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Title: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on April 09, 2016, 06:49:55 PM
Dear Folks, I have finally received the kit for the Indy from www.technoart.eu of Latvia.  This WW2 US Cruiser has a very interesting history, having carried one of the A-bombs that was dropped on Japan, was sunk by a Japan sub on her return to the US, losing several hundred men to sharks and a delayed rescue.  Her captain went through court martial and then later killed himself.  A movie of the ships story is coming out this summer.  The kit is massive, with a scale of 1:192, she will be over 3ft long.  Parts use epoxy castings, bronze castings, brass castings, plastic and photo-etched parts.  Highly detailed and museum quality.  I estimate this to be a two year project.  The model will be static.
Hope you all enjoy the build as much as I hope to.    Best regards,  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: rnli12 on April 09, 2016, 07:43:44 PM
Dennis,
 
Looking forward to seeing this build, are there any photos of the kit to share?
 
Regards,
 
Rich
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Post by: dlancast on April 09, 2016, 07:58:06 PM
Yes, Rich.  I will be taking some kit pictures as soon as I can.  A bit busy right now, but will do so later on.
Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on April 09, 2016, 10:13:27 PM
Ok, here we go.  I haven't unpacked all the parts, as there are many. They are all bagged and labeled.  Essentially, what you get is a pre-cast hull in epoxy, Bags of bronze parts, epoxy cast parts, plastic parts and several sheets of brass PE for parts.  A CD which prints out a build manual 1-1/2" thick.  I placed those sheets into a 3 ring binder.  There are only 3 sheets of printed instructions, the rest are Cad drawings, numbered line drawings and then many construction and finished model photo in high res., so that you can zoom in for incredible details.  I loaded the entire CD onto my backup hard drive and then loaded the parts catalog and photos of what I am working on at this time onto my main hard drive.  The parts catalog will allow you to do a search for the part number to get a picture of what you are looking for in the bag of parts, etc.  I have decided to start with the 3 Seagull SOC-1 Seaplanes.  They are very small at this scale and completely detailed.  Most of the wing support wires will all be scratch. The propeller and wing floats are cast in bronze.  At a price point of $1,000 US dollars, I consider this to be the most expensive build to date.  The kits are a limited edition of only 12 and they are sold out.  I don't know if I have a collectors item, but who knows.  I'm happy.  Lets see if we can get the photos to load.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on April 11, 2016, 02:03:35 AM
Assembly has begun with rudders to floats for seaplanes... tiny..


Dennis
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Post by: Norseman on April 11, 2016, 03:11:00 PM
Hi Dennis


I'll tag along for the build.


Your link didn't work for me - maybe it is because it contains a C?
http://www.tehnoart.eu worked ok


Dave
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Post by: dlancast on April 11, 2016, 05:24:04 PM
Sri about the link, as long as you got it to work.  the construction and finished model photos are amazing.


Dennis
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Post by: ballastanksian on April 11, 2016, 11:41:29 PM
Looks like a great start made Dennis. I will study their site in a moment and see what they do.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Capt Podge on April 12, 2016, 12:03:27 AM
Hi there Dennis - you've done it again! - chosen another fantastic subject to build. There's going to be a lot of interest in this one I think.
If it turns out as good as your previous models then we're in for a treat. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on April 12, 2016, 01:36:26 AM
Thank you Ray.  I'll try my best.


Fairwinds,


Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on April 12, 2016, 05:00:00 PM
Seaplane is coming together.  Truthfully, I have never modeled something so small with the kind of detail required. These old hands are just barely able to hold the brush steady.  And I have to make 3 of these guys with one having her wings folded back.


Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Capt Podge on April 13, 2016, 12:09:22 AM
These old hands are just barely able to hold the brush steady.

Dennis

I can empathise with you there Dennis - just recently saw a specialist who diagnosed this shaky hand of mine as "intention tremor".

However, my troubles are minor compared with some - just have to live with it. >:-o

Anyway, regarding your build, you've at least made a start - looking forward to seeing more.... O0

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: John R Haynes on April 13, 2016, 12:35:03 PM
I am building the USS Portland 1944 for an American collector at 1/128 scale . Eventually the whole build will be on my site but at present I am making masters for the Quads/directors Mk 33 and 34 and the turret set . I am just fitting the deck so not a lot to show yet. A few years ago I built
USS San Francisco for a collector in San Fran and this class of ship was built just after the Portland class, the Portland being a slightly bigger ship.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on April 13, 2016, 09:27:26 PM
Well sir, I'd sure love to see some pics of your build at some point.  Its all challenging and you are building from scratch.  I just have a ton of very small pieces to try to sort out and put together into something that looks like a ship.  Building these seaplanes is really giving me a good sense of scale and what is in store for me down the road.  I love all the detail, that's for sure.  Just about ready to mount the upper wing on the first aircraft, having just added her decals.  One of my wing struts went "bing" and flew into the great black hole, never to be found again.... time for scratch build on that thing. Darn.  I'll have pics soon.


Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on April 13, 2016, 09:32:52 PM
Pace yourself Dennis, you look to be doing fine. I look forward to see more of your work soon.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on April 14, 2016, 07:05:57 PM
Hi folks,  seaplane is coming together, painted, wings and decals on and wing struts in.  I'm working on support wires between wings right now.  Floats will be next.  I think I'm getting used to the size.. very tiny.


Regards,


Dennis
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Post by: Sandy on April 14, 2016, 10:39:47 PM
Tricky stuff ..  :-))
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Post by: Capt Podge on April 15, 2016, 12:10:24 AM
Hi Dennis, I'm guessing that the 'plane lying upside down is the one where the strut pinged off (port wing) and the photo shows the replacement you made ?

....and the photo of you working away does indeed show just how small the items are. :o

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on April 15, 2016, 01:26:31 AM
Yes, that be the one.  I haven't made the new strut yet, I borrowed another one from the other two airplanes.  I'm not looking forward to having to remake that strut.  I'll trace one of the good ones onto some spare brass sheet and snip it out.... simple  >>:-( .
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Post by: dlancast on April 16, 2016, 10:02:17 PM
One down, two more to go.


Dennis
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Post by: ballastanksian on April 17, 2016, 06:41:08 PM
That's a good idea doing the planes first. I would find it difficult to enthuse about doing these after spending months/years on the ship.

