when I have bad days with my leg. But as you can see I have a long way to go before this one gets to see any water.  :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: Paul2407 on March 11, 2017, 02:25:25 PM
my take on these models, does it matter how long it takes if you enjoy it just relax and it takes as longs as it takes

I've just started a restoration on a smit rotterdam where the paint was all cracked infact after sanding it back this morning it turns out it was the filler originally done 38 years ago that was cracked anyway all sanded this morning back to bare wood, and currently the sealer is drying 
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on March 11, 2017, 04:19:39 PM
my take on these models, does it matter how long it takes if you enjoy it just relax and it takes as longs as it takes

I've just started a restoration on a smit rotterdam where the paint was all cracked infact after sanding it back this morning it turns out it was the filler originally done 38 years ago that was cracked anyway all sanded this morning back to bare wood, and currently the sealer is drying

Hi Paul. sounds like a big job you have on your hands..... Good luck hope it all goes well. :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards Dave.



Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: Paul2407 on March 11, 2017, 04:56:54 PM
Thanks Dave,
It won't be as nice as yours, I'm not as good at modelling as most on here :( but I will do a reasonable job (I hope  {:-{ ) It's a bigger job than I should have started with as I've not built a boat for 25+ years but I got a nice sized boat very cheap so fingers crossed.

Thanks Paul

Look forward to all the updates on your boat
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: mersey dave on March 24, 2017, 08:11:24 AM
Hi all, just a quick update...... I have not done anymore on the tug due to me getting a new false leg and at the moment it's quite painful to wear. But hopefully things will settle down soon I hope and I can get back to working on it soon.

Regards Dave.
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: Tugboat adam on February 09, 2018, 04:32:34 PM
Looks great Dave my running gear for mine only arrived last week :-)
Title: Re: New Tug on the way ( ASD Tug from MMB )
Post by: essexbill on April 02, 2018, 09:54:48 AM
Hi.
Like your thread on this build you have answered a lot of my questions before I need to ask them.
I am just getting back into model boating.
With limited time and only the garden to use as a workshop for larger jobs, do you think this is a good project ?
It looks fairly straight forward as a build and reasonably affordable with fittings ect included with the hull.
Of coarse I know running gear motors and so forth will be extra.