Keep up the good work:O)
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on April 25, 2016, 09:53:26 PM
Just a note, I'm still at it.  Working on the second seaplane.  This one will have folded wings and be sitting just in front of the hanger, on deck.  I will build a 3rd airplane and have both on their respective catapults.  Its a very, very slow process, due to the small scale and these old hands, but its getting done.


Dennis
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Post by: Capt Podge on April 25, 2016, 11:12:12 PM
Thanks for the update Dennis - at least we all know you're still plugging away at it.

Regards,

Ray.
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Post by: rem2007 on April 26, 2016, 07:22:46 AM
there is a film being released in September about the USS Indianapolis with Nicholas Cage..

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2491292160/tt2032572?ref_=tt_ov_i
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on April 30, 2016, 04:21:41 AM
Yes, I know about the movie and am most anxious to see it.  Ok folks, I have just completed the second of 3 seaplanes for the Indy model.  This one has "folded" wings and will sit just in front of the hanger, once that phase is completed.  The model is tail heavy and won't sit upright on her carriage until glued into position. I'm pretty pleased with the way it turned out and from my internet research, she is pretty accurate in scale.  Enjoy, I am!.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on April 30, 2016, 04:22:12 AM
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Post by: dlancast on May 28, 2016, 04:30:39 AM
All seaplanes are now completed.  On to the hull work.  Prop shaft and supports installed.  Rudder installed (that is one massive rudder for that size ship.  Wonder why they didn't use smaller twin rudders?).  Bottom paint next.
Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on May 28, 2016, 04:31:11 AM
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Post by: construction worker on May 28, 2016, 11:04:04 AM
Always very interersting to follow such build.
Great work on the modell Dennis.
And indeed a massive rudder.
I'm looking forword to the next update.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on June 02, 2016, 02:54:07 AM
Bottom paint is starting to go on.  Next after black will be dark navy blue and then light grey.  Nice combo and will match the destroyer I just finished.   Dennis
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Post by: Capt Podge on June 02, 2016, 09:56:50 PM
Hi Dennis, nice to see the painting phase is progressing. She's coming along nicely.

Regards,

Ray.
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Post by: dlancast on June 05, 2016, 04:44:09 AM
Full hull color on now.  Next is to make a working cradle to protect that new paint job and give me a firm platform to begin adding decks and superstructure, etc.
Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on June 05, 2016, 04:44:38 AM
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Post by: ballastanksian on June 05, 2016, 03:22:42 PM
That would look so good on the water once completed! She is coming along really well and those Kingfishers will add so much to an already anticipated model.
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Post by: dlancast on June 05, 2016, 05:41:28 PM
I agree, she would look good on the water, but sorry to say, this will be a static model, living its life out in a glass case.   Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on June 09, 2016, 01:06:46 AM
She had plenty of push with those screws.  Kit detail amazes me.  Even the zincs are cast into the rudder and painted silver.  Now working on anchor detail.  I guess my plan is to work my way from the bow aft, then build up the super structures fore to aft. Will see how it goes.


Dennis
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Post by: derekwarner on June 09, 2016, 02:21:13 AM
Following on with your build  :-)) as always Dennis

Just wonder in the propeller's are in the correct locations?....the first single image confirms outby rotation......the following images suggest a mixture of both outby and inbuy??.  :o.............

Derek
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on June 09, 2016, 05:41:02 AM
Derek, I think you got me on that one.  You are correct and I did not notice.. thought they were all the same and did wonder for a moment about that... let me study the finished model photos closely and see if they did it correct??  No problem in making a switch.. maybe you can help me with this one.  Tks... Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on June 09, 2016, 05:48:15 AM
All be darn.... kit manuf. photos show starboard screws both pitch to the right, which would means a clockwise rotation for ahead and the port is opposite, assuming the port screws are counter-rotating compared to the starboard two... make since?  Let me know before I switch um.  See, for a kit of this caliber, it is assumed that the builder knows what he or she is doing..... yea right.  Dennis
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Post by: derekwarner on June 09, 2016, 07:33:53 AM
Dennis....have never seen :o the underwater workings of a [Portland-class cruiser], ie., the USS Indianapolis CA35....I would have assumed looking on the rudder, that by US naval vessels propulsion conventions, the Stdb pair clockwise, and the Port pair anti clockwise for FWD movement

Would have been a pig to steer or navigate with mixed rotations >>:-(......... Derek
_________________________________________________________________

Google confirms .....

U.S.S. Indianapolis
Powered by eight White-Forster type boilers and four sets of geared Parsons turbines driving four out-turning propellers, the ship has a plant designed to develop 1-7,000 horsepower at 366 R.P.M. and to attain a speed of 32.7 knots [37.6 statute m.p.h.]. The builders were successful in meeting the requirements set, for the ship, and at trials at sea, exceeded the speed demanded in the contract. 
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Post by: dlancast on June 09, 2016, 03:56:08 PM
Roger that Derek and thank you for saving me on that blunder.  It will be a simple swap of two props to make it right.  Can you imagine that, for a ship of her size and age, she was "fast".  But sadly, I guess not fast enough to not get hit by a torpedo.  I can't wait for the up-coming movie of the Indy's story sometime this summer?  May your seas be smooth sir.  Dennis
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Post by: derekwarner on June 09, 2016, 11:20:56 PM
Dennis.... I read that she will be a glass case model only, however if you do decide to power the shafts, astern turbines blade sets would have been fitted to the outboard engines only

The inboard turbines were non reversible & these props would have been locked in an astern movement

I also read that this Class suffered from excessive roll from original design {-) and this was cured by retro installing bilge keels

I see from reply [#9 on: April 09, 2016, 10:16:31 PM] that the model has the bilge keels cast into the hull

Makes you wonder who approves the artwork  >>:-( in such model making businesses considering the detail that must be amassed in the die manufacturing for the hundreds & hundreds of plastic pieces

Derek

Derek
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on June 10, 2016, 03:42:50 AM
Hi Derek,  yes.. this is a static model only.... I can easily see that she would be sensitive and tippy and actually a small scale to be putting to RC.. although, I see where folks put smaller scale plastic model to power and sail them... what do I know?   This kit is a limited edition model.  Only 12 will ever be made as I understand it for kits.  So, lots of custom parts, but I do see where they are using the same single and quad gun kits and other fittings that I had on the Destroyer I built from them.  I'm working on the anchor gear right now and noticed that the construction pictures on their website show nearly all of the parts cast in brass... well, my kit has half of the parts cast in resin.  Another way to save money.  Kit manufacturer said that the next model they produce will have less brass and bronze.   Gee, maybe I should offer mine for sale.. but not sure I will live long enough to complete this project... she is a bear, but loads of fun to build. Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on June 11, 2016, 07:38:17 PM
Just a quick shot on anchor windless.  Shows the ratio of brass, photo etch, and resin castings for parts.  Will all be painted flat black.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on June 13, 2016, 04:56:42 AM
Anchor set completed.  (stopper chains are 30 links per inch)  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on June 18, 2016, 02:22:28 AM
Forward deck 8" gun turret and forward 20mm Bofors nest installed.  I'll be painting those guns grey.  Just so you all know they are beautiful solid turned brass.
Dennis
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Post by: Capt Podge on June 19, 2016, 09:11:50 PM
Wow! You have done a lot since I last looked in.

It's turning into a beautiful little model Dennis - it's a pity that the brass has to be painted %%

Regards,

Ray.
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Post by: dlancast on June 25, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
Still at it. The communications deck is nearly finished and ready to screw down.  Working on the Quad Four tubs right now.  Its amazing how the photo-etched parts go from two D to 3D.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on June 25, 2016, 03:26:34 PM
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Post by: dlancast on June 25, 2016, 03:27:09 PM
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Post by: dlancast on June 29, 2016, 05:04:49 AM
Com foredeck and 8" guns are now installed.  I'm thinking of building up the next foredeck level before working on the hanger.  Very slow process.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on July 03, 2016, 10:37:37 PM
Hi Folks,   comm deck is coming along. Lots of brass photo-etched metal work, complex bending and gluing.  But, its coming along.  Dennis
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Post by: ballastanksian on July 04, 2016, 07:48:03 PM
Hi Dennis, She is coming along really nicely. I love the anchor chains. I hope the company concentrates on retaining brass barrels as I have seen some travesties in resin. Reinforcing wires are all very good providing the mould is not warped or twisted as you cannot always bend the barrels straight afterwards  >>:-(
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Post by: dlancast on July 04, 2016, 09:47:16 PM
Well sir, that is true about the cannon.  These are actually turned brass in this kit, very cleanly done.  Detail is madness... i have already lost one very small railing that came on my PE sheet.  I swear the thing evaporated right in front of my eyes... very scary and no extras.. Gonna have to make one up from scratch wire.  I have been working on this communications and signal level for weeks now.  It just simply takes time and I have plenty of that (I hope).  More photos to come.  Regards, Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on July 08, 2016, 01:42:54 AM
Moving on with finish of the Signal Bridge and start of the Nav Bridge.  Comm shack is in there too.  I have not cemented this stack of decks in yet, I will go ahead and continue on up to include the mast and spar, plus Director... just easier to work on off the ship proper. Build process will be Fore to Aft.... steady as she goes.  Dennis
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Post by: ballastanksian on July 08, 2016, 09:51:17 PM
Looking marvellous Derek. So much detail.

Sorry to hear about your loss to the carpet monster. I remember the floor on the model club I belonged too before moving.It had a splotchy linoleum floor in grey, tan and grey green. Needless to say, it camouflaged all known plastic kit parts perfectly. usually the only way to find it was to kneel on it when getting down to search, or feeling it after soending ages pretending to clear a minefield  >:-o Sadly a nomber of parts dissapeared over the years.
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Post by: dlancast on July 10, 2016, 06:39:36 AM
Here is a shot of the fore rail bulwork of the Nav bridge.  The tabs are designed to allow the builder to position spacers that will support an outer trim piece.  Once the spacers are glued in place and the trim piece is added, the tabs are broken off and filed clean.  I did not lose a single one to the "ping" factor.  Interestingly, the model maker for the kit manufacturer silver soldered all brass pieces.  I questioned this with the kit maker and was told that fast glue will work just as well.  That is turning out to be true for the most part.  I have nightmares of my fast glue failing over time and waking up some morning to find my model is just a heap of parts in a pile inside its case!  This is really not true, as I have many kits held together with fast glue for over 20 yrs with no failures.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on July 12, 2016, 07:33:00 PM
Navigation Bridge is finished.  Had to scratch build the seat, as it was not in the kit.  Note the detail on the instrumentation/controls.  There is a binnical on the aft end of the bridge with proper port and stbd painted.  Scale is 1/16"=1ft.  Next is the fore Director and Chart House.   Dennis
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Post by: ballastanksian on July 12, 2016, 07:39:49 PM
Like with spoldering, I find that clean and scrubbed metal surfaces take glue much better. I like your bridge seat, it does add to the effect of a busy bridge.
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Post by: Capt Podge on July 12, 2016, 10:46:51 PM
The addition of the round bar foot rest, on the Capt's chair, shows attention to detail - nice one Dennis.

Overall, she is coming along handsomely.

Regards,

Ray.
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Post by: dlancast on July 14, 2016, 06:24:06 AM
Installation of Fore, 8" Gun Director.  Technology that existed during WW2 was amazing.  Reminds me of Star Wars.  Dennis
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Post by: Dreadnought on July 14, 2016, 11:13:23 AM
Wow that's some lovely detail under the 8" gun director :-)
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Post by: warspite on July 14, 2016, 06:38:00 PM
Chewee is wondering who nicked his ST AT and where the hell have you put its legs
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Post by: dlancast on July 14, 2016, 07:50:46 PM
There there, he is kneeling.  Ingauge!    D.
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Post by: ballastanksian on July 15, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
That is a lot of heavy kit to stand (or sit if you are the skipper!) under. Looking good Dennis.
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Post by: dlancast on July 15, 2016, 09:40:34 PM
Thank you sir,  the complexity of the kit is amazing to me and probably my last great challenge.  Each deck level, as I go up, may be smaller is size, but just as complex as the one preceding it.  The kit manufacturer leaves a great deal to the builder to figure out from pictures and detailed CAD drawings how the various parts are to be assembled.  It helps to have a parts catalog that relates to numbers on the drawings, so that you can get a photo of each part referenced.  Does not mean that the parts are easy to find.  I catagorized all the parts into type of material.. ie, bronze, brass, resin, etc.  Still, some of the parts are so small that they can be illusive and time consuming to find.  Patience and occasionally, they are just not there and have to be made from scratch.  I could go back to the manufacturer and have him supply what I need at no cost, but the hassle and wait time is just not worth it, unless its a very complex part that I cannot make.  Haven't run into that so far.  I love the challenge and still estimate a two year build time.  Since I am battling cancer, I just hope and pray that I will last that long.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on July 16, 2016, 04:14:25 AM
chart house completed and installed on the stack.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on July 19, 2016, 09:03:04 PM
Well, here is some detail for ya. This is the Fore Mk34, radar8 antenna, all made from photo-etched parts, folded from 2D to 3D.  Pretty amazing what you can get.


Dennis
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Post by: ballastanksian on July 19, 2016, 09:07:43 PM
Thems the deatilas that make a good model great Dennis. I like the control panels in the chart house as much as the fiddly etch radar arrays.

Brilliant.

Regards your battle, I wish you a good sound drubbing of the dreaded 'C' and a kind remission.
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Post by: dlancast on July 20, 2016, 04:02:31 AM
Thank you sir.  The stack keeps building higher.  Dennis
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Post by: rnli12 on July 20, 2016, 05:54:10 AM
Hi,
 
Cracking detail, keep up the good work!
 
Rich
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Post by: ballastanksian on July 20, 2016, 09:46:04 PM
Amen!
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Post by: dlancast on July 20, 2016, 11:21:28 PM
Ok, next to the last step up.  This is the Antenna Platform, incomplete... still needs a radar ant, etc.  There will be one last stick with a crowsnest and radar ant. to finish.  And, this is just the Foremast, the Mainmast will be taller.  I couldn't get the camera up close enough with these shots, but here are two wind direction indicators on either side of the yard.  PE detail is beyond amazing at this scale.  Dennis
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Post by: Capt Podge on July 20, 2016, 11:45:39 PM
Thanks for the update Dennis. Your 2D to 3D work looks amazing, inspires me to give it a try on some of my future models. :-)

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on July 22, 2016, 05:12:27 AM
I wanted to show the two Anemometers mounted on the fore mast yard.  My Cannon Powershot has a macro setting that takes a very steady hand with no flash, so this is the best I can do.  The anemometers came in two PE parts, the cups had to be twisted to bring into 3D, I then had to drill out the center hole and slip the cups onto the windvane pin, using a clue tool to place a tiny dab of clue on the tip of each pin was maddening, but it worked.  Probably the smallest part to date on this model.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on July 22, 2016, 05:12:54 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on July 25, 2016, 03:55:06 AM
The fore stack is now glued in place.  I have rigged the flag halyards and whip antennas.  All stairs for this phase are in as well.  Next is more guns and railing will be installed for the forward section of the ship.  Then will come the fore smoke stack.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on July 25, 2016, 03:56:02 AM
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Post by: dlancast on July 25, 2016, 03:57:26 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on July 25, 2016, 03:58:33 AM
Decals.  Very small.  The Indy did score some hits.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on July 25, 2016, 03:59:09 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 01, 2016, 10:00:31 PM
Fore Funnel is installed.  More antenna wiring remaining and railing. Then its on to gun installation.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 01, 2016, 10:01:07 PM
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Post by: dlancast on August 01, 2016, 10:01:39 PM
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Post by: dlancast on August 01, 2016, 10:02:05 PM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Capt Podge on August 01, 2016, 10:15:17 PM
I can't help but be amazed at the amount of superb detailing on this model - you're doing her justice Dennis, lovely job. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: warspite on August 01, 2016, 10:46:14 PM
The Decals what were they - freighters / Aircraft / UFO's / men in white tee shirts who frequent the gym perhaps?
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 02, 2016, 06:14:05 AM
hahahaha.... . that's a good point on the decals.  You know, I haven't got a clue, one is probably a freighter, the other aircraft, the last two are unknowns.  I promise to do some internet research and see if I can find out.  Frankly, you can hardly see them with the bare eye... magnification is required, they are that small.  Maybe someone out there knows what they mean.  Regards,  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 05, 2016, 06:31:50 AM
installed Bofor quad 40mm cannon and 20mm single.  Kit called for shielding all the way around the cannon, but after researching on-line, I found that the Indy did not have full shielding on those cannon. So, I modified the gun to include aft railing and seats for spotters.  Turned out ok.  I'm including a photo of one of the quads like I installed as she looked in 1942 at Mare Island ship yard, California.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 05, 2016, 06:32:31 AM
40mm quad and 20mm single.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 05, 2016, 06:33:35 AM
Same quad on Indy in 1942 at Mare Island shipyard.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 12, 2016, 09:00:56 PM
Busy with the fore deck railing.  Very tedious and very small holes on the PE railing.  Kit calls to use a very thin thread for the railing, then paint.  I chose to use #34 brass Bead Wire, which threads much easier.  I used that technique on my destroyer model by Technoart.  Paint will be light grey.  Note that they jogged the railing outwards so that clearance could be gained for the fore deck cannon housing when she swings midships.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 12, 2016, 09:01:26 PM
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Post by: dlancast on August 12, 2016, 09:02:59 PM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Capt Podge on August 12, 2016, 09:31:48 PM
Jogged railings? - Never seen that before, do you suppose the stanchions would be swung back in once the ship was stood down from action stations? - although, to my mind, it would have made more sense to just lay the stanchions flat, a bit like they do for flying stations. Hmmm, very strange. {:-{

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 12, 2016, 09:35:55 PM
True Ray and I agree, very odd.  However, I did check with photos of the real ship in 1943 at Mares Island shipyard... there they were, so I guess they didn't retract them. Any of you WW2 Navy buffs out there know?  I will attempt to do some on-line research just for fun.  Reagards,  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 12, 2016, 09:38:13 PM
Also, if you look closely at the actual ship photo I posted, you can just see one of the "jogged" stanchions.  D.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Capt Podge on August 12, 2016, 09:57:10 PM
Also, if you look closely at the actual ship photo I posted, you can just see one of the "jogged" stanchions.  D.

Yep, I see it now Dennis - thanks for that.

Here's another thought: I guess it would have been possible to somehow mechanically link the stanchions to the gun rotation mechanism so that as the gun was swung, so a corresponding connection was made which would push or pull the stanchions in or out...or of course a far simpler solution, ratings just below deck level could run the stanchions in/out on a rack-and-pinion system.

....thoughts are running into overdrive now, time for a brew... %%

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 12, 2016, 10:16:18 PM
Additional photos clearly show the jogged stanchions being used.  Its times like these when I would give dearly to be able to interview one of the survivors.  I'm not even sure any of them are living now. There will be a movie coming out in November of this year starring Micheal Cage.  It will be interesting how accurate they are with the ship in the movie.  Many changes were done of the Indy over her years of service.  One shot of a preview of that movie showed a bridge deck used in 1938.  That entire upper deck structure was changed around 1944 to how the model I am building appears.  Cheers.  D.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: warspite on August 12, 2016, 11:34:55 PM
I'm surprised they never just plated out the edge to the stations rather than jogging it, if you had to get to the forward guns how did you pass the rear of the turret without possibly falling through the gap even if the gun is not rotated its a bit unsafe to pass when the idea of a railing is to protect from reaching the edge - this ensure the edge is before the railing.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 13, 2016, 01:30:42 AM
I certainly agree sir with everything thing you have said.  Wondered the same things myself.  That is why I sure would like to talk with someone who was aboard one of those heavy cruisers.  Not a good chance as they must be in their 90's now.  This will give me something to chew on through the internet, perhaps I can find more detail.  I will be contacting the kit manufacturer for any info they can give me.  When I look at the old photo's I found, I don't see that huge gap between rail wires, almost like they have filled in that lower edge area with something.  That gun housing really overhangs the deck edge when she swings around, old pictures support that.  I doubt anyone would be near that monster when she was firing, but still, you bring up some interesting safety issues.  Back in WW2, they did not have OSHA for safety and I'll bet you didn't have a harness.  But, what do I know... I'm just a 71 yr old kid, who saw the sea aboard the aircraft carrier USS Ranger during my Navy years in 68.  You just got yelled at if you even tried to peek your head out on the flight deck during ops. {-)   Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Ian K on August 13, 2016, 10:41:58 AM
Hi,

I don't really know about U.S navy protocol on this. I think Ray is on the right track though.

Most European navies did a routine called cleared for action, when going into battle.
This involved dropping/folding all stanchions and guard rails around heavy armament. Removing and stowing any light weight deck clutter, such as aircraft, shoring timbers, davit hung ships boats and other flamable or blast damageable items.

The thing to remember with heavy weapons is that when fired, the blast from the exhausting powder charges caused huge pressure waves ahead of the muzzles and a large vacuum effect behind them. Delicate structures and even deck planking or deck plates could get ripped up or buckled as a result.

If you wish to portray your wonderful model with the turrets in a firing postion, then it would make sense to have the main deck edge stanchions and rails folded flat as in the battle stations/cleared for action position.

regards

Ian
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 13, 2016, 07:16:16 PM
Well, I didn't have much luck in confirming the question of the jogged stanchions.  I did join the Indy forum and have posted the question in hopes a vet can respond or I can get info on this subject.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Ian K on August 14, 2016, 09:34:12 AM
Hi,

If you look at this image of Indianapolis, you will see the hull edge stanchions run parallel to the hull sides....no jogged? areas around main turrets.

Image of quarter deck on USS Portland shows the stanchions in better detail.

As I mentioned previously, they would have been folded flat to the deck during action stations.

I hope this helps you.

Ian
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 14, 2016, 10:14:20 AM
I have been intrigued by this too, I have looked at a number of photos of the ship and there are no apparent jogged out stanchions. All I can see in that position is the propeller guards on the side of the hull below the deck edge.

Colin
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on August 14, 2016, 11:13:10 AM
Beautiful work Dennis and an intriguing mystery to solve at the same time.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: warspite on August 14, 2016, 02:42:15 PM
Am I wrong, these appear to jog out from the hull, the indy photo is too far away to confirm.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 14, 2016, 03:30:28 PM
I don't think so, the following official photos of Indianapolis and Portland show no evidence of jogging out, the second one of Indianapolis shows the turret trained abeam.

Colin

Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 14, 2016, 03:57:47 PM
Well, I hate to disagree gentlemen.  The first photo I posted shows the stanchions offset at the midpoint of the number one turret.  Some of those photos being referred to are of the stern turret which does not overhang the  deck edge when amidships.  I am sure that other ships had stanchions that moved or were folded down. I cannot find a clear diagram showing that is the case with the Indy.  I have posted a question on the Indy survivors forum, hoping that maybe even a survivor can clear this up.  I will keep searching, as this has really got me wondering.  No question the number one turret extends a fair amount beyond the rail, so either the stanchions are jogged out or folded down for clearance.  Do appreciate the inputs gentlemen.  For me, the case is still open.  Cheers, Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 14, 2016, 04:03:17 PM
Perhaps this will help.  D.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 14, 2016, 04:11:07 PM
One more time.  Sure looks like a jogged stanchion to me.  D.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 14, 2016, 04:19:24 PM
And still another time.  D.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 14, 2016, 04:44:31 PM
Ah, I thought we were talking about turret 3 - my mistake. This pic does seem to indicate that the stanchions were jogged on turret 1. Would they have rigged netting  below I wonder?

Colin

Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Netleyned on August 14, 2016, 05:00:18 PM
Netting, Safety,!!
No elfins about then.
Clearing for action would have meant
Gun crew dropping the stantions on the way
into the turret.
There would not have been any crew out there
at action stations.
The blast from those guns would have been
life threatening.

Colin,
Guns are not numbered but lettered,
From the bow, A nd B etc
Going towards the stern X, Y etc.

Ned
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 14, 2016, 05:14:52 PM
Interesting, one of the Indy survivors had the guns numbered.  I just installed a rolled boarding netting, but would sure make good sense to have some kind of safety and sure agree that you don't want to be anywhere near one  of those 8" guns when it was fired... those they were manned internally... wonder what that was like.  Thanks for the help gents.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 14, 2016, 05:17:18 PM
Ned, A,B,X,Y etc. were RN designations. The US Navy called theirs by numbers.

Colin
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Netleyned on August 14, 2016, 06:02:20 PM
USN never got much right  {-)


Ned

Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 15, 2016, 07:23:32 AM
Ok, this should settle it.  This WW2 photo of the Indy in rough seas "clearly" shows jogged stanchions on the STBD side of number 1 turret.  Lets move on.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Ian K on August 15, 2016, 08:51:54 AM
Conclusive proof!!

Well done on the research. A strange arrangement though, non the less.

Ian
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Capt Podge on August 15, 2016, 11:18:28 AM
Thanks for clearing that one up Dennis - your determination, our curiosity = job done! :-))

Just goes to show how much accurate detail your model contains. :-)

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 15, 2016, 02:30:26 PM
Thank you sirs,  I have seen stranger things and its funny how some of this stuff can get one hooked and more amazing yet, how powerful the internet truly is for information.  Enhances the hobby that much more.  Back to work.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Paul Swainson on August 15, 2016, 03:21:16 PM
I must say that the photos of USA ships from the 1939 to 1945 period seem to be very detailed and available now for us to see.  Why is it we do not have such detailed photos of the UK ships when in harbour and at see.  All I can get for HMS Illustrious is distance shots taken from miles out to see.  Bar humbug. :((
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 15, 2016, 04:34:30 PM
Don't have an answer to that one Paul.  I found this site: http://www.usni.org/ussindianapolis I sure would think that similar institutes in the UK would be available. Like walking back in time 70 yrs.  I can now almost take a tour of the ship I am modeling and resolve detail issues and enhance if needed.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 15, 2016, 04:48:16 PM
US warship photos from WW2  and earlier are largely in the public domain. This is not the case for RN ships. The photos probably exist but are hard to come by which is why in most naval books the same old photos (usually from the Imperial War Museum collections) appear over and over again.

Some of the US photos show in graphic detail the huge amount of damage a torpedo hit can cause. I don't think the RN ever released detailed information such as the damage sustained by USS South Dakota at Guadalcanal http://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/w/war-damage-reports/uss-south-dakota-bb57-war-damage-report-no57.html

Apologies for drifting off topic,

Colin
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 18, 2016, 01:49:45 AM
Finally got the foredeck railing in.  This forward section is essentially  completed and I can now move on to the hanger installation, then catapults, crane, etc.  For fun, I took a shot at approx. the same camera angle as the original WW2 photo of the Indy at Mares Point shipyard. Amazing sim. I'd say and happy with results so far.  Cheers!  I'll be off for a bit while I get the new phase moving.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 18, 2016, 01:50:31 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: derekwarner on August 18, 2016, 02:36:05 AM
Watching each posting Dennis.....I found the subject of the rear of No 1 gun house exceeding the deck footprint when at maximum train interesting then you asked what would it have been like when firing.....the only thought would have been very loud....then someone mentioned the SPL <*<

I have experienced modern 5" guns at sea firing live projectiles.......also very loud [160dBA?], [which is equivalent to 1 million watts of sound power] however at much higher frequencies.....more like a whip crack explosion...still bursting of eardrums type sound if you were on deck..... <:(

One question.....did they really use those zebra crossing markings in the original vessel time span?.... Derek
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 18, 2016, 04:14:22 AM
Loud without question.  During my time in the US Navy, I was only around small calib. weapons and that made my ears ring.  Can you imagine a broadside on one of the BB's during the war?  Photos show concussion across the water and the ship was shoved sideways!  I have no clue.


By stripes on the deck, I think you are referring to the non-skid treads?  Yes, I believe they were pretty standard.  I did not see them on the aircraft carrier I was stationed on (USS Ranger), rather the entire outside decks were coated with a non-skid paint.  You would not want to go crawling around on your bare hands and knees on that stuff... it worked.   Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on August 21, 2016, 10:17:36 PM
Now we have ascertained that the stancions were joggled out (and very well recreated by you Derek  :-)) ) I noticed in one image that, while there was no netting along the bottom, there was a cable parallel with the upper edge of the hull side as well as a standard rail at the bottom of the stanions following their joggling, suggesting that while it was possible to step into the gap, there was a likelyhood that you would trip on the lower rail and fall into the rest hopefully catching hold before you fell through the gap.

I don't plan on doing a 'Compo' and tyying it out  {:-{

Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 22, 2016, 05:57:48 AM
The Hanger Deck begins.  I did check and the SeaGull SOC aircraft does actually fit inside the hanger, though it won't be placed there.  I had a spare lower wing section that I hung on the inside wall for fun.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 22, 2016, 05:58:26 AM
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Post by: dlancast on August 22, 2016, 05:59:05 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on August 22, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
That is perfectly acceptable Dennis as RN Carriers were adorned with bits of aircraft hanging from the joists and stuck in convenient nooks about the hangar deck. It adds reality and narrative to the model.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Paul Swainson on August 22, 2016, 08:29:51 PM
Don't have an answer to that one Paul.  I found this site: http://www.usni.org/ussindianapolis (http://www.usni.org/ussindianapolis) I sure would think that similar institutes in the UK would be available. Like walking back in time 70 yrs.  I can now almost take a tour of the ship I am modeling and resolve detail issues and enhance if needed.  Dennis


I did email the US Naval museum  for information on photos they would have taken to repair Illustrious when she was in the US for major repairs back in 1941 to the Norfolk Naval Yard.  But they said they never had any.  Is there any place you may know that may help me find photos take when she was in the US in 1941/42
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 22, 2016, 08:53:20 PM
You might try the U.S. Naval Institute  http://www.usni.org/  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 22, 2016, 09:07:08 PM
I am not sure which U.S. Naval ship this picture was taken from, but does show a SOC Seagull in the hanger and I would image would be typical.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 29, 2016, 04:37:21 AM
Moving along, working my way towards the stern.  The seaplane hanger is done and subdecks installed aft.  The decking starts with cast epoxy, then one layer of brass PE and then a final layer of bronze PE.  I guess the idea is to achieve a very smooth deck surface, which is painted and then non-skid decals applied.  I will do that on the aft of the two decks shown and then move on to build and install the catapults and aircraft before continuing on.  This phase is very complex and will take the most time.  Bear with me on this.  Regards,  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on August 29, 2016, 04:38:19 AM
bronze top deck layer in prep.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on August 29, 2016, 08:52:48 PM
Don't fret Dennis, we ain't going anywhere!
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: kpnuts on September 01, 2016, 09:38:16 PM
I've just read this from the start, after seeing the early pics with you looking through that eye glass thingy gave me the perspective of just how tiny those planes are, this is some incredible work.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 01, 2016, 10:24:15 PM
Yes sir, indeed.  Works out to about 1/16"=1ft is a tad on the small side for scale.  Fortunately for me, the ship is huge, yielding a model 3ft long.  I'm lost in all the detail and how to figure out how to put it all together.  The kit manufacturer leaves it up to the modeler to know how to do this.  And so goes the challenge.  Am now working on the catapults, I'll get some pics up soon.  The kit shows both catalpults stowed with aircraft mounted.  I have decided to have one of the catapults in the launch position to add some variety to the eye.  Glad you are enjoying the post. This forum is amazing what folks are doing and so enjoy lurking about.  Cheers.... Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 02, 2016, 05:34:49 AM
First catapult is now 3D.  All parts are brass PE, folded from 2D to 3D tabbing is twisted, then CA glued in place.  In approx. position for launch.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 02, 2016, 05:35:16 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on September 02, 2016, 12:38:43 PM
Wow and more wow! The catapult is beautiful. I like the little towers they sit upon, very medievil!

Excellent work Dennis.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 03, 2016, 05:06:44 AM
Ok, I have attempted to show a launch of one of the Seagulls.  The catapult deck is 30ft long.  A power charge equal to a 5" cannon was used to shoot the sled down the catapult, reaching a speed of nearly  60mph.  The pilot had to have a firm hand on throttle and control stick and the launch captain had to trigger the charge during the upswing of the ship as she was charging into the wind.  Commit signal was given by the pilot, you were going flying wither you wanted to or not!  They said the experience had a real "kick" to it.  I attempted to simulate a spinning propeller by cutting out a thin disc of plastic and used a fine sandpaper to "frost" the surface.  If you look carefully, you can actually see the cylinder heads through the "spinning" prop.  I think it came out pretty good.  Adds a bit of visual fun to a static model.  That catapult was a total bear to build and I have one more yet to do.  The other catapult will be in a "stowed" position per plan.  Enjoy.... Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 03, 2016, 05:07:17 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 03, 2016, 05:07:59 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on September 03, 2016, 01:56:03 PM
Those aviators had kahunas of titanium! 5inch charge!!!!!!! If the pilot gave the go ahead and had his hands already busy, hw did he signal he was ready? Was he and the launch captain in radio comunication?
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 04, 2016, 04:38:12 AM
What I read was it was a hand signal... probably a salute!  Yikes!  They did mention that they had some mishaps, loss of control as the pilot was slammed into his seat and did not get his hands into position quick enough.  I think there was a brief lag time from the signal, as the launch captain had to watch for the rise of the ship to launch.  It was the night launches that were the bun tighteners..... you were shot off into total darkness. They loved it though....  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 08, 2016, 08:52:33 PM
Dear Folks,  I have a question for those great minds out there.  I cannot figure out what this part is for my Indy model.  The kit only gives a part number, no ID as to what it is or what its function is.  The main part swivels up and down.  It will be located near the incinerator, aft of the hanger and aft funnel.  It just sits there, is not hooked up to anything and is not a weapon (although it looks like something from Star Wars).  I can't even research it without knowing its function.  Thanks for any help on this.  Inquiring minds need to know.   Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 08, 2016, 08:53:05 PM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: rsm on September 08, 2016, 09:31:22 PM
I think that is a practice loader, for the gun crews.  :-))

Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: tanker on September 08, 2016, 09:37:23 PM
I suspect it's a 5in 38 practice loading machine
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 09, 2016, 02:30:36 AM
That's it!  Thank you so much.  Now I know.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 15, 2016, 06:14:33 AM
Hanger deck is complete.  Gun deck is in. Much detail is now buried under bridge, etc.  Have started with the first of several 5"/38cal. anti-aircraft guns.  Followed with aft funnel and mast, antenna, etc.  So much there, I'll do my best at documenting in a way that will show as much as possible. This build is a real blast, it just keeps going and going.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 15, 2016, 06:15:20 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Capt Podge on September 15, 2016, 11:16:04 PM
You certainly seem to be getting your monies worth with this one Dennis - I don't think I've ever encountered this much detail in a kit before.
Plus, of course, you are doing a fantastic job of it. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 19, 2016, 05:12:14 AM
Aft funnel and signal light deck going in. 5" AA guns installed and 40mm quads installed. This deck will support the aft mast and electronics and the hanger deck crane.


Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 21, 2016, 04:21:54 AM
Midship Searchlight deck installed with four Mark 51 Directors and two Sky Chairs.  Aft funnel is just placed and in the works.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 21, 2016, 04:22:46 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 26, 2016, 03:39:58 AM
Ok, finished the basic frame of the Crane.  Amazing how that beast went together, all from 2D PE brass, tabed together and then fast glued.  I wondered why they didn't provide cast bronze sheaves, they didn't, instead, you build up each triple sheave by layering and gluing "coins" of brass PE with a tiny hole in the middle of each.  It does mimic a sheave, but is not working, so the rigging will be installed "static", positioning the crane however I want it.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on September 26, 2016, 03:40:25 AM
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Post by: dlancast on September 27, 2016, 04:32:22 AM
Crane is installed.  Next will be antenna and radar mast.  Dennis
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Post by: dlancast on September 27, 2016, 04:33:01 AM
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Post by: dlancast on October 01, 2016, 04:45:40 AM
Antenna mast is in and radar "bedspring" added.  Two more levels will be added for more radar and HF ant.  The detail at this stage nearly drove me to drink.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 02, 2016, 04:25:57 AM
Top antennas made, all brass, glued with fast glue.  Very delicate work, I did have a glass of wine to help on this one... Yikes!  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 02, 2016, 04:26:41 AM
Next will be paint and mount.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: rnli12 on October 02, 2016, 07:04:57 AM
Dennis,

Great work, keep it going there is light at the end of tunnel for completion with all the intricate work!

Regards,

Rich
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 03, 2016, 05:34:32 AM
Thank you sir.  Aft Ant. Mast is in.  I think aft Director is next.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 07, 2016, 05:30:56 AM
Aft Mk-8 Director and radar finished and installed.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 13, 2016, 09:43:51 PM
Moving aft. Gun deck and Director in, working on 6 40mm anti-aircraft guns.  Since I will be finished with this build this winter, I am looking towards my next project... trying to decide on U.S.S. Hornet CV-8 in the Doolittle config. at 1:200 scale, which would yield a massive model around 48" long.. but with B-25 bombers on deck, she would be impressive.  Or, the old original U.S.S. Ranger or Essex at 1:350 scale... smaller.  I am running out of room in my house to display this large models, so may have to consider selling them.  Its a real sickness I'm afraid and who knows why I am having this fascination with WW2 Naval ships?? {:-{   Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 13, 2016, 09:44:18 PM
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Post by: ballastanksian on October 13, 2016, 10:54:41 PM
Wow Derek, this is a visual gift that keeps on giving! The derrick with its graceful curve really stood out. Lovely, I can see why you are hooked on making these gems!!!
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 28, 2016, 06:33:42 AM
Folks, the Indy is nearing completion, as soon as I finish and install two stern quad Bofors, I will begin final rigging and that will be it for a very challenging project.  Pictures soon.  Next project is possibly a ww2 US carrier.... maybe the Hornet. Gonna squeeze in a tiny 1/350 scale YMS class minesweeper for a friend... kit is from Poland.  Fairwinds,  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 30, 2016, 03:16:25 AM
All that remains to complete my Indy model is rigging and decals.  Here are a couple of weak shots as she stands now. I am moving onto a small model for a friend which should take about a month, then I will return to finish the Indy.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 30, 2016, 03:16:57 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 30, 2016, 03:25:10 AM
A friend asked me to build a model of a WW2 Minesweeper (WMS 351) that his dad served aboard during WW2.  Not too much is available kit form for the WMS series of sweeps, so I settled on a kit from Poland made my Niko.  Scale is 1:350.  Honestly, I did not realize just how small a model this is, the hull is barely 5" long.  However, the detail provided in the resin castings and PE brass parts is amazing and very well executed.  The quality is extremely high and does justify the rather high price for the kit.  Actually, I am looking forward to the build and a nice side step from my Indy model.  The very small scale of the parts will make for a steady hand.  I will try to document the build here under my Indy posting if you folks don't mind.  Here are a few pics of the contents of the box.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on October 30, 2016, 03:25:53 AM
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Post by: dlancast on October 30, 2016, 03:26:25 AM
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Post by: dlancast on October 30, 2016, 03:27:48 AM
Sorry folks, that should be YMS, not WMS.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on October 30, 2016, 06:47:03 PM
Holy Goat that is wee! Good luck being intricate with that one Dennis.

The Indy looks great and I await more progress when you can get back to it.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 02, 2016, 12:34:52 AM
Work continues with the mini minesweeper.  I am amazed at the fine detail in this kit and just about everything fits!  Parts are incredibly small!  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 02, 2016, 12:35:45 AM
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Post by: dlancast on November 02, 2016, 12:36:21 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 02, 2016, 12:37:49 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 05, 2016, 04:37:29 AM
Model is now mounted and in its case.  Not finished yet, still more to go.  I am happy with the base affect, found that paper at the craft store and the case is one used to display baseballs... cheap and easy.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 05, 2016, 04:38:01 AM
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Post by: dlancast on November 05, 2016, 04:38:34 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: SailorGreg on November 05, 2016, 05:40:54 PM
Hang on Dennis, I thought you said this would take you a month.  At this rate you'll be finished before most of us have realised you've even started!   {-)    I hope you've got a good magnifier for this one.  Looking good so far and that rippled paper was an inspired find.  Looking forward to the rest of the build and the final episodes of the Indianapolis.


Greg
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on November 05, 2016, 09:31:52 PM
Hang on Dennis, I thought you said this would take you a month.  At this rate you'll be finished before most of us have realised you've even started!   {-)    I hope you've got a good magnifier for this one.  Looking good so far and that rippled paper was an inspired find.  Looking forward to the rest of the build and the final episodes of the Indianapolis.


Greg

Amen Dennis, lovely job and also super fast!
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 08, 2016, 05:44:49 AM
Ok, the minesweeper is done except for hull numbers.  I'm awaiting the decals to come in the mail.  Happy with the way she turned out. The new owner of this model is very happy and will pay for my next project after the Indy.  Well worth the effort, I'd say.  Now back to the Indy project.  Thanks for waiting.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 08, 2016, 05:45:21 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 27, 2016, 10:28:17 PM
Ok folks, the Indy is done.  I'm mounting her now and will have pics very soon.  I think the USS Arizona at 1/200 scale will be my next project.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on November 28, 2016, 10:18:31 PM
The minesweeper is excellent Derek. That is a lot of detail in a tiny model  :-))
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 30, 2016, 01:10:23 AM
Well folks, the Indy is now mounted and waiting for her plexi case sometime in January.  I chose to mount the model on a nice plank of Sapele and trimmed the edges with copper tape.  I found a brass medallian on the internet that is authentic as a commemoritive piece from the Indy Society.  It says " USS Indianapolis CA-35, Sunk July 30, 1945, Still at Sea."  I thought that very fitting for this model.  I secured the model on two brass supports.  This was a very rewarding modeling experience for me and I hope you folks enjoyed it as much as I did.  I will step back aboard when I start my new project... still undecided and waiting for the boating kitty to grow, before the commander releases the funds to me.    Best regards,  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 30, 2016, 01:11:05 AM
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Post by: dlancast on November 30, 2016, 01:12:58 AM
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Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: SailorGreg on November 30, 2016, 08:02:15 AM
Beautiful.  A fine job Dennis and the medallion is a lovely finishing touch.


Greg
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: Capt Podge on November 30, 2016, 05:14:00 PM
This has been a fascinating build to watch, a beautiful end-of-build mounting and it is a credit to your skills - congratulations Dennis. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on November 30, 2016, 09:29:41 PM
Amen. First rate.

I look forward to your next project. I have seen the 1:200th scale kits being released these days and they are very tempting.
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: dlancast on November 30, 2016, 11:27:52 PM
thank you..... I have placed my order for the Trumpeter kit of the U.S.S. Arizona, along with the Mk-1 Upscale kit.  This will yield a 36" model at 1/200 scale.  I would like to build it as a tribute to the fellow Navy souls who lost their lives at the Pearl Harbor attack WW2.  Reviews coming back are very good for both of these kits, with superb detail.  I plan to mount the model similar to my Indy build, but add a model of the Memorial at Pearl Harbor, I believe that there is a 1/200 kit avail. or 1/350 to place on the base.  Very much looking forward to this build.  I won't have all of the kits until sometime in January 2017, but the main kit will arrive mid Dec. and I can start the build at that time and begin posting here as usual.  Dennis
Title: Re: USS Indianapolis CA35
Post by: ballastanksian on December 01, 2016, 09:01:20 PM
That will be a lovely memorial Dennis given your passion and attention to detail